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Seanad Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 15 Jul 2014

Vol. 233 No. 4

Adjournment Matters

Social Inclusion Community Activation Programme

I welcome the Minister, Deputy Alan Kelly, and wish him well in his new position. He has taken on a very challenging role. As he is from rural Ireland, I have no doubt that he will ensure the interests of many of the activities in rural areas will be protected. He will be very much aware of the great work being done by various voluntary organisations.

As I am sharing time with my colleague, Senator Susan O'Keeffe, I will be as brief as possible. The facts are well known about the National Collective of Community-based Women's Networks, NCCWN, and the voluntarily managed and led national and local community development programme. The NCCWN has 17 local women's projects, one of which is the north Leitrim women's resource which is the focus of this debate. It has a current budget of €1.3 million and employs staff who engage with almost 37,000 women.

As the Minister is aware, the local and community development programme, LCDP, is to be replaced by the 2015 social inclusion community activation programme, SICAP. The new programme is out to e-tender. However, not all the 17 women's networks have been enabled to participate in a local consortium for the SICAP. Furthermore, disadvantaged women are not named as a target group. Therefore, the work of the network with disadvantaged women is not recognised and does not fit under the programme, at least according to my information. I hope the Minister will be able to reassure the 17 groups but particularly the north Leitrim women's resource.

North Leitrim is an area of very severe economic and social disadvantage. It has a low density population, even within a county that has a low population of 31,000. The bulk of the population is located south or east of Lough Allen, whereas the northern part is much more sparsely populated. As a result, it lacks any type of industrial production and relies to a large extent on tourism, small farmers and the cheque from the European Union. The challenges faced by the Manorhamilton-based group are immense. I understand its severe anxiety in not knowing what will happen to it and its funding in the future. I hope the Minister can provide some reassurance, in view of the very valuable work done by the Manorhamilton group and its sister organisations across the country.

The Minister is very welcome. I congratulate him on his appointment. I appreciate that he has inherited this matter. There has been a great deal of confusion as the new programme is rolled out and perhaps this is an area where confusion was not intended. The women's network of 17 projects around the country employs a number of people and assists approximately 36,000 women. These are women who need quiet, low-key, careful support in all types of areas such as child care, employment, training, counselling, political education and mental health and in dealing with domestic violence. The projects' remit are broad but very low key and well placed. I commend the work the projects do, particularly the project in Manorhamilton which I know very well.

The new social inclusion community activation programme does not have women as one of its target groups. The target groups include lone parents, children and families from disadvantaged areas and people with disabilities. I am reading the answer provided by the Department which the Minister might well give us. I would be extremely grateful if he gave a commitment to carry out a review of the programme, for which a sum of €47 million is earmarked, which is a substantial sum of money which will be well spent across all types of project throughout the country, which is welcome. The projects being discussed cost €1 million and affect 36,500 women. They are in danger of being swept away by something in which they have no foothold and it appears they will not have a foothold because of the way they operate. I do not believe the Minister would like to see this happen.

Sometimes women have to be singled out and supported in their own right and these projects have done this very successfully. That should continue, particularly as we know that every day in Ireland 500 women seek support in dealing with domestic violence alone. These women are in a very high risk category. The women involved in these projects are not in that high-risk category, but they need our support. It is being provided in a very focused way for a very small amount of money. The projects have provided the Department with their value for money details. I urge the Minister to look at them and, rather than give the answer provided by the Department, perhaps promise to see whether there is a role for them within the SICAP. We accept and understand there will be a great deal of activity and many good projects within the SICAP across the country. I pay tribute to the women's programmes and the many other projects being supported by local development community projects in Ireland.

I thank the Senators for giving me this opportunity to update the House on the current position on the new social inclusion and community activation programme, SICAP, and, in particular, the position of the North Leitrim Women's Centre and the National Collective of Community-based Women's Networks under the programme.

The proposals outlined in Putting People First - Action Programme for Effective Local Government seek to position local government "as the primary vehicle of governance and public service at local level - leading economic, social and community development, delivering efficient and good value services, and representing citizens and local communities effectively and accountably". As part of the programme of reform of local government, local community development committees are being established in all local authority areas. These committees, comprising public-private socio-economic interests, will have responsibility for local and community development programmes on an area basis, including the social inclusion and community activation programme. They will develop, co-ordinate and implement a more coherent and integrated approach to local and community development than heretofore, with the aim of reducing duplication and overlap and optimising the use of available resources for the benefit of citizens and communities.

