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Seanad Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 26 Nov 2003

Vol. 174 No. 18

Book of Estimates 2004: Statements.

I am delighted to have this opportunity to debate the 2004 pre-budget Estimates in Seanad Éireann.

The 2004 pre-budget Estimates provide for a total expenditure on public services of €40.4 billion in 2004, which is an increase of €1.9 billion or a 5% increase on the forecasted outturn for 2003. The gross allocation for current spending is just under €35 billion or a 6% increase on the forecasted outturn for 2003. The gross Exchequer provision for capital investment is €5.5 billion, which is two and three quarter times the level of capital expenditure in 1997. The overall level of investment provided for 2004 represents a substantial allocation of resources in providing for day to day public services and for development of the economy into the future. The Estimates have been formulated with a view to consolidating the substantial economic and social progress which the Government has achieved since 1997 and to ensuring that the economy is well placed to take advantage of the expected upturn in the international economy.

Despite the international economic downturn in recent years, Ireland's growth rate is still well above the EU average. The EU Commission projects GDP growth for Ireland of 3.7% in 2004 compared to growth in the EU 15 of 2%. Our unemployment rate at 4.4%, which is down from 10.3% in 1997, is currently half the EU average and our general Government debt level at an estimated 34% of GDP is the second lowest in the EU. It is important that we do not allow these achievements to be dissipated by imprudent management of the economy now.

As the Minister for Finance indicated in his contribution to the debate in the other House on the Estimates, there are a number of factors which must be taken into account in assessing our economic prospects as a small open economy and in framing our spending policy. As a result of a slower than anticipated global recovery in the second half of 2003, the official economic projections for Ireland's GDP growth in 2003 were revised downwards from 3.5% to 1.5% in August. Ireland is part of a monetary union where monetary policy is focused on ensuring a low inflation environment, with the ECB aiming to maintain the rate of inflation at close to 2% over the medium term. International competition is exerting downward pressure on goods prices and is likely to continue to do so for some time to come. International competition for jobs and investment is also becoming more intense.

On a point of order, will we get a copy of the Minister's speech shortly?

It is on its way. I apologise for the delay.

The Government is playing its part in keeping costs down by continuing the process begun in 2002 of bringing public expenditure under tighter control to reflect economic realities. We can no longer sustain the levels of spending which the exceptional economic growth between 1997 and 2000 allowed. As economic growth has moderated, the Government has followed a course of bringing spending increases more in line with increases in revenue. The gap between revenue and public spending growth has been reduced by keeping a tight rein on spending over the past 18 months. All Ministers have played their part by actively managing their budgets and by implementing effectively the measures relating to financial management and control which were announced in last year's Estimates debate. Particularly important is the monthly reporting to Government on expenditure trends and the requirements placed on Departments in relation to risk assessment and contingency planning to cater for unforeseen pressures.

If we fail to manage the public finances sensibly, we run the risk of either an early return to higher levels of taxation or excessive levels of borrowing. This could undermine the significant progress made since 1997 in generating economic growth, increasing employment levels and tackling poverty. The 2004 Estimates are designed to consolidate this progress and to lay solid foundations for ensuring that the economy is well positioned to benefit from the upturn in the international economy which now seems to be developing.

As a result of the policy of keeping tighter control of public expenditure, the rate of increase in gross spending this year is expected to moderate for the third year in a row. In 2003 gross spending is expected to increase by 7.6% over 2002. The corresponding annual increases for the previous two years were 14.4% and 20.7%, respectively. However, the outturn on gross spending is estimated to be higher than provided in the Revised Estimates by €340 million. The additional gross spending is offset by additional receipts from the health levy, moneys recouped from the United Kingdom for health services and higher PRSI income into the Social Insurance Fund, giving a forecasted net excess of €115 million.

The Government has continued in the 2004 Estimates with its policy of giving priority to the areas of social welfare, health, education and infrastructure. Health, education and social welfare spending will account for 67% of the total gross allocation of more than €40 billion next year.

Before dealing in more detail with the sectoral allocations I want to dispel the notion that the Government is seeking to introduce stealth taxes and promote increased charges in order to fund the proposed increases in public spending. The total value of additional charges foreseen as a result of the 2004 Estimates, including motor tax increases, is estimated at some €91 million. This represents less than 0.3% of the total gross provision of more than €40 billion in public spending provided for in the Estimates.

The provision for health spending is more than €10 billion, an increase of €739 million, or 8%, over the forecast outturn for 2003. Cumulative spending on health from 1997 to 2004 has been €53,000 million and the share of total national public expenditure on health has increased from 19.2% in 1997 to 24.9% in 2004. This investment has resulted in real improvements in the delivery of front-line health services.

There are now about 96,000 staff employed in providing health services, compared to 66,000 in 1997. During this time an additional 6,000 nurses have been recruited, which amounts to 22% of the total increase. A further 8,500 people – over 30% of the increase – have been recruited to the medical, dental or health and social care professional grades. These employees are providing an increased level of front-line health care.

The gross allocation for education and science is €6.5 billion, an increase of €674 million, or 11%, on the forecast outturn for 2003. The cumulative increase in gross expenditure on education over the period 1997 to 2004 will amount to €3.3 billion, a doubling of expenditure over the period. This has funded significant improvements in the pupil-teacher ratio. At primary level the ratio has fallen from 22.2:1 in the 1996-97 school year to 18:1 in the 2002-03 school year, while at second level the ratio has fallen from 16:1 to 13.6:1 in the same period. As in the case of the health sector, the 2004 Estimates will continue to support the employment of significant numbers of front-line staff. There will be nearly 79,000 employees in the delivery of educational services, including approximately 2,500 resource teachers and 1,530 learning support teachers in the primary system and more than 5,500 special needs assistants employed in first and second level schools to ensure that children with special educational needs in mainstream classes receive the educational supports necessary.

Before allowing for any budget day social welfare rate increases, the allocation for social welfare, at €10.6 billion, is the single biggest expenditure provision in the Estimates. On that basis, spending in 2004 on social welfare will have almost doubled since 1997, notwithstanding that unemployment has fallen from 10.3% to 4.4%. There has therefore been a very significant increase in real terms in the level of social welfare provision since 1997 and real increases in benefits for social welfare recipients. There will be changes in eligibility conditions for some social welfare payments in 2004 arising from ongoing reviews of relevant schemes to ensure they continue to meet their objectives. However, the economies arising will amount to an estimated €56 million, which represents just over 0.5% of the total gross pre-budget provision of €10.6 billion for social welfare.

Before turning to capital expenditure I want to address the issue of public service pay and numbers. The Government is committed to honouring its pay commitments in Sustaining Progress, provided the conditions in the agreement are met. The conclusions of the performance verification groups which have been established to monitor progress in implementing change will be examined in this regard. If groups or sectors breach the terms of Sustaining Progress, payments will not be made in those areas. The 2004 Estimates therefore provide for Exchequer-funded public service pay and pensions of €14.2 billion, an increase of €1.1 billion, or 8%, on 2003.

A number of considerations are worth noting. First, this rate of increase is lower than that of any of the last four years. In 2003 a six-month pay pause for the public service was secured, which meant that all the increases due under Sustaining Progress are to be paid in 2004. The pay pause in 2003 saved the Exchequer about €180 million this year. The 2004 increase does not just cover benchmarking but comprises the general round increases under Sustaining Progress, costing €540 million, and the 2004 increases arising from benchmarking, costing €305 million. A total of €265 million of the additional pay cost is due to other factors such as the payment of the increase due to the application of the part-time work legislation in education, an increased provision for the EU Presidency, increments, an extra pay day in 2004 for some staff and an increase in the number of pensioners. Benchmarking accounts for just over a quarter of the expected increase in the pay bill. If we wish to provide quality public services which benefit all sectors of society, we must continue to pay public servants at rates which are reasonably comparable to those in the private sector. Otherwise we will not be able to attract and retain good quality public servants.

The best way of managing public service pay costs is through a combination of partnership and negotiation of increases in line with our ability to pay, seeking improvements in the quality of service provision and controlling public service numbers. Staff numbers in the public service increased by 59,000, or 27%, between 1997 and 2002. These increases are unsustainable in the context of the moderation in economic growth which we have experienced and the slower growth in tax revenues. Accordingly, the Minister for Finance announced in last year's budget a cap on numbers employed in the public service and a reduction of 5,000 in the overall numbers employed. The Government subsequently agreed the timing and details of the reductions and has sought to minimise the impact on front-line staff in implementing them. A reduction of 2,000 is expected by the end of next year while the full impact of the reduction in numbers will be seen in 2005 and 2006.

The gross allocation for Exchequer capital expenditure will be €5.5 billion in 2004, which is some 2.75 times the 1997 expenditure of €2 billion. Within this overall allocation for 2004, capital investment in the transport area on roads and public transport will be €1.6 billion, an increase of €1.3 billion, or 413%, over 1997. The Exchequer provision for capital investment in housing will be more than €1 billion, an increase of €766 million, or 275%, over 1997. This provision will be supplemented by more than €650 million of non-voted capital investment by the local authorities. Health capital investment in 2004 will be €509 million, an increase of €342 million, or 205%, over 1997. Capital investment in education will be €491 million, an increase of €327 million, or 199%, since 1997.

Addressing the country's infrastructural deficit is a key priority of the national development plan. Since 1997, particularly in the early years of the plan, the Government has deliberately increased and maintained annual Exchequer capital investment at historically high levels. Compared to an expenditure of 3.4% of GNP in 1997, capital expenditure has been maintained at around 5% of GNP in the past few years. This is twice the EU average. When public private partnership investment in public projects and the contribution of CIE resources to public transport investment are taken into account, total capital spending on this basis will be about €5.9 billion, an increase of more than €350 million, or 6%, on 2003. Subject to an overall sustainable budgetary environment, the Government is committed to maintaining public capital investment at similarly high levels in the medium term. This will mean more modest nominal levels of year-on-year increases than in the early years of the NDP. The Government is satisfied that this approach will yield sustained output at good value. Regrettably, as the ESRI confirmed in its recent evaluation, the large annual nominal increases in the early years of the NDP were considerably diluted by runaway construction industry inflation.

As regards value-for-money concerns arising from cost overruns and deficient management of infrastructure projects, the Department of Finance's capital appraisal guidelines for public sector capital projects are currently in the process of being revised. The Minister for Finance has also indicated in the Lower House that he is in favour, in principle, of a multi-annual system of financial envelopes for capital investment. This was recommended by the ESRI and would facilitate more efficient project and programme management by giving greater certainty about the availability of resources over a number of years. The Minister has stated that he intends to return to these issues on budget day.

The strategy underpinning the 2004 Estimates is the right one in the current economic circumstances and in the context of providing for future growth and development. It will enable us to build on the significantly expanded expenditure base of recent years while sustaining a healthy economy and public finances so that we can capitalise on the now expected international economic upturn. This policy of sound management of our economy and resources through times of unprecedented growth and in less favourable international circumstances means the Government, without recourse to excessive taxation or borrowing, can provide for public expenditure of more than €40 billion next year and, within that overall allocation, give priority to investment in the areas of health, education, social welfare and infrastructure.

I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Parlon, to the House. The chickens have come home to roost and the double-digit public spending spree of 2001 has caught up with the Government. An election was just around the corner in 2001 when a reckless Government lashed out public money as if there was no tomorrow. As the Minister of State said, public spending increased by a whopping 20.1% over the already inordinately high 2000 figure. People were fooled and bought the bonanza.

There was a tomorrow and it arrived with a vengeance with the publication of this Book of Estimates. An increase of more that 20% in 2001 has been reduced to only 5% in 2004. The Minister of State confirmed the galling reality that the bulk of this 5% increase will be gobbled up in non-productive wage increases for the public sector. This will account for approximately €1.1 billion of the overall €1.9 billion increase. It is a colossal amount. The already massive public pay bill is being pushed up by €540 million under the national programme. Benchmarking will cost €305 million and other pay increases to the public service will cost €265 million.

