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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 27 Mar 2007

Vol. 634 No. 4

Adjournment Debate.

Child Care Services.

I thank the Acting Chairman and I want to thank the Leas-Cheann Comhairle for providing me with the opportunity to raise this important matter.

The Kilronan parent and toddler group is currently in dire financial difficulty due to the uncertainty regarding the payment of a staffing grant under the Equal Opportunities Childcare Programme 2000-06. The group which has been in existence since March 2000, is largely run by volunteers. Members of the current committee all have children attending playschool and they receive no monetary reward for the hours they spend running the school. The current committee took over the running of the facility in July 2005 following an 18-month closure, and must not be judged on anything that happened prior to that date. It has run the facility since then without any funding on the generosity of the small, local, mainly rural, community.

The group has been in a school premises on which it has paid no rent as the income from fees goes towards the paying of staff. This in turn has a knock-on effect on the running of the adjoining primary school. The income is reduced as the group is not paying the agreed rent throughout the year.

After a long and protracted period the group received re-approval under the EOCP for €25,000 to provide a playground at the playschool, and I want to acknowledge and thank the Minister and the Department officials for sanctioning this funding. However, while it was successful in securing funding for the playground, the group has been refused a staffing grant which is now critical to the survival of the playschool.

What makes the current crisis so illogical, is that without staff, the playground will be redundant, and State funds will have been provided without children to utilise the new facility. The group now finds itself in the position that if it cannot secure a decision on the staffing grant, it will be forced to permanently close the playschool at Easter. It cannot keep up the fundraising efforts if it does not know whether there is a future for the playschool, and without a staffing grant, there is no future. The decision affects the 12 children at present using the playschool and a further pupil scheduled to start after Easter, as well as the two staff currently employed there.

It will also have an effect on a further 13 children to whom it was hoped to offer a second session in September, not to mention the parents of those who use the facility to avail of training and employment, and the children of St. Patrick's, the adjoining primary school. Since this particular committee took over the running of the playschool it has had only one late quarterly financial return for July-September 2006. The July-September return was a few weeks late as members of the committee had no previous experience with such returns. They had to make an appointment to see an accountant who explained what was required so that they could complete the returns.

This committee has given a commitment that it is willing to stay with the playschool voluntarily for the next three to five years. With almost two years experience running the school, paying PRSI, dealing with fire safety, insurance, HSE officials and knowledge of quarterly returns, it can ensure that all requirements set down by the Department are met. The programme appraisal committee and the Department are forcing the facility to close and I earnestly request that this vital service is maintained in this disadvantaged community, where it means so much.

I am taking the Adjournment matter on behalf of my colleague, the Minister for Health and Children, Deputy Harney.

To respond to Deputy Naughten, it is first necessary to give a brief explanation of the Equal Opportunities Childcare Programme 2000-2006 and the National Childcare Investment Programme 2006-2010 for which the Minister of State at the Department of Health and Children, Deputy Brian Lenihan, is responsible.

An Agreed Programme for Government, the progress of the EOCP and the NCIP are confirmation of the Government's commitment to developing child care services to support the child care needs of parents, with a particular emphasis on those who may be in employment, or education or training to prepare for employment. The EOCP has both an equal opportunities and a social inclusion perspective and aims to increase the supply of centre-based child care places by 55%, or 31,300 places, by programme end. This target has been exceeded, with some 34,000 additional places already created by the programme.

In order to build on the success of the EOCP, the Government introduced the NCIP to cover the period 2006-10. This programme will build on the success of the EOCP and incorporates a number of key objectives. It will increase the supply and quality of early childhood care and education services across the board. It will support families in breaking the cycle of disadvantage and provide a co-ordinated approach to the delivery of child care that is centred on the needs of the child.

The decision of the Government to create a major new investment programme immediately, rather than wait until the previous programme had expired, is evidence of its commitment to drive progress in the area of child care. The NCIP 2006-10 has a funding allocation of €575 million and aims to create an additional 50,000 new child care places. It is expected that approximately 22,000 of these places will be in the private sector and 28,000 in the community not-for-profit sector. Some 20% of the overall places will be for children in the three to four age group and will provide an early childhood care and education focus.