The SICAP is a key priority of the Government and its budget for next year will be decided in the 2015 Estimates process. In accordance with the public spending code, good practice internationally, legal advice and in order to ensure the optimum delivery of services to clients, the programme will be subject to a public procurement process, which is under way. The closing date for receipt of expressions of interest in stage 1 of the process was noon last Friday, 11 July.

The public procurement process is a competitive one open to local development companies, other not-for-profit community groups, commercial firms and national organisations such as the NCCWN that can provide the services to be tendered for to deliver the new programme. Joint applications are encouraged and organisations of varying sizes, for example, smaller organisations such as North Leitrim Women's Centre, working in consortia with larger organisations, were invited to submit joint applications. Partner candidates have a role in the delivery and implementation of the programme. All such partner candidates must be identified in the qualification questionnaire and a contracting arrangement may be required between the lead candidate and any partner candidate. Candidates may rely on the resources of other entities in order to satisfy the suitability requirements on condition that they can prove to the satisfaction of Pobal that they will have these resources at their disposal, when necessary.

Applicants in stage 1 of the tendering process must demonstrate that they meet the criteria for the delivery of services in the lots applied for. A total of 31 lots are being offered for tender, based on local authority areas. In some cases, these may be divided into smaller units in stage 2 of the process which will get under way in early September.

In summary, it was possible for the NCCWN to apply to deliver the service in a county or counties and the North Leitrim Women's Centre had the option of partnering with another body to deliver the service in County Leitrim. I am satisfied that the procurement process under way is in line with good practice and that the procurement documentation on e-Tenders contains all of the relevant information on the process.

I look forward to the outcome of the procurement process towards the end of the year and the roll-out of the SICAP in January 2015.

Interestingly enough, when it was originally established by the LCDP, the then Government made specific arrangements for the National Collective of Community-based Women's Networks because it was recognised that the position of disadvantaged women would be diluted in a mix of this nature. I do not see why we are doing what the then Government tried to avoid. The North Leitrim Women's Centre and the National Collective of Community-based Women's Networks state they have explored the relevant avenue and that the networks, etc., are not all in a position to become part of local consortia in their areas. In other words, they do not have other organisations on to which they might hold and because they do not constitute a target group in their own right, they are lost. We risk losing them and their work. In such circumstances, I ask the Minister to reconsider the position.

I return to the point about density of population. We are talking about what is essentially a small group in a relatively lowly populated area. Senator Susan O'Keeffe is absolutely correct in what she says. Will the Minister provide some assurance that this structure which has developed over many years will not disappear and that there will be some funding available for the group in question to continue the work it is doing? He referred to 31 lots based in local authority areas. Does this mean that money will be made available specifically for the activities of the current group in County Leitrim? I appreciate that the Minister only assumed responsibility for his portfolio in recent days. At the same time, however, we are concerned with a small county which is trying to retain services and also fighting against the flow, particularly in population numbers. I do not want to sound as if I am crying about this matter, but Senator Susan O'Keeffe and I are merely outlining the unfortunate reality of life in County Leitrim. Will the Minister give a commitment to protect the particular group we are discussing and provide it with some assurance that it can continue the good work it is doing?

I thank the Senators for appreciating the fact that I only inherited responsibility for this matter in recent days. I do not know who tendered for the contract and neither would it be appropriate for me to know. I am also not aware whether the groups in question submitted tenders, either individually or as part of consortia. The Senators have identified an issue with specific women's groups which I will bring to the attention of the officials in my Department in order that they might investigate the position further. The process must be completed on the basis of the criteria laid down. I will examine the matter further, but I must see the process through in the first instance. We will see what the outcome is. If, on the basis of that outcome, there is a need to revisit the matter, we may possibly be able to do so.

Cancer Screening Programmes

I welcome the new Minister for Health, Deputy Leo Varadkar, and wish him all the best in his new role.

