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Seanad Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 2 Apr 2009

Vol. 194 No. 15

Adjournment Matters.

Special Educational Needs.

Cuirim fáilte roimh an tAire Stáit. This matter relates to the proposed removal of a special class from St. Anne's primary school, Bailieborough, County Cavan. Up to now, 14 children have attended two special classes for mild general learning disability. These pupils would be hugely educationally, socially and emotionally disadvantaged if one of the classes was suppressed, as is proposed. These two classes have been in existence since 1 July 1974 and have served the special needs pupils from the east Cavan area.

I know many of the past pupils of the school who benefited greatly as individuals from their education there. There are excellent teachers in the school. Ms Margaret Carolan, who has been a teacher there for a number of years, has developed a rapport with the parents of the children with particular needs and with the community. She is well supported by the people who have joined the teaching team in the school, and the principal, Mr. Hanley, who has great interest in this area, has adopted a hands-on approach to running these special classes.

If one of the classes is removed, the children concerned will experience a sense of failure. A critical point worthy of examination by the Minister of State and his Department is that these children would have received the normal resource allocations in the schools they were attending. They have come to this school from schools in east Cavan. They received learning support, resource allocations and assistance in the schools they attended, but that was found to be inadequate. Therefore, it would be a misconception to say that these pupils could return to their schools and mainstream education and that they will be all right. If they were all right in the first instance, with the generous allocations of learning support and resources, they would not be in this situation so it would be a misnomer to make that case.

Another interesting aspect to this proposal has been revealed. My colleague, Senator Fidelma Healy Eames, did a case study on a school in Galway, which found that if a special class is removed, as is proposed in this instance, the cost to the State in learning support in terms of SNAs and a range of needed supports for the children with particular needs in mainstream classes will exceed the cost of the provision of the special class. The removal of the class is not sustainable on financial adjustment grounds, and God knows that would be a questionable area in which to seek to save money, nor is it sustainable on educational grounds. I say that from my knowledge of the area as a public representative, of the teachers in the school and the pupils who have benefited from it and from my knowledge of having been a primary teacher and being acutely aware of the needs in this area. I taught in a school in Cavan town that had two special classes at one stage. The pupils in the special classes not only suffer from one difficulty but from a multiplicity of intellectual, physical, emotional and behavioural difficulties, which make their case particularly difficult.

This proposal will not be successful as a cost-cutting exercise. I can think of no other possible rationalisation for it. If it were argued that the reason for the proposal is to mainstream all pupils and put them on a similar footing, that has already been tried with each of these pupils. That is done where it is appropriate. These pupils were only moved to these special classes when all the normal supports had failed. It is not always supportive for a young student to be removed from or to be left in a high achieving mainstream class. Such pupils can experience a sense of failure if they are left in a mainstream class even when they receive support in particular instances. There is a certain dynamic in special classes. People who have attended them have lived a very fulfilled existence in adult life. I cannot see the merit of an argument to remove the class on either of those grounds.

The children who attend these special classes have increased confidence. They have a good foundation in academic and social education and the life skills aspect is important. They are confident to participate in society. The money in providing these special classes has been well spent. It enhances pupils' self-esteem, social development and all aspects of life. From my observation and experience, I found that self-esteem is an important factor for such pupils and it can best be inculcated from a special class setting. In special classes the class size is reduced, there is one to one teaching in a small group setting, differentiation between the pupils' needs, speech and language support and liaison with personnel from other disciplines, such as occupational therapists, physiotherapists, social workers and psychologists. Therefore, there is an integrated approach to teaching, which is necessary.

In St. Anne's primary school there are two special classes, which have been in existence since 1974, and they have represented good value. Many of the pupils who attended them have gone on to complete the leaving certificate etc. The Minister of State has a commitment to such issues and I know he will give this matter serious consideration. A serious point to note is that a pupil's enrolment in a special class occurs as result of a professional assessment carried out by a psychologist from the national education psychological service in whom the Department of Education and Science has invested responsibility. Therefore, the recommendation is not lightly made — it is made only when the psychologist is satisfied that mainstream education is not an appropriate placement for the pupil concerned. Therefore, the pupil needs such intervention.

