Written Answers Nos. 412-431
412. Deputy Stephen S. Donnelly asked the Minister for Health the number of consultant positions in whole-time equivalent terms in each public and voluntary hospital filled by a non-specialist consultant; and the percentage of consultant positions in whole-time equivalent terms that are filled by a non-specialist consultant in each public and voluntary hospital in tabular form. [53918/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraI have asked the HSE to respond to you directly on this matter.
413. Deputy Brendan Griffin asked the Minister for Health his views on a matter (details supplied); and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53976/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraUnder the Health Act 2004, the Health Service Executive (HSE) is required to manage and deliver, or arrange to be delivered on its behalf, health and personal social services. Section 6 of the HSE Governance Act 2013 bars the Minister for Health from directing the HSE to provide a treatment or a personal service to any individual or to confer eligibility on any individual.
The National Waiting List Management Policy, a standardised approach to managing scheduled care treatment for in-patient, day case and planned procedures, since January 2014, has been developed to ensure that all administrative, managerial and clinical staff follow an agreed national minimum standard for the management and administration of waiting lists for scheduled care. This policy, which has been adopted by the HSE, sets out the processes that hospitals are to implement to manage waiting lists.
In relation to the particular query raised, as this is a service matter, I have asked the HSE to respond to the Deputy directly.
414. Deputy Barry Cowen asked the Minister for Health the number of qualified accountants directly employed by the HSE; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53980/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraI have asked the HSE to respond to you directly on this matter.
415. Deputy Barry Cowen asked the Minister for Health the amount spent on accounting and cost recording in each of the years since 2012; the amount to be spent in 2018; the amount projected for 2019; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53981/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraThe amount spent on accounting and cost recording relates to the annual cost of support, licensing and maintenance of the Department of Health Financial Management System (FMS). This system is also used for the same purpose by the Department of Children & Youth Affairs but the cost is included in the costs to the Department of Health.
|
Year |
Cost € |
Purpose |
|
2012 |
88,847.82 |
FMS Support, Licences & Maintenance for 2013 |
|
2013 |
88,842.90 |
FMS Support, Licences & Maintenance for 2014 |
|
2014 |
0.00 |
|
|
2015 |
162,138.60 |
FMS Support, Licences & Maintenance for 2015 (€78,781.50) and FMS Support, Licences & Maintenance for 2016 (€83,357.10) |
|
2016 |
0.00 |
|
|
2017 |
98,893.23 |
FMS Support, Licences & Maintenance for 2017 |
|
2018 |
98,893.23 |
FMS Support, Licences & Maintenance for 2018 |
|
2019 (projected) |
98,893.23 |
FMS Support, Licences & Maintenance for 2019 |
416. Deputy Barry Cowen asked the Minister for Health the amount spent on social media by his Department in 2016, 2017 and to date in 2018; the projected spend in 2019; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53992/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraThe amount spent on social media for the years is as follows:
- 2019: we do not have an project spend on social media for 2019;
- 2018 Social Media €70,761.34;
- 2017 Social Media N/A;
- 2016 Social Media N/A.
Social Media costs for 2018 were incurred in the dissemination of information campaigns in support of Mental Health Services and the Health and Wellbeing Programme.
417. Deputy Barry Cowen asked the Minister for Health the amount spent on marketing and media by his Department in 2016, 2017 and to date in 2018; the projected spend in 2019; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [54009/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraThe Department of Health interprets marketing and media costs as advertising costs. Advertising includes advertising board vacancies and public consultations.
Social Media costs in 2018 were incurred in the promotion of Mental Health Services and the Health and Wellbeing Programme.