As his understudy in this House in the area of transport, I appreciate the Minister's grasp of relevant issues. I know he will do a good job in his new position.

I welcome the Minister and congratulate him on taking up his new portfolio. Many are inclined to forget that he is a qualified GP. However, I do not do so because he graduated on the same day as my son. I know he will have a good grasp of the health portfolio.

Many years ago I was actively involved in a campaign to have the BreastCheck service rolled out to the southern region, particularly counties Cork and Kerry. I spent many a wet Saturday on the streets of towns and villages in County Kerry getting both men and women to sign petitions. They were very eager to sign because they were anxious to have the BreastCheck service extended to the region. As the Minister knows, it was eventually rolled out to it. Many of my friends are indebted to BreastCheck as a result of their breast cancer being detected early. Some of them have informed me that their tumours were only about the size of the head of a pin when detected, which meant that they were only obliged to undergo lumpectomies because the cancer had not spread to the lymph glands. As a result, they did not require chemotherapy and all have recovered. I hope they will all remain in remission.

The Irish Cancer Society has indicated that for every 500 women screened, at least one life will be saved. I argue that the figure is even higher than this, particularly in view of the number of women I meet in whom breast cancer has been detected by BreastCheck. However, the Irish Cancer Society is the expert in this area and the figure to which I refer is the one it has supplied. One woman in ten will contract cancer during her lifetime. As the Minister is well aware, BreastCheck screens women in the 50 to 64 year age group every two years. The programme for Government contains a commitment to extend the BreastCheck service to women aged 65 to 69 years. I ask the Minister to not allow this to be perceived as a broken promise, as a failure to extend the service will cost us more in the long term. The sooner breast cancer can be detected, the less treatment women will require. If it is not detected early, the women involved will need long-term care plans which can be quite costly.

I ask that the extension of the BreastCheck service to women aged between 65 and 69 years be approved without further delay. As stated, the Minister should not allow this to become a broken promise and oblige us to organise another campaign. As we promised the extension, let us deliver it.

I thank the Senator for her kind words and welcome the opportunity to speak about the proposed extension of the BreastCheck programme to include women aged 65 to 69 years. BreastCheck, the national breast screening programme, offers free mammograms every two years to women aged 50 to 64 years. It is now in its 15th year of screening and has provided almost 1 million mammograms for just over 400,000 women. Approximately 6,350 cancers have been detected through the service. The programme for Government contains a commitment to extend the BreastCheck programme to 65 to 69 year old women in line with EU guidelines. I can confirm that I intend to extend the upper age range to include women in the 65 to 69 year age cohort as soon as the requisite resources can be procured.

A priority of BreastCheck is to maximise the national uptake in the 50 to 64 year age group. As outlined in the recently published BreastCheck report for the period 2012 to 2013, 71.4% of eligible women invited for screening accepted their invitations. As the target in this regard is 70%, it has been exceeded. However, acceptance rates among those invited for the first time have fallen to 66.4%, which is a source of some concern. In the light of these figures, I welcome the current BreastCheck advertising campaign which aims to boost uptake rates and urges all women to take the time to do something very important for themselves by availing of the invitation to have mammograms. At a minimum, this will give some peace of mind, but it might also just be crucial in identifying cancers at an early and more easily treatable stage.

The HSE's national screening service operates three other population-based screening programmes, in addition to BreastCheck. These are CervicalCheck, the national cervical screening programme which provides free smear tests for women between the ages of 25 and 60 years; BowelScreen, the national bowel screening programme which commenced nationwide in late 2012 for men and women aged 60 to 69 years and for which an additional €2 million was provided for its continued development in the HSE's national service plan for 2014; and Diabetic RetinaScreen which commenced in February 2013 and will be offered to people aged 12 years and over with diagnosed diabetes who are registered with the programme. An additional €4.5 million has been allocated for the continued implementation of Diabetic RetinaScreen in the HSE's national service plan for 2014.

Breast screening is one element of the comprehensive cancer care programme. As part of its work across the full range of cancers, the HSE's national cancer control programme provides symptomatic breast clinics at each of the eight cancer centres and a further satellite clinic in Letterkenny. Breast cancer survival rates in Ireland have improved significantly in recent years owing to a combined approach of screening, symptomatic detection and improved treatment.