I can make available to the Minister the analysis done by my colleague, Senator Healy Eames, based on Scoil Mhuire. She is an educationalist, a primary teacher and she has lectured in a teacher training college. She costed such a proposal and she clearly delineated in that analysis the new costs that would be associated with what I believe would be an unsuccessful attempt to mainstream the pupils in question. I would like the Minister to examine that analysis.

We must be careful in this respect. We all have a duty in a democracy and all of us in this Parliament have a duty to rectify the ills of the country by a method that is not at the expense of the weak and the vulnerable. I can think of nobody more vulnerable than the children in these classes who have not succeeded in mainstream education with the provision of support and whom it is proposed will be taken out of one of these special classes. It is not sustainable that that should happen. Furthermore, it is not sustainable to have pupils ranging from seven years to 14 years in the same class.

I appeal to the Minister to examine St. Anne's case and the maintenance of the two special classes. If he does that, he will save money and will do the right thing by the people there.

I am taking this Adjournment matter on behalf of my colleague, the Minister for Education and Science, Deputy Batt O'Keeffe. I am pleased to have the opportunity, provided by Senator O'Reilly, to deal with the matter.

The Senator will be well aware that allocations to schools typically increase or decrease depending on pupil enrolment. In the case of special classes for pupils with a mild general learning disability, the normal pupil-teacher ratio is 11:1. The Department allows for a small reduction in this number and permits schools to retain a teaching post where it has a minimum of nine pupils in the class. The school in question has two special classes and the enrolment totals 14. The minimum enrolment required to retain the second class has therefore not been fulfilled and the school no longer qualifies to retain the second special class.

In the case of 128 classes in 119 schools, the number of pupils dropped below this minimum. These schools therefore are no longer entitled to retain the teaching posts in these classes. All the 119 schools from which the teaching posts are being removed received allocations under the general allocation model of teaching support. These schools therefore have been resourced for the categories of pupils in question.

It is important to note that 3,000 schools that do not have special classes for pupils with mild general learning disability meet the needs of these children through mainstream classes and the use of their general allocation teaching resources. Furthermore, some schools in recent years voluntarily disbanded their mild classes and mainstreamed the pupils, with the associated loss of the mild special class post.

The pupils from the 128 classes will be placed in mainstream classes and will receive support from their class teacher. All of them will benefit from the support available through the schools general allocation model. As I said, the other primary schools in the country that do not have classes for children with mild general learning disability cater for these pupils from within the general allocation model.

As the Minister stated, he is open to listening to proposals from schools in which they demonstrate that it is educationally more beneficial for the pupils involved to be in a special class of their own rather than to be integrated with their peers and supported by the mainstream classroom teacher and the learning resource teacher. I understand that correspondence has been received in the Department from the school in relation to the mild class, and officials will be in direct contact with it shortly in this regard.

There has been unprecedented investment in recent years in providing supports for children with special needs. There are now about 19,000 adults in our schools working solely with children with special needs. There are more than 8,000 resource and learning support teachers compared with 2,000 in 1998. More than 1,000 other teachers support children in our special schools. Some 76 classes for children with mild general learning disability are being retained where there are nine children or more in these classes

I take this opportunity to emphasise that priority will continue to be given to provision for children with special educational needs. As I stated, the establishment of these classes for mild general learning disability pre-date many of the developments in special education policy in recent years and we now have a system of providing schools with supports for children with high incidence special needs through the general allocation model.

I thank the Minister of State for his reply. The one hopeful aspect is in the third paragraph, which states that the Department officials will look at the case in hand. Children are coming in from a number of schools in the area. They have been considered in the normal allocation and the difficulty is that it is not a runner to have children aged seven and 14 in the one class. There is a very well developed special class in this school and it is the only such location in east Cavan. I again appeal to the Minister to look specifically at this case and at individual pupils. Those who have to go back to their own schools will not be able to manage in those environments. For that reason I ask the Minister and his officials to look seriously at that. I hope there is some ray of hope in that the Department officials will be in contact with the school.