Advertising costs for 2016, 2017 and 2018 are set out below:
|
Year |
- |
Cost |
|
2016 |
Advertising / marketing / PR |
10,394.47 |
|
Social Media |
- |
|
|
2017 |
Advertising / marketing / PR |
22,302.29 |
|
Social Media |
- |
|
|
2018 |
Advertising / marketing / PR |
37,526.92 |
|
Social Media |
70,761.34 |
|
|
Healthy Ireland |
319,694.66 |
418. Deputy Stephen S. Donnelly asked the Minister for Health the reason for the significant increase in costs for the new children's hospital; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [54032/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraThe children’s hospital is one of the most complex and important public capital projects that this country has ever embarked upon. Considerable work has been undertaken on the project since April 2017 when Government gave the green light for the construction of the hospital. Enabling works on the main hospital site are complete and Phase A construction works (substructure works on the main site), which commenced in October 2017, are also now nearing completion. Following yesterday's decision, the Phase B 7-storey above ground works will begin early next year. Development is also well advanced on the paediatric outpatients and urgent care centres. Works at Connolly are on target for practical completion of the building in Spring 2019 with the opening scheduled for July 2019. Works at Tallaght are underway with a target handover date of July 2020, and the main hospital to be completed in 2022. The hospital will facilitate the implementation of a new model of care that will have a profound impact on all paediatric services once the new hospital is open.
At an early stage in the process, it was determined that the traditional method of procurement was not suitable or realistic for a project of this size and complexity. Accordingly, the contract is subject to a two-stage process with stage one consisting of a scope refinement and value engineering process, based upon tendered rates, to finalise the Phase B works (above ground). This approach allowed the early phases of work to commence on site while also allowing for the detail of later phases to be finalised and agreed. This approach brings issues on cost to the fore much earlier in the life of the project than is the case where traditional procurement approaches are deployed.
Following the evaluation by the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board in early 2017 of main construction tenders and the selection of preferred contractors, the final cost of the design, build and equipment programme for which the NPHDB is responsible was €983m. Following the completion of the second stage of the two-stage tender procurement process, the project cost is now at €1,433 million, an increase of €450 million.
Of the €450m additional costs, construction costs account for €319m. The balance of €131m, which includes €50m in VAT, relates to costs associated with staff, consultants, planning, design team fees, risk/contingency, and Management Equipment Service.
As I have already stated the increased cost is a matter of great concern and I have made it clear that Phase B of the construction project must be delivered within budget and timescale. Accordingly, there will be an independent review of the escalation in cost in determining the adjusted contract sum, the contributory factors and associated responsibilities so that any potential weaknesses are identified and comprehensively and speedily resolved in the interests of the successful completion of the project and the effective management of public funds. The National Paediatric Hospital Development Board will be required to provide on-going assurance to the HSE, Department of Health and Government that Phase B of the project is being delivered within budget and timescale.
419. Deputy Aindrias Moynihan asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the number of TAMS payments that are outstanding; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53492/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraThe TAMS II Scheme has been very successful to date with over 17,623 approvals issued to farmers. To date a total of €96.9m has been spent on 6,637 claims and payments and approvals are continuing on an on going basis.
There are an additional 933 claims that have been received that are currently being processed prior to payment. All approved applicants are encouraged to complete their investment works and submit their claims for payment to the online system.
420. Deputy Aindrias Moynihan asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the number of beef data and genomics programme payments that are outstanding; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53493/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraThe Beef Data and Genomics Programme (BDGP) forms a part of Ireland’s Rural Development Programme 2014-2020. It involves funding of €300 million over the six year programme and addresses widely acknowledged weaknesses in the maternal genetics of the Irish suckler herd, makes a positive contribution to farmer profitability and reduces the greenhouse gas intensity of Ireland’s beef production.
There are 24,544 participants in the Beef Data and Genomics Programme in 2018. Payments to 21,673 of these commenced on the week of the 10th of December 2018. The remaining applicants have outstanding issues and some may become eligible for payment once these matters are resolved. Payments will continue to issue on an on-going basis as more farmers verify their compliance with the 2018 scheme requirements.
421. Deputy Aindrias Moynihan asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the number of areas of natural constraint and areas of specific constraint payments that are outstanding; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53494/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraUnder the 2018 Areas of Natural Constraints (ANC) Scheme some 100,800 applicants hold eligible designated lands. To date some 92,250 applicants have been paid a total of €221.6m. It is important to point out that not all applicants with eligible lands will receive payment for the 2018 scheme. This is due to the fact that individual farmers who have yet to meet their stocking density requirements may or may not do so by the end of the year depending on their farming practice/decisions.