The five-year survival rate for breast cancer is now estimated at 84.9% for people diagnosed between 2005 and 2009. This is a most encouraging figure and shows a significant improvement from the figure of 75.1% for those diagnosed between 1994 and 1999. I welcome the progress being made, not just to the benefit of the people directly concerned but also to their families, friends and wider communities.

I thank the Minister for his reply. Can he give an indication as to when we should expect the extension of the scheme to this particular age group? I very much welcome the advances in the cancer screening regime, which is having a significant impact in terms of earlier detections. The diabetic retinal screening programme that was launched last year is another welcome development. I acknowledge the difficult reality of limited resources, but the bottom line is that these schemes save money in the long run. Will the extension of BreastCheck be rolled out this year, as promised, or does the Minister have expectations for next year? If not, is it likely to happen at all in the lifetime of this Government? I am sure the Minister will refer to budgets in his reply, but I urge him to examine how the funding can be found for this very important programme.

Nobody disputes the science in terms of the benefits of extending BreastCheck to women aged 65 to 69. However, as the Senator acknowledged, budgetary considerations must figure. Unfortunately, as these things always are, it a question of money. While there may be long-term savings deriving from an extension of the screening programme, the money needed to implement that extension must be found upfront. To take the funding from existing resources would most likely require its diversion from patients who are currently diagnosed. Taking resources away from those already receiving treatment for an illness in order to extend screening to those who might have an illness is not something I could stand over.

Having said that, we have costed the extension of the scheme, and the figure for 2015, at some €200,000, is actually not that high. However, because we would need to expand the units, build new centres and so on, that cost would rise in 2016 to almost €6 million, which is a much more significant figure. It is an issue of which I am very aware and I am pleased the Senator has brought it to the forefront of my attention in my first week in office. I absolutely see the logic behind her proposal for an extension and it is something I absolutely want to implement. I will do so if the resources are available, but I cannot do it at the expense of treating people who are already diagnosed. I am sure Senators will understand why that is the case.

Trade Relations

I welcome the new Minister of State at the Department of Education and Skills, Deputy Damien English, on his debut appearance in the Seanad.

I, too, welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Damien English, and congratulate him on his promotion, which is richly deserved. He is one of the few Members on the Government side who regularly makes the trek, as I often do, out to Ballymount. Anybody who is willing to go a few rounds with Vincent is more than able for the job the Minister of State has just been given. As Seanad spokesman on education for my party, our swords will undoubtedly cross at times, but I look forward to working with him and wish him well for the future.

I have tabled this Adjournment matter to highlight the need for Ireland to re-establish its representative office in Taipei, given the significant potential for greater economic and cultural links between this country and Taiwan. I recently visited Taiwan as part of an Oireachtas delegation and was hugely impressed by the country's economic progress, respect for human rights and high-quality health service.

Economically, Taiwan is doing extremely well. Indeed, from 1952 to 2012, it achieved an average annual economic growth rate of 7.3%, one of the fastest growth rates in the world. While that rate has slowed in recent years in the context of the wider economic environment and the impact of the global financial downturn, the international economic crisis has had a much lighter impact on Taiwan than on other developed economies, including our own. The country's unemployment rate is below 4% and the proportion of people living below the poverty line is 1.5%.

Taiwan also has a world-class health service, with a national insurance system far superior to the Dutch model the Government seems intent on emulating. This is an issue I intend to raise with the new Minister for Health, who has just left the Chamber. It is an excellent system based on compulsory health insurance, with everybody paying into the system through the taxation regime. There are no private providers competing for insurance premia, as is expected in our system. Instead, competition is at the point of delivery, with providers competing to provide services and thereby helping to ensure costs are kept as low as possible. The Taiwanese authorities have managed to eliminate waiting lists in the system and provide a top-class service. There is much we can learn from their experience.