Alcohol Abuse.

I want to address the need for the Minister for Health and Children to contact her counterparts in the North and the Scottish Parliament to exchange ideas on how to curb the abuse of alcohol with its associated health and economic costs. I raise this specifically because the Scottish Parliament has highlighted the issue of alcohol abuse and misuse. That Parliament in recent times prioritised this as one of its key issues. It realised that Scottish alcohol consumption rates are very high as reflected in the significant economic costs from attendances at accident and emergency departments and in terms of the long-term illnesses associated with alcohol abuse. It has decided that enough is enough and something has to be done about it. I believe that Scotland is in eighth place in Europe in the alcohol consumption league. The Scots are talking about introducing minimum pricing and many types of initiatives.

I consume alcohol and I therefore declare an interest. Perhaps I do not always fulfil the criteria attached to sensible drinking at times, but the problem is that Ireland is ranked first or second with Sweden in the one league we should not be proud of, namely, high consumption of alcohol. The debate about people going to the North to buy cheap alcohol is being monitored by the Minister for Finance. A bottle of whiskey, for example, is said to be about £14 cheaper in the North than it is here and that trend is having a downward spiral on our economy because people who go there to buy alcohol tend to purchase other commodities too, which they bring back.

I am sure the vintners might argue that we should be reducing the price of alcohol to compete with the North. I suggest something completely different, however. I believe we should ask the North and Westminster, because it sets the VAT rates for the UK, to co-operate with Ireland in having the same VAT rate for alcohol — indeed, I would include cigarettes — if that is appropriate as both of those commodities price-driven in terms of where they are bought.

I was on a national radio programme not long ago on which Mr. Jeffrey Donaldson, MLA, was invited to oppose me, but instead he started to agree with me because everybody knows that availability and accessibility are key driving forces in alcohol abuse. Mr. Donaldson and all the other parliamentarians, whether they are based in Westminster, Cardiff, Edinburgh, Belfast or Dublin, realise that our consumption rates are nothing to be proud of. On the economics of people buying alcohol in the North, they tend to purchase far more than they can consume because of the "good deal" factor. However, the expiry dates on such products can be relatively short and therefore considerable amounts may be drunk if the alcohol is to be consumed within specified deadlines.

I am not against alcohol, although I believe we have a major problem in our culture in that regard. The league tables prove we are very successful in the wrong way, in terms of our consumption. If Scotland, which is in eighth place in the league, is very worried about the health consequences for its citizens, social disorder and the cost of policing in this regard, given that Ireland is in second place, surely we should be talking to the Scots about the initiatives they intend to introduce. We should talk to the North about the introduction of such initiatives on an all-island basis and we should consider the option of a single VAT rate for both Ireland and the UK to deal with a very significant health issue.

Perhaps there will be an opportunity at North-South Ministerial Council level to look at mutual dealing in regard to what is a very significant and costly social and justice problem in this country.

I thank Senator Cecilia Keaveney for her great interest in this important issue. She said that we have a problem with the culture and I will begin by discussing the damage caused by alcohol, which is visible throughout Ireland. It is visible on the streets and in courts, hospitals, workplaces, schools and homes. Despite the tendency to blame under-age drinkers, the majority of alcohol harm occurs among the adult population. It manifests itself in street violence, accidents, hospital admissions, drunk driving, alcohol poisoning, suicides, alcohol dependency, cancers and cirrhosis. Some of these problems, especially the acute problems, arise where the light or the moderate drinker drinks to excess on a single drinking occasion, while others result from regular heavy drinking over a long time.

There is a considerable body of evidence which shows not only that policies and interventions targeted at vulnerable populations can prevent alcohol-related harm but that policies targeted at the population at large can have a protective effect. This is the approach taken in the strategic task force on alcohol report of 2004 and it is consistent with the approach recommended by the World Health Organisation, WHO.