When taken with the other child care related measures introduced by this Government, such as increases in paid and unpaid maternity leave, the introduction of the early childhood supplement worth €1,000 per year per child under six, and tax relief for childminders, no one can doubt that it is giving this issue the priority it deserves.

I turn now to the group in question. Deputy Naughten may be aware that the Kilronan parent, toddler and playschool group was approved €25,554 in capital grant assistance under the EOCP in March 2002 as a contribution towards the capital costs of the project.

From November 2000 to date, the group has been approved staffing grants under EOCP totalling some €85,000. Recently the group requested additional funding towards the staffing costs of the service. However, the Secretary General agreed with the recommendation of the programme appraisal committee that the application should be declined on this occasion as the group had not met the reporting requirements of previous funding which had been approved and, therefore, had not sufficiently demonstrated its capacity to implement the requirements attaching to further funding.

The Kilronan parent, toddler and playschool group appealed this decision to the child care directorate of my office on 7 February 2007, and all details were forwarded to Pobal which oversees the day-to-day management of the programmes, for an assessment which will be considered by the programme appraisal committee in due course. That committee will make its recommendation to the Secretary General who in turn will make the final decision — and the group will be informed of the decision.

Many child care services throughout Roscommon have benefited from grant assistance under the EOCP and the NCIP. To date, funding of over €9 million has been approved for child care in Roscommon, which is supporting the creation of over 748 new child care places and over 714 existing places throughout the county. It is only fair to emphasise that the EOCP has been central to the recent development of child care services in Ireland and with its successor, the NCIP, will continue to flourish under the careful stewardship of this Government.

Schools Building Projects.

It is heartening that the Minister for Education and Science is in the Chamber for the Adjournment debate. Normally, Ministers leave it to their Ministers of State.

There are 167 pupils attending O'Brennan national school, Kielduff, Tralee, County Kerry. It has grown by 50% in the past ten years, due primarily to the school's excellent and dedicated teaching staff, board of management and parents' council. The school has eight teachers comprising six classroom teachers, a learning support teacher and a part-time resource teacher. It also has two special needs assistants and a secretary.

Yesterday morning, the parents and staff invited local public representatives and the press to see at first hand the conditions both teachers and pupils must endure. It was a dreadful experience. The main school is dilapidated and damp. Windows do not open. The staff office is a converted bicycle shed and doubles up as a remedial classroom. The schoolyard is broken and uneven and floods during heavy rain. There are five prefabs, one of which is 25 years old. They are too hot in summer and too cold in winter, heaters are coming off walls and the ceilings are covered with damp patches. One of the prefabs has no lobby and none has a cloakroom. Class sizes are over 30 pupils and there is no school hall. Any major remedial work that has taken place, such as the upgrading of toilet facilities and the new tarmac playground, has been provided through fund-raising by the parents' council. The secretary works in an office in which the door does not open fully. Overall, the prefabs and the main school building are in very poor condition. The Minister visited the school some time ago and will be aware of these problems.

Four years ago the board of management was advised to draw up plans for a new school building consisting of five classrooms and a hall. However, on receipt of the plans, the Department requested that the board of management purchase an extra acre of land adjacent to the school because of the restrictive nature of the site. The land was purchased but no progress has been made since. While it is welcome that an architect from the Department will visit the school this week, why has it taken so long to advance this project, particularly at a time of unprecedented financial resources? The only conclusion one can come to is that the Minister and the Department ignored and abandoned the staff and pupils of O'Brennan national school. Hopefully, the Minister will give a clear indication that the project will be prioritised by the Department and the staff and pupils will not have to wait another four years for a response from the Department. It is critical that the Minister should provide some positive news on the school's accommodation. The staff, parents and pupils of the school are not prepared to endure these conditions much longer.