In recent years, Taiwan has become one of Asia's main providers of foreign direct investment, ranking only behind Japan, mainland China, Hong Kong and Singapore. The opportunities for Irish export companies are immense. Food companies, in particular, could find a huge market there. During our visit to Taiwan we discovered that although it currently imports much of its beef from the United States, there is an awareness of the superiority of Irish beef as a result of the conditions in which cattle are reared and the rules in regard to feed and so on. The Taiwanese would like to import Irish beef but it requires a broader trade agreement to facilitate that. More generally, there is scope for a range of Irish enterprises to build business partnerships with local companies which would help them to succeed not only in Taiwan but also in mainland China and Asia. In other words, Taiwan could potentially be a significant gateway for Irish companies into Asia.

There is also great potential to encourage more tourism from Taiwan. The last Government introduced in a 90-day visa waiver for Taiwanese tourists, which allows them to visit Ireland without having to go through the administrative rigmarole of obtaining a visa. However, the number of tourists coming here is still very small. The reason may well be that there is very little on-the-ground promotion of Ireland as a tourist destination. There is no office there selling Ireland as a place Taiwanese people should visit.

There is also considerable potential to attract more Taiwanese students to our third level colleges and English language schools. The potential is there, too, for greater cultural links between the two countries. As part of our visit, we attended the very successful Irish dancing school in Taipei. It was interesting to see Taiwanese men and women enjoying Irish dancing, including competitively.

As I have outlined, there are opportunities for closer co-operation on many different levels, but Ireland is not realising those opportunities. One of the main inhibiting factors is the impact of the closure of the former representative office some years ago as part of the broader reduction in the number of embassies. Earlier this year the Government reopened the Vatican Embassy and opened new embassies in other countries. It is time now to examine the case for reopening the Taiwanese office. Eighteen other EU countries have representative offices there, in addition to the EU office. One of the main benefits of this presence is the monthly meeting between the representatives of the various offices and the EU office to discuss trade opportunities. We are missing out on that by having no representation. I urge the Minister of State to use any influence he has with the Minister for Foreign Affairs to ensure the office in Taipei is reopened.

I thank the Acting Chairman for his kind words. I was in the Gallery of this Chamber only last week thinking I would not mind being in here some day. I did not expect it to happen so soon and in this capacity. It is funny how things turn out. I also thank Senator Power for her warm words. I have enjoyed our time working together on the education committee. No doubt we will still be making trips out to Uncle Vincent; I am sure I will not escape that particular task in my new role. Those engagements help to keep all of us on our toes, which is no harm.

Turning to the issue before us, I am taking this matter on behalf of the Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, Deputy Charles Flanagan, and the Minister of State, Deputy Sean Sherlock, both of whom are sorry they cannot be here. I will convey the Senator's points to them. It is an issue in which I have an interest. In fact, I had initially intended to be part of the Oireachtas delegation to Taiwan and was sorry I missed it. It sounds like a very interesting place and a very positive experience.

Ireland, along with all EU trade partners, adheres to the One-China policy and, as a result, cannot have diplomatic relations with Taiwan. This, however, does not preclude the development of economic and trade relations. There was an Irish trade office in Taipei from 1989 until 2011, opened originally under the auspices of IBEC and with funding primarily provided by IDA Ireland. The decision to close it in 2011 was taken by IDA Ireland on a purely commercial basis. The State agencies keep their allocation of resources under review in order to promote Ireland's economic interests as effectively as possible.

Reopening a trade office in Taiwan may be considered by the State agencies if a commercial case could be made for it. The Senator has made a strong case and I will ask that it be considered.

The Government has made extensive efforts to boost trade with China, including the official visit by now President Xi Jinping to Ireland in 2012, followed by the return visits to China by the Taoiseach and then the Tánaiste in 2012 and 2013. Vice Premier Ma Kai visited Ireland in November 2013 and last month saw another high-level visit by Liu Yunshan, a leading member of the Politburo Standing Committee of the Communist Party of China. Total trade in goods and services between Ireland and China amounted to approximately €8 billion in 2012.

Ireland's trade with Taiwan is substantial, particularly with regard to services. In 2013, merchandise trade amounted to €344 million. Of that, exports amounted to €130 million and imports to €214 million. Trade in services in 2012 was €585 million, with €504 million in exports and €81 million in imports. The Government is keen to continue building such trade relations and promoting other commercial links. For example, the possibility of concluding a double taxation agreement between Ireland and Taiwan is being examined.