Fine Gael has taken a courageous but entirely correct position on the issue of benchmarking. We have said in clear and unequivocal terms that benchmarking should not be paid. We have stated that the cost is too high and with the sorry state of public finances, the whole exercise is too costly. Public servants have already been well looked after in the various partnership agreements, including the last one. We have rightly pointed out that in the absence of verifiable and tangible improvements in public services, the deal should be called off. A debate was held on this issue in the House during Private Members' business. In the debate, I called for the publication of the findings of the verification groups. We have not yet seen anything of the findings of any verification group, either in the shape of an interim or final report.

The reaction of the Government parties to the Fine Gael position on benchmarking has been particularly amusing. There were chuckles and taunts that Fine Gael had shot itself in the foot and by alienating 280,000 public servants, we were in effect committing political suicide. What the Government parties failed to realise was that for every person employed in the public service that will benefit – or think they will benefit – from benchmarking, there are five people employed in the private sector. Many of these people are working their fingers to the bone with no guaranteed income, let alone increases. These are the people who will contribute the bulk of the whopping benchmarking increases for those working in the public sector.

What the Government assumed and hoped was a political own goal has become politically and economically popular. Realising this, the Government, particularly the Taoiseach and the Minister for Finance, has in recent days strained at the bit to emphasise the requirement that without public service improvements and increases in productivity, benchmarking will not be paid. It will be extremely interesting to see how this extravagant saga plays out. I doubt and remain sceptical that many of the so-called commensurate increases and improvements in public service and productivity will be delivered in return for what is a whopping give away.

The Government may have bought power in a ruthless and reckless spending binge in the run up to the general election. As a result, the Minister of State and his senior colleague will be comfortably ensconced in their offices on Merrion Street for at least another few years.

That is right.

One political certainty is that the Government will pay a high political price in the local and European elections next June.

Hear, hear.

The Senator wishes.

In the Estimates, the Government has targeted cuts at some of the most vulnerable sectors of society. The Minister of State was not a Member of the Oireachtas when another famous slogan won a general election for Fianna Fáil. I can clearly remember the poster with Charles J. Haughey beckoning in the direction of the slogan, "health cuts hit the old, the sick and the handicapped". The Minister of State and his colleagues in Government have certainly hit the old, the sick and the handicapped. Hospital and accident and emergency charges have been increased by €5 to €45. This is an increase of 12.5% at a time when inflation is predicted to run at between 2% and 3%. Nightly in-patient bed charges similarly have been increased by 12.5% from €40 to €45. The drug refund threshold has been increased by 11.4% from €70 to €78. Imagine the impact this will have on the many low income families in this State. I think of people with asthma, diabetes, rheumatism or other medical problems who are a tantalisingly €1 over the rather modest threshold for qualifying for a medical card and now have this foisted upon them.

Motor tax has also been increased even for the most modest of cars. There will be an increase from €278 to €292 for a 1.4 litre car. In many cases we are talking about young people paying off a loan on a second-hand car to carry them to and from their first job. Young people are being ripped off by high annual premiums from highly profitable insurance companies. In some cases that annual premium is higher than the value of the car. Drivers are already paying high motor tax rates and will now have to pay an additional 6% increase.

I was a member of the Government that abolished third level fees. This imaginative measure was introduced by the then Minister for Education, Niamh Bhreathnach, and was broadly welcomed. For the first time, it gave some relief to the many middle income PAYE taxpayers whose student children did not live within a commutable distance from third level institutions. At that time they were being screwed on all sides and were saddled with both huge fees and maintenance costs. We have witnessed the introduction of fees by the back door – it was the first of the ritual stealth taxes. A registration fee was imposed for each student entering third level colleges. A seemingly modest tax – that is what it was – when it was introduced was increased to €670 last year. For the coming college year, another €80 is to be lumped on, bringing it to €750. This is a registration fee and must be paid even before one thinks of maintenance or other costs. Fees have come back with a vengeance and so former Minister Niamh Bhreathnach's dream of a fair deal for the hard-pressed PAYE taxpayer trying to put two or three kids simultaneously through college has been set at nought.

Exam fees for the junior and leaving certificates are up from €72 to €82, a 14% increase. This from the party of the late Donogh O'Malley, the man who pioneered the concept of free education. Free education is a thing of the past. Inflation is running at 2% or 3% and yet ten-year passports have increased from €57 to €75 in one fell swoop, a 30% increase. Multiple entry visas have doubled, a 100% increase from €50 to €100. How can the Minister of State justify increasing something by 100% at a time when inflation is predicted – he probably boasts about this – at 2% to 3%? The Minister for Finance, Deputy McCreevy, who should be here today, once served as Minister for Social Welfare. I recall sitting across from him in the Dáil when he announced the infamous "dirty dozen" cuts. Nobody thought that initiative could be superseded, but it has been. In this Book of Estimates, there is a cut of €458 million by way of so-called savings, amounting to 16 cuts across the board.

Lone parents will lose up to €200 per week because of cuts in their rent allowance and the payment for one-parent families. Lone parents returning to work will no longer receive half of the one-parent family payment. That is a cut of at least €141 per week. Low income couples are also hit. The partner or spouse of someone in full-time employment will no longer be able to claim rent allowance. Those returning to education through the commendable back to education scheme will be hit by the increase from six to 15 months in the length of time one must spend on social welfare before receiving the weekly allowance of €124.80. That means the back to education scheme has basically been dismantled.

Health boards can refuse rent allowance to anyone not already renting for six months, unless he or she is homeless. This is guaranteed to make people homeless. Where are people supposed to get the rent for six months when they are in private rented accommodation and getting no subsidy whatsoever? This will throw more people on to the streets. The crèche supplement, covering the cost of emergency child care, has been scrapped. The diet supplement for people with special dietary needs is to be phased out over a period of time. Entitlement to the half-rate of unemployment and disability benefit is to be scrapped where a claimant's spouse or partner has gross income in excess of €300. The earnings threshold for the payment of reduced rates of disability and unemployment benefit is to be increased from €88 to €150. Underlying insurance contributions will require an increase from 39 to 52 weeks for a person to qualify for disability or unemployment benefit and health and safety benefits. The maximum duration of unemployment benefit is to be reduced from 390 to 312 days where a person has less than 260 PRSI contributions. This is the most inhuman and regressive set of cuts ever announced by a Government and has occurred a mere few days before the Society of St. Vincent de Paul at its Christmas launch, at which the Taoiseach was asked to preside, indicated that there are 300,000 households in which children and families are living on less than €170 per week.

What we have here is a Government determined to perpetuate the two-tier society. Is it not incongruous, wrong, immoral and inhuman that in the week this is announced, the ongoing saga between the manager of Manchester United and Coolmore Stud over ownership of the Rock of Gibraltar racehorse is in the news? The horse will gain €10 million in stud fees without a single penny being paid in taxation. I am in favour of supporting the bloodstock industry, but I do not believe that taxing it would do any damage whatsoever. If the quality is good enough, then the bloodstock industry will continue to thrive.

Local authorities are to be saddled with a bill of €42 million by way of a shortfall to pay for the extravagant benchmarking awards. In County Mayo, if a young couple wants to build a house, it buys a site and applies for planning permission. However, before a sod is turned on the site, the couple will have to pay more than €10,000 by way of a so-called development levy.

It is not applied yet.

Extravagant figures are being agreed county by country and this is from a Government that abolished the first-time buyer's grant of £3,000 or €3,700 last year. I am looking at the figures, for example, on capital expenditure. That is where the money should be going, into capital expenditure, into transport, into infrastructure, into developing the nuts and bolts of the economy to attract investment and keep the wheels of industry moving. Capital expenditure is painfully inadequate in this set of Estimates.

I am at a loss to know why the Minister of State's colleague, the Minister for Finance, voted for the Stability and Growth Pact exemption for the two largest countries in the EU. Quite obviously there is some covert agenda. It is obvious the Minister for Finance sees that if they can get an exemption, so can he. However, this is wrong because once one begins to breach the rules, the rule book goes out the window. The pact was a central cog as regards keeping the European economy on side.

The Minister of State came into this House on 3 May 2003 to debate decentralisation. We received all the grand assurances – decentralisation was going ahead and it was a great concept, involving 10,000 jobs etc. I have gone through the data. I do not see a single line by way of a provision for decentralisation. It is obvious that the Government sees this as a political hot potato. There are 10,000 jobs in prospect, but 134 towns have already made submissions and are vying for inclusion but, politically, this issue is a loser. It was supposed to be introduced in 2001 but the general election was imminent. It was supposed to come in this year but will not because two more elections are imminent. It is obvious that decentralisation has been deferred and will be long-fingered forever.

The Minister of State has clung to the old excuse and cited international factors. I listened on the radio yesterday to the current situation in the United States. The 11 September 2001 debacle carried us along for two or three years. Now international factors are to blame. However, the American economy, the main victim of 11 September, grew by 8% in the last quarter, the biggest increase in more than 65 years. We are paying the price of the squander-mania of 2001. It was a dear price, but hopefully the electorate will see it on D-day, which is not far away.

I welcome the Minister of State and his officials to the House. As he correctly pointed out in the first line of his speech, these are the pre-budget Estimates. Obviously they will be followed by post-budget Estimates and a revised Book of Estimates at a further stage. In some areas, this most obviously applies to social welfare. The full picture is not given, so judgment must be suspended to a degree.

I welcome the provisional Book of Estimates, which is designed to give us and sustain a strong economy. If one looks at the basics, we have a strong economy. We are two years into an international downturn and hopefully can see signs of an upturn. Unemployment at 4.5%, which was historic even in good times, is extraordinary in conditions of international downturn. We have a sound financial position, with debt remaining low. In short, we will be in a strong position going into any upturn and these factors will help to sustain this.

We have had extraordinary increases in public expenditure since 1997. The Minister quoted some statistics for both current and capital spending. Would those resources have been available if we had followed any other economic policy? I do not believe there is any other way we could have achieved such extraordinary increases in public expenditure.

Senator Higgins spoke about pre-election splurges. I again draw his attention to the IMF and OECD studies of the Irish economy, which were referred to in a previous economic debate in April and August this year. They took the view that, coming into the downturn, the increase in public expenditure and in public service staffing was good. It helped achieve a soft landing for the economy. They equally took the view that we were correct to pull in the reins in 2003 and 2004. However it has been done and whatever the motive was, we have achieved a soft landing for the economy and can look forward to the future. I do not accept the criticisms of economic policy. The lag in adjustment from the end of the Celtic tiger economy, which was probably the second quarter of 2001, and pulling the reins tighter on public spending was economically beneficial.

A great deal has been said about benchmarking. Members of the House have heard totally misleading figures to the effect that €1.1 billion was being spent on it. The attitude was that it would have been much more beneficial if that money had been spent on X, Y and Z. When he produced the Estimates the Minister pointed out that the cost is €305 million, which is 2% of the public service pay bill. Using words such as "huge", "horrendous" and so forth is frankly ridiculous. The year 2002 was the best year for industrial peace for over 30 years so there already has been some payback. Compared with the old system of relativities, benchmarking is clearly superior.

It is obvious that the Government is making demands of public sector workers. Adjustments are being made in many areas of the public sector and people work hard. Caricatures are offered about the contrast between the private and public sectors. Many people in the public sector work hard and productively and they deserve to be remunerated properly. If one takes the last few years together, they are not being paid disproportionately to the private sector. They provide services to the private sector.

Senator Higgins is correct to point out that the stance of the Fine Gael Party is courageous. It is courageous in the "Yes Minister" meaning of the term. That party has ambitions to form an alternative Government, presumably with the Labour Party. The Labour Party Members can speak for themselves but I do not believe any Government will be formed on the basis of unilateral repudiation of clear Government commitments. One can argue that the Government should never have entered into such commitments but it is a more serious matter to urge the Government to repudiate them. I do not believe Fine Gael would do that. As I pointed out to the Fine Gael Leader on the "Questions and Answers" television programme, the then leader, Deputy John Bruton's, attitude to social partnership led him to oppose the 1994 agreement but that opposition melted like snow under sun the moment he got into Government. No responsible Government can repudiate commitments. All this is shadow boxing and a way for the Senator to get back at his party's rivals, represented at this debate by the Minister of State, Deputy Parlon. However, I will leave politics aside.