I thank Deputy Deenihan for giving me the opportunity of outlining the position of the Department of Education and Science regarding O'Brennan national school, Kielduff, Tralee, County Kerry.

Modernising facilities in our 3,200 primary and 750 post-primary schools is not an easy task, given the legacy of decades of under-investment in this area as well as the need to respond to emerging needs in areas of rapid population growth. Nonetheless, since taking office, the Government has shown a focused determination to improve the condition of our school buildings and to ensure the appropriate facilities are in place to enable the implementation of a broad and balanced curriculum. As evidence of this commitment, over €540 million will be spent on school building and modernisation projects in the coming year on primary and post-primary schools. Some 1,500 projects of various scales will be undertaken.

O'Brennan national school was one of several schools which the Department approved to progress through architectural planning. However, as the enrolment increased substantially, the long projected enrolment had to be reassessed for this school. The brief for the project was subsequently amended to provide adequate accommodation for a principal, seven classroom teachers and 1.5 learning support and resource teachers. Deputy Deenihan should note that the Department gave the school extra teachers to cope with the extra enrolments. The Department could have waited for the new school building to be completed before appointing the extra teachers. It was felt, however, that it was more important the pupils should benefit from the extra teachers immediately.

The Department's technical team is assessing how best to progress this project and several options are being considered. When this assessment is completed, the Department will be in contact with the school authorities as to the next steps involved in progressing this building project. In the case of all large capital projects on hand in the school building section, progression of the project to tender and construction will be considered in the context of the multi-annual school building and modernisation programme. The Department of Education and Science is committed to providing suitable high quality accommodation for O'Brennan national school at the earliest possible date.

Inquiry into Child Abuse.

Like Deputy Deenihan, I am glad the Minister is in the Chamber to respond to the issue I have raised. The way the State is treating those abused in State primary schools is shameful. Anyone who saw the effect of the State's response to victims of abuse on the "Prime Time" programme last week will support a review of the issue. In some cases, the victims were concerned they would lose their houses due to legal costs. These were victims of abuse in State-run national schools by teachers who were paid for by the State, yet the Government has washed its hands of any responsibility.

The Government's position in this matter is inconsistent. On the one hand Fianna Fáil and the Progressive Democrats signed up to a deal with the religious communities under which they have picked up the majority of the cost of compensating victims who were sexually abused in institutions under the control of these orders. The cost to the taxpayer of this deal by the State — repeatedly defended by the Taoiseach and the Minister — will run to approximately €1.3 billion. On the other hand the State is denying all liability for the sexual abuse of children who were abused in State primary schools, by teachers whose salaries were paid by the State. Where is the consistency in these positions?

Last week, the Minister informed me on several occasions that as the State had the deepest pockets, it should take up the majority of costs in this regard. The State, however, has far deeper pockets than those of schools' boards of management which will be responsible for actions taken concerning child abuse in schools. Such abuse did not only occur in the past, but could well happen in the present. If a case of abuse occurs, as has occurred and as we saw portrayed in a recent "Prime Time" programme, against whom do the victims claim? If victims claim against members of a board of management, there is nothing for them to claim against as there are no assets. In effect, the State is saying people who were abused have no legal redress that is in any way meaningful. To make matters worse, the Department of Education and Science is now subjecting people who are contemplating legal action to a form of legal intimidation by warning that they will be pursued for the full legal costs of any unsuccessful legal action.

I refer in particular to Louise O'Keeffe, whose case I raised here and my party leader, Deputy Rabbitte, raised last year. She faces the prospect of losing her home as a result of being pursued by the State. I truly believe this marks a new low and makes a total nonsense of the Taoiseach's apology to victims of sexual abuse. Victims have suffered enough without being subjected to further trauma at the hands of the Department of Education and Science. What we have is a totally legalistic response to what is an enormous case of human suffering as a result of abuse. This response is totally inappropriate.