422. Deputy Aindrias Moynihan asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the number of green low-carbon agri-environment scheme payments that are outstanding; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53495/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraTo date, 41,689 GLAS participants have received their 2018 advance payment. In addition, GLAS Plus payments have also been paid to 2,795 GLAS farmers. This amounts to over €150m paid since 2018 payments commenced on November 14th and equates to 96% of eligible cases paid.
Over 80% of outstanding payments for 2018 require action by the GLAS participant concerned or their advisor. The remainder are at various stages of the payment process and will issue in the next pay runs. Outstanding issues include the non submission of the Commonage Management Plan, Low Emission Slurry Spreading return and Rare Breeds return. GLAS 3 participants with outstanding Nutrient Management Plans and GLAS 1 and 2 participants who have not yet attended a one day GLAS Training course have been reminded that, as set out in the Scheme terms and conditions, they must comply with these requirements before 31 December 2018 to remain in the Scheme.
My Department is working closely with GLAS farmers and their advisors to ensure that payments issue as quickly as possible. I would urge all participants with outstanding issues to contact their advisor to ensure that their application can pass through validations without further delay. GLAS payments will continue to issue on a weekly basis.
423. Deputy Aindrias Moynihan asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the number of organic farming scheme payments which are outstanding; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53496/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraMy Department has processed Organic Farm Scheme payments in respect of 1,200 farmers for 2018 with €5.5m issued to date. 320 payments for 2018 have not yet issued. Payment in these cases will issue once each claim passes all the payment validations.
424. Deputy Aindrias Moynihan asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the number of sheep welfare scheme payments that are outstanding; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53497/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraAs of the 18th of December 2018, a total of 18,661 valid and eligible applications have been received for year 2 of the Sheep Welfare Scheme, of which 18,607 have received payment. It should be noted that the number of valid applications may vary slightly over time as applicants respond to queries raised by my Department in relation to their eligibility etc. Work is ongoing in relation to resolving queries on outstanding cases.
425. Deputy Aindrias Moynihan asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the number of knowledge transfer programme payments that are outstanding; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53498/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraThe Knowledge Transfer (KT) Programme is a three year scheme. The first two years of the Programme have been completed.
In Year 1 there were approximately 19,100 eligible participants of which approximately 19,000 have been paid a total of €12.5m. Remaining applications are being cleared on a case by case basis.
Following the conclusion of year 2 of the KT Programme some 18,700 participants are due a full or partial payment. Payments to farmers in respect of year 2 of the programme commenced in October 2018 in line with the Farmers Charter commitment, with some €9.9m issuing to almost 15,400 farmers. The remaining year 2 participant payments are being processed as a matter of priority and payments are continuing as more farmers meet their commitments to qualify for payment.
In addition to the farmer payments, facilitator payments of approximately €12.9m have also issued in respect of year 1 and year 2 combined. The facilitator payment is made once the 25 working day participant pay-over period has elapsed and the Department receives confirmation from the facilitator that the farmer payments have been made via the appropriate procedures.
426. Deputy Brendan Howlin asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the amount spent by his Department on public advertising and the purchase of external communications and publicity in 2018 by advertising campaign including specific amounts on social media campaigns (details supplied) or other digital platforms; the amount spent on public relations or other communications support in tabular form; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53568/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraThe Press and Communications Office in my Department is the primary point of contact between the Department and members of the media, as well as members of the general public. The office is responsible for communicating with media and members of the public regarding the work of the Minister, the Minister of State and the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine.
The Department's social media presence is also managed by the Press and Communications Office.
My Department did not engage external public relations services.
The vast bulk of my Department's advertising is in respect of press notices in the specialised farming press, provincial and national newspapers. This expenditure includes the publication of Statutory Notices that are required to comply with various national and EU legislative requirements. Decisions on the placement of notices are made on a case by case basis, depending on the nature of the advertisement and the target audience.