I am satisfied with the continuing high level of spending on infrastructure. We are spending about 5% more of GNP on infrastructure than our European neighbours. We need to do that. There might be a marginal adjustment in infrastructural spending in the budget but I am not convinced that we should break our necks to do it. If one tries to do too much too quickly, it simply increases the cost and causes inflation. One does not get a proper bang for one's buck.

Sometimes the Opposition Senators query statements by the Taoiseach that he is a socialist.

Senator White does.

Socialism has a number of characteristics. The social partnership model is fully within the social democratic philosophy. Another characteristic is a high level of public investment. Fianna Fáil has been good on that front over the past few years. That subject was not given any importance by the rainbow Government as it approached the election in 1997.

The Government has a good record on social welfare. In fact, it was re-elected partly on the basis of the large child benefit increases. In all fairness, however, it should be pointed out that Proinsias De Rossa, as Minister for Social Welfare, gave substantial increases in that area too. That policy stretched across two Governments. The Government's re-election was also due to what was done for old age pensioners, which was unique to this Government. Another factor was the fulfilment, over a period of years, of the recommendations of the commission on social welfare. Members will remember the then Minister, former Deputy Gemma Hussey, saying a number of years ago that the country simply could not afford it.

Any Minister with responsibility for social welfare must have the freedom to review schemes and priorities in the context of the positive budgetary plans they have. Some of the reductions that have been mentioned will have to be judged in that light. The detailed press release by the Minister, Deputy Coughlan, on the social welfare changes offers a rationale for each of the changes. One cannot describe them in quite such stark terms as have been used recently and there is no real comparison with the situation in 1992. The diet supplement is being phased out and, with regard to the rent supplement, there are provisions for exceptions for people who are homeless or where there are other compelling reasons. These changes and their impact appear to have been thought through but many organisations will make representations in the month or two before the Social Welfare Bill is introduced, so there could be adjustments to minimise any hardship. One cannot judge the impact until one knows what will be in the budget for social welfare.

I welcome the increase for primary school buildings in the Estimates. I wish it was more but it is almost €30 million extra and it is much needed. There has been some controversy about third level education. The resources are going into increased maintenance grants, which the Minister negotiated last year, and the restoration of science research funding. However, a problem remains in the current expenditure needs of colleges and that might need to be examined further. I welcome the confirmation that free fees were intended for the benefit of the middle income group. Listening to the Labour Party, one would not always have received that impression. There is a substantial difference between this and what Donogh O'Malley did. His was a genuine attempt to achieve equality of educational opportunity, not just for the benefit of the middle class.

I welcome the agriculture Estimate, which I am sure is of personal interest to the Minister of State. There is substantial extra funding for the very worthwhile REP scheme, which I welcome. I also welcome forestry back under the aegis of the Department of Agriculture and Food because there is far more synergy there. I hope it means we will get away from a "stop, go" situation.

I am pleased the Estimates incorporate at least the maintenance of community employment schemes at current levels. There were reports in the media that funding for community employment schemes would be slashed even further. These are important schemes, particularly for the older age groups. They also provide an indispensable service, particularly in many provincial towns.

I welcome the restoration of funding for the arts. Facilities are now spread throughout the country. I am pleased there has been an increase in the overseas development assistance budget. I understand it will remain at approximately 0.41% of GNP. I had hoped we would be able to move further in this regard, but at least we are not going backwards. The Taoiseach reiterated in recent months that we made a solemn commitment, particularly in the context of seeking UN Security Council membership, to increase our ODA budget to 0.7% of GNP by 2007. I hope this will be taken seriously by the Government because it pertains to our honour and contribution in the world.

Like Senator Higgins, I would like to see in the Budget Statement some kind of road map on decentralisation, which is a worthwhile objective that will require political courage. Its exact timing may be another matter. I would like to see at least the first phase implemented well before the next general election. It is a good idea in principle from which we should not draw back, because inevitably some people will be disappointed.

I want to refer briefly to yesterday's meeting of Finance Ministers. I made this point twice already today, once during Mr. McCartin's visit here and again when members of the Economic and Social Committee of the European Parliament appeared before the Committee on Finance and the Public Service. The public coverage of the meeting misses an important point. It indicates that the big countries are getting away with something with which small countries would not be allowed to get away. I am speculating here because I have no inside knowledge. I think there is another issue at stake here, which is the degree of control the European Commission should have over national budgetary policy. The Government is remarkably close to the French and German Governments on this issue, which is that basically within very broad parameters national budgets are a matter for national governments and not for close supervision.

This is a sort of power struggle. Naturally, the EU Commission wants to centralise issues as much as possible but most member states want to resist this. There is no evidence that either the French or Germans want to kick over the traces. They want to get their economies in better order and reform them as soon as possible. In the very short term – one is talking about the very short term when one speaks of budgets for one or two years – growth and stability are not always totally compatible objectives. Their argument is that if they go for growth first, they will get stability afterwards. I would not like to see this feed into a paranoia about big countries versus small countries. It was a pragmatic decision and I suspect we went along with it for the reasons I have stated. Of course, one must take care it does not have a negative effect on confidence and, therefore, on interest rates and the costs we all must pay.

I conclude by welcoming the Estimates as the first stone in the arch of the budgetary process, which I consider a good start.

I wish to share my time with Senator Norris.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

I should begin by responding to Senator Mansergh's comments. While I agree with much of what he said, I wish to put on the record that I found it very unconvincing when he said that the Minister and the Government decided to take the stance they did on the issue of the Stability and Growth Pact because it was a pragmatic decision. I am always suspicious of people who talk about pragmatic decisions. When I do it myself, I feel I do so without conviction. When one says one is being pragmatic, one is effectively saying one is throwing all one's principles to the wind for reasons which are purely and utterly practical, opportunist and not admirable or long term.

I gave a more thorough explanation.

The Senator is correct in that it was a pragmatic decision, but I believe it was the wrong one. It appears very straightforward. These countries were in breach of the pact. One cannot just tear it up if it does not suit at any stage in one's political programme. There were two reasons for this. The first is probably that Ireland will soon assume the European Presidency and the Minister, for all his bottle in the past, was not prepared or was under instructions not to offend the large countries. It would be very difficult if we took over the Presidency while at war with the French and Germans. It would be embarrassing and it would not suit the political cosmetics and choreography if they came here and were not great friends of ours. I suspect a deal was done under the counter about which we know nothing and perhaps there will be a political pay-off for someone in the future. It was an extraordinary decision for the Government, which was censured for a similar offence, that it did not take advantage of its position and kick the Germans and French in the teeth because they need it. These guys are the political bullies of Europe.

These are the people Ireland should stand up against when it gets the opportunity. I regret we did not stand up to them when they were in blatant breach of a pact which they initiated, particularly the Germans. As the euphemism goes, this issue will be revisited and, I hope, re-examined. I hope we will discover the real reason the Government took this position, but for the moment it is inexplicable, despite Senator Mansergh's laudable attempts to give an unconvincing explanation. I agree with much of what he said in his contribution. The Irish economy has come through a very difficult period with some credit to the Government. It has not been particularly easy to ride out this recession. Undoubtedly, there have been problems and we have spent too much money in recent years. However, the figures as quoted by the Minister of State and Senator Mansergh are pretty good.

It is a tough time to be in Opposition. Our growth rate exceeds that of all other EU member states, inflation is coming down, unemployment is down and nearly all the figures which are thrown at us by the Department of Finance at regular intervals are particularly healthy, a fact we should acknowledge. Whether that is by luck or by good management is a matter which will be debated here for many years. On the whole, apart from the spending issue, the Government has managed the economy reasonably well in what was a difficult period. Gross spending is expected to increase by 7% or 8% this year on last year. That is too much but it is a great improvement on last year. It is to the Minister's credit that he has been able to persuade his colleagues to bring down gross spending during a difficult period. It is notably difficult when one goes on a spending binge, as the Government did in recent years, to curtail spending and the rate of growth. The Minister for Finance, Deputy McCreevy, appears to have been able to do this despite benchmarking, which has given rise to so much debate throughout the nation and in this House.

I wish to record my full support for Senator Higgins's comments about benchmarking. It is not an easy furrow for him to plough because the Fine Gael position on benchmarking will offend a large number of strong political lobbies and yet it decided to take that risk. I have already seen, as has everybody else, the spinning from the Minister for Finance and the Taoiseach who say that benchmarking will not be automatic. They are picking out one or two little groups and saying they will not pay them because they are not doing enough work. That is what they did last weekend. They were spinning the Sunday newspapers as if there was no tomorrow. They did not say that about the nurses, teachers or the Garda Síochána but they will say it about small groups. This will enable them to say benchmarking was not automatic. They will say they stood up to five people here, half a dozen in Mayo, six in Sligo and a couple in Cork while the big battalions will pour in through the gap which was created. It will happen this weekend. None of the big ones will be picked off. There will be token battles with powerless groups which will be abandoned by the large trade unions by this time next week and brought back into line. That will be the end of the story and yet the Government will portray this as some sort of victory in the enforcement of benchmarking. Unfortunately, that is the way Government works here.

I was not impressed by some of what the Minister of State's comments on benchmarking. I do not believe for one moment that leading members of the Government believe in benchmarking as an effective way of insisting upon public service efficiencies, nor do they believe this award is merited from top to bottom by every public servant, because everybody knows it is not, in addition to which we cannot afford it.

We get into meaningless language when Ministers' scripts are written by public servants who benefit from benchmarking. The Minister of State stated: "Benchmarking accounts for just over one quarter of the expected increase in the pay bill." Presumably, this is true. However, just over one quarter is a large amount. Senator Mansergh said it is a small amount but to me €300 million is a large amount. One can do a great deal with €300 million. Estimates debates are usually shopping lists for Senators and Deputies. If that €300 million were saved, I presume many of the worthy demands of Members could be paid for. I do not believe the Minister for Finance, Deputy McCreevy, the Minister of State, Deputy Parlon or his party leader believe in benchmarking but they believe it is not worth the candle to do anything about it.

The truth of the matter is that Senators and Deputies hold little power. Members of the Cabinet hold a lot of power but there is no doubt that the most powerful group comprises the public service unions. No Minister stands up to this particular group. I welcome the fact that Fine Gael – I hope this would also be the case if the party were to get into Government – will stand up to this group because one of the problems in Ireland is that the public service unions are increasing the rate of tax for the rest of us. The fact is that the €300 million benchmarking award or as I maintain a great deal more, but I risk further interruption from Senator Mansergh if I say so, including pensions will be raised in taxes. There is no other way of raising this unless the Government wants to borrow for current purposes which it does not.

From taxes.

I risked interruption and it was fulfilled as usual. What I regret about the speech on both sides of the House, which is indicative of what is happening in Irish politics, is as follows. The Minister for Finance, Deputy McCreevy, has been a great Minister for Finance. He has served seven years as Minister and has transformed the Irish economy, certainly the taxation system, with the assistance of the Progressive Democrats and others. He has reduced capital gains tax from 40% to 20% which was revolutionary, radical and welcome, income tax from the top rate of 48% to 42%, income tax at the standard rate of 27% to 20%, corporate taxes to 12.5% and for that he must be given immense credit. Undoubtedly, if he had said at the beginning of his term that he would do all this, there would have been rumblings within the Government benches at that prospect. The result of his actions has been electric, both devastating and positive for our economy. We would not have had the extent of the boom we have experienced had taxes not been reduced.

Capital taxation reductions have resulted in capital revenue increasing and income tax reductions have contributed to the economic boom. All those great measures having been taken, why has it stopped here? For some reason, everything has gone into freeze during the past two or three years. The tax reduction programme has finished. The Minister appears to be paralysed. It is clear from the debate here that the issue of direct taxation rates, income tax rates, capital gains tax rates and corporate tax rates is dead. Nobody is saying anything about it. It may be, and I look forward to Senator McDowell's speech, that the Labour Party wants to raise these taxes. I do not know the answer to that question.

