I welcome the delegation from the Gaelic Players Association, Mr. Dessie Farrell, CEO, Mr. Dara McGarty, Sligo football, Mr. John Shaw, Westmeath hurling and Mr. Mark McEntee, Cavan hurling. I am particularly delighted to welcome Mr. Dessie Farrell as a fellow Na Fianna man. We normally would have name plates in front of members but instead I shall introduce them. The committee members are Deputy Olivia Mitchell, Deputy John O'Mahony whom the delegation will know from managing Mayo county football, and Deputy Mary Upton. Some of the delegation may know Deputy Jack Wall, a former Kildare county board member. Also here is Deputy Seán Power, another Kildare man, Deputy Mary White, Deputy Cyprian Brady and Deputy John Cregan. I now invite the delegation to make its presentation and afterwards we will have a question and answer session.
Role and Functions: Discussion with Gaelic Players Association.
Mr. Dessie Farrell
I thank the committee for the invitation. I shall quickly introduce the delegation. I am accompanied by Mr. Dara McGarty, a former Sligo footballer who is now a GPA employee, Mr. John Shaw, a Westmeath hurler and Mr. Mark McEntee, from the Cavan hurling team.
We are here today to discuss the Government funding scheme and its status that was introduced last year. I do not know whether it is merited but I shall briefly give a statement on the GPA, why it was founded and its aims and objectives.
The GPA is committed to protecting and promoting all aspects of player welfare and providing a collective voice for inter-county players. It was founded in Belfast in 1999 as an official autonomous representative body for GAA players in response to a rapidly changing inter-county landscape. The GPA is a wholly self-funded, not-for-profit membership organisation dedicated to player welfare and the protection of players' rights. Since its inception it has constructively highlighted the issue of player welfare and the status of the player within the GAA.
The GPA is totally self-financing unlike other players' associations here and across the globe. We have secured our future thus far through an innovative commercial model that provides a wide range of promotional opportunities for players. These commercial partnerships have also funded our various objectives. Today's discussion topic is Government funding and we have spent six years campaigning for it. We have also campaigned for official recognition by the GAA. Recently we launched a jobs board specifically aimed at players that are unemployed due to the recession. Other initiatives include career and education advice and general player welfare advice. We sit on various Croke Park committees. We have established a very unique and highly successful programme whereby hurling squads are twined to help develop the sport in weaker counties. We have also established our fair play awards to highlight the issues around discipline within our game. We have our own general player awards that have been well received by all of our members and adds to the profile of players. We have a GPA scholarship programme. To date, over 265 scholarships have been awarded through the GPA benevolent programme that helps current and past players that fall on hard times. We are very involved in an anti-doping education programme for our members, sponsorship and charity activities for players. We are also involved in promotional activities for players and games through our player magazine, website and GPA associated programme. The latter encourages non-inter-county players to become members of the association and benefit from a range of affinity partners.
I have highlighted the type of activities we have been involved in and we would like to do more. We have an ongoing battle with the GAA for official recognition and funding. Today it is important for us to highlight who we are and what this discussion is about. With an inter-county membership of over 2,000 players, the GPA is now regarded as an influential and progressive representative body. The success of our organisation can be measured by the dramatic improvements in player welfare for all players, an increased profile for the player, and by extension, the games. Last year, for the first time, the contribution that players make to the social fabric of this country was recognised. In 2008 the Government-funded awards scheme for inter-county players was launched.
I have given a quick overview of our current aims, objectives and work and I can answer any questions now before I discuss the more substantive issue.
We will take the GPA's full presentation now and pose questions later.
Mr. Dessie Farrell
There has been a great deal of controversy and speculation around Government funding for inter-county players. The campaign began in 2002 when the then Minister for Finance, Charlie McCreevy, introduced a very lucrative tax break for professional athletes. High performance amateur athletes from various codes receive funding through the Irish Sports Council. In effect, the State recognised the contribution made by professional athletes through the tax system and high-performing amateur athletes through the then Department responsible for sport and the Irish Sports Council. A body of high-performing athletes and players, who contributed so much as inter-county players, did not receive State recognition or funding. That was the genesis of our hard fought campaign in 2002 and a lot of players were involved. Eventually our efforts resulted in the current scheme being implemented in 2008 but not without controversy. Unfortunately, our members had to threaten withdrawal of action and service before the scheme was implemented and established. It highlighted the level of frustration our players were experiencing at the time.
Last year the scheme was implemented and it was welcomed by all of our players. There was also huge cross-party political support in Government and Opposition parties. The GAA, though belatedly, assisted in the finalisation of the scheme. Every inter-county player that participated in last year's championship received funding from the State. For the past six months there has been a lot of speculation about the scheme's status and whether funding will be available due to the economic downturn. Recently a GPA delegation met the Minister and his officials where he outlined his thoughts. Unfortunately, we deemed his proposals as unacceptable at this stage. He proposed an elite scheme where funding would no longer be given to every inter-county player and the total sum available reduced from €3.5 million to €1 million. Instead the top eight teams in hurling and football would be in receipt of funding and also the finalists in the Christy Ring, Nicky Rackard and Lory Meagher competitions. This year about 22 teams will receive funding and 75% of our members will be removed from the original scheme. We took issue with this proposal on two fronts. It is elitist and runs contrary to the objective of the scheme at weaker levels, which is to assist in the promotional and aspirational aspects of those squads. The aim is to develop games at those levels and develop squads to reach their maximum potential. This was an important and integral part of the scheme; it was hard fought that the scheme should include all inter-county players. We are not about to abandon any members as outlined in the Minister's proposal.
There is also a huge issue relating to the level of funding. As we all know, the country is in difficult times and we have stated on numerous occasions that we are prepared to play our part and accept reductions in allocations of funding along the lines faced by other governing bodies and athletes. We believe this clearly stated position is fair and reasonable but the proposal made to us would reduce funding by 71%. To my mind this is difficult to justify.
We need some questions answered. Funding for the Irish Sports Council has been allocated and the agreement between the GAA, the GPA and the Government clearly stated that funding for this scheme was to come through the council. That is condition one of the agreement in black and white and I will read it just to be clear. It states, "Funding for the above schemes will be provided annually through the Irish Sports Council to the GAA and the criteria and arrangements for their disbursement will be agreed by the GAA, the GPA and the ISC". The pertinent point is that funding for the scheme was to be provided through the Irish Sports Council and we need to know why this has not happened. The Minister said funding came from a different pot last year because the scheme was late coming into existence and this is fair enough; the €3.5 million last year came from the sports capital programme. However, this year everyone knew the scheme needed to be funded somehow. Everyone knew inter-county players would not magically disappear and would seek the implementation of the scheme. Everyone knows players have fought long and hard to set out their position on the importance of this scheme. There are issues around parity of esteem with other athletes and the social and cultural contribution made by players to the fabric of Irish society. An important area is the revenue generated for the Exchequer. In 2003 the Dublin Chamber of Commerce indicated that Dublin city gained €20 million from that year's all-Ireland final, a significant sum for a single game. Players encourage participation in our national games and thus add to the numbers playing. They are role models for society.
