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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 6 Mar 1946

Vol. 99 No. 16

Committee on Finance. - Vote 33—Gárda Síochána.

I move:—

That a supplementary sum not exceeding £10 be granted to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending 31st March, 1946, for the Salaries and Expenses of the Gárda Síochána (No. 7 of 1925, No. 10 of 1926, No. 5 of 1937, No. 19 of 1941 and Nos. 1 and 17 of 1945); and for certain expenses of the Local Security Force, including Grants-in-Aid (No. 28 of 1939).

The amount originally voted for the service of the Gárda Síochána this year has not proved sufficient. No more money is actually required. A Supplementary Estimate is, however, necessary for two more or less technical reasons. Since the main Estimate was passed by the Dáil, an Act —the Gárda Síochána Act, 1945—was passed on 15th May, 1945, amending the Police Forces Amalgamation Act, 1925, by increasing the maximum number of inspectors and station sergeants with a view to the appointment of 18 additional inspectors and 14 additional station sergeants. The appointments have been made, and consequently some of the money voted by the Dáil has been spent on the remuneration of posts not included in the original Estimate. Although the Dáil has already approved of the additional appointments, I am advised that in the circumstances it is the proper course to submit a Supplementary Estimate. In the second place, it is necessary, in order to balance accounts, to take advantage of the fact that the receipts under the head of Appropriations-in-Aid have exceeded the original Estimate, and it is a rule that the Dáil should be asked to agree to that procedure.

I might mention that of the new inspectors three were assigned to the new Dublin district which has its headquarters in Sundrive Road, Kimmage. This district was formed by the division of E district which formerly extended from Ringsend to Inchicore. The B and C districts have been strengthened by the appointment of an additional inspector to each. Thirteen of the new inspectors have been allocated to country divisions, one to the Depot to look after recruits who are now coming in regularly and one to the Technical Bureau at Gárda - Headquarters.

Although, as I have said, the original amount voted was adequate, some of the sub-heads show a deficit and others a saving. The biggest savings are under sub-heads O and P which relate to the Local Security Force and they amount to £10,000 and £13,000 respectively. They result from the winding up of the force on the 30th September and the fact that its members were not actively employed in the year 1945, except in the local and presidential elections. In the ordinary way, the saving on some sub-heads and the deficits on others would have been adjusted by transferring the necessary amounts from sub-head to sub-head without recourse to the Dáil; but as it has been necessary to come to the Dáil in any case, the opportunity has been taken, in accordance with the practice in such cases, to set out in the Supplementary Estimate the main variations as between sub-heads.

I might perhaps amplify the note on sub-head G—Barrack Maintenance—by explaining that the public rooms in all Gárda barracks outside the Dublin Metropolitan area were, until this financial year, cleaned at the expense of the station party. The representative bodies have frequently urged that this work should be done at the public expense and this view has now been accepted. The expenses of this new service are estimated to amount to £9,600 in a full year.

Would the Minister deal with sub-head M—Compensation?

Mr. Boland

That relates to increased compensation arising out of the Compensation Act which we passed last year in respect of people who were murdered. We had to amend the Act and the courts reviewed the awards given, increasing them by the amount of £4,700 set out.

There is an item in respect of barrack maintenance, and I notice that the State will now bear some responsibility for it. I should like to ask the Minister what is his policy in respect to Gárda stations throughout the country. The Minister knows from his experience of his own constituency and elsewhere that many of these buildings qualify in every sense for the description of barracks. They are in many cases very old and very unsatisfactory buildings—bleak and badly furnished and very often badly painted and badly ventilated. Generally speaking, they are dreary dungeons in which unfortunate Guards have to spend a considerable portion of their lives. I do not want to press the Minister for details of his future programme in that respect, but I think he ought to tell us at what date the Department intends to provide up-to-date Gárda stations. Where new Gárda stations have been erected they are very fine buildings. If we must have Gárdaí and Gárda stations, then we should have decent buildings. Many of these places are ramshackle structures and are no credit to a force like the Gárda. They are particularly objectionable when the Gárda have to spend a considerable portion of their time in them. Could the Minister tell the House what the intention generally is regarding the provision of proper accommodation for the Gárda?

Mr. Boland

I cannot go into details now. That is general policy. The intention is to have suitable barracks. We also hope to provide accommodation for members of the Gárda, but that is a very big proposition. The rent allowances which they get would, probably, pay for the accommodation. Since I became Minister I have been getting details of a scheme for barracks and, at long last, we have got it through, but the matter hardly arises on this Estimate. The intention is, wherever we can, to erect barracks.

The Minister stated to-day that there had been a saving on L.D.F. uniforms. When I asked him about that he said he would reconsider the position.

Mr. Boland

That referred to the L.S.F.

Vote put, and agreed to.
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