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Seanad Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 6 Jul 2006

Vol. 184 No. 13

Order of Business.

The Order of Business is Nos. 1 to 7, inclusive. No. 1 is a motion to bring forward some new e-democracy initiatives to strengthen the position of the Oireachtas at the centre of the political process. It will enable a pilot exercise to be introduced to make use of new technologies to open a dialogue with citizens and other interests. It will offer the public an opportunity to make its views known to Members on a particular draft Bill. This idea originated in this House but was pinched by the Lower House. The Minister concerned and the Members of both Houses will benefit from gathering views before a Bill is formally debated in the Houses. This will be taken without debate.

No. 2, motion to establish a joint committee on child protection, comprising Members of Seanad Éireann and Dáil Éireann to examine the issues of child protection arising from the recent Supreme Court decision in the CC case; No. 3, Institutes of Technology Bill 2006 — Committee and Remaining Stages, to be taken on the conclusion of the Order of Business and to conclude at 12.30 p.m.; No. 4, the Hepatitis C Compensation Tribunal (Amendment) Bill 2006 — Committee and Remaining Stages to be taken at 12.30 p.m. and to conclude at 2.30 p.m.; No. 5, Planning and Development (Strategic Infrastructure) Bill 2006 — Report and Final Stages, to be taken at 3 p.m. and to conclude not later than 4 p.m.; No. 6, the Road Traffic Bill 2006 — Report and Final Stages to be taken at 4 p.m. and to conclude no later than 4.30 p.m.; No. 7, the Building Societies (Amendment) Bill 2006 — all Stages, to be taken at 5 p.m. and to conclude not later than 8 p.m., Second Stage to conclude not later than 6.30 p.m. with the contribution of spokespersons on Second Stage not to exceed 12 minutes and other Senators not to exceed eight minutes, the Minister to be called upon to reply not later than ten minutes before the conclusion of Second Stage. Committee and Remaining Stages to be taken on the conclusion of Second Stage. There will be a sos from 2.30 p.m. until 3 p.m. and from 4.30 p.m until 5 p.m.

I was taken aback when I first saw this week's schedule. It is due to the Opposition that we are able to break up this evening and not have to sit tomorrow. I thank the Opposition for its co-operation. It was helpful to my office. As the days advanced and the work became cumulative, working out the schedule was like a jigsaw.

I thank the Leader for her kind comments.

I propose an amendment to the Order of Business in order that First Stage of No. 20 on the Order Paper may be moved. I seek the House's permission to have this Bill printed. The Bill is entitled the Irish Nationality and Citizenship (Amendment) (Garda Síochána) Bill 2006 and is in my name and that of Senators Ulick Burke and Cummins. It will give automatic rights of entitlement to Irish citizenship to non-national members of the Garda Síochána.

All Members know of the extraordinary work done by the staff of the Oireachtas Library. Not only is it a beautiful room with tremendous resource materials, it is staffed by knowledgeable librarians who help Members in their work on a daily basis. A decision was recently taken — where I am not sure — that only one librarian will be hot-desked in the library while the other librarians will be located in another building.

It is ridiculous.

Who took this decision? It certainly was not made by the Committee on Procedure and Privileges. It did not come to my attention. I use the library on a daily basis and its staff are first rate. Now they are to be shunted to the Kildare House extension. In what committee was this decision taken? When will it be implemented? This is another example of the diminution of services to Members without recourse to them. I am very annoyed by it. If anyone can tell me I am wrong, I will withdraw my comments. By the time we return in October, there will be only one librarian in the library servicing the 166 Members of the other House and the 60 Members of this House. That is not good enough.

No. 18 , the Offences Against the State (Amendment) Bill 2006, is in the name of the Independent Senators. Elements of it have been included in the Criminal Justice Bill, for which I thank the Minister. I withdraw it from the Order Paper.

The House should have a discussion on No. 1, when it comes back from committee. It cannot come back to House as a fait accompli. It is crucial that Members have an understanding of what process will be established to consult the public and if it will be before or after Second Stage.

Senator Brian Hayes's information on the Library arrangements is incorrect. The decision was taken by the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission. Over the years there has been a demand from Members of both Houses for a fully extended research and library service. The service will be increased to 12 times its current capacity to provide both librarians and researcher. It will allow Members to contact a research station, either based in the Oireachtas Library or Kildare House. It is not my understanding that there will be only one librarian in the library. Electronic, telephone or personal points of contact will be provided. A substantial staff complement will be in place from 1 September, bringing us almost into line with other parliaments. Members will be able to request information and research on topics and Bills. It will mean we are not restricted to the partial memoranda from Departments. We will be able to get a view that is not biased in one direction or another. It will add substantially and exponentially to the level of services available. An announcement on the arrangements will be made shortly.

We need to clarify and delineate the roles and procedures of the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission and the CPP. Constitutionally, these Houses are run through these committees, which are representative of all groups and parties. The commission has a separate role. It is important it does not encroach into what should remain the sovereign right of the Houses in determining how they do their business. Any uncertainty in this should be ended.

I draw Members' attention to a letter in today's The Irish Times from a British-based doctor, describing his experience of working in an Irish hospital.

I read that.

He was surprised at the salary, far higher than that in the UK, for a 33 hour week. He was also surprised at the number of medical insurance submission forms which he had to sign. He stated, "I was amazed to discover I was expected to submit a bill for my services and that I would be paid for looking after these patients whom I felt I was already paid to look after". Everybody knows I am sick of declaring my interest here but I wish to draw the attention of the House to that comment on the way we do our business from somebody who thinks that our doctors and nurses are great but who was astonished at the amount of money that was pouring into his pockets over the course of a short locum service he provided as a locum consultant physician.

Will the Leader consider having a debate in the autumn session on the up-to-date position regarding the revision of the register of electors? I am sure this issue is close to the heart of many Members who are running for the Dáil in the next election. The Minister should be invited in here to explain the changes that have taken place and what progress has been made to ensure that the register is up to date and accurate for the next election.

I suggest to my colleague, the Leader of the Opposition, Senator Brian Hayes, to consider amending his Bill, which it was agreed to take in the House, to provide for the naturalisation of all European citizens who are here for one year only to vote in the next general election. Would it not be a wonderful gesture?

It would be great.

There would be approximately 250,000 Poles, Czechs and others becoming part of the electorate. The Opposition would like to have 250,000 new voters.

That is impossible. What is Senator Leyden talking about?

Senator Leyden could do with a few himself to keep up his——

Senator Leyden has explained the point adequately.

I make this point on a personal basis. I have not been requested to do so by the Fianna Fáil Party. The Opposition could incorporate this measure or the Bill could include an amendment from me in the autumn to allow for all European citizens who work here for less than 12 months to vote in the next general election. They should have a say in how this country is managed and in the investment of European funds.

Senator Leyden.

They are sure to be delighted with the present Government and I expect the majority of them would vote for Fianna Fáil.

We can discuss all of that in the autumn.

They probably will, whether they want to or not.

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