These are the reasons the scheme was introduced in the first place but it has been savaged and its integrity undermined. The scheme no longer relates to funding for all inter-county players and is now elitist. The Minister said the requisite money was not available but why is this the case? Why was the funding not ring-fenced in the Department's allocation or in the Irish Sports Council's allocation? If this occurred due to an oversight we want to know who was responsible. If it is not due to an oversight but to an arbitrary decision by certain individuals, we want to know who they are. It says in black and white in the agreement that funding for the scheme must come through the Irish Sports Council. Why was the funding not ring-fenced in the budget of the Department or the Irish Sports Council?
The reason Mark McEntee and John Shaw are here is that players of this type contribute a great deal but will not benefit from this scheme as proposed by the Minister. We believe this is unfair and discriminatory, it is unwarranted and ill-conceived. We want an answer to our question of who is responsible for this decision.
I thank the delegation, Mr. Farrell, Mr. McGarty, Mr. Shaw and Mr. McEntee, for a clear and articulate presentation. I have been involved in the GAA throughout my life and realise the amount of commitment involved. The lives of the witnesses are built around Gaelic games and I wish to acknowledge this. Mr. Farrell pointed out that players' welfare has advanced a great deal and I agree, though this might have happened anyway. Regardless, the creation of the GPA in 1999 put players' welfare on the agenda. Some people feel that if this had been dealt with properly earlier, the GPA might never have been formed but that is history.
The grant proposals put to the GPA by the Minister last week were outlined by the delegation. Effectively, 22 teams would be involved and this would involve a reduction of 71%. The GPA is on record as stating it would accept the cut in line with all other cuts across the board but does the organisation have another position on this? It put forward proposals last week. Do the delegates feel there is another way around this? This area may be linked to recognition of the GPA by the GAA. Does the GPA stand by its statement of a couple of years ago which set out that it would not look to the GAA if the Government reneged on the deal? Will the GPA stand by that statement?
Mr. Dessie Farrell
We will stand by that because it was part of the agreement. We have no intention of reneging on any aspect of the agreement that relates to us.
I shall finish. Is there any other way the GPA can see around this problem? I do not think the Minister's proposal should be entertained but there must be a clear and quick resolution to this. Is there another way around this? Does the GPA have another position?
Regarding recognition by the GAA, I have noted recent GPA press statements and I feel it should come under the umbrella of the GAA. The witnesses and the GAA are in agreement on this but there is a difference of opinion on how it should happen. The GPA has laid down a condition that it should receive 5% of the GAA's funding. That would amount to €2 million, based on last year's figures. The GPA currently has sponsorship and private funding. Does that €2 million constitute additional funding? If the GPA came under the umbrella of the GAA, would that €2 million be part of the funding received from the GAA, or would it be additional funding?
Mr. Dessie Farrell
In an agreement between a players association and a governing body there are definite parameters laid down, particularly in the commercial area. If there was an official recognition agreement in place the GAA could stipulate that in certain areas the association was not allowed to engage sponsors or partners as that was solely within its remit. That is what typically happens elsewhere. It would, in effect, reduce the association's commercial capacity as a players association in return for an official recognition agreement and funding from the governing body.
I welcome Mr. Dessie Farrell and his colleagues and thank them for their very clear presentation. I am a strong GAA supporter. I would have been in Croke Park on Sunday were it not for the rain.
A fair weather supporter.
There are controversial issues regarding this scheme. The money came originally through the Irish Sports Council. Perhaps Mr. Farrell could outline what discussions the GPA had with the council, given that it is an integral part of what I would call a triangle between the Department, the council and the GPA. What is the council's role. The GPA has asked why the money was not ring-fenced. That is a question we have posed as well. I do not have an answer to that, and it is an important question. It was, in effect, ring-fenced the first time, so it would have been important to ring-fence it on this occasion. Why did that not happen?
Regarding the reduction from €3.5 million to €1 million, did the Minister offer a reason for such a substantial reduction? It is clear from the GPA's meetings with him that there was some money available, but it is far short of the percentage cut the GPA was to take. There may have been scope for compromise. However, that cut is huge relative to what was on the table to start with.
Mr. Farrell stated that the GPA has 2,000 members. Does that comprise all the eligible players in the country? If not, what percentage of eligible players does it represent? I ask to get a fix on how many people fall within the scheme and how many people would be affected by it.
Given the state of the economy at the moment, it is clear that there are problems for everybody, including GAA players. Can Mr. Farrell give an indication of the fall-out in terms of employment for his members? Does he have any figures relating to the numbers emigrating? That issue has been raised previously so it is important to address it to give us an idea of the impact on the players in terms of the economy, emigration and so on.
I have one or two other questions to which I will return later.
Mr. Dessie Farrell
I will answer the Deputy's last question first. We have been active in terms of employment for players and players losing their jobs and becoming redundant. It is a particularly stressful time for an inter-county player. It is stressful for anybody, but it is very difficult for an inter-county player, who must be so dedicated and focused on his preparations and on the games themselves, to have this huge burden thrust upon him now. We have, therefore, recently established a scheme to encourage anybody who has a position available in the workplace to advertise it on our website, we have encouraged players to upload their CVs on the website, and we try to match players to specific roles and opportunities. By our estimation, the unemployment rate among inter-county players is above the national average and is fast approaching 15%. That is quite significant. In the Minister's recent proposal to us what is forgotten in the statistics and figures is the practical benefit this scheme has for inter-county players. It has been criticised as derisory in terms of the money it provides for inter-county players and as being hardly worth the effort. The funding varies from €2,200 for players who participate in the All-Ireland finals to approximately €1,300 for players who exit earlier in the championship. However, it was of real and significant benefit to those players. Some of the lads might like to come in at some stage to vouch for the benefit to their squads and individuals on their squads.
As regards the 2,000 members, that accounts for approximately 96% to 97% of inter-county players. It is not just our members who receive funding. While we campaigned for several years, every inter-county player receives funding as it is administered through the GAA.
I understand Deputy Upton asked what percentage of eligible players the 2,000 members of the GPA represent?
Mr. Dessie Farrell
They represent approximately 97% of eligible players.