Regarding other ongoing engagements, Taiwan has been included in Ireland's working holiday programme since 2012. Ireland and EU partners have also supported, where appropriate, Taiwan's observerships at the multilateral level and there are regular exchanges at working groups and other forums. Ireland contributes to the regular and comprehensive EU dialogue with Taiwan.

Relations between China and Taiwan have improved markedly of late, with the first official talks between the two sides since 1949 taking place in February 2014 in Nanjing, China, and return talks in Taipei in June. The Government welcomes this development.

Ireland is opening three new missions in Thailand, Indonesia and Hong Kong this year, demonstrating its commitment to building relations with Asia. Trade with Asia is worth €23 billion annually and the region will continue to be the driver of the global economy in the years ahead. I thank the Senator for her comments and interest and I will brief the two Ministers accordingly.

I thank the Minister of State for his reply and his assurance that he will raise the matter with the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade. He stated that the decision to close the IDA office was made on commercial grounds, but there are strong commercial reasons to reopen it. The 2013 trade figures represent a drop in the ocean compared with what we could be achieving in Taiwan. It is a shame.

I also noted the Minister of State's reference to Ireland's one-China policy, which seems to be making us reticent about developing closer links with Taiwan. That is also a shame. The policy has not stopped 18 other European countries from having representative offices in Taiwan. We should embrace Taiwan. As the Minister of State noted, relations between China and Taiwan are improving. We should not be reticent about stepping up, supporting the Taiwanese people and developing closer links.

While there, I was most struck by Taiwan's respect for human rights. It is strong on freedom of expression and belief and protects its people's human rights in ways that, unfortunately, have not yet reached mainland China. As a country that has always promoted human rights in its foreign policy, we should support Taiwan in every way possible in that respect.

I urge the Minister of State to bring my points to the attention of the Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade. I also urge the Government to send a trade delegation to examine the commercial arguments for reopening an office. It would be significant if a Minister or Minister of State was sent with representatives from the IDA or Enterprise Ireland to examine the environment and opportunities before making an informed decision on how to proceed.

I thank the Senator and will bring her comments to the Minister's attention. It is important that Ministers of State engage with the Senator and those of her colleagues who have visited Taiwan. Apart from trade, the Senator also mentioned the culture and dancing. Perhaps we could take the matter from there. I will brief the Ministers on her valid arguments, which are worth considering. Perhaps we could co-ordinate a message with the Senator and her colleagues who have travelled there in the past three or four years and get some feedback.

I apologise for the Minister, who is not able to attend.

SOLAS Funding

I congratulate the Minister of State in this public forum and wish him every success in his job. I do not doubt that he will prove himself as capable a Minister of State as he is a Deputy. I welcome him to the House for this debate.

The Minister of State might be aware of the briefing given last week in the Houses that was led by students from the National Learning Network who were participating in SOLAS-funded training courses. As a result of budget 2014, they have suffered a €20 reduction in their weekly training allowance since 1 July. The participants at the briefing outlined the negative impact of the reduction and what €20 meant to them. When a person is living on just €188 per week, €20 is a significant amount. They brought their message home to us. For one, €20 meant the difference between a healthy diet and an unhealthy diet. Reversing the cut would improve her lifestyle and reduce the cost to the State in health care.

Another student spoke emotionally about how any reduction in the training allowance would have a negative impact on his mental health. He valued work and the positive effect of SOLAS on his life. His appeal to have his dignity respected was heartfelt.

Some 6,300 people are affected by the reduction, amounting to €6.5 million per year. While I understand the Government's need to reduce the debt burden, it is difficult to appreciate this reduction, which affects the well-being of vulnerable people in an unequal way. The modest nominal cost savings of €6.5 million can be achieved elsewhere in the budget. As has been proven in many countries, if we invest in our young and their education, we would save money in health care and mental health care in the long run. The Minister of State is barely in the hot seat. When he catches his breath, will he revisit this reduction? We need to encourage, support and invest in the professional futures of SOLAS students.