Scientific knowledge is developing as regards the strategies that work to reduce alcohol-related harm. The WHO has stated that a combination of strategies should be used to include regulating and restricting the availability of alcohol, regulating the marketing of alcoholic beverages, enactment of appropriate drink-driving policies and implementing screening programmes and brief interventions against hazardous and harmful use of alcohol, for example, in primary care and accident and emergency departments.

The introduction of the Intoxicating Liquor Act 2008 which was conceived and passed within six months has demonstrated the Government's commitment to dealing with alcohol misuse, in particular from the public order perspective. The Act contains provisions in regard to new hours for off-sales of alcohol, tougher public order provisions allowing the gardaí to seize alcohol from minors, a court procedure to secure a new wine-only off-licence and new grounds for objection to the granting of an off-licence and new conditions attaching to the granting of a special exemption.

The Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform is also working on a new code of practice on the sale and display of alcohol with all the main supermarkets and convenience stores. New strengthened codes on alcohol advertising and sponsorship have been in place since last July which control the placement and volume of advertising in all media.

The Senator made an interesting suggestion in regard to common UK and Irish VAT and excise rates. We should look at these issues. North-South co-operation in the health sector has existed for many years and while collaboration between both jurisdictions has been ongoing, it has accelerated in recent years, in particular since the Good Friday Agreement. That Agreement provided for the establishment of a North-South Ministerial Council to bring together those with executive responsibilities in Northern Ireland and in the Government. Health Ministers formally engage on cross-Border issues under the auspices of the North-South Ministerial Council. Its purpose is to develop consultation, co-operation and action within the island of Ireland, including implementation on a North-South and cross-Border basis, on matters of mutual interest and within the competence of each Administration.

Both health Ministers have agreed to undertake a comprehensive study to examine the potential for future co-operation between Northern Ireland and Ireland in the delivery and development of health and social care. The study will provide a strategic framework for the development and implementation of future collaborative work in health and social care services. The study recognises that both jurisdictions face problems associated with the misuse of alcohol and will include recommendations on future collaboration on substance abuse and alcohol related initiatives.

As the Senator outlined, the Scottish Government is advancing proposals to tackle alcohol misuse in Scotland. There has been contact at official level between the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform and Scottish officials in regard to the legislation and policy measures proposed. Such contacts serve to inform and build up expertise which can be mutually beneficial. As a result of the Senator raising the matter, I will make contact with my ministerial counterpart in the Scottish Government with a view to progressing this issue.

The problems associated with alcohol misuse and proposals and initiatives to tackle such problems have been, and will continue to be, a basis for contact and co-operation at the highest levels between Ireland and our counterparts in Northern Ireland and Scotland. I thank the Senator for her interest in this important issue.

I am delighted with the response and the fact that there will be more co-operation. I forgot to commend all those involved in the decision to bring alcohol under the substance misuse strategy, which will replace the national drugs strategy. It will play a part in dealing with the people and the families who suffer the consequences of alcohol abuse. It will have major implications in our community.

I would like more information on the labelling of alcohol products. We were moving towards drink labelling in the same way as we have food labelling. As someone who is permanently on a diet, I can choose to have a high calorie sandwich or meal because it is written on the product, but I cannot choose to have a high calorie or low calorie alcoholic drink. I am aware of one brand, which I will not advertise, which calls itself "Light". It is not light in alcohol content but in calorie content. How far advanced is the issue of alcohol labelling? Will the Minister of State promote the concept of making people aware of healthier options, even when consuming alcohol? If she does not have that information to hand, I will be happy to get it at a later date.

The Senator raised that issue before and we fed it through the channels. There are ongoing discussions in the EU on this important issue but I will raise it again. As the Senator rightly pointed out, it impacts on the alcohol side of the health promotion unit as well as the obesity one. A task force is to report at Easter and every element is being addressed. We will look again at this to see what more can be done.

The Seanad adjourned at 12.55 p.m. until noon on Tuesday, 7 April 2009.
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