I call on the Government to review its decision to deny liability for the shocking sexual abuse of children in State primary schools. I also call on the Department of Education and Science and the Minister to stop sending threatening letters to those contemplating legal action against the State.

I wish to extend my sincere sympathy to those who were subjected to abuse in their schools, places where, as children, they should have felt safe and protected. Child abuse is devastating wherever it occurs and I know victims continue to carry a great deal of hurt and emotional pain. Abuse of a child is an abhorrent, inexcusable act. It brings suffering both to the victim and to his or her family.

There is no doubt that a terrible wrong was done to some young children in our primary schools in the past and criminal charges have been successfully brought against some perpetrators. However, the courts have found the State was not liable for this abuse.

The education system has long been structured on the basis that our schools are sponsored by religious and other patrons and run by local management on their behalf, in the form of the school manager or nowadays the board of management, in whom legal responsibility is vested. The Roman Catholic Church set up the vast majority of our primary schools and continues to act as their patron. Other patrons include those of Protestant, Jewish and Muslim faiths, and the patron bodies for Gaelscoileanna and Educate Together schools.

While the Department sets the curriculum and funds the running costs of schools, including teachers' salaries, it is the school management that recruits and employs teachers and other staff. They are assisted in this role by departmental guidelines and agreements reached with the education partners. Given the responsibility of local management for employing staff, they are also responsible for suspending or removing staff from their posts.

The courts have found in four separate cases that the Department of Education and Science was not liable for abuse that occurred in schools. I accept that the fact the State is not legally responsible for what happened does not make it any less awful for the people concerned. It just means the Department is not the correct party to bring a case against.

Our current system of school management has served us well. It means that communities have a strong role in how schools are run and that patrons can ensure their ethos is promoted in their schools. I know that such a locally-based system places a lot of responsibility on voluntary members of boards and I am anxious to ensure that members of boards are provided with the training and other supports they need to discharge their responsibilities. The Department has provided funding to the various school management bodies to enable them to provide training for their boards of management. Since last year, the Drumcondra Education Centre has had responsibility for offering training for boards of management to meet their identified needs. Areas covered by this training include legal issues, financial management, bullying and child protection.

While members of boards have a responsibility to ensure that procedures are in place within the school to keep their pupils safe and to investigate any allegations of abuse, they are not personally liable for claims against the school. The Education Act specifically protects individual members from being sued. It is important that there is local responsibility and vigilance in relation to child abuse but this does not mean volunteer members of boards being exposed to claims. I do not believe this issue will stop people from volunteering to participate on boards. The head of the Catholic Primary School Managers' Association has also publicly reassured board members that they are protected by insurance.

In regard to the civil proceedings which are being brought against the State, there is a responsibility to the taxpayer to defend cases where it is clear the State is not liable and where the courts have upheld this. However, when it comes to pursuing costs, naturally in cases involving child abuse, the State is anxious to balance the need to be responsible to the taxpayer with a strong desire to treat victims in a humane and sensitive manner.

As the House will be aware, the State Claims Agency is the body appointed by the Government to manage civil proceedings brought against the State, including those involving child abuse. The Department of Education and Science has specifically asked the agency to approach the issue of costs in such cases in a measured and understanding way. There is certainly no question of victims being forced to sell their family home. At the same time, however, it is important that solicitors representing victims are made aware of recent court judgments and the need to avoid incurring unnecessary legal costs in pursuing cases where the State is not liable. The purpose of the letters sent to solicitors by the Chief State Solicitor's office last year was to make them aware of the legal situation before their clients enter into a costly and stressful process arguing a case against the wrong party.

While the courts have found the State was not liable for cases of child abuse in schools, nonetheless the Government is determined to ensure that all schools have policies and procedures in place to protect their pupils. Over the past number years, a range of measures have been put in place to ensure this. The Department has provided a range of supports and guidance to schools in the implementation of child protection policy. Child protection guidelines and procedures, based on Children First, the Department of Health and Children's national guidelines, have been issued to all primary and post-primary schools. These guidelines make clear the reporting and investigation mechanisms to be followed in cases of suspected child abuse wherever they occur, and the lead role of the Health Service Executive in dealing with such cases. The Department has provided an extensive in-service training programme for school principals and teachers to assist them in dealing with child protection issues and in implementing these guidelines.

