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JOINT COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND CHILDREN díospóireacht -
Thursday, 16 Oct 2003

Vol. 1 No. 16

Health Act 1970 (section 76) Simpson’s Hospital Estate Act (Amendment) Order 2003.

I welcome the Minister of State at the Department of Health and Children, Deputy Ivor Callely, and his officials to assist the committee in its consideration of the proposal that Dáil Eireann and Seanad Éireann approve the following draft order: Health Act 1970 (section 76) Simpsons Hospital Estate Act (Amendment) Order 2003.

Before we commence, the committee should be aware that the draft order as circulated contains a small error. On page three, paragraph three of the draft, paragraphs (a) to (c) and (e) to (g) should be relabelled paragraphs (a) to (f), inclusive.

I invite the Minister to brief the committeeon the draft order before taking members'questions.

I am delighted to be here. I know the good work the Chairman and the members of the committee perform and I wish them continued success.

The reason for my appearance before the committee is a minor, technical issue, but it is appropriate to the 21st century. Simpson's Hospital dates back to 11 December 1778, when George Simpson bequeathed the residue of his estate, in trust, to trustees "to erect, support and maintain a hospital for the reception of such poor, decayed, blind and gouty men as they should think worthy of such a charity." The charity was established by the Simpson's Hospital Estate Act 1779 and was amended by the Simpson's Hospital Act 1861.

The trustees believe that to continue to operate in the 21st century it is necessary to update the charter. That, quite simply, is what we are doing. The trustees wish to accept female patients and to modernise the description of the patients that can be admitted. They are deleting the paragraph concerning the election of trustees to allow more flexibility in finding new board members and are deleting the sentence in the original charter that states: "the total spending for a year should not exceed £1,000". These amendments are covered in paragraph three of the draft that has been submitted.

The purpose of paragraph three of the draft is to insert "and women", wherever the word "men" appears in the original Act. I am sure some of the ladies on the committee will welcome the wording. In fact, I am sure both genders will welcome the change, not just women. A further purpose of paragraph three is to remove the need to elect trustees within three calendar months of the death or resignation of a trustee and to remove the need to publish details of election in the Dublin Gazette and other Dublin newspapers and to remove the ban on the charity being incorporated with any other charity. Also, to remove the limit of £1,000 on the purchasing power of the trustees.

The hospital has been in discussions with the Eastern Regional Health Authority to develop services for older people of both sexes. The trustees need to broaden their powers under existing statutes to allow them to borrow money on the security of the charity's property for development of services in partnership with the ERHA.

The trustees wish to delegate to the hospital matron and secretary power over staff, in keeping with their position. These amendments are covered in paragraph four of the draft submitted. The purpose of this paragraph is to give the trustees authority to borrow, using the charity's property as security, and to give the trustees authority to sell part of the charity's property and reinvest proceeds in lands and properties as well as granting leases on such properties. The trustees will be given power to delegate authority to employ, appoint and terminate the appointment of an employee.

For the information and benefit of members of the committee, this has been given serious and due consideration by all trustees, all those involved in Simpson's Hospital and all involved with the ERHA. It is on their recommendation that I and my Department bring this order before the committee today.

I thank the Minister of State for his presentation. Any questions? Minister, where is the hospital located?

It is in Dundrum. I have been to see it. It is quite an old structure and very quaint. One would not expect to find it in the heart of Dundrum or Dublin. If members of the committee would like to visit I can arrange it. It is an old period house that has been converted into accommodation for men only.

How many does it accommodate at present?

I believe it is 80.

Is it a type of nursing home?

More or less.

Does it cater for men only?

They have been operating under the terms of their charter?

Are all the men gouty?

I think we might need your professional opinion on that.

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