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Seanad Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 20 Jan 2009

Vol. 193 No. 5

Anglo Irish Bank Corporation Bill 2009: Earlier Signature Motion.

I move:

That pursuant to subsection 2° of section 2 of Article 25 of the Constitution, Seanad Éireann concurs with the Government in a request to the President to sign the Anglo Irish Bank Corporation Bill 2009 on a date which is earlier than the fifth day after the date on which the Bill shall have been presented to her.

Is the motion agreed?

Senators

No.

I ask Members to resume their seats. The question is "That the motion be agreed to" and on that question a division has been challenged.

We called a division on the actual Bill itself on numerous occasions. It came from both sides.

Tellers: Tá, Senator Diarmuid Wilson and Senator Camillus Glynn; Níl, Senator Maurice Cummins and Senator Paschal Donohoe.

(Interruptions).

It is bad enough to be stifling debate in this House rather than displaying this type of an attitude, too, a Chathaorligh.

The time allowed for voting is one minute and the time starts now.

This is absolutely undemocratic.

I heard Senator Norris clearly call for a vote. It will take a number of minutes to have a vote on this Bill. All of us on this side of the House want to vote on this Bill, and a vote was called — we can check the transcripts.

No vote was called. I did not hear it.

(Interruptions).

On a point of order, I suggest we adjourn the House and that a recording is listened to.

There is no point of order. The question has been put.

The record will clearly show that several Members called for a vote. If we adjourn the House——

There is no point of order.

——for ten minutes, this can probably be clarified.

Question put.
The Seanad divided by electronic means.

I would like a manual vote.

We want a walk through vote.

The vote will now proceed.

Question again put.
The Seanad divided: Tá, 28; Níl, 22.

  • Boyle, Dan.
  • Brady, Martin.
  • Butler, Larry.
  • Callanan, Peter.
  • Callely, Ivor.
  • Cannon, Ciaran.
  • Carty, John.
  • Cassidy, Donie.
  • Corrigan, Maria.
  • Daly, Mark.
  • de Búrca, Déirdre.
  • Ellis, John.
  • Feeney, Geraldine.
  • Glynn, Camillus.
  • Hanafin, John.
  • Keaveney, Cecilia.
  • Leyden, Terry.
  • MacSharry, Marc.
  • Ó Domhnaill, Brian.
  • Ó Murchú, Labhrás.
  • O’Brien, Francis.
  • O’Donovan, Denis.
  • O’Malley, Fiona.
  • O’Sullivan, Ned.
  • Phelan, Kieran.
  • Walsh, Jim.
  • White, Mary M.
  • Wilson, Diarmuid.

Níl

  • Bacik, Ivana.
  • Bradford, Paul.
  • Burke, Paddy.
  • Buttimer, Jerry.
  • Coghlan, Paul.
  • Cummins, Maurice.
  • Doherty, Pearse.
  • Donohoe, Paschal.
  • Fitzgerald, Frances.
  • Hannigan, Dominic.
  • Healy Eames, Fidelma.
  • Kelly, Alan.
  • McFadden, Nicky.
  • Norris, David.
  • O’Reilly, Joe.
  • Phelan, John Paul.
  • Prendergast, Phil.
  • Quinn, Feargal.
  • Regan, Eugene.
  • Ross, Shane.
  • Ryan, Brendan.
  • Twomey, Liam.
Tellers: Tá, Senators Camillus Glynn and Diarmuid Wilson; Níl, Senators Maurice Cummins and Paschal Donohoe.
Question declared carried.

When is it proposed to sit again?

I would like to raise what I believe is a point of order.

At 2.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 27 January 2009.

The House——

I would like to raise what I believe is a point of order.

What is the point of order? I cannot hear the Senator.

That is precisely the problem.

What is the point of order?

The point of order is this - I say it with no disrespect and no intention to comment adversely upon your performance as Cathaoirleach - it seems that the responsibilities of the Chair include ensuring that the debate is audible and that comments are heard. The minute this row started I very clearly started shouting "Vótáil, vótáil, vótáil". I have been heard at the back of a 3,000 seater auditorium and I cannot understand——

I also did the same.

I am quite clear in my mind as Cathaoirleach, and I want to be fair to everyone, that I did not hear anyone call "vótáil"——

——-when I went through that particular section at the end, but when I called the early signature motion, I heard a number of people call "vótáil" on that.

I quite understand that you might have had difficulty hearing it because there was a hubbub and discussion and ruaille buaille going on, but in those circumstances, the House should have been adjourned so that people like myself who very clearly called for a vote on this important Bill could be heard. All my colleagues over here have supported me. They all heard me shouting it.

Senators

Hear, hear.

I have made my decision on that. The business is completed and the House stands adjourned until 2.30 p.m. next Tuesday.

The Seanad adjourned at 11.40 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 27 January 2009.
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