However, I would have liked the Minister of State to have had the courage to say today that he wants to lower these taxes further. What is wrong with that? The top rate of tax is now frozen in a band somewhere between 42% and 45% and it is apparently unacceptable to move beyond these parameters. It is unacceptable to decrease the rate below 42% because public service sector unions are saying they will go no further. This is not in writing, but it is the deal. It means we are seeing the end of a great crusade of reduction in taxation. Reductions in all these taxes could have been achieved if benchmarking had been suspended. The public servants, who were to benefit from it, would have had the benefit of the tax reductions themselves, in which case they would have nothing about which to bellyache.

However, the Minister has stopped this programme apparently because outside forces, rather than inside forces, have agreed to it. I would like Members of the Opposition to speak out about this matter. It is difficult for Fine Gael to advocate a reduction in taxes because it has the Labour Party on its back and when one has a monkey like that on one's back, it is very difficult to escape from it. However, it would be refreshing if Opposition Members advocated a reduction in tax. There is nothing immoral about it. It might create more revenue in the form of capital gains tax.

I would like the Minister of State to address in his response the issue of the bank levy. I thoroughly approve of the levy for two reasons. First, it is punitive. The banks, given their behaviour in respect of DIRT and because of their immense profits, merit it. It has made no difference whatsoever to their profits, regardless of what they say. Will this levy be continued or is the bank lobby now so strong that it has got to the Minister again, such that it will be lifted in the coming year?

My second reason for approving of the levy is because DIRT has penalised small savers for a very long time. Mortgagees and borrowers have benefited enormously from tax reliefs and low interest rates but those who have savings, particularly small savings, are being deprived of them every year because the rate of interest they are getting is obviously below that of inflation. It would be of enormous benefit to these people, particularly the elderly, if the Minister considered abolishing DIRT. They should not be penalised for saving, which is, after all, a great backbone and aid to the economy.

Do I have ten, seven, six, five, four, three, two or one minutes remaining?

An Leas-Chathaoirleach

Not as much as the Senator had hoped.

Is it ten minutes, or seven? I am on flexi-time.

I thank my friend and colleague Senator Ross for generously allowing me some of his time. I echo what he said about the stability pact. It was a political decision in one respect, but it was a very bad one. If one looks back to the time when Ireland was an applicant to various aspects of the European project, Germany was the country that was toffee-nosed about it. It was not at all sure that we would be able to meet the criteria. It had a strong deutschmark and we all had to live up to its standards. Now, apparently, it can break the pact with impunity because it is a strong country. This is causing real worry for those with mortgages in Ireland, for whom I have great sympathy. I have been able to pay off my mortgage – this is a luxury – and am glad to say I am not in their position. Those who have bought houses with low rates of interest on their mortgages, particularly young people, will be in very serious trouble. The economy could also be in trouble if we have negative equity and the value of houses drops.

I am very glad my distinguished colleague Senator Mansergh encouraged the Government to continue progress towards increasing our ODA budget to 0.7% of GNP by 2007. I hope his voice will be listened to in that regard. I will not discuss the matter at any length because we will be discussing it this evening. I will reserve my comments for that debate.

Only the Minister, rather than this House, could adopt a proposal I made on the CAB legislation. I tabled amendments to try to secure the money that was taken from the drugs barons and target it directly at the very poor communities in the inner cities which have been bled of money and young life. The money should go directly back to those from whom it came because they are the ones who paid. My proposal was not accepted because it imposed a charge upon the Exchequer and the Seanad is not trusted with the national purse strings. Nevertheless, it is a good proposal.

In recent weeks I have noticed a wonderful playground at the top of Gardiner Street which is thronged with young people and their parents. This is the kind of development we need. If one wants to solve the crime problem in our inner cities, or go some way towards doing so, we should invest in education, including programmes such as Breaking the Cycle. It is cruel to give young people a glimpse of the promised land and dump them just when they are coming to the end of their primary education. I have stated before – I will reiterate this until I am successful – that programmes should be continued through second level and university because the role models for the young children are the drug tsars and crack cocaine bosses who drive around in large cars with their admiring attendants. This perception will be broken the first time a vet, lawyer or doctor from the same background as these young people, and who has come through the same system, drives back into his neighbourhood in his nice car, thus showing that one can have a good life and also contribute to society.

Let me consider car tax, at the risk of appearing selfish. I do not normally read the motoring supplement of The Irish Times but I read it today and noted that vehicle registration tax is being increased further. I have a very flash car, a Jaguar XJ6. It is 12 years old and I got it for €5,000, yet I am paying €2,000 in tax. This is absolutely bizarre and insane. There should be a diminution in motor tax on cars as they get older, thus benefiting poor people like myself who like large cars. However, there are much more important issues, such as the cuts in respect of child care.

I am not normally a knocker or begrudger but my outlook changes when I consider champagne Charlie and the Punchestown syndrome in light of the removal of support for people with children in crèches. There were parents on the radio this morning who pay €63.50 per week for crèche services, but they probably will not be able to afford this after the cuts. This is shameful.

The disabled are vulnerable and the amounts of money required to address their needs are comparatively small. For goodness' sake, let us look after them. It is in our long-term interest to do so, certainly in terms of our honour and the moral welfare of the country. The Combat Poverty Agency acknowledges that households headed by a person with a disability are disproportionately hit in terms of poverty levels. Of all households headed by a disabled person, 54.4% are living at or below the 60% poverty line according to the ESRI report of 2002. This is a reproach to society. We should accept what various groups are saying, namely, that we should examine the cost of a disability payments scheme so the disabled will have assistance in terms of equipment, travel, home appliances, etc. I am happy with this suggestion and it should be acted upon.

I strongly believe that a disability payment should and could be initiated in the budget. In addition, the report of the interdepartmental working group on the cost of such a payment should be published. This group is dispassionate, clear and clinical. We could then see the situation and act on it politically. The disability allowance should be brought into line with the contributory old age pension.

An Leas-Chathaoirleach

The Senator has one minute left.

I have a copy of the Irish Senior Citizens Parliament pre-budget submission which raises the issue of the 35,000 carers who provide more than 50 hours a week but receive nothing. There is a means test for them which is incredibly mean – it is a mean test. People devote their lives to looking after elderly relatives but if they dumped them on the State it would cost dear. Why not be flexible and generous? The submission acknowledges the great benefit gained by the grant of €500,000 towards the cost of travel for rural elderly from the Department of Social and Family Affairs. That is an imaginative grant. Mr. Charles Haughey is often excoriated but one thing for which he is remembered North and South is the introduction of free travel for the elderly.

Hear, hear.

We ought to go in that direction, with a bit of imagination and decency. I was rather amused by one who talked about the "young disabled" whose definition of "young" went straight to my heart because it is from 18 to 65 years. I have another five years of youth stretching in front of me. That is wonderful and for that reason alone I would enter a plea on behalf of this group.

The Senator is Stephen Dedalus himself.

The matter of the homeless needs to be addressed because, for example, of the changes in the housing income support under the SWA rent supplement scheme. There are 60,000 people who rely on this and they are the most vulnerable people in our society. Requiring them to be in accommodation for six months before they can get a grant is a catch-22. How can they get into accommodation? I do not understand that, it is bizarre. There are some increases and I see the Minister of State just getting ready to tell me so. There is a 3% increase but it was cut by 5% last year. Even I who am almost totally innumerate can see that they are still being disadvantaged. We will have greater opportunity to debate these issues when the budget proposals are framed.

We need to bear in mind as a principle that the Government should not only encourage the wealthy in this idea that they will create jobs and so on, but must also provide a net for the most vulnerable. It should continue with projects such as developing the playground in Gardiner Street. That will do more good than we can possibly imagine, and I urge the Minister of State to try to keep the Breaking the Cycle scheme up to third level. He has no idea of the change that will make in our inner cities.

I hope Senator Norris will be able to continue to enjoy the luxury of his Jaguar at no great expense. I welcome the Minister of State to the House and thank him for his contribution to the debate. There is no denying that over the past 12 months we faced a challenging economic situation. The major international economies performed poorly, the American boom slowed markedly despite comments last evening that showed a sharp increase there in the last two months. The German economy, the largest in the eurozone, is almost stagnant. International confidence has been low and the whole climate of uncertainty was exacerbated over the last 12 months by the conflict in Iraq. The impact here was quite clear. The pace of economic growth moderated, tax revenues were less buoyant and the scope for increased public spending was further limited. The challenge facing the Government is to guide the country successfully through this difficult period and to ensure that Ireland is well placed to take advantage of the international uplift when it comes, as today's OECD report highlighted.

My party has played a key role in the formulation of Irish economic policy since returning to Government in 1997. Our policies have worked and nobody denies that. We have moved this country from mass unemployment to full employment. We have virtually eliminated long-term unemployment and we have ended the curse of emigration, which was such a blight for so many years. I will offer some suggestions as to what our economic priorities should be over the next four years. The first requirement is to secure and preserve the prosperity which we have now achieved. It took us a long time to get the monkey of unemployment off our back and it would be a tragedy if we allowed it to return. We have a pro-employment tax system. It took significant effort on our part and on the part of the people to put it there. Our key objective now must be to keep it there. The temptation to raise personal taxes is always present, particularly at a time of slowdown in our economic growth, but it must be resisted. Full employment was a prize worth fighting for and it is worth defending. If we want to do that we must keep taxes down. The low-tax formula works so let us stick with it.

It is imperative that the Government invests in the economy, especially the key infrastructural projects which are essential if we want to keep moving and remain competitive internationally. Dublin and Cork are the two major cities and economic centres and yet, eight decades after independence we do not have a proper road running between the two of them. We are quite literally kilometres behind the rest of the European Union in terms of transport infrastructure. We are beginning to make progress. Record sums of money are going into the National Roads Authority which is responding to the challenge. The next three years will see a transformation of our national road system. The motorway link from Dublin to Dundalk has been completed. The Kilcock-Kinnegad motorway project, a vital part of in the Dublin-Galway link, will be open in three years and with the completion of the Kildare and Monasterevin bypass projects we will have a continuous stretch of motorway and dual carriageway between Dublin and Portlaoise by early 2006. These will be impressive achievements. They will bring badly needed relief to road users around the country and improve the quality of life significantly in the towns which are being bypassed. We must keep the pace of investment going. We need to keep moving on the national roads programme if we are going to provide this country with the kind of infrastructure and transport system which it needs.

We need public investment in other areas as well. Our hospitals, education and railway systems need investment. This involves money which is scarce in the current economic situation but long-term investment should not fall foul of short-time pressures. The Progressive Democrats have always been in favour of prudent borrowing to fund capital spending. It would be very foolish to cut back on investment now and then find that when economic buoyancy returns we have congestion and public facilities which are even worse than before. The rules laid down in the Stability and Growth Pact set limits on the amount we can borrow in any given year. It is a pity that those rules do not distinguish between capital and current spending. We all recognise the need to keep current spending under control and to live within our means, as we are doing.

Our public finances are still in an extremely healthy position. We are still running substantial surpluses on the current account. We do not have a fiscal crisis or anything approaching it. We have the lowest government debt ratio of any country in the eurozone but because of the way in which the Stability and Growth Pact works we are constrained in our ability to spend on essential infrastructure, which is needed if we are to achieve our full economic potential. I doubt that the architects of monetary union had this in mind when they framed the pact. By all means let us have stability but let us have growth as well. The Government has a strong vested interest in modifying the pact. In light of yesterday's decision not to censure Germany and France for breaching the terms of the pact, the time is right to have the Stability and Growth Pact revisited to take cognisance of low debt countries with severe infrastructural deficits.

I appeal to the Minister of State to address the ongoing issue of the Cork School of Music, which is being delayed as a result of the terms of this pact. Every time I raised this matter in the House, the main reason given to me for the delay was the restraint placed on us by the pact. This argument is somewhat flawed, if not completely obsolete in light of yesterday's occurrences. I ask the Minister of State to end this ongoing issue, a very serious one for Cork as the school of music is likely to be the linchpin for the city's status as European capital of culture in 2005. This is a pilot project. Not only will Cork face embarrassment but so too will the country if the issue is not immediately addressed.