Advertising & Publicity 2018
|
Event/Campaign |
Total € |
Media Type |
|
Basic Payment Scheme Campaign encouraging farmers to use the Departments online application system, www.agfood.ie, to apply for their Basic Payment. |
14,065 |
Newspaper |
|
Basic Payment Scheme one to one clinic adverts |
21,588 |
Newspaper |
|
Backyard Poultry |
478 |
Newspaper |
|
Advertisement of Statutory Instruments |
13,420 |
Newspaper |
|
CAP 2020 Public Consultations |
14,983 |
Newspaper |
|
CAP 2020 Public Consultations |
2,460 |
Agriland Online |
|
Clean Livestock Policy for Sheep |
8,105 |
Newspaper |
|
Clean Livestock Policy for Sheep |
1,230 |
Agriland Online |
|
Draft Fishery Natura plan –Public Consultation |
587 |
Newspaper |
|
Freshwater Pearl Mussel Consultation |
2,183 |
Newspaper |
|
Sheep Welfare Scheme – Commencement of Year 2 |
8,518 |
Newspaper |
|
Equine Derogation Advert |
1,823 |
Newspaper |
|
Forestry Skills Training-Call for proposal |
839 |
Newspaper |
|
Closing Date Reminder Nitrates Record forms |
2,194 |
Newspaper |
|
Closing Date Reminder Nitrates Record forms |
4,305 |
Agriland Online |
|
2019 Scheme of investment aid for development of the Commercial Horticulture Sector |
3,014 |
Newspaper |
|
2018 Scheme of investment aid for development of the Commercial Horticulture Sector |
3,083 |
Newspaper |
|
Public consultation on Brown Crab and Razor Clams |
773 |
Newspaper |
|
Ploughing Adverts |
5,284 |
Newspaper |
|
Aquaculture License Decisions |
30,439 |
Newspaper |
|
Fishery Management Notices |
9,963 |
Newspaper |
|
Miscellaneous Public Notices |
37,222 |
Newspaper |
|
186,556 |
*Mediavest held the central Government contract for the provision of the majority of advertising needs. They are currently a framework member on the Framework Agreement for the Media Planning Strategy & Buying in Lots 2 & 3. Adverts typically included under this contract are afforestation notifications, aquaculture license applications, Department schemes and services, Recruitment and Public Notices.
427. Deputy Niamh Smyth asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the status of a potential fodder shortage in winter 2019; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53599/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraAs the Deputy is aware, 2018 presented the agriculture community with some very challenging conditions in terms of a prolonged wet Spring period followed almost immediately by a period of exceptionally dry, hot weather. Notwithstanding these events there was a return in the third quarter of the year to more normal climatic conditions which benefitted the agriculture sector in terms of a late season grass growth.
My priority throughout the year has been to support measures to assist in the conservation of as much fodder for this Winter as possible from within our own resources and to supplement this with necessary imports as required. To this end I introduced a number of targeted measures including:
- a €2.75 million Fodder Production Incentive for Tillage Farmers to encourage tillage growers to actively engage in the fodder market and there has been positive engagement with this measure
- a €4.25 million Fodder Import Support Measure for Autumn 2018. The measure seeks to reduce the cost to farmers of imported forage. The measure operates through the Co-operatives/registered importers and will cover forage imported from 12th August 2018 to 31st December 2018.
In July I secured agreement from EU Commissioner Hogan to pay higher advance Pillar 1 and 2 payments, increased to 70% and 85% respectively. In excess of €1.5 billion has been paid to farmers to date under Pillar 1 and 2 since mid September.
Following consultation with the EU Commission, my Department made some temporary adjustments to the GLAS scheme for this year which have the potential to add to the quantities of winter fodder available by bringing over 260,000 additional hectares into production. In addition, in consultation with my ministerial colleague Mr. Eoghan Murphy T.D., a two week extension of the closed period for the spreading of chemical and organic fertilisers was implemented that allowed farmers capitalise on autumn grass growth for fodder production.