Regarding the massive reduction from €3.5 million to €1 million, we pressed the Minister on that and he simply said the money was not available. It beggars belief, given that everybody believed the scheme would be funded and everyone knew what budgets they were being allocated, that it was not ring-fenced. We have known for a long time that there is a great deal of opposition within the Department to the scheme with the underlying sentiment that players operating at the lower levels within inter-county competitions do not deserve any recognition in this regard. We strongly dispute that notion, but that is the type of sentiment that runs through the Department.
There was a question about the role of the Irish Sports Council in all of this. There has been very little communication with the council on this. It tends to defer to the Department. There was an issue around the release of funds in the first year of the scheme. Funding was to be allocated to players in October or thereabouts but this dragged on into November as it was the first years of the scheme and there were some teething problems to be ironed out. Funding was delayed for an unknown reason and in trying to ascertain the reasons we were going hither and tither between the sports council and the Department and the blame for the delay was placed at the door of other individuals and organisations. There seems to be a similar situation in regard to this scheme. We have been going from Billy to Jack for a long time. Again, we have asked who is responsible. The Department feels the responsibility for this scheme lies with the Irish Sports Council and I have no doubt that the council will say it lies with the Department.
I endorse the comments of the previous speakers and thank the representatives of the GPA for their presentation. The contribution of members on and off the field is acknowledged by all. I am a lifelong member of the GAA and have tremendous respect for all players, particularly inter-county players whom we all love to watch and admire. We must remember our club players as all inter-county players would have started with a club. I agree with Deputy O'Mahony on a role for the Gaelic Players Association in the GAA. Mr. Farrell outlined the reasons for an association to represent players when the GAA could not be proud of the provisions it made for the welfare of players. He acknowledged correctly the improvements that have taken place. Will he give some examples of the standard of player welfare at that stage and contrast it with the present situation? Is the GPA satisfied that players are well treated and that the provision for their welfare is of a similar standard in the county boards throughout the country?
I believe the GPA should be granted recognition and should be part of the GAA. References have been made to the Government grant of €2 million and the GPA request for 5% of GAA income. If that €2 million was not on the table, would the GPA have a difficulty in joining the GAA or would the GAA have a difficulty with accepting the GPA? To tease out the issue of funding further, the GPA has an award scheme, scholarships, advertises and promotes the games, and the GAA is doing something similar on the inside. Is there a duplication of effort? Would these activities be streamlined if both bodies were under the one umbrella? The GPA is currently funding those activities. Is that where the GPA spends its €2 million funding? Would the funding be given specifically to the GPA, if it were part of the GAA?
The GPA has always said that it does not want players to be paid to play, for which I admire it. The day we go down that road I believe is the day the GAA will finish. We are very proud of the amateur status of the GAA, which should be acknowledged.
I would describe the money paid last year as "recognition money". That recognition must continue in some shape or fashion. It is not pay for play. The GPA has also given examples of what it means to the local economy in provincial towns and in Dublin when a game is played on a Saturday or Sunday. I feel that Government recognition of Gaelic players must be maintained in some shape or fashion.
I do not know the detail of the scheme the Minister proposed. In respect of the €3.5 million, my understanding is that there was never funding provided by Government specifically for that cause. It has also been confirmed, as I thought to be the case, that the €3.5 million came from the sports capital grant scheme last year. As an aside, many were disappointed that not only GAA clubs but sporting clubs throughout the country, failed to make the cut and did not qualify because of decreased funding. I did not know that part of the funding had to be given to honour a commitment that was made to the GPA. I understand there was no budget for it in the year it started and there was no budget this year. We are talking about an old scheme that was not funded properly and a proposal for a new scheme that can be funded to some extent.
I have no detail of the new scheme that Mr. Farrell raised but it appears to be performance based if one is talking about a number of teams qualifying for funding if they have advanced in the various different championships and competitions year on year. While I take the point as regards a percentage of the 600 to 700 GPA players that would benefit from the scheme presently, would it not be fair to say that 600 would change all the time? Mr. Farrell's argument seems to be based on the fact that the very same teams will get to the same stage of the championship on a yearly basis. There is a strong possibility and a good incentive for teams to advance as far as they can in the championship in order to benefit from this scheme.
My understanding is that the Government paid the money to the Irish Sports Council under the old scheme. The Irish Sports Council was used as a vehicle to pay out the money. Was that in turn paid to GAA county boards who finally delivered the cheque?
Mr. Dessie Farrell
No, the GAA.
The GAA centrally was involved in administering it. How did players draw it down? Was it vouched or was it given to all members of all the panels or was it subject to players being involved in specific activities to benefit from the grant scheme? My bottom line is that we encourage the Government to continue to give recognition to the Gaelic players in the best way it can. It is acknowledged that we are living in very difficult times and all public representatives are lobbied on a daily basis for all sorts of causes. The GPA comes high on my agenda but I must be realistic and say that other areas of priorities must be dealt with. I understand that funding will have to be reduced. If there is a scheme on offer, it is a starting point at least. We have spent the past six months hearing about the old scheme and whether the money would be paid. At least we have received confirmation that there is a basis for a scheme and an opportunity to continue the payment of recognition money. I welcome that and of course when times improve we could improve the funding accordingly.
Mr. Dessie Farrell
The Deputy asked about vouched expenses and the nature of the scheme. The scheme was established to assist players with the associated costs around participating in inter-county games and was based on the additional costs that are not covered by the county boards. There was a rigorous process in terms of vouching and documentation and it was overseen at local level by a county board player committee and at national level by the national scheme committee, which comprises members of the GPA and Croke Park.
In response to the question on the duplication of effort, player welfare and what was the €2 million in Government funding used for, typically what happens in other players' associations is that the governing body is quite prepared to fund the players' association. That is their commitment to their players, to their athletes by funding the players' association to roll out the various programmes and initiatives that are required and identified as important by the members of the association. In this instance the GPA and our membership is no different. We identified the types of programmes we would like to be in a position to establish in areas such as education, employment, health and well-being. Any funding would be used to enhance programmes that are in place or to establish new ones.
It was suggested that €1 million was a good starting point. The €3.5 million last year was a good starting point. Is it fair that inter-county players are asked to shoulder the burden? Times are difficult economically and budgets are not as generous; is it fair that inter-county players are being asked to take a reduction of 70% in comparison to all other athletes and NGBs where the maximum reduction has been 10%? Why are our players being singled out for this special treatment? From a Government that espouses the virtues of fairness and inclusiveness, the reduction is savage.
The Government wants to move from a scheme that included all inter-county players to an elite scheme. Only a small percentage of new teams would ever be included because the stronger counties are always the same. The same players will always benefit while those operating at the middle and lower levels who do so much in their counties are treated in this despicable way.
Funding going to all other sports bodies amounts to €2 million and the funding on offer here is just €1 million.
That is through the Irish Sports Council.