Despite SOLAS having a high success rate, with 90% of students continuing on to further education, if they can afford it, or employment, I was concerned when some of the students last week mentioned the dropout rate, which was mainly due to financial issues. I appeal to the Minister of State to support SOLAS students and to help those struggling to afford training courses by examining the level of investment in SOLAS-funded programmes. Investment in SOLAS is an investment in our people and economy. It was evident from the trainees' stories that the courses were invaluable in allowing people to return to work, giving them confidence, ensuring better mental health and providing a community of support.

I thank the Senator for her kind words and look forward to working with her. As she is a colleague from the north east, it is a pleasure to engage with her on this issue during my first official appearance. I hope to be able to work with her on it in future. We must cover many issues. I am sorry, but I missed last week's briefing due to a clash with a meeting of my former committee. I would be interested in meeting a select group of those participants to discuss this matter. The Senator and I will have a chat about it. I would be keen to discuss the dropout rate.

The payment of an additional training allowance of €31.80 per week for the long-term unemployed was introduced during a period of high employment as an incentive for them to participate in FÁS training courses. This allowance was later extended to those persons in receipt of social welfare disability payments to introduce equality of treatment for all people in training. The payment was reduced from €31.80 per week to €20 per week as part of budget 2011. In the present economic situation this incentive is no longer considered appropriate and, as part of budget 2014, it was decided to cease it for all SOLAS participants commencing courses after 1 January 2014. This change does not apply to persons who commenced a course prior to January 2014 and they will continue to receive the long-term unemployed bonus payment for the duration of their courses.

Various allowances and additional payments were generated during the Celtic tiger years when we had a great deal of money. These allowances were introduced at that time, and rightly so, but the tax stream to back them up was not put in place. Now that the tax receipts are much lower, there is less tax to go round and changes must be made. However, travel supports continue to be available to SOLAS participants, including people with a disability. The additional training allowance was never intended to address the cost of participation in training. The nature of the payment as an incentive rather than as a measure intended to meet the cost of participation is demonstrated by the fact that it was not available to all people in receipt of payments from the Department of Social Protection, which would have been the case if it were intended to meet meal and travel costs.

This reflects the entirely different employment situation that now pertains, as well as the very difficult budgetary position the Government is in while we endeavour to protect the overall level of provision of education and training. It is hoped that participants see the value in education and training as a gateway to employment and will continue to participate in high-quality, relevant and well-designed programmes. I accept that people are under immense pressure at all times to survive on the social welfare payment, whether they attend a course or not. I can understand it would have been a major help to have that additional allowance, but the problem is to try to balance the books overall. As I have said, I am happy to meet them to discuss the issue with them. There is no scope to revisit this decision against a very difficult budgetary background in which continued savings are required in education and training while we protect the overall level of service that the sector provides.

The further education and training sector is undergoing major structural reform. In reforming the structures in further education and training, FET, we undertook a critical examination of the overall further education and training sector. Following consultation with stakeholders and the development of a strategy for a co-ordinated FET sector, the second half of last year saw the establishment of 16 education and training boards to replace 33 VECs, and the establishment of SOLAS to bring strategic direction to the sector. I am glad to say that at this stage all former FÁS training provision has been transferred to the education and training boards. The education and training boards will play a key role in ensuring the provision of 21st-century high-quality further education and training programmes. Any future policy development and legislation in the further education and training sector will be guided by the principles outlined in the five-year strategy document recently published by SOLAS.

The overall funding allocation for the Department of Education and Skills is determined as part of the annual budgetary process and the funding allocation is subsequently decided upon in that context, having considered priorities and requirements across the wider education sector. SOLAS will be responsible for allocating funding to the respective education and training boards in that regard. It will then be a matter for each education and training board to manage its resources annually.

I thank Senator Moran for raising this issue with me. As she said, I just inherited the brief a few hours ago. I am just reading into it and I want to assure her that I will work on these issues and will meet some of these people to discuss the issues with them.

I thank the Minister of State for his response. I appreciate and will take him up on his offer to meet some of the people from the National Learning Network who are directly involved. I appreciate that the Minister of State is only in his role a few hours, but as spokesperson for education on this side of the House I want to ensure we have plenty to talk about.

I thank the Minister of State for attending and, as I said, we were not too hard on him on his first day in the job.

The Seanad adjourned at 10.25 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 16 July 2014.
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