Prudent borrowing for public investment makes eminent sense. It smoothes the economic cycle and helps to avoid boom-bust economics. This is what the Irish economy requires right now. Naturally we need to get value for money in return for public investment. We must take a serious look at the systems and institutions in place for managing infrastructural investment in particular. Are they effective, are they efficient and how do they compare with their European counterparts? Do they need to be overhauled? The Government must ask itself these questions and provide proper answers.

I welcome the publication of the Estimates and the provision for more than €40 billion in public spending next year. That is well over €10,000 for every man, woman and child. The €40 billion is provided by the hard work of the Irish people. The Government's first job is to manage the public money and invest it wisely on behalf of the people. That means delivering the public services they expect, getting value for public money and spending it within a sustainable social and economic strategy.

With these Estimates, the Government has set priorities within limited and precious public resources. At 5% growth pre-budget, public spending is being increased at a moderate rate that will not put a strain on jobs and the economy. Steady progress is being maintained within the limits for our economy, with no exaggerated spending or exaggerated curtailment in spending.

To grow public spending in line with our economic ability to pay puts the focus on the policies to achieve our economic potential. The Government has shown in recent years that economic performance is the engine of social justice, public resources and sustainable public services.

I note in the Estimates that the Government has prioritised investment in our social and economic future in the areas of health, education and infrastructure. Regarding comments by previous speakers on crèches, child care has become a major issue in Ireland. It is time to examine carefully how we fund child care projects, and to look at the under-utilisation of the resources we have, such as our schools system. Rather than continuing the policy of funding garage conversions in order that people can run small crèches, I am much more interested in utilising the structures already in place, such as our school system. In other countries I have seen where parents' associations can take over the school infrastructure after normal school hours, provide crèche facilities to incorporate play areas, study areas and so on, and keep those schools functioning until 7 p.m. I do not see why the money we are investing in crèches should not be directed towards that area, and such developments encouraged. It is not acceptable to fund garage conversions when we already have an infrastructure which could be properly utilised.

I welcome the commitment of the €340 million investment in research and development across Science Foundation Ireland, health research and Teagasc, as this will deliver long-term rewards. Next year, €10 billion will be spent on health. Health spending is up 43% in the three years since 2001, the most recent year for OECD statistics. No other European country has increased health spending at this rate. In France, for example, the government indicated that health spending increases in 2001 and 2002 of 4% at constant prices were "particularly steep".

The Government is making the investment; it has brought forward the reform package and now is the time for action and results. I hope the Government is totally determined to implement the health reform that will put patients first. This will be done step by step, beginning now and continuing over the coming years, backed by sustained political will. Those who express opposition to these proposals based on their own vested interests and short-term gain do not have people's long-term interests at heart. Credible opposition should be expressed with credible alternatives but to date I have seen none.

Regarding the hotels and holiday homes scheme, a deadline was put in place in last year's budget for completion of these schemes. The criteria were that planning permission had to be lodged by 31 May 2003, the application validated, and construction completed by December 2004. The first deadline has passed and there is therefore a finite number of schemes that can be completed. However, the second deadline is producing a potential logjam both from the construction point of view and the hotel operational point of view. To get schemes completed on time, considerable resources will have to be employed. If the deadline were extended by six months, for example, it would take the pressure off everyone – developer, builder, hotelier, operator etc. As there is a finite number of schemes because of the deadline of 31 May 2003, there should be no loss to the Exchequer in bringing this about. I ask the Minister to consider these issues and address them in the budget rather than in the Finance Bill, because I fear that people building these schemes are entering into aggressive contracts now in order to be finished on time. Such contracts are in no one's interests.

The deadline for completion of section 50 schemes was also advanced in the last budget from December 2005 to December 2004. This has created a practical problem. Student years run from September to September and there is no point in having a unit finished in December when it will not be let until the following September. Given that this accommodation can only be used for student lettings, I respectfully suggest that this deadline be changed to September 2005 to correspond with the academic year.

I join previous speakers in welcoming the ringfencing of overseas development aid and the commitment of the Government in this regard. As previous speakers said, this will be debated later in the House and I will comment further at that stage. As for carers, we cannot underestimate their value to society. With our demographics indicating a major increase in the older population in the years ahead, we must now put in place systems which will care for older people. The burden carried by carers relieves the public sector and the Government of their responsibilities and in changing times where elderly people are no longer cared for by their family, we must reward those who take on such responsibilities. We must care for the elderly and ensure that carers and the elderly will be safeguarded in the future.

Having availed of the opportunity to highlight some of the issues of concern, I will conclude by congratulating the Minister and his officials for their management of the economy in recent years and their commitment to ensuring that the decisions now being made are in the interests of the Irish people, not just in the short term, but in the short, medium and long term. All decisions of the Department of Finance and the Minister must be viewed in that light.

I welcome the opportunity to address the issues raised by the Estimates. Surprisingly, I found myself agreeing with many of Senator Minihan's comments, the valediction of the Minister and the Government excepted. His economic commentary, however, was interesting and I agreed with much of what he said.

Now I am getting worried.

I did not have the same problem with Senator Ross. I managed to get through his contribution without agreeing with any of it. If the opposite was the case, I would be worried.

I am not sure that Senator Minihan's comments sit comfortably with Government policy. He said we should not be deflected from prudent borrowing simply to stay within the stability pact. He also suggested that we should operate a counter-cyclical economic policy in this State, an idea the Minister for Finance does not support. It is worth dwelling on this point. The current Government's policy has been dictated by political, not economic, considerations. The spending splurge before May 2002 was intended to smooth the way through the general election, and it did, and the current belt tightening is to facilitate a similar splurge before the next general election. We will see if it works.

The primary function of these splurges was political but the Minister tells us that we should spend when we have the money and withhold when we do not. That makes no sense, it is unwise to prime the pump when it is working and a bad idea to cut off the flow of money that will be needed to prime it when things have slowed dramatically. We are not in recession by any stretch of the imagination, where I would take the Keynesian approach and argue that money should be spent to stimulate the economy, but I disagree with the Minister's pro-cyclical approach.

The Senator should watch what the Minister does, not what he says.

That is the point I made earlier. What he does is determined by political considerations, not what he claims to believe economically. There is a serious difference of view between us on the issue. It is reflected in how we approached the last few days in Brussels. What happened this week was the inevitable outworking of a pact that is fundamentally flawed. I agreed with the President of the European Commission, Mr. Prodi, when he called the pact stupid and said that the defects in it have been clear for a long time. I also agree with the Dutch Minister for Finance who said the pact is effectively dead. It is a pity it has come to this, although it was inevitable, but the pact will have to be revisited in circumstances that are less than ideal. The opportunity existed for some years to revisit it and to put in place a genuine Stability and Growth Pact that would respect both sides of the equation because they do not pull in the same direction all the time. If that had been in place several years ago, we would not be where we are now – faced with the grubby deal that emerged in Brussels this week.

I heard some of Senator Ross's German bashing but no one can argue that the Germans should not be spending money. Their economy is stagnant and for the German Government to cut back further would undoubtedly result in a tailspin that would bring the German economy into serious recession within a short time.

I agree with Senator Minihan that we must take account of two factors. We must take account of the debt to GDP ratio and the level of unemployment in particular countries and the point in the economic cycle each country is at. The first is easy because it can be defined in simple terms, those who have a low debt to GDP ratio should be allowed to borrow for structural purposes and those that do not should do so with great caution or not at all. Italy still has an enormous debt to GDP ratio and is not in the same position as Ireland.

The second consideration is more complex. It is difficult to say that if Germany is in danger of recession, it should be allowed to spend more money. The only way to achieve this is to introduce a measure of discretion into the pact – the current reality – although the rules are supposedly rigid, and take into account the point in the economic cycle countries are at. When we are dealing with countries as powerful as Germany and France, that becomes inevitable.

I do not believe for one minute that the Cork School of Music has been held up because of the European Stability and Growth Pact.

I do not believe that either but that is the reason we have been given.

I have no expertise in the matter but the costs of the project have not escalated over recent years because the facilities that will be provided have been improved. I do not know who worked out the initial costs or the current costs but something has gone seriously wrong with the project. If the current costs on a PPP basis are correct, we should start again because it is a huge amount of money. Something has gone seriously wrong and it cannot be blamed on the Stability and Growth Pact.

In normal circumstances, a year on year increase of 7% in the Estimates would be about right, given that a certain percentage is for benchmarking, which is a once-off increase. It is perhaps on the low side and I would go a couple of points higher. I have serious difficulties, however, with some of the details, particularly on the capital side. We debated this some weeks ago and I made the point that we need to maintain capital spending even when the economy is not growing rapidly. Senator Minihan agreed with that during his contribution but that was not what we saw in the Estimates last week. The increase in the overall capital budget is tiny if the non-Exchequer element is excluded, only a couple of tens of millions of euro, and is a reduction in real terms.

Those are pre-budget figures.

Yes, it is a reduction at this point in real terms compared to the amount spent last year.

Much of it is being spent under a few major headings, the most obvious of which is roads. Senator Dooley is here so we should acknowledge that the Ennis bypass is once more at the starting line and we should hope it crosses it some time during the year. I look forward to the ribbon finally being cut. Senator Minihan listed the roads he expects will be in place before 2006, the 70 kilometres to Portlaoise and the motorway to the Border. The entire network was supposed to be in place by 2006, a much more extensive list of projects than those the Senator listed. The programme is way behind schedule.

We should be spending more on roads. It was inevitable that we would not even be in a position to spend money in the first couple of years because the planning and design was not done in many cases. Extra money was spent two or three years ago on planning and design and some of those projects are now in a position where they could go ahead if the money was available. In simple terms, this is not a straight line. We are not looking at a situation where one would spend the same amount on motorway construction over a period of seven years, but where it will start low and bulge around the middle, which is the position at present. However, there is no bulge because we are spending money on a very small number of projects next year.

The NRA is suggesting there will be 12 or 13 major projects and no more than that. To put it in context, €1.3 billion is a lot of money but when one is spending approximately a third of it on the Dublin Port tunnel, it puts it into context. To be anywhere near meeting the targets for the motorway projects – we are not going to meet them – we need to spend a great deal more on them than we are currently intending to spend.

The Minister for Finance and the public service would say that we did not get the best value for money in the first two years. In truth, he is right. There is no doubt that when the construction industry was at full belt a couple of years ago, the industry's inflation rate was running well ahead of the rest of the economy. We were not getting the value on the return that we needed. We are not in that situation now. Clearly, the construction industry has slowed down somewhat. Labour is available in a way that it has not been for the past few years. We would not have the same downside risks in terms of increasing expenditure on motorways now and that is what we should be doing.

On the subject of health, it has been the primary political focus not just for the past 18 months since the general election, but for a year or two previously. The Government clearly, and rightly, anticipated in the period before the last general election that it would be the primary political issue and it commissioned the health strategy to assuage an increasingly angry electorate. I have spoken before about the health strategy in this House and elsewhere. It is an imaginative strategy and if it was implemented, it would improve the health service. However, it comes at a considerable cost, which is acknowledged in the strategy.

Within six or seven months, the Minister for Finance has made a nonsense of it and he has made it clear since the general election that he has no intention whatsoever of delivering on it. Sadly, if we look at the provision in the health capital budget this year, it is slightly down on last year, €504 million in comparison to €511 million. The amount needed if we are to make any progress whatsoever on the delivery of the health strategy would be at least twice and probably three times that figure.

The Minister is entitled to point out that we have spent significantly more and are spending more now on the health service compared to ten years ago. However, for a whole range of reasons, be they demographics or whatever and not least because we started off with a seriously underfunded and inequitable system, we needed to spend much more and needed the increases in spending that were provided. Much of that increase needs to go towards increased capacity. However, in view of the Estimates provided by the Minister for next year, that cannot be done.