I thank Mr. Farrell, Mr. McGarty, Mr. Shaw and Mr. McEntee for the presentation. I was chairman of the Kildare county board for 11 years during a time when I expected to see the GPA develop. I recognise the effort the players make, something no one can doubt.
It is a shame the figures given were for 2003. The figures we wanted were for the value of inter-county hurling and football in 2009, from the first round of the championship onwards. It is a huge amount of money but we must know exactly how much. We could then see the €1 million the Minister is offering is a pittance.
I am disappointed that Deputy Cregan is talking about his frame of mind. He is entitled to his opinion but the value of the GAA to the country cannot be under estimated. In Kildare this week, there were teams from every county in Ireland attending Féile, with more from America, Britain and elsewhere. Every one of them wore county colours and the pride and passion was plain for all to see. The GAA's value has been undermined in this area.
One must wonder where the lottery funding went. What is the story with that? It has disappeared, we are talking about €2.5 million being taken away while millions are generated every week in the lottery.
It is a downright insult to every county player that the Minister should even suggest this. All this started in the early 1970s when Kerry and Dublin started to play football and a gap developed because they were so far ahead of the rest. Everyone else had to try to catch up, with the players giving more commitment. The public wanted that in every county in Ireland. The result was longer training, dietary discipline and missing out on social and family life. All of those are covered in this topic. It is unbelievable to think the Minister does not have the guts to honour an agreement that states this money will be paid annually. There is no question that this is to be paid annually but, despite the economic benefit, we have not been able to do it.
How much time does an inter-county player put in each week? Comparing that with the miserly figure of €2,200 per player and €1,300 if they are beaten in the first two rounds, one can put a value on this offer. It is miserly and fails to reflect the commitment these players display.
I recognise that the GAA has a conservative attitude. The uachtarán, Christy Cooney, must move on in this area and ensure this issue will be put to bed once and for all during his term of office. The GPA is working to benefit the GAA, not in defiance of it. We must see that happen as quickly as possible. I have great faith in Christy Cooney and I hope this happens in the near future.
There is a need for the Minister to address this, particularly the funding from the lottery. We are talking about a pittance in comparison to the economic return.
I welcome the witnesses and compliment them for the work they do. It is important we put on record that the GAA games are the selling point of Cumann Lúthchleas Gael. I compliment the players for their endeavour and commitment. The GAA should formally recognise the GPA. It is regrettable that the Minister has treated Mr. Farrell and his players with contempt. We can camouflage the spin but the reality is that he has asked him to create an elite group of inter-county players, one for the premier class and one for the first division. That is wrong.
As Deputy Wall said we now have a terrible attitude to sport. The sports capital programme is frozen and there is a reduction in grants. If one reads the documentation, it is clear the Minister has reneged on his commitment. I would like to hear Mr. Farrell's comments in the context of the interaction he has had with the Irish Sports Council and the Department of Arts, Sport and Tourism. I hope John Treacy and the Irish Sports Council will adopt a more hands-on approach.
The GAA held a press conference this morning at which it stated it was not in a position to meet the GPA demand for 5% of its commercial income. However, according to the press release and the RTE website it could provide funding on a project based model. In terms of the GAA annual income, how was the 5% share figure arrived at? Is that its negotiating point or is it prepared to move from that figure. I have the greatest respect for the GPA and believe it has advanced player welfare — I say that as a former county board officer in Cork and chairman of my club. Does Mr. Farrell think his demand is against the amateur nature of the GAA? In the context of the GAA announcement today, is he prepared to negotiate with the GAA regarding the 5% share figure, given that it has published an eight point plan? While I will not go into the details of it today, is it more of the same, or does it allow for progression?
In the context of the General Players Association, a players group is a welcome addition. I may not agree with all of what it does and says but does the GPA see itself as embracing all players in, say, 12 months or five years' time, who play senior club hurling or football in each county or as representing the present cohort of 1,900 players who ran the inter-county? I compliment the GPA on opposing the new scheme proposed by the Minister because I am angry that he is trying to create an elitist element.
In regard to the GPA, Mr. Farrell will have read some of the newspaper reports in recent weeks and may not agree with some of the columnists. A great talking point in the GAA clubs is the different articles about the GPA. I wish to ask a couple of questions regarding its structure. Would the GPA be open to camogie ladies inter-county players being involved at a later stage? I appreciate the GPA has its annual general meetings but does it publish annual accounts? In fairness, it has had a very good scheme of commercial endorsements for its players. What is the value of the scheme to the GPA in terms of the commercial money it has raised for its players? Incidentally, its bursary scheme is very good.
If Mr. Farrell has answered this question before I came to the meeting I apologise. Is it known who made the decision to cut the funding? The Minister did not do it. Was he advised to do so and was the Irish Sports Council involved?
Will Mr. Farrell sit down with the GAA and work out a model going forward whereby the GPA will be recognised by the GAA? I appreciate it has some recognition through its involvement in Ard Comhairle. May I ask just one last question about the protest next weekend?
What about the rest of us?
My apologies. This is our committee. We are all sports people and we want to hear the delegates. In regard to the GPA protest next weekend, is it wrong to hit the supporters and fans who want to see and hear the players on "The Sunday Game" or on TV3 or read about them in the newspapers the following morning? Are not supporters who travel to the games to support the players penalised by that protest?
Much of what I wanted to say has been covered already but I thank Mr. Dessie Farrell and the delegation for appearing before the committee. Following on from Senator Buttimer, at what stage are the negotiations with the GAA? What is the format of those negotiations, is it a regular occurrence, is there direct contact on an ongoing basis or is it hit and miss? It appears from the statement that it has not progressed far from its original stance.
Deputy Cregan mentioned player welfare as did Mr. Farrell in his presentation. I congratulate the GPA specifically on its recent jobs initiative. That the organisation should go out in the present climate and look after its members, using whatever technology is available, is an excellent initiative.
On the issue of player welfare, a point made by Deputy Cregan, is there an overlap? Obviously the county boards and headquarters in Croke Park put a huge amount of resources and effort into player welfare. In his presentation, Mr. Farrell referred to the different areas he covers in respect of his members and players and puts great emphasis on player welfare. Is there common ground on which the GPA and the GAA could build?
Mr. Farrell mentioned a figure of 1,900 or 2,000 members. Are all county players affiliated to the organisation?
Mr. Dessie Farrell
I will start with Deputy Brady's questions. Negotiations have been ongoing for some time. Most people are aware that the GPA has been in existence for the past ten years and has been seeking official recognition. During the past 18 months to two years there has been activity around the official recognition process but as yet we have not achieved the ultimate objective which is regrettable. We are open to negotiations at all times. We have demonstrated in the past that we are fair and reasonable men and trustworthy in how we do our business. We would like to think that through the process of negotiation this situation will be resolved between ourselves and the GAA but ultimately there needs to be movement.