The most recent national fodder survey conducted on my behalf by Teagasc last October indicated that the national fodder shortfall has been reduced to 1% nationally. It is clear that the various support interventions I have introduced have worked and continue to help alleviate what was a very serious fodder conservation issue on many farms during the dry summer period.
It is important to stress that while the deficit nationally has been reduced significantly there still remains a fodder deficit on some farms and there is a need for farmers to remain vigilant and avoid complacency. I have urged Teagasc and the other Stakeholders to continue their individual efforts in support of those farmers worst affected and in need of help.
Whilst it is not possible to predict the duration or severity of the coming winter and its resultant impact on the farming community, I can assure the Deputy that I together my officials will continue to closely monitor the fodder situation.
428. Deputy Niamh Smyth asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine his plans for initiatives for rural farmers to have access to better technology and broadband. [53601/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraThe provision of rural broadband is a matter for my colleague the Minister for Communications, Climate Action and Environment.
However, my Department makes extensive use of ICT systems and technology to provide the best possible services to its customers and to allow farmers interact with it in the easiest way possible.
My Department and its Information Management and Technology (IMT) Division has a very good reputation in the delivery of schemes with ICT systems. For instance, since 2015 my Department has delivered almost all of its CAP reform schemes online with end to end automated processing. This has allowed Ireland to be among the first in Europe to launch schemes and to make payments to farmers at the earliest possible opportunity. Since 2015 Ireland has been the second fastest country to draw down and disperse funds to the rural community from the CAP schemes.
In line with my Department's Statement of Strategy 2016-2019 and IMT Statement of Strategy 2017-2020 my Department is constantly seeking to make the best use of new and emerging technologies. My Department previously launched a mobile phone app that allowed farmers to get up to date details of the prices being paid by different Meat Processors for the different classifications of carcases.
In addition my Department is at an advanced stage of development to provide a calf birth registration application that will be accessible on mobile devices such as smartphones and tablets. This will allow farmers to register calf birth details directly with the Department’s Animal Identification and Movement (AIM) system in remote locations such as farm sheds using the their smart mobile phone. This app will help to minimise errors in calf birth details submitted and avoid duplication of records on the farm. An enhancement to allow farmers process farm to farm movements for cattle will be included in a subsequent phase which will be available later in 2019. Further enhancements will be released on an on-going basis.
As part of its on-going commitment to providing an efficient and effective customer service to its clients, my Department is seeking to develop a new customer engagement contact system. This new contact centre will build on the current telephony system with the creation of a new single point of contact for each customer. The contact centre will be further enhanced by the provision of a single view of each customer, thereby facilitating a more enhanced and holistic approach to customer interactions.
Under EU regulations, 2018 was the first year that all applications for the Basic Payment Scheme (BPS) had to be submitted online. I was aware that for some people, this was the first year that they engaged with the online applications process and they may have found this process daunting. To help farmers to submit their applications online in 2018, I ensured that the BPS application facility was open over a month earlier than in 2017. This provided more time for farmers to familiarise themselves with the online application facility and to submit their applications. My Department contacted these farmers at an early date advising them of the requirement to submit online in 2018. A number of additional supports as follows were also put in place:
- How-to booklets
- How-to videos
- Lo-call telephone support
- Targeted letters, texts and phone calls
- 1-to-1 Clinics
These supports ensured that all farmers were able to access these important payments.
429. Deputy Timmy Dooley asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine further to Parliamentary Questions Nos. 173 of 20 September 2018 and 248 of 14 November 2018, when the farmer will receive the outstanding payment in view of the fact that the error was made well over a year ago; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [53616/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraThe person named was approved into GLAS 1 with a contract commencement date of 1 October 2015 and has received payments for scheme years 2015, 2016, 2017 and the 2018 Advance.
An issue arose with this case that resulted in a penalty being deducted in error. This issue has now been sorted and the correction will be made in the coming days.