It might be useful to put that in the context of the Hanly report. There is much good in the report and if we are looking for value for money, we need to go down the road suggested by Hanly. However, we cannot really expect people living in places such as Nenagh, Ennis or Roscommon to accept the Hanly report if they see no effort being made by the Government to deliver on the improved services that would be necessary for them to accept the broad rebalancing within the regions the report proposes. To put that simply, if we say to people that we will introduce an ambulance service but we do not provide resources for it, or that we will improve local delivery in places like Ennis and Roscommon for services other than accident and emergency but there are no resources, or we will increase the number of consultants but we make no provision for that, it is not difficult to understand why people are sceptical.

If the downside is that they lose local services, but the upside in terms of improved primary care and ambulance services is not delivered, what can one expect except tens of thousands of people on the streets of Nenagh and Ennis, which is what will happen? It will be almost impossible for those who would like to look at the positive side and to support the general policy thrust to do it because we do not expect that the plus side or the whole package will be delivered. Unfortunately, in the Estimates, there is all too much evidence for those who see in the Government a lack of willingness to deliver the improved primary care, ambulance services, etc.

Mention was made by others of ODA. I will not be speaking in the debate later so I will mention it as it is something in which I have taken an interest. It would be fair to acknowledge that ODA has improved fairly consistently since 1993 and that the Government has played a part in that regard. Some years ago the Department of Foreign Affairs, when Deputy O'Donnell was the Minister of State with responsibility for overseas development, agreed a multi-annual budget with the Department of Finance. That was, by and large, delivered. The Taoiseach, two or three years ago, announced that as part of the Government's then strategy to win a seat at the Security Council, we would increase our ODA commitment to meet the UN target of 0.7% by 2007.

The sad reality is that there is no longer any multi-annual commitment in that regard. At the current rate of increase, we will not meet the 2007 target and NGOs and even bilateral aid cannot work on the basis of stop-go decisions. It does not allow for planning or for projects to be put in place if one does not know from one year to the next exactly how much money will be available for investment in particular projects. This is something in which people in all parties have an interest. It will not cost a huge amount of money, but we need to get it right. We need to agree it on a multi-annual basis so that we know, over three or four years, how much will be spent. I appeal to the Government to look at the ODA budget for the next three years, assuming it will be in power that long, and to set out in clear monetary terms exactly how it intends to reach the 0.7% target in three years, if that remains its intention.

We had a debate in the House a few weeks ago during the Labour Party's Private Members' time and I do not want to repeat what I said then, or what others on these benches said. However, I want to put down a couple of markers for the budget next week. The Government is committed to increasing the old age pension to €200 a week. It is also committed, under its review of the NAPS, to increasing the lowest level of social welfare payment to €150 in real terms before the end of its term, which will, in effect, be about €180 by that time. That will not be achieved if we try to increase social welfare payments by the level of inflation. It will require a payment of at least double the rate of inflation to make it possible to stay on course to meet those targets. I put down this marker now that we will expect the Minister for Finance and the Minister for Social and Family Affairs to deliver on this when the budget is announced next week.

In that context, the cuts Senator Higgins referred to so eloquently earlier are really difficult to take. The overall saving probably will be less than €60 million and I do not know why the cuts have been introduced. One suspects, when one looks at the provision on the rent allowance, that it has more to do with turf wars between individual Departments than with any refocussing of benefits. They are petty and, unfortunately, the effect on individuals who will be affected by them will be considerable. They are targeted at those who are most vulnerable and least able to look after themselves. I hope, in the context of the budget and as we move into next year, that the Government will find it possible to reverse at least the two or three most prominent cuts in the rent allowance and the back to education allowance, which we all agree should not have been introduced. These cuts should be reversed and I hope that will be done.

Senator Ross's comments were interesting, particularly those about low tax. The Labour Party is not in favour of high tax for the sake of it – I do not think anybody is, at least I hope not. I acknowledge that tax can and should play a role in redistribution within society; it is right that it should do so. However, primarily, at this point in the economic cycle and in our development, the Labour Party is interested in securing as much as is necessary from the taxation system to provide a decent level of public service. Some of those services should be provided free at the point of delivery, some should be provided on a universal basis and some should be provided at a cost to some people, but not to others. If I was framing a budget, I would look at priorities in terms of service provision and at ways of finding the money from taxation or elsewhere to finance them. That is the difference between Senator Ross and the Labour Party. Senator Ross believes taxation is bad and should be reduced to the basic minimum, while the Labour Party takes a different view. We look at the service which is needed and try to find the money to pay for it.

I cannot help but refer to what the Minister of State said earlier about stealth taxes and his suggestion that there is no such thing. Some of the charges are justifiable, such as the increase in the television licence, for example. It is reasonable to ask people to make a contribution to services. However, to suggest that there is not a programme of stealth taxes is asking us to swallow a lot. There have been significant increases under a range of areas, such as the drugs payment refund threshold which has been increased from €53.33 to €78 per month. That is an increase of approximately €300 per year for someone who buys drugs on a monthly basis. Unfortunately, many people are in that position. The costs of visiting accident and emergency departments and of staying in public hospital beds have increased, as well as the VHI rates. Virtually all the public utilities, such as the ESB and the gas company, have increased their charges well beyond the rate of inflation. That does not happen by accident. The Government's policy is to increase indirect taxes either by straightforward means, such as excise duties, or through charges made by public utilities rather than increasing direct taxes or capital taxes.

How is an ESB rise a stealth tax?

It is a charge.

It is not a stealth tax. It is not replacing anything in terms of Government expenditure.

That is a separate agenda, which we could debate, on what the future holds for the ESB or how regulation works in the electricity supply service. Unfortunately, it is one of the disadvantages of competition in a service such as electricity supply or generation. It is argued that it is necessary to increase the price before we can have competition. There is a separate argument about the ESB in which we should not get involved. The Government should be honest and clearly acknowledge that there is such a policy and defend it on the basis that it wants to keep direct taxes down. That is fair enough, but it should be honest and upfront about it.

I echo what other Members said about section 481. I am not one of those who takes the view that one should cut out all tax reliefs or tax loopholes, as some people call them. One must look at tax relief schemes in the context of what they are trying to achieve. If they are not achieving something which would not otherwise happen, then it is fine to cut them out. However, there is evidence that section 481 has stimulated the film industry in a positive way. A few years ago the Minister tried to improve the verification processes. In other words, he changed the criteria regarding the need to give local people a certain number of jobs and the need to generate money locally as well as ensuring that a certain amount came from elsewhere. The evidence suggests that was broadly successful. There is some evidence that in the absence of film relief or other incentives to the film industry, the industry in this country will be at a significant disadvantage internationally. Before the Minister carries out his threat to eliminate the relief, he should look at it one last time because it merits it and there is cross-party support for its continuation.

I am conscious that this is an in-between debate in that we have only part of the information and the rest will come next week in the budget. We will have another bite of the cherry next week.

I welcome the Minister of State and his officials from the Department of Finance to the House. As regards section 481, the Joint Committee on Finance and the Public Service met representatives from the film industry who made a good case for the retention of the relief. They clearly stated that the Irish film industry would collapse if the tax relief was abolished. We spoke to the Taoiseach at the parliamentary party meeting about that issue and we advised him that it should be retained. The committee met excellent union people who represented actors and crafts people and they pleaded for the tax relief to be kept in place. I am optimistic that it will be kept because it would be crazy to abolish it. There are 4,500 people employed in the film industry and 3,500 young people are currently studying to enter the movie industry because it is a glamorous business. If the tax relief is abolished, the film industry in Ireland will collapse because other countries are copying our success.

I remind Members that 30 years ago we joined the European Economic Community. The Industrial Development Authority of Ireland set out to brand Ireland as the best location in Europe for international investment. Dr. William Harris, the chief executive officer of Science Foundation Ireland, said that the strategy over the past 30 years has been most successful for this country and has left the world in awe of our accomplishments and achievements. He also said it is a role model for other developing countries throughout the world. We have moved from an agricultural economy to a manufacturing one. When the unemployment rate was more than 18%, thousands of young people emigrated every year. However, the opposite is the case today. Some 95% of people are employed and, to date, 41,000 people from poorer countries have come to this country looking for jobs. No one would have believed that would happen when we joined the EU.

I warn Members and those in Government that in May next year ten new eastern European countries will join the EU – Hungary, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Slovakia, Slovenia, the Baltic states of Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia and the Mediterranean countries of Malta and Cyprus. These new entrants to the EU want what we have and they will compete fiercely on the basis of price and performance just as Ireland has done. It is more difficult to stay on top than people realise. It is easier to get to the top than to stay there. One has only to look at Manchester United and other football teams to see what can happen. It is easy to become complacent whether one is in business, education or Government. The challenge is to remain focused on performance and facts if we want to sustain our development.

I have a few facts which relate to the future performance of the economy. The recent OECD chart for Government research and development spend as a proportion of GDP shows that Ireland is ranked 22 out of 24 countries. We are at the bottom of the league. According to the expert group on future skills needs, there is an annual shortfall of 2,500 trained professionals from third level for the years 2000 to 2005. We also have an annual shortfall of 800 technicians and we have 25% fewer engineering or science graduates than three or four years ago. How will that help to sustain the development of high technology in our economy?

The Estimate for the Tánaiste's Department in 2004 is €1.2 billion, which is an increase of 3% over last year. Overall spending on science and technology will increase by 36% over 2003 levels. The bulk of this will go to Science Foundation Ireland to fund its ambitious research programme. SFI was given a statutory title this year. Its job is to be the national foundation for excellence in scientific research, playing a key role in developing Ireland as a globally recognised centre of research excellence. Dr. William C. Harris, whom I mentioned earlier, has said that human brain power will become the driving force of the world economy and that developing, recruiting and retaining talented people will be a necessity if Ireland is to play a leadership role in the world economy.

Outstanding research requires world-class scientists and engineers. World-class researchers are highly motivated. They are like thoroughbred horses. They compete and work very hard in the global market. They are born to compete. If we are to continue to attract high-technology companies against intense competition, develop our indigenous high-tech industry and show that our success over the last few years was not just a flash in the pan and that we can sustain a leading presence in high-technology industries, we must realise this is a complex and fast-changing sector and the challenges of advancing up the value chain are significant. It is vital that the Government's commitment to research and development does not waver. We need zealots and missionaries in organisations such as the IDA, Enterprise Ireland and Science Foundation Ireland, who will drive this new development of brain power. Otherwise, we will not be able to compete.

In the future when international companies are investing in this country they will want to know how many PhDs we have and in what subjects they did their theses. It will not be a matter of wanting to locate in Galway or anywhere else but about the calibre of young people we have. That is the world in which we are competing and there will be heavy competition from eastern European countries which have well educated young populations and are very anxious to be like us.

At practically every Fianna Fáil parliamentary party meeting over the last year, as the Acting Chairman will recall, the issue of community employment schemes was raised.

I cannot confirm or deny that.

Can you not? I thought the Acting Chairman was not as independent as the Cathaoirleach.

Acting Chairman

Senators are not allowed to bring the Cathaoirleach into the debate.

At nearly every meeting Deputies and Senators pointed out how appalling it was—

Appalling.

They pointed out how their local communities were being affected by the cutbacks in this scheme. It was agreed almost unanimously that this strategy was wrong, particularly for Fianna Fáil. The reason I joined Fianna Fáil was that it is a party that looks after—

(Interruptions).

It has been running the country since 1922 – I mean since 1932.

Yes, we got the first ten years.

It has done a good job. I said earlier that other countries hold us in awe. Fianna Fáil has been in office all this time so it must have done a good job.

Did the Senator say "in awe"?

Yes. I was quoting Dr. William Harris of Science Foundation Ireland. Ireland is held in awe by countries around the world.

At the parliamentary party meetings we stressed that Fianna Fáil members wanted to keep the CE schemes in place. The Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment recently said: "Combined participation levels on community employment, jobs initiative and social economy programmes will be maintained at end 2003 levels and no further reductions in numbers are envisaged in 2004." I welcome this major announcement for its common sense. The Minister has obviously been listening to what people on the ground – Fianna Fáil Party members and Members of the House – have been saying. I do not have to spell out the benefits of the scheme.