The issue of duplication has arisen in regard to various initiatives and programmes by the GPA and the GAA. Definitely, there is some duplication. I made the point recently at a press conference that the GAA needs to trust the GPA to look after the player welfare function and hand that responsibility over to the GPA. That poses a problem for the GAA in that it may feel it is losing some control or power which, despite whatever assurances we can give it, seems to be the case. That is regrettable. Ultimately it comes back to the issue of trust and an agreement and parameters being laid down in black and white. That can be overcome in due course. There is an amount of unnecessary duplication.
As a players body, the GPA is dedicated to the players and their welfare. We are best placed to identify their needs and to roll-out the initiatives required while the GAA has a much wider remit and many more objectives than player welfare and players in general. We have the finger on the pulse as regards the needs of players and hope to assume responsibility for that function in due course.
I also welcome Deputy Wall's questions and comments. Senator Buttimer referred to all players. We have established an associate membership programme for club players, supporters, officials and whoever might have a desire to join the organisation. It simply comes down to a question of resources and funding. We do not even have the funding to do what we want to do with inter-county players. I reassure the committee that if a club player knocks on our door looking for help in whatever regard, he will not be turned away. We do not necessarily like to broadcast that fact because there are so many club players and we would be inundated. Sometimes we are criticised by club officials who are not aware of that but we have assisted many club players since our inception ten years ago and will continue to do so as best we can within the means we have.
Issues related to our audited accounts and to our constitution have been addressed. The GAA has been furnished with copies of our constitution and audited accounts and that is completely transparent. We realise in the situation we are in that we need to be transparent and those issues have been addressed.
Deputy Wall referred to the time dedicated to inter-county competitions and this provides an opportunity to bring in the players. It varies from county to county and depends on the time of the season. Players' travelling time to and from training can vary but we estimate the average is 30 to 40 hours per week for the more successful teams. Mr. Shaw and Mr. McEntee will give the committee an insight into what they do at squad level.
Mr. John Shaw
I have been an inter-county hurler with Westmeath for the past nine or ten years. Westmeath is regarded as a tier 2 county. Since the GPA's inception, it has helped to dramatically change player welfare. We were not well looked after as a county hurling team in terms of meals after training, physiotherapy and medical support. That has changed and we are well looked after now. That has been proved on the field as well. We have been relatively successful over the past ten years winning two Christy Ring cups. Those were momentous days for Westmeath hurling. Preparation wise, as Mr. Farrell said, I put in 20 to 30 hours per week at the peak of the inter-county season. If one gets injured, one must take time off work to go to a physiotherapist or a doctor and so on. That commitment is not seen when people are sitting back in their armchairs watching the games. That is what goes on behind the scenes.
Inter-county players are also role models in their clubs. Young children aspire to be like them, no matter whether one is a Westmeath or Cavan hurler. Children aspire to being inter-county hurlers. The most disappointing element of the proposed programme is it is seen to be elitist. The most important thing for any inter-county hurler or footballer is recognition. The remit of the scheme would remove that recognition from me, Mr. McEntee and other hurlers and footballers from lesser counties. That is the kernel of the issue. While the monetary aspect is important, hurlers and footballers should be recognised first as inter-county players and I ask members to do all in their power to push forward that fact.
Mr. Mark McEntee
I am from Dublin originally and I moved to Cavan. We competed in the Nicky Rackard competition for many years before the Lory Meagher Cup came into play. When I arrived in Cavan first, we were regularly beaten by 15 or 20 points but now we are competitive. We win matches and get through to the later rounds of the Nicky Rackard and Lory Meagher competitions. That is like winning the Liam McCarthy cup and it is a great experience for us. The love of the game does not diminish, whichever county one plays for or whether one plays hurling or football. For this to happen us is discrimination. Where else would people be expected to take a 70% or a 100% pay cut? The Cavan hurlers are dumbfounded by what is going on. If I go out to vote in the morning, I am a first class citizen but, as a Cavan hurler, I will not be considered as such because the grant will be gone. The grant was introduced 12 months ago but now it is gone. What has changed? Who made this decision? Deputy Wall has been the best speaker and it was great to hear his words but this is bad and it has hit us for six.
What about the questions I asked about the structure of the GPA?
Mr. Dessie Farrell
We have officers such as the chairman, president and secretary. We have a national executive committee and under that we have representatives in each county for both codes who liaise with the relevant squads on our behalf. We have three full-time officers and one part-time officer.
The association has successfully entered into commercial arrangements with different sponsors. What is their value? Are these funds given directly to players or do they go into a central pool?
Mr. Dessie Farrell
These funds are used to finance the association and the various initiatives on behalf of players. We generate approximately €900,000 in commercial income. It is our only income. That is why we are unlike any other players' association in this country, as the others are significantly funded by their governing bodies. It is important not to confuse the issues of official recognition and Government funding, which is the subject of this discussion.
Our vision on player welfare has been articulated to the GAA. We need to move from the idea that player welfare revolves around a hot meal after training, a tracksuit or two tickets to a national league game to where it encompasses important issues relating to personal development, education, employment, health, well-being, counselling services and any benefit we can provide to players who commit so much to the amateur game and generate vast wealth for the GAA through inter-county competitions. That is a separate issue to Government funding.
Mr. McEntee and Mr. Shaw have articulated their case and the contribution they make to gaelic games. They are the proponents of our national games. Is that the way we want to treat our players? Do we think that is fair and just? I do not and GPA members do not. As a result, the scheme outlined by the Minister is entirely unacceptable. The crux is why the funding was not ring-fenced in the budget allocated to the Department and the Irish Sports Council. The Department's budget amounts to more than €500 million. Our scheme in its entirety, €3.5 million last year, represents 0.6% of that. If the committee does the calculation it will see how matters stand. Surely there could have been some accommodation to keep the integrity of the existing scheme which was very important to the players of our inter-county games. Surely some compromise could have been reached so that that integrity would not be undermined. That did not happen. I believe we have said enough.
I will call members of the committee first and other contributors will be called after that.
The Vice Chairman is engaging in discrimination and elitism as well.
I am following the rules of this organisation. Deputy Power knows I would otherwise have called him first as he was here early. The next three speakers will be Deputy Mary Alexandra White, Senator Labhrás Ó Murchú and Deputy Seán Connick.
I always get the graveyard slot here so many of the questions have been asked. I support the existing funding. I played sport at a high level until I got into the sport of politics, and there was never a bob around for the sports in which I was involved. It is not great when there has been funding and the rug is then pulled from under one's feet. I know we are in difficult economic times and that we must make difficult decisions. However, even in a recession when many people are unemployed, funding for sport should be continued.
