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Dáil Éireann Debate, Tuesday - 14 February 2012

Tuesday, 14 February 2012

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Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin

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59Deputy Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin asked the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs if she has received the report of the Garda Inspectorate on Garda investigations of sexual offences against children; if she is addressing on an ongoing basis together with the Department of Justice the shortcomings identified in the report, including turf wars between the Health Service Executive and the Garda allegations of abuse not being investigated quickly enough thus compromising child safety and poor record keeping with up to 65% of sex crimes against children reported to the Garda in recent years not captured in the figures; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [8501/12]

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I can confirm that I have received a copy of the report referred to in the Deputy's question. The report was prepared by the Garda Inspectorate. It was submitted to my colleague, the Minister for Justice and Equality, who published it. I wish to make it clear that there is no "turf war" between the HSE and the Garda Síochána on the issue of sexual offences against children, nor is such a contention contained in the report of the Garda Inspectorate. This issue can be placed in its proper context by quoting directly from the report, which "recognises that turf issues will inevitably arise when work begins on a multi disciplinary response to child abuse". That is the context in which the phrase "turf issues" was used. The report refers to possible "turf" issues in a general sense. This statement was not aimed directly at the HSE or the Garda authorities.

I am satisfied that the HSE and the Garda Síochána are totally committed to addressing the issue of child protection in a co-operative manner. That has been my experience since I became Minister for Children and Youth Affairs. Clear leadership is being shown at a senior level within the HSE and the Garda Síochána. The need for close co-operation on child protection matters is being promoted throughout both organisations. The Garda Inspectorate report acknowledges "there is no doubting the declared commitments of the (then) OMCYA, the Garda Síochána and the HSE to the protection of children from abuse".

Having read the report, Deputy Ó Caoláin will be aware that it places a strong emphasis on inter-agency co-operation and the sharing of information. This is critical. It is why a strong emphasis on the development of inter-agency co-operation and the sharing of information has been included in the Government programme. That will underpin the legislation. There have been very positive developments since the report of the Garda Inspectorate came out. There is no doubt that many of the recommendations that were made in the report have been implemented. The new Children First guidelines have been drawn up and a new cross-departmental group, on which the Garda is represented, has been established. The Garda has taken many initiatives with which the Deputy is familiar, for example, an assistant commissioner has been placed in charge of this area and extensive training has been provided within the force. In recent weeks and months, the Garda has been providing updated training on the new children first guidelines, interview suites have come into operation and joint training for the interviewing of young victims has been provided jointly by the Health Service Executive and Garda Síochána.

Members of the Garda, HSE staff and I were present at meetings held around the country recently, which were attended by hundreds of front line social workers. While there is always room for improvements in this area, I am satisfied that good co-operation is taking place and that there is a strong commitment at the highest levels of the Garda Síochána and Health Service Executive to ensure child protection issues are prioritised.

The report of the Garda Inspectorate was commissioned in 2009 by a former Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform. Following its presentation to the then Minister in late 2010, it was not made public, allegedly owing to so-called legal constraints. Will the Minister advise the House as to the reason we had to wait for so long before the report was placed in the public domain? What legal constraints prevented its publication at the time? Does the Minister consider the report shocking? I find it shocking because it has thrown light on the fact that only slightly more than one third of the child sexual abuse cases reported to the Garda have found their way into the figures released by the Garda across its 112 districts. This finding calls into question all of the statistics on child sexual abuse across the State.

A question also arises in respect of the time factor involved in Garda investigation and address of cases that are reported. This must be a matter of concern because failure to address cases in which an offender is involved places not only the children involved at further risk but also places other children at risk.

I do not have information on the reason the previous Government did not publish the report. I understand the points Deputy Ó Caoláin makes as it is extremely important that cases are acted upon with the greatest possible urgency and priority. It is also important to recognise the changes that have taken place. In recent years, the Garda has attached a high priority to work in this area. For example, Garda policy now specifies the immediate creation of a PULSE record and requires that front line gardaí know exactly what is required of them in such circumstances.

The Deputy referred to the timeliness of investigations. It is my understanding that the Garda accords a very high priority to the investigation of child sexual abuse and will continue to co-operate with other agencies to ensure investigations are completed as quickly as possible. A high level group has been established involving the Garda and HSE to examine policy and procedures and the manner in which cases are dealt with in this area. This is a positive development.

A number of serious abuse allegations came to my attention recently. I asked the Health Service Executive to investigate and it did so with the Garda. Both organisations are working together closely on the matter.

Given the seriousness of the deficiencies highlighted in the Garda Inspectorate's report, will the Minister ask for an update report on the joint efforts being employed by the Garda and Health Service Executive to address them? It is not sufficient to presume or assume these matters have been dealt with in the manner in which one would expect them to be dealt with. Will the Minister ask that a report on the matter be presented and will she share the report with the House in order that Deputies with responsibility for addressing issues relating to children are kept informed?

The Minister referred to a Garda assistant commissioner. One of the recommendations of the inspectorate's report was that a Garda assistant commissioner be given special responsibility for child protection. Has that step been taken? The Minister can confirm that such is the case. Could the Minister circulate the information on the holder of that responsibility at her convenience?

That action has been taken. It is reasonable that Deputy Ó Caoláin would request a response to the various recommendations that were in the report and I would be happy to get the response and give him the information on the action that has been taken on the main recommendations of the report.

Question No. 60 answered with Question No. 58.

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