I attended the pre-budget submission of the Society of St. Vincent de Paul in Buswell's hotel about three weeks ago. Professor John Monaghan of Trinity College, the vice-president of the organisation, cried out for help from politicians. He wanted them to convey to the Government the needs of those who are not part of the Celtic tiger and that it should support these people. I was struck by one point he made, which went to my heart. He said there were 70,000 children living in consistent poverty in Ireland. We must share the wealth of the Celtic tiger with these people and with the Traveller community. The issue of Travellers is close to my heart. The society called for 300 extra houses to be built or refurbished next year. Yesterday I heard about people who are going to South Africa to build houses and it occurred to me that they should stay here and build houses for Travellers instead so that they do not have to live in squalor on the side of the road. These people had craft skills – they are carpenters, painters and so on.

It is the responsibility of politicians to look after those who are socially excluded. It is not all about balancing the books. I know the Minister for Finance was praised eloquently by Senator Ross, which was a great compliment to him, but he should try not to be an accountant all the time. We must spend money on those who are not part of the success of the Celtic tiger, who are socially excluded and unable to participate. Another group we must consider, whose case was put forward so passionately by Senator Norris, are those who are disabled. We have had a successful year for people who are disabled, but we cannot just have rhetoric; we must deliver the goods. Disabled people are entitled to develop their potential and skills like the rest of us. I call on the Government to ensure that disabled people, no matter how they are disabled, have full rights. Travellers and people who cannot go out and earn a living should also be taken into consideration.

The Irish Association for Spina Bifida and Hydrocephalus has asked me to speak on its behalf in the House whenever I can. Am I allowed to mention names, a Chathaoirligh?

Acting Chairman

The Senator should tell me the name.

Councillor Nick Killian is the chief executive of the association.

Acting Chairman

I am sure he and his organisation will be flattered by the Senator's mention of them. I do not think they would have any objection as long as the Senator is not being critical.

That is a vote.

Senator Phelan should not be so cynical. He is too young.

All right.

The Senator will have trouble in life if that is the way he wants to go through it. I suspect he is just being funny.

Senator White is banishing him from the political map because he already means trouble.

We will forgive him this time.

We will overlook it.

Acting Chairman

The Senator should allow Senator White to continue without interruption.

I was the only one who said nothing.

I am listening to the comments as I am speaking and taking note of the body language.

The Irish Association for Spina Bifida and Hydrocephalus is run by many volunteers. I call on the Government to make sure it receives adequate funding, along with the Society of St. Vincent de Paul.

Hear, hear.

There are 9,000 volunteers working in the latter organisation, who have given up their time to help.

I agree with what Senator White said at the end of her contribution and I echo her sentiments. I am delighted to have the opportunity to speak on the Estimates in the run-up to the budget, which will take place next week. I am also delighted that the Minister for Finance, Deputy McCreevy, seems to have come around to the idea of fiscal rectitude. We are all talking about how he is wielding his axe. "Fiscal rectitude" is a terrible term, which conjures up all sorts of images.

The question I have was eloquently outlined by the Minister of State when he spoke about Government spending increases over the past two years and how, in 2001, it ran to 21% and had been 15% the previous years. Where was the Minister for Finance's axe at that time? Why did he let things get so badly out of hand that we now find ourselves in our current position?

While I do not know if this figure is correct, it has been brought to my attention that current spending by the Government, including the sums proposed in the Estimates, has increased by 58% over what was spent in 2000. While that seems like an astronomical increase, I have not had time to examine it. It is clear that despite how the Minister for Finance might pontificate, fiscal rectitude has not been particularly high on his list of priorities in recent years.

Other Members referred to aspects of the Estimates that will either lead to increased charges or reduced services. I am concerned about local government. For the second year in a row, the local government fund will remain more or less frozen. As a member of a local authority, the Acting Chairman, Senator Leyden, will be aware of the serious effect this will have. The Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government tells us almost daily about the need to introduce large development levies. His logic is that developers are making huge sums of money and some money must be taken from them. While that is laudable, surely he does not expect developers not to pass on this increase in its entirety to ordinary house buyers. People in Kilkenny are faced with the possibility of development charges of slightly more than €5,000 for once-off rural houses with no connection to anything. While this has been proposed under the current draft scheme, it has not been accepted.

Local authorities find themselves in poor financial circumstances as funding from central Government remains stagnant. The cost of providing services is rising annually, yet there are few places where the authorities can find funds to pay for those improved services. The benchmarking payments will cost Kilkenny County Council approximately €1 million this year and €2 million every year thereafter. This is a significant sum of money, particularly when it has to be raised locally. The result is that the council is being asked to adopt these crazy development charges that are effectively a tax on first-time buyers. As others pointed out, until last year we had the first-time buyer's grant and we now have the first-time buyer's tax that has been introduced by the back door.

Central Government has changed, in an underhand way, the system by which local government is funded. Until recently, sewerage schemes received 100% funding from the Department. Now, such schemes would be lucky to get 70% or 75% funding and the rest must be sourced locally. This leads to local authorities seeking higher development charges from the most vulnerable group in our society. We should be doing more to help people onto the property ladder. This flies in the face of the pronouncements about helping first-time buyers from the Government in recent years. The advent of the development charge runs contrary to the stated view of the Government.

A number of Members mentioned infrastructure. I was struck by Senator Minihan's comments on infrastructure and I agree with him. It is disgraceful that many of our national primary routes are inadequate. The road linking Waterford and Dublin that runs through Kilkenny is, in parts, no more than a glorified cow path. It is not acceptable that such roads should exist in this day and age. Senator Minihan told the House on the Order of Business today that there were no disagreements among the junior partners in Government. Therefore, it is unbelievable that we should have to listen to his colleague, Senator Dardis, continually saying such roads should not be built. He says the roads programme, that will involve the building of motorways, should not take place. This is completely contradicted by what Senator Minihan said in the House. Even though there are only 12 Progressive Democrats Members of the Oireachtas, they are perfectly capable of arguing among themselves on serious political issues such as this one. It is particularly hypocritical in Senator Dardis's case as he fought a general election campaign that opposed the building of a motorway while his party is pushing through the building of this necessary motorway.

While I did not hear all the contributions to the debate, I do not think anyone referred to agriculture. I hope the Minister of State will help allay some of my fears on this issue.

Senator Mansergh covered the issue quite well.

I did not hear what he said. For the second consecutive year there is to be a cutback in the funding for Teagasc. This is significant at this time as agriculture is undergoing changes associated with the Fischler proposals. The reduced spending on Teagasc has caused general unease in the farming fraternity around the country. Following last year's €17 million reduction, one can only assume that more of the advisory offices around the country will be closed if Teagasc is to continue functioning. Contrary to the pious aspirations of Government Deputies and Senators when they speak in their constituencies about how such advisory centres should be kept open at all costs, it seems the Department of Finance has no intention of providing for it. I am anxious to hear the response of the Minister of State to this matter. The Estimates also revealed a halving of the disease eradication allocation. This is a significant development and I would like to hear an explanation as to why this was deemed necessary and where the money taken from the scheme is to be spent in the future.

There have been a number of reductions in the Vote of the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform. There has been a 4% decrease in funding for victim support and a 5% decrease in funding for bodies that are concerned with violence against women. This is an extraordinary reduction. There has been a 75% reduction in anti-racism awareness funding in the Estimates. While this has not been widely commented on, it is startling that it should come at this stage in the development of the State.

One of the great highlights the Government announced when it came to office was the appointment of the Minister, Deputy Éamon Ó Cuív, as the new Minister for rural communities in particular and community and Gaeltacht affairs in general. The Estimates contain a 30% reduction in capital funding for Údarás na Gaeltachta and a 25% reduction in Gaeltacht improvement schemes. This flies in the face of one of the Government's main policies. The Government emphasised the creation of a Department specifically responsible for these areas.

There is a big increase in grant aid.

The Estimates have been lauded for providing significant increases in funding for education. If one examines where the extra funds are being spent and takes out the elements concerned with pay and the redress board, one is left with a stagnant position for this year, according to the Book of Estimates. Contrary to what we were told about increased funding, it looks as if matters are staying pretty much the way they are. Senator White and others spoke about the community enterprise schemes and their value and importance and I am interested in the new-found enthusiasm within Fianna Fáil to keep them intact.

It is not new.

The phrase "locking the door after the horse is bolted" comes to mind. Community employment schemes have been decimated and for this mock indignation to arise within the Fianna Fáil parliamentary party at this late stage is quite disgraceful.

That is an overstatement.

It does not do politics or politicians any good to act in such a manner. I was particularly interested in the Minister of State's opening remarks. He spoke about the 96,000 people that are now employed providing health services, compared to 66,000 in 1997. He explained there were 6,000 extra nurses and 8,500 extra doctors and dentists. That means, presumably, that 16,000 or 17,000 extra people were employed in administration for that period.

The figure includes catering and all sorts of care costs.

I did not expect that to be included. This highlights from the Opposition point of view that the major problem with the health service is not the provision of money. We all accept that vastly increased amounts of money are being spent in this area. However, where is the money being spent? Based on these figures, it is not being targeted on the health service per se. It is being spent on providing salaries for people who are not involved in providing front-line services. This is an issue the Government usually brushes under the carpet although it has stated it quite brazenly on this occasion, which is interesting to say the least.

I was also struck by the comment in the Minister of State's address that he wished to dispel the notion that the Government is seeking to introduce stealth taxes and promote increased charges in order to fund the proposed increases in public spending. He could have fooled me. Many stealth taxes and charges have been increased and are proposed as a result of this Book of Estimates. Members of my own family avail of the food supplement scheme. I was struck during the week to hear a man on the radio on a low income telling of the €45 per week he spent on special food supplements, which were covered up to this because he had a specific heart condition. I do not know what he was employed at but he will not be in a position to spend €45 a week from his income and will have to go without some of the supplements and therefore put his health at risk.

The changes in the social welfare system announced in the Book of Estimates is probably the most disgraceful aspect of this. It is penny pinching of a miserly fashion which targets the most vulnerable in society. There is no excuse for this. I agree that schemes must be updated on a continual basis, but there is penny pinching and penny pinching, particularly with regard to food supplements, and that was really wrong.

There is nit picking and nit picking.

I want to refer to an issue raised by Senator Norris, namely the much beleaguered motorist who apparently faces another increase in road taxation, with which I strongly disagree. This is grand in certain areas where public transport exists but down in Kilkenny or Roscommon, where public transport is not an option, the car is necessary. We should look towards the future, putting the emphasis on emissions from cars rather than on engine size when it comes to motor taxation. There is much more I would like to say, but I will leave it at that.

I join with colleagues in welcoming the Minister of State and the publication of the Book of Estimates for this year. Great credit is due to the Minister for Finance, Deputy McCreevy, the Minister of State and the entire Government for achieving this remarkable level of public spending again this year. There is a 5% increase in public expenditure despite the straitened economic circumstances we have witnessed for the last two years. That increase in public spending is particularly welcome against a backdrop of the decrease in inflation to 2.3%, announced on the same day. This, coupled with the increases as recognised, puts us in a strong position for the next 12 months. It will hopefully position us to benefit from the recovery in the US and other markets with which we trade and on which we are dependent for continued growth.

The 5% increase has been achieved without a return to the old economic norms of boom and bust, largely characterised by significant public borrowing. It would be easy to have a spending rate of 5% if we were to continue to borrow as in the past. However, there is a relatively small level of borrowing, in the region of €3 billion for next year. To achieve such a level of expenditure with limited borrowing is particularly good. That is largely driven by the Stability and Growth Pact from Europe. There has been much debate about that over the last few days. I would like to raise a particular issue with the Minister of State on the borrowing under that pact, particularly borrowing by local authorities. This is creating some concern in local authorities, particularly regarding projects that require significant financing, which will become self-sufficient at a later stage. I do not wish to be parochial but there is a significant project in north Clare, an interpretative centre connected with the Cliffs of Moher. This depends on the county council being able to borrow matched funding. We are hoping to get grant funding—

And go on a junket to Portugal.