I am not at all in favour of elitism. It will create a two-tier system. We have fantastic hurlers in Kilkenny, which is in the constituency that I represent. In the other half, Carlow, which has a little bit of catching up to do, hurling is coming on greatly. I do not believe in the top elite counties getting all the funding. It should be spread evenly. That is my strong personal feeling.
The transition of funding and how it is being passed on from the Government to the Irish Sports Council and down to the GPA is being badly managed. There does not seem to be a good trail of management systems there and that is disappointing for the GPA. The small amount it has been given as a registered flock owner is chickenfeed. The GPA should have its money. I strongly support that.
What other forms of revenue streams does the GPA have in terms of sponsorship? I am aware there is limited sponsorship. The organisation should get recognition from the GAA. I do not see why it should not be woven very carefully into the GAA. One of the players, and it is great to hear the players speak, mentioned how hard they train and the amount of time they spend away from their families and how, if they get an injury it puts them back for weeks and they might miss an important game. They should have the support and it would be wrong if they did not.
One of the issues that arises is that of gender balance and whether girls playing camogie and football will be able to tap into this stream. It would be important that they should be able to do so.
Parents whose children play sport and who are involved in summer camps often come to me in my clinics and are concerned about discipline on the field. I would like to hear the views of the GPA in that regard, given that we have had some unsavoury incidents from time to time. What is the organisation doing about that? It is a question that is often asked by parents because they are worried about their children getting a box on the ear or a smack in the face when they are older and get onto the higher teams.
Mr. Dara McGarty
It is part and parcel of it.
It is part and parcel of it. However, I want to know the GPA's views in regard to discipline. I support the GPA. I support the principle of funding it. It is a small amount of money overall, €3.5 million. I am aware money is tight and that we have to stretch it a long way. However, the way this is being managed is not good.
Go raibh a maith agat. Cuirim fáilte roimh na daoine sa toscaireacht anseo. Gabhaim buíochas leo toisc an cur i láthair a thug siad dúinn — bhí géarghá leis. Ní leor é a bheith ag féachaint ar na cinnlíntí sna nuachtáin nó na díospóireachtaí conspóideacha. Tá sé níos tábhachtaí a bheith in ann bualadh leis na lads agus a dtuairimí a chloisteáil. Tréaslaím leo mar gheall air sin agus tá muid buíoch toisc gur tháinig siad isteach chugainn.
I sincerely welcome the delegation who have been most helpful and have given a great presentation. It is much better for us to meet the lads and hear what they have to say than to read newspaper headlines of no great substance or controversial debates that always surround issues such as this. Any nation that has a group of young men like the ones we have here today, who speak so passionately about our native games, should be particularly proud. Amateur sport, hurling and football, is professional in its presentation and describing it as amateur has the wrong connotation because it suggests that in some way it is less inspiring than what are regarded as commercial or professional sports. That can have a detrimental effect in terms of the provision of State funding because, to some extent, amateur players are underestimated. It is as simple as that.
We are talking about more than sport. We are talking about culture and social mores, and we are also talking about the economy. If one were to look at what the GAA and these players have done for the economy, and it is absolutely and utterly unique, one would not be talking €3 million, €4 million or €10 million. One would be huge money. If one were to travel to New York on the day of an All-Ireland final, or to Sydney or anywhere else, and see the people gathering in the local halls to watch the game, one would realise the contribution these players are making to the diaspora. They are making it in a very fundamental and very inspiring way.
We must give recognition to what these men and women have achieved through the games. There is no doubt that they have made a major contribution to this nation. Historically, we are celebrating 125 years of the GAA, and we are getting an insight into what the games have done for this county in so many difficult times. One of the saddest events in this country was the Civil War and the body that healed the wounds inflicted during that period was the GAA and its players. People from both sides of the Civil War went out and played with their team even though they had been enemies prior to that. I would much prefer that the young generation had these role models at their disposal than some role models which come through a syndicated commercial system globally. The young people who follow the games will think very deeply about the example that has been provided.
Mr. John Shaw referred to the amount of time that must be spent in preparing for games. He is very magnanimous in admitting that things have improved. When I played with the GAA we went to a famous grocer's shop after training, we bought a bottle of milk and the lady behind the counter made tomato sandwiches for us, and we thought we owned the world. It must be recognised, however, that it is a totally different world for today's young people.
Deputy Wall referred to the pressures on players and on their families. We must take a step back and put a value on what we have and not take it for granted simply because there is a huge voluntary input, simply because it has this historical background. We must recognise what it means to the country itself. I am inclined to stand back from the GPA situation. I see that more as an internal matter for the organisation and I am not sure that any comment here would even help in that regard. However, we are answerable as Members of the Oireachtas when it comes to public funding. That was Deputy Cregan's point. He was trying to be pragmatic and show what is possible. There is a divergence between the GAA and State funding. I would like to see the Minister revisit the situation. Has there been a review of the scheme? It is a normal function of Government where funding is involved that an independent review would take place. We are already starting with 1,900 members, a large number given the calibre of membership. I recommend an immediate review by the State of the value for money being provided by the GAA and I am sure it will uphold the positive views expressed today.
I hope that the GAA situation can move forward. I am supportive of the GPA cause and I know what its members mean to the nation and to the games. Is the pubic debate more of a hindrance than a help? There can be entrenched positions as a result of such a debate and sometimes it is difficult to focus on the issues. In the next week there should be some communication without the glare of publicity so we could make some progress. I am not suggesting the debate was wrong, I am looking to the future and how that would help. How would the GPA feel about an independent review in the immediate future?
The Minister has cut the funding. Fianna Fáil cannot have it both ways.
The Senator wants to be all things to all people.
This was not a once off.
At least I will be honest in what I say.
Do not play to both sides of the house. We had funding in place and it has been cut.
If Senator Buttimer is right and he accepts it as a fait accompli, what is the point in discussing it? I am not accepting it as a fait accompli.
The Minister is.
I am not the Minister and I know of many reviews where it has been possible to move forward. I have no doubt that the GPA would come out on top.
The public debate has taken place but did it help? It is unfair to the GPA that there must be this ongoing pressure when there must be some private method to advance this. I wish the association well but I will not subscribe to negativity.
I welcome the players to the committee and thank them for their presentation. No one could better describe how we all feel about the GAA and how important it is to us than Senator Ó Murchú. I agree with every word he said, it encapsulated exactly how we are thinking. We are passionate about the GAA, football and hurling are the greatest field sports in the world. I thank the players for the contribution they make to society and the excitement they bring, particularly during the championship.
The scheme was referred to as elitist. We are in difficult times and the Minister has told us the cupboard is bare. Of the €3 million, €2 million is going to the other 16 sports and €1 million to the GPA. Is that a starting point in terms of negotiation? Where does the GPA stand on that offer? Are there alternatives to the Minister's proposals? Is there a structure that could build on the current offer?
