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Petroleum and Gas Exploration

Dáil Éireann Debate, Wednesday - 17 July 2013

Wednesday, 17 July 2013

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Tom Fleming

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5. Deputy Tom Fleming asked the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources if he will review and revise the royalties and levies agreement that allow supra-normal profits on any future oil and gas finds off our coast as evidence of recent test drillings are very positive and the speculation is that locations of these drills may prove to be most viable and lucrative; if he will provide an update on his Department's recent communications with the oil drilling companies; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [35676/13]

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As stated in the Deputy’s question, suggestions of viable, lucrative and supra-normal profit generating finds are speculative. This type of speculation is regrettably inconsistent - I wish it were not - with experience to date.

In over 40 years of exploration there have been four commercial natural gas discoveries in the Irish offshore, namely, the Kinsale, Ballycotton and Seven Heads producing gas fields off the coast of Cork and the Corrib gas field off the coast of North Mayo, which has not been brought ashore yet. There have been no commercial discoveries of oil to date, although one would never think that with some of the commentary.

In 2011 alone the Norwegian authorities approved 11 new oil-gas production facilities. The employment, economic and fiscal dividend from oil and gas that is enjoyed by Norway is the product of nearly 60 years of oil and gas production based on proven prospectivity.

There has been a modest but welcome increase in the level of interest in oil and gas exploration off our coast in recent years, yet the fact remains that the Irish offshore is relatively under-explored and its petroleum potential is largely unproven. Ireland’s focus needs to be on how to encourage an increase in the level of exploration drilling. The Dunquin well, which is being drilled by ExxonMobil on Frontier Exploration Licence 3/04, will be the only well spudded in the Irish offshore in either 2012 or 2013.

Over the years Ireland, along with many other countries, has continually reviewed, adapted and evolved its regulatory and fiscal terms to ensure they remain fit for purpose, and that process will continue. As I stated during the recent debate on the report of the former Joint Committee on Communications, Natural Resources and Agriculture on the subject of offshore oil and gas exploration, my intention is to seek additional independent expert advice, by year end, on what level of fiscal gain is achievable for the people of Ireland, and the mechanisms best suited to produce such a gain.

In a recent study worldwide it was ascertained that Ireland has the second lowest tax in the world - Cameroon has the lowest tax - on royalty benefits to the State. This is alarming because it has also been reckoned that there is the equivalent of 10 billion barrels of oil reserves off our west coast alone. As the Minister said, much of this is non-viable but if we could extract a fraction of those 10 billion barrels, we would be well on the way to our economic and financial situation being in a much better position that it is at present.

The Norwegian experience is noteworthy. It has put in place sufficient rules and regulations to accumulate sizeable profits from the oil exploration companies.

Thank you, Deputy. I will let you back in when the Minister has responded.

A closely related matter is the Shannon LNG project, which has been approved by An Bord Pleanála. I ask the Minister to use his good offices to expedite it. There is procrastination about it. That project is of enormous value to Count Kerry. As we are well aware, from €500 million to €1 billion, in rough figures, has been mentioned in terms of investment by that company. There is a large number of jobs involved. I ask the Minister to intervene with the regulator to ensure that this contentious issue about the interconnection tariffs is sorted out immediately. This matter is a related issue.

I agree with Deputy Fleming about the importance of landing an LNG project for Tarbert. It would be a considerable boost to the local area. Even more importantly, it would be an additional string in this country's energy security bow. As the Deputy knows, the matter is before the High Court at the moment. I hope a decision will be handed down before the courts rise for the summer recess.

I would like to respond briefly to what the Deputy said about the oil and gas situation. I suppose one can prove anything with statistics. I do not know whether there are 10 billion barrels out there. I would settle for much less if we could make a strike between now and Christmas. The problem is that we will not know unless we can increase the level of exploration. We need to do that and we are trying to do so. In other words, we need to fix the fiscal regime at a level that does not frighten off companies that are likely to explore and drill. The Deputy's question referred to Dunquin, for example. When of all that business is finished, there will be very little change out of €200 million. It is extremely costly. Obviously, the State does not have that kind of money.

I hope the Minister will be able to bring good news regarding the Shannon LNG project to Kerry when he arrives in the county for his annual holidays. I presume the Minister and the Ceann Comhairle will be visiting us again this year.

They are taking everyone in Kerry.

I would like to mention some of the figures that are on the record. It is estimated that there are over 1.7 billion barrels in the Providence company's Barryroe field, which is south of the County Cork coast. It appears that 270 million barrels can be pumped in a viable manner. The Minister mentioned the Dunquin field, which is also very promising. These estimated figures are significant when one considers that oil is selling for between $90 and $100 per barrel. The unfortunate position we have inherited is the result of some very rash political decisions that were made in the past. The Minister and the Government are realistic about this. We should act in a step-by-step manner in revisiting this issue. Surely we can find a means of protecting ourselves because we need these important funds for our education, health and welfare systems and to deal with the issues we are facing. We do not have much to fall back on. I think we can retrieve this.

Deputies will recall a certain Taoiseach who used to occupy this seat many years ago. He used to say at this time of the year that the beaches of Kerry were beckoning. I have never met a Kerry Deputy who does not invite everyone to enjoy the highly cherished product that exists in that county. If I get an outcome from the High Court between now and August-----

Call in to Deputy Fleming.

The Minister will have to head for Scartaglin.

I will put it in the boot of the car and deliver it, like another Minister of State used to do with telephones many years ago. Those of us on this side of the House are at least as enthusiastic as Deputy Fleming about the possibility of an oil strike off the Irish offshore. That is the kind of fillip the industry needs. There is a great deal of excitement around at the moment. The Minister of State, Deputy O'Dowd, who is more hands-on in this regard than I am, advises me that eight of the 13 licences have already been converted, which means there will be exploration. It is possible that two more of them will follow suit. We hope one of them is positive. If we are to test Deputy Fleming's theory, we have to get more activity off the Irish offshore.

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