—which has already been applied for. There is no doubt that the project fits all the criteria set out in the capital project from the Department of Arts, Sport and Tourism. One of the major stumbling blocks is the local authority's inability to borrow under the Government guidelines and the current cap. Perhaps the Minister of State would examine this.

The envisaged €3 billion borrowing is totally insignificant when the level of investment in infrastructure is considered, as identified in the Estimates. It is great to see the national debt has halved since 1997. This provides in the region of an extra €1 billion which is used as investment in the public sector. We now see the benefits of not going back to that level of borrowing, which created many of the difficulties the Government has had to address in recent years. Thankfully, we have moved away from that. That the Government is in a position to spend as outlined in the Book of Estimates is a sign of a healthy economy. It is noteworthy that the public spend will be twice the EU average and that is a point of which we should be proud. There is no doubt that this has not come about by chance. Some people on the other side of the House believe this was destined to happen. It would not have happened without the prudent economic management exercised not just by the Department of Finance but by other Departments ensuring their spending remained within projected levels. Over the last 12 months they have ensured that their levels of spending have remained within the projections. The approach has been to consolidate when circumstances change or when faced with a downturn. The bursting of the dotcom bubble in 2000, the tragic events of 11 September 2001, the foot and mouth outbreak and other developments created the recent difficult economic circumstances we have experienced. It is important to recognise these facts because when the economy picks up again people will tend to forget the difficulties that were overcome in the past.

I am glad the Minister pointed out that public spending must be matched with revenue. Everybody understands the principles of budgeting in the home, in business and elsewhere. One cannot spend what one does not have. There are demands from numerous interest groups in a range of areas, all with justifiable cases and on behalf of good causes. However, nobody wants a return to increased taxation so only the amount of money that is collected can be spent.

The priorities identified in the Estimates are the most important – health, social welfare, education and infrastructure. As Fianna Fáil's spokesperson on transport in the Seanad, I am delighted that the high level of investment in roads has been maintained in the Estimates for next year. It matches the amount spent last year, which was historically high. Approximately €1.3 billion will be invested in the construction of motorways and dual carriageways. This will be spent on a number of projects that are about to be completed, and which were identified by other contributors to this debate, and on the commencement of other projects. As Senator McDowell indicated, the Ennis bypass is scheduled to go ahead early next year on the basis of this continued high level of investment.

It is worthwhile comparing the allocation of €1.3 billion with spending in other countries. The Oireachtas transport committee met with representatives of the motorways authority of England recently. England is not spending anything like what Ireland is spending per head of population. The budget is approximately 75% more than this country's or about €2.3 billion even though the population is almost 18 times greater than ours. Our spending in this area is far greater but we are coming from behind in terms of provision so there is a deficit to be tackled.

I welcome the indication that the Departments of Finance and Transport are in the process of agreeing an envelope of funding of approximately €6 billion to be spent over a period of five years. This is most important for the development of infrastructure. If money is available in the Estimates, it is easier to negotiate the price of projects. The difficulty until now has been that spending is based on an annual allocation of funding. When this envelope is in place it will allow the Department to get better value and to deliver more projects. The allocation of €1.28 billion for roads is four times what was spent six years ago. There has been a major leap in funding. Over the next six years the envelope of €6 billion will allow us to reach a point where critical road infrastructure will have reached an acceptable level. At that stage the Government in power will have the capacity to divert some funding to other infrastructural projects, perhaps in the public transport network.

Since 2000, approximately 270 kilometres of high quality roads have been completed. Another 160 kilometres are under construction and 131 kilometres have been put to tender with most of the work to begin next year. Obviously, the Ennis bypass will figure in that group. More than half the Department's Estimate will go on 27 road projects. It is noteworthy to see a Department devote so much money to dealing with a recognised deficit. A welcome development, and something that must be considered in the future for other infrastructural projects, is the level of money coming through from the private sector through public private partnerships. A further €185 million is involved in the Kilcock and Kinnegad bypasses together with the Dundalk western bypass. This is hugely important.

While there has been unprecedented investment in roads over the past five years, there has also been considerable investment, approximately €1 billion since 1999, in public transport. The total allocation for this year is €646 million and, of this, €366 million will be capital spending. This added to the EU grant of approximately €37 million amounts to more than €400 million for capital investment in infrastructural public transport projects.

There is the usual subvention to the CIE group of companies, Dublin Bus, Iarnród Éireann and Bus Éireann. This will allow the companies to continue to upgrade their products. The Oireachtas transport committee also had an opportunity to meet with representatives of London Transport to examine how they have dealt with investment in public transport and infrastructure. Even in a privatised network there was still a necessity to subsidise the ongoing operation of public transport. They indicated that in their experience there would always be a need, regardless of who managed the operation, for subvention to ensure the delivery of the service. The critical development with CIE is that service level agreements have been agreed between the three companies. Together with the subvention, that will ensure we get an output to match the Government's expectation, based on its input.

The considerable investment in the CIE companies over the last number of years was spearheaded by the Leader of the House. She ensured investment in Iarnród Éireann and arranged for the 80 new diesel railcars that will be brought into service later this year to improve the frequency of services in and around Cork, Limerick, Galway and Dublin. That was most welcome.

And Ennis.

Of course. I intended to discuss that later and I thank the Senator for reminding me of it. There is a greatly enhanced service between Ennis and Limerick and we greatly appreciate it. There has also been considerable investment in the DART.

There is not enough time to address the many other issues involved in the Estimates. From the point of view of transport infrastructure, the Estimates are most welcome and I look forward to continued support in this area. I urge the Minister to do what he can to re-examine the Government's cap on borrowing by local authorities. It is most important for the future of some projects.

I thank Senator Dooley for sharing his time. I welcome the publication of the Book of Estimates. One can see from the actions of the Minister, Deputy McCreevy, that much has been learned from previous decades with regard to peaks and troughs in economic performance, both domestically and internationally.

If the Minister were to respond positively to some of the loudest calls from the Opposition and a tiny minority in the media, the country would quickly revert to the bad old days of the 1980s when, as a result of spend and bust and attempts to spend our way out of temporary difficulties, the country ended up worse off than ever. In fact, in 1987 the country was on the verge of bankruptcy. It required the courage of politicians such as the former Deputy, Ray MacSharry to bring the country caringly, prudently and courageously through it. It involved some extremely harsh decisions.

Why not mention all of them?

We have learned a great deal. The balance, insights and good judgment calls of the Minister, Deputy McCreevy, and how he has indicated future expenditure is proof of that learning process. I welcome his decisions and the publication of the Estimates. I welcome the Minister's decision not to try to spend our way out of a temporary difficulty.

I want to refer to the public service pay policy, an area which is attracting much comment due to the percentage of total spend being devoted to it. The most controversial aspect of the policy is benchmarking. The main Opposition party appears not to understand – its former leader in the mid 1980s did not appear to understand it either – that a commitment entered into should be honoured. In the mid 1980s, the then Taoiseach, Dr. Garret FitzGerald, sought to renege on a commitment entered into with teachers. I recall at the time he had to hijack RTE and other elements of the media to try to get over the heads of the teachers' unions to the people in a failed attempt to justify reneging on a deal.

What about the prison officers?

Benchmarking is an integral part of the national public pay policy which is enshrined in the Sustaining Progress partnership agreement. This process was started by Fianna Fáil in the late 1980s and has underpinned phenomenal economic progress and growth. The mechanism has created industrial relations harmony and is continuing to progress that harmony throughout not just the public service but the private sector.

I welcome the publication of the Estimates on education and I look forward to a more detailed debate on the issue at a later date.

I listened with interest to Senators' contributions. Despite an offer to be relieved, I was pleased to remain for the full debate.

A number of Senators raised the issue of the Stability and Growth Pact. Ireland supports the pact on the basis of sound public finances in the EU. The discipline which has resulted from the pact has been good for Europe and Ireland. Sound public finances are essential to underpin business confidence and investment to sustain economic growth. Clearly there are some adjustments to be made but, contrary to news reports in the wake of this week's meeting of Finance Ministers, the Stability and Growth Pact is alive and well. The rules of the pact exist for a good reason, which is to ensure a disciplined approach to the management of public finances across the EU and this discipline remains in place.

On the decisions in respect of France and Germany, there is no difference in substance between the European Commission's position and the conclusions reached by the Council on what needs to be done to tackle the excessive deficits. The main issue discussed by Finance Ministers was essentially procedural and concerned the best way to proceed. While the Commission put forward its view, the majority of member states, including Ireland, favoured proceeding on the basis of the Council conclusions. This was supported, particularly in view of the stated willingness of both France and Germany to adhere to these respective positions. The Commission's formal proposals are effectively in abeyance and may be reactivated in the future. The performance of both France and Germany will be closely monitored for adherence to the respective commitments undertaken by them.

Members raised the issue of stealth taxes and charges. The total value of additional charges, including motor tax increases, is estimated at €91 million. This represents 0.3% of the total gross provision of more than €40 billion. Some of the changes in eligibility conditions and social welfare payments arise from ongoing reviews of relevant schemes. These have been included for a reason. When the Minister announces the increases in social welfare benefits on budget day the situation will become much clearer.

On the economic and budgetary strategy, it is clear that creating a low inflation environment, keeping public expenditure increases in line with resources, keeping debt levels low and planning a coherent investment strategy will reap rewards, not just in the long term but in a matter of years. This is a prudent policy. The Government's sensible economic and budgetary policies contributed in no small way to the achievement of unprecedented growth levels up to 2002, which will continue to ensure that the Irish economy performs comparatively well in the future.

On pay and public service numbers, Senator Higgins and others advocated that we breach the social partnership by not honouring the agreed terms of Sustaining Progress.

He said it should be renegotiated.

He wanted us to breach it. He said we should not pay benchmarking, which would be a clear breach of Sustaining Progress. Partnership has served the country well over the years and the Government is committed to honouring its pay commitments, provided the conditions in the agreement are met. We cannot prejudge the outcome of the performance verification process, the first round of which is currently taking place. Public service pay accounts for approximately one third of all public spending. If we wish to attract good quality public servants we must pay rates reasonably comparable to the private sector. This is a fact of life.

Senator Norris criticised changes to supplementary welfare payments, particularly rent supplements. As in the case of other social welfare payments, the purpose of the SWA rent supplement is to meet income maintenance needs, not long-term housing needs. The Department of Social and Family Affairs indicated that particular care will be taken when implementing the measure to ensure the interests of vulnerable groups such as the homeless, the elderly and people with a disability are fully protected. Local authorities have primary responsibility for meeting long-term housing needs. The provision in 2004 for local authority and social housing of €1.049 billion will allow for significant investment across a range of targeted measures which are important in terms of tackling poverty and social inclusion. The increase in the housing provision will allow for an increase in the local authority housing starts from 4,500 in 2003 to 5,000 in 2004.

There are 53,000 on the housing waiting list.

Due to the consolidation of the progress gained to-date in the voluntary housing area, it is expected there will be a record output of approximately 1,700 units in 2003 and there will be an increase in the number of households that will benefit under the various affordable housing schemes.

A number of Senators raised the issue of infrastructure. Despite suggestions to the contrary, investment in infrastructure is running at historically high levels in recent years. The reality is that the Government has substantially increased the annual Exchequer capital provision since 1997. It has increased from €2 billion to €5.5 billion in 2004. We have maintained it at approximately 5% of GDP in recent years in order to give priority to addressing the infrastructural deficit. The different schemes announced are making substantial progress. Some of the major ones discussed here today are well ahead of budget contrary to many of the reports about the big national programmes.

The Government's commitment to implementing its economic and social policy, as appropriate to prevailing economic circumstances and to the sound management of the public finances, will be to the benefit of people in the coming years. The 2004 Estimates provide for a gross expenditure of €40.4 billion. This is an overall increase of €1.9 billion or 5% on the forecast outturn for 2003. It is ahead of inflation which is currently running at 2.3%. Some 67% of this provision will be allocated to the key priorities of health, education and social welfare.

Acting Chairman

I thank the Minister of State for his contribution and for coming to the House. I also thank his officials.

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