What type of structures exist for support on the GAA side? Is there a crossover or are they separate funding streams? Could they be merged, with a contribution from Government and a contribution from the GAA? I understand the GPA is negotiating for 5%.
Wexford was not in the Leinster senior final this year. I tuned in, however, on Sunday. RTE is often criticised at this committee but no organisation covers GAA better. No disrespect to TV3, but there was a huge difference in the coverage, it was not as enjoyable an event. Does the organisation want to see the loss of the national games to all channels? When I was growing up everything was free to air on all channels. What direction are we heading with the broadcasting of games?
Mr. Dessie Farrell
The contribution from the GAA to the funding of the Government scheme was mentioned. The GAA had signed an agreement that it would not be called upon to fund the scheme in the event of the funding being reduced. It stated that clearly and we have also stated that we will not call on the GAA to fund this scheme.
On the pertinent point on the €1 million, we realise the situation the nation is in but how can it be justified that inter-county players, whom we all, including Fianna Fáil politicians, speak so highly of, should suffer a 70% reduction? We had stated repeatedly that we would take a reduction in line with other sports bodies so for us to be singled out in this way is very unfair. Why did this happen and who made the decision?
Senator Ó Murchú made some good points about the independent review. It is not a fait accompli. We find ourselves in a difficult position but we call on the Minister to revisit this and to take on board comments made at this meeting. Ultimately, it is unfair to single out inter-county players for savage cuts and, hopefully, that sentiment will be conveyed to him and his officials.
It is important for the GAA and the GPA to debate issues. While debate is welcome, the glare of publicity and the media spotlight does not help. However, if we have the opportunity to sit down with GAA officials behind closed doors and there is movement, we can come to an agreement at the end of the day.
The Senator referred to the amateur nature of our games and players. While the GPA and the vast majority of our players fully endorse the amateur ethos of the association, this is not about creeping professionalism. Players are happy that the games are amateur but they feel aggrieved that because they are amateur, somehow there is a tendency to treat them in an amateurish way. That is totally unacceptable and they feel that has happened in this instance with the reductions in funding for inter-county players.
On the value placed on inter-county competitions and the contribution of players to the Exchequer, as Deputy Wall mentioned, the only figures to hand relate to the 2003 All-Ireland final. The Dublin Chamber of Commerce conducted a study of that. We are investigating the possibility of conducting research on the contribution of inter-county competitions to the Exchequer. We have asked the GAA if it would be in a position to assist us in funding such significant research and the association is also investigating this. We do not know where that stands, given the dispute between us and the association, but, ultimately, it is important to conduct such an economic analysis. It would prove to support the argument we are trying to put to the Minister and the Government regarding the contribution of inter-county competitions and, by extension, players, to the Exchequer.
I referred to the funding streams issue. Where do the negotiations with the Minister stand?
Mr. Dessie Farrell
The Minister stated it was a time for reflection. We sincerely hope he reflects on what was said at the previous meeting and that departmental officials do likewise.
A transcript of this meeting will be sent to the Minister and, therefore, he will be made fully aware of the views expressed.
I thank the members of the delegation for attending and sharing their views with us. It is important that Mr. Farrell should appear this week because he will be in mourning next week. At this time of the year, more than at any other, counties take pride in their footballers and hurlers and how they perform. Most counties are busy preparing for championship matches next weekend and the weekend after and they could have done without the controversy that has erupted over the grants to inter-county players. Everybody acknowledges the enormous contribution and effort made by inter-county players. In recognition of this, a policy decision was made after lengthy negotiations, in which the late Seamus Brennan was very much involved, that we would show our appreciation and acknowledge the effort made by agreeing to a scheme to which €3.5 million was allocated last year. Players from every county benefited as a result and it is most unfortunate that less than a year after its introduction, the scheme's continuation is being brought into question.
I raised this matter by way of Adjournment debate in the Dáil last week. I was not aware that €1 million rather than €3.5 million was on offer but that is not acceptable. Mr. Farrell referred to Fianna Fáil TDs making cases and trying to appreciate the position. I am proud to be a member of Fianna Fáil but I do not agree with everything that happens within the party or the Government. When we feel something needs to be changed, we take action and that is the reason we are listening to the GPA presentation today. The offer of €1 million should not be accepted and I am embarrassed by it. As Mr. Farrell acknowledged, the GPA is very much aware of the downturn and the reductions in funding to other sports organisations and it is no different in that regard. However, we are seeking a reasonable reduction.
The proposal to ensure only elite counties benefit must be opposed and it does not even merit discussion. I refer to the contribution made by Mr. McEntee and Mr. Shaw. There is little difference in the effort made regardless of which county a player represents. The GAA introduced new rules preventing counties from training until January but any player who is serious will do his own training in the autumn and winter before the squad comes together in January. Only two teams qualify for the All-Ireland final and train for an additional few weeks but there is little difference in the effort put in by teams beaten in the provincial finals or All-Ireland semi-finals. They put in the same effort and those who are successful train for an additional few weeks. One can imagine the commitment required of Cavan hurlers to train on a frosty night in January. The team has had little success compared with Kilkenny, Cork or Tipperary whose players know starting out that their chances of winning a provincial title are high and there is always the possibility of All-Ireland glory. There is probably more commitment required from Cavan hurlers than Kilkenny hurlers in many respects. The games should be promoted in every county and it would be detrimental to limit the number of counties eligible under the scheme. I hope that will never have to be tolerated. A policy decision was made on this scheme and it is important to retain it.
Mr. Farrell referred to the meeting last week and "a period of reflection". Have arrangements been made for a further meeting? Last year's contribution under the scheme was not paid out until December and even January of this year. We have time to rectify the scheme but it is important that it continues. It is also important that the committee takes a strong view on this and expresses it to the Minister.
I thank the Vice Chairman for accommodating Members of the Houses, including myself, who are not members of this committee. It is a sign of the strength of this committee that non-members can voice their opinions on this subject, which is dear to our hearts.
I wish to recognise the work Mr. Farrell has done for players' welfare on behalf of the GPA. He has lobbied for the past ten years and has come before other committees on the issue of tax credits. The request relating to that issue was refused so perhaps Mr. Farrell felt he had reached the promised land when the €3.5 million was committed because he really achieved something. The decision relating to the €3.5 million was political because the previous Minister for Arts, Sport and Tourism announced it. It was a commitment made before the last election. On what basis was the figure of €3.5 million reached? Were guarantees attached to the money? Was it supposed to be multi-annual funding or once-off? Someone asked who decided the figure should be reduced. The Minister has now offered €1 million. A Minister made the first announcement relating to the €3.5 million and the current offer is €1 million. This is a political issue, rather than one for the Irish sports Council. The decision on how much to give the GPA will be, ultimately, a political one. The Minister is bargaining with the GPA, not John Treacy.