Procedures have also been introduced, based on Children First for departmental staff to assist them in dealing with any allegations or complaints of abuse which are made known to them. Under these procedures, the existence of allegations of abuse is notified directly to the HSE and all allegations of abuse received in the Department are treated with the utmost seriousness.

A range of other initiatives have been put in place, including the stay safe programme, social, personal and health education and Internet safety guidelines, all with a view to educating students in relation to issues of personal health, well being and safety.

In addition, from the beginning of the 2006-07 academic year, all new teachers and other ancillary staff who have unsupervised access to children are subject to Garda vetting. Vetting will be broadened to include all 55,000 serving teachers over the next few years.

The Government has also introduced strong criminal measures to ensure persons found guilty of child abuse are firmly dealt with. In addition, proposals have been published for a referendum to enable further legislation to be enacted to strengthen child welfare and protection supports.

Schools Building Projects.

I have had the benefit of hearing the Minister's answer to the matter raised by Deputy Deenihan on O'Brennan national school. That answer does not offer great hope for the school.

The school authorities indicated in or around 2000 that the school was in need of refurbishment and that they required a new school. They wanted this project to be progressed because the roof was leaking, the heating system was inadequate, the classrooms were small, the school grounds were unsafe and the drains became blocked on a frequent basis.

A necessary site was required and the trustees purchased a site of one acre adjacent to the existing school. They commenced the planning process. During the period that progress on this project has been delayed, the number of pupils enrolled in the school has increased. If the project is to progress, a new planning application will have to be submitted to meet the requirements of the school and its pupils.

There are currently five prefabs on the school grounds and it is disturbing that one of them costs €1,200 a month to rent, which is equivalent to the monthly repayments that would be incurred by a person procuring a mortgage to build a house that would involve a cost of more than €200,000. This situation has been ongoing for a number of years and will continue. It makes no sense to incur such a debt when a fine site is available to build a school. As Deputy Deenihan said, both Deputy McEllistrim and I, as well as other people who will be contesting the election, were in the school on Monday and I understand the Minister previously visited it.

The school's administration secretary works in a room measuring about 30 sq. ft. It is not possible to open the door to enter the room because a filing cabinet is in the way. A resource classroom is also being used as a lunch room for the teachers and special needs assistants. The yard surface is uneven and highly dangerous and I assume the children are constantly falling and are a danger to themselves and to others. The playing pitch has been taken up by prefabs in order to meet the requirements of the pupil numbers.

The teachers' and parents' council is concerned that the school is far down the list. They hope the school will be categorised as a priority by the Minister and the Department so that the problems can be addressed speedily.

The Minister's reply is very bland and does not tell us anything. When I go back to meet the parents' council, the principal and the teachers they will be disappointed as they will not see themselves being any further on than in 2000.

Rather than repeating my reply to Deputy Deenihan, I acknowledge that Deputy Ferris is correct and that Deputy McEllistrim also expressed his concerns about this school. Had the school progressed its building project a few years ago, it would now be too small because the population of the area has grown and the numbers in the school have increased. It was therefore essential to examine the projected enrolments closely so that when the project is completed it will be suitable for the number of children in the school and for the extra teachers.

The Deputy will be aware of the allocation of learning support and resource teachers of which the school has 1.5, meaning at least two teachers are involved. The reduction in class size last year and next year and the commitment for the next three years could also impact on the number of teachers in the school, as could the population growth. Even though the conditions might be difficult at present, it may be to the school's benefit that a more accurate assessment has been made of its numbers and the staffing. The school numbers have been assessed and the technical team is now examining the school. This is evidence of a commitment by the Department with reference to the school building and modernisation programme.

The Dáil adjourned at 11.35 p.m. until10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 28 March 2007.
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