430. Deputy Jackie Cahill asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the number of applications received for the hen harrier scheme by county; the number of approved applications; the number of farmers that have withdrawn from the scheme; the number of approved applicants that have received the 2018 payment; and the number of approved applicants that have not received the 2018 payment by county. [53620/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraThe Hen Harrier scheme is operationally independent of my Department and is run by a Hen Harrier Project team. The info below is sourced from the Project Team. A total of 1,845 applications were received by the Hen Harrier Project team and of these 1,632 were deemed to be valid applications. The breakdown per county of valid applications is shown below.
Number of valid applications for the Hen Harrier Scheme
|
County |
Number |
|
Clare |
309 |
|
Limerick |
317 |
|
Galway |
249 |
|
Kerry |
284 |
|
Tipperary |
127 |
|
Cork |
226 |
|
Laois |
57 |
|
Monaghan |
35 |
|
Offaly |
26 |
|
Mayo |
1 |
|
Waterford |
1 |
|
Total |
1632 |
There were 695 contracts offered for the 2018 breeding season and 629 of those offers were accepted. Payments have now been prepared for 425 of those. See the table below.
Number of contracted participants paid for 2018 breeding season
|
County |
Total |
Paid |
Unpaid |
|
Clare |
105 |
75 |
30 |
|
Limerick |
127 |
75 |
52 |
|
Galway |
96 |
70 |
26 |
|
Kerry |
103 |
63 |
40 |
|
Tipperary |
61 |
47 |
14 |
|
Cork |
73 |
44 |
29 |
|
Laois |
29 |
26 |
3 |
|
Monaghan |
20 |
14 |
6 |
|
Offaly |
13 |
10 |
3 |
|
Mayo |
1 |
0 |
1 |
|
Waterford |
1 |
1 |
0 |
|
Total |
629 |
425 |
204 |
The Hen Harrier Programme is still open and offers for the 2019 season will commence in January 2019. No withdrawals from the programme have taken place.
431. Deputy Jackie Cahill asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the discussions he has had with the Minister for Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht regarding permitting afforestation in hen harrier areas. [53622/18]
Amharc ar fhreagraI am informed that the Department of Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht is currently finalising the draft Threat Response Plan for public consultation. This follows consultation with the stakeholder representative Consultative Committee, earlier this year, which generated considerable feedback regarding, among other issues, proposals for limited afforestation within the SPAs.
The timeline for the release of the draft Plan is a matter for the Department of Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht. However, it should be noted that any afforestation within a Natura site must satisfy Article 6(3) of the Habitats Directive, and must also be agreed to by National Parks & Wildlife Service. Until the Threat Response Plan is completed, my Department will not be in a position to approve afforestation projects within the SPAs.
The European Communities (Birds and Natural Habitats) Regulations 2011, stipulates that any Minister considering a plan or project in a Special Protection Area (SPA) shall give consent for such a plan or project only after having determined that the plan or project shall not adversely affect the integrity of a European site. A series of judgements issued by the Court of Justice of the EU have stressed that there must be no doubt about possible adverse impacts in such decisions. In addition, under the European Union guidelines for State aid in the agricultural and forestry sectors and in rural areas, within Natura sites (i.e. SPAs and Special Areas of Conservation, or SACs), only afforestation consistent with the management objectives of the sites concerned, and agreed with the Member State’s authority in charge of implementing Natura 2000 (in Ireland’s case, the Department of Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht), shall be allowed.
I fully recognise the importance of the preservation and conservation of the Hen Harrier and other protected bird species. My Department gives priority access to GLAS applicants with land in SPAs and supports them in adopting farming systems suitable to the protected species. Over 2,650 farmers currently have Hen Harrier actions under GLAS, covering in excess of 42,200 hectares of habitat. My Department is also funding a Hen Harrier Programme under the European Innovation Partnerships (EIP) measure. This particular programme, which has a budget of some €25 million, focuses specifically on farmers managing habitat in the six Hen Harrier SPAs.