What are the reasons for giving this money to the GPA? A number of speakers have mentioned the value of the GAA to the country and we are very fortunate to have unique, attractive games, hurling and Gaelic football, that are recognised the world over. Hurling may be more attractive to watch than football but both are shown around the world through the Internet and so on. If the Government seeks to match the value of these games it should support the people who provide the entertainment. There is a significant revenue stream from the games. The rugby match between Ireland and England three years ago yielded around €19 million for the Exchequer, according to an evaluation that was carried out. The €20 million mentioned regarding the 2003 All-Ireland final would probably be a greater figure today. I think it would come to over €1 billion if it applied all over the country. The Exchequer would receive one third of this.
If the games are to be showcases they must feature athletes who are physically prepared to entertain, otherwise spectators will not come. For this reason the human resource element of the GAA will have to be examined and supported. The GAA has the physical elements, it has the finest stadium in the country and perhaps the world. No other organisation in Ireland can compete on facilities so it is time for the GPA to look after the human resources — the players. The GAA has put in place massive physical infrastructure and player welfare is more important than ever before due to competition from Old Trafford, international soccer, international rugby, inter-provincial rugby and so on. There is great competition for players so they must be nurtured and looked after.
The sum of €2,000 is a pittance but as a principle it represented recognition, respect and appreciation for players. It meant players were valued. Not a single inter-county player in Ireland is making money from the GAA, unless he is also a coach or on a FÁS scheme. Rank and file GAA players who hold down other jobs are losing money. They are missing out on overtime and compromising their family lives. There is no doubt that they are losing out and this is the case because they love the game and have pride in their counties. Players are prepared to do this but anyone who thinks GAA players are on a gravy train is mistaken. Most players lose out considerably through their involvement in the GAA and the €2,000 was merely recognition.
I do not know whether it was a coincidence that the press release was issued on the day the GPA delegation visited this committee but I think it is very positive. The GAA should recognise the GPA immediately and its office should be in Croke Park. The GPA should be an integral part of the organisation and should be encouraged and resourced in every way possible. The GAA must look after its human resources, the people who showcase its games. The issue of the grant, a political question, should be clarified soon.
There is a lot I would like to say about recognition of the GPA by the GAA but now may not be the time. I appeal to the GPA to bring this matter to a conclusion and if representatives of the GAA were here I would appeal to them to do likewise. That may be for another day because today's meeting is about grants. How did the Minister justify an elitist scheme, besides saying the money is not available? It is ironic that the GPA has been accused of being elitist when it is now having a far more elitist scheme foisted on it. GAA players were ignored when Charlie McCreevy's scheme was introduced because of their amateur status. The players were an afterthought and it took six years to get last year's grants. Now they are the first to be axed. I am glad to hear cross-party support on the matter before us today because it is not acceptable.
Regarding elitism, the proposal before the GPA is like giving Olympic athletes a grant only if they reach a final or win a medal. The delegates have referred to many recent advances by Westmeath, Cavan and so on. Antrim reached an Ulster final and Dublin hurlers have improved greatly — a few years ago Westmeath would have beaten them. There has been much progress and, given the cross-party support we have seen today, I feel this committee should ask the Minister to re-examine this scheme. The Minister should read the transcript of what was said today and allow for the importance of the contribution of GAA players to Irish culture. He should make a realistic proposal and sort out this matter, once and for all. We are in the middle of the championship season. Clarity needs to be brought to this issue and this would be a way to do that.
We all agreed with that suggestion.
I fully support Deputy O'Mahony and there is general support for his suggestion from the committee. When the scheme is signed off, it should comprise a realistic offer and commitment. Will Mr. Farrell confirm a commitment was made to provide funding annually and this was not a once-off payment? If so, the commitment must be to provide funding again. Who signed off on the initial agreement on behalf of the Government? Was it a Minister or an official?
Mr. Dessie Farrell
The late Seamus Brennan was at the helm when the scheme was established. The agreement has nine conditions. The first condition states clearly the scheme is to be funded by the Irish Sports Council while condition No. 9 states the scheme "will be subject to a triennial independent review to be carried out under the aegis of ISC". That indicates the funding was to be provided on an annual basis and a commitment was made to a triennial review of the operation of the scheme. When players read this, it is hard to justify the sea change in attitude.
In response to Deputy Deenihan's question, the political decision at the time was to provide €3.5 million. It is still a political decision and a political issue. The offer of €1 million is unwarranted and ill-conceived. The notion of an elitist scheme drives at the very heart of our organisation and it would be very divisive. It is completely unacceptable and the players and myself would welcome representations to the Minister and departmental officials by the committee and individual members to ask them to revisit this.
On what basis was €3.5 million provided? Was the figure plucked out of the air?
Mr. Dessie Farrell
The figure was negotiated. The former Minister for sport, Deputy John O'Donoghue, had indicated at some stage that €5 million would be on the table. Agreement was not reached then but it was subsequently agreed that €3.5 million would be provided.
I thank Mr. Farrell and his colleagues for attending. They have given us a full and frank account of what they are doing. I congratulate them on what they have done on behalf of players. In my day, 30 years ago, player welfare comprised going into a old rusty iron shed in Parnell Park and if I was given a cup of tea and a biscuit, I was doing well. If one suffered a knock, one went home. Many times when I was clattered across the head with a hurley, I had to drive to hospital on my own to be stitched and then drive myself home. If I was lucky, someone might ring the following day to find out if I was still alive.
I congratulate the GPA on the advances it has made. We all recognise what the GAA does commercially. Next Sunday, 82,300 people will be packed into Croke Park while 50,000 will attend the Tipperary-Waterford game.
The Vice Chairman should think about the sorrow that will be experienced around Dublin city on Sunday night.
I would not like to put on a white shirt.
The committee has agreed to communicate to the Minister the feelings of members about the sum on offer and to ask him to revisit the matter.
Is that a formal proposal?
I am committing to communicate with the Minister the unanimous view of all members that the sum of €1 million should be increased. We live in difficult times. The former Minister, Deputy O'Donoghue, was more flush but we all agree players deserve better. We would like to acknowledge the value of what the players do for the GAA and their counties, clubs and communities.
A number of GAA inter-county players have had trials with Premier League soccer teams in England whose coaches said they were fitter than professional soccer players. The attendances at GAA matches are often twice those of major Premier League clubs. The points are well made about the GAA's contribution to our economy, culture and youth. The GPA deserves great commendation for what it has done for the players. On behalf of the committee, I wish the representatives continued success. I hope the next time we meet, the story will be much better.