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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 25 Feb 1960

Vol. 179 No. 6

Committee on Finance. - Vote 37—Primary Education.

I move:—

That a supplementary sum not exceeding £90,000 be granted to defray the charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1960, for Primary Education, including National School Teachers' Superannuation, etc.

This Supplementary Estimate is necessary to meet the cost of increases in the salaries and other grants payable to teachers in National Schools. The increases, which have been accorded with effect as from 1st January, 1960, arise from the acceptance of the agreed recommendations of the Conciliation Council for National Teachers, on a claim submitted by the teachers' side of the Council in accordance with the agreed scheme of conciliation and arbitration.

The claim of the national teachers was similar to the claims presented by other groups of public servants towards the end of the past calendar year. It was for compensation in respect of the increase in the cost of living between 1955 and 1959 additional to the compensation accorded already by the salary increases which had been granted in 1958.

The matter was considered by the Conciliation Council at meetings on the 7th and 9th January, 1960, as a result of which agreed recommendations were submitted in favour of revised scales of salary to operate as from 1st January, 1960. The agreed recommendations have been accepted by me with the approval of the Minister for Finance and consequential revisions have been made in the rates of grant to national schools paid on a capitation basis.

The additional cost of the revised scales of salary and rates of capitation grant in respect of some 13,800 teachers in national schools is estimated at £415,000 for a full year. The amount which will become payable in the present financial year is estimated at £95,000; it is anticipated that £5,000 will become available through an increase in appropriations-in-aid and the net additional sum required is, therefore, £90,000.

We accept the Supplementary Estimate just moved by the Minister. While it was necessary to give this increase to the national teachers, so that their remuneration would bear some relation to the cost of living, I should prefer if the Minister had said, instead of mentioning the period 1955 to 1959, that the increase really took place between 1957 and 1959. Secondly, I want to say that it is pleasant to know that the recommendations in relation to the conciliation and arbitration award are being respected on all fronts, particularly in regard to the national teachers. Having regard to the magnificent work they do, I do not think any pay is too great for them.

I am sure this Supplementary Estimate will be unanimously accepted and welcomed but I do think, however, that the Minister should have taken the opportunity, even at this late stage, of helping the pre-1950 pensioned teachers.

That matter would not arise on the Supplementary Estimate. The only matters for debate are those for which the moneys are being voted.

I do not at all want to delay the House but this is in the nature of an increase to national teachers——

Who are teaching.

——in view of the increase in the cost of living. It is one which is deserved by them, one which the House is agreed is necessary, but I merely wish to emphasise to the Minister that he should have included in this Supplementary Estimate some contribution to ease the position of the pre-1950 retired teachers.

I cannot allow the Deputy to continue. It would widen the scope of the debate. The Deputy knows he will have an opportunity of referring to this matter on the main Estimate.

I have no intention of delaying the House. The Leas-Cheann Comhairle knows as well as I do that the main Estimate may not come until next June or July and——

The matter to which the Deputy refers does not arise on the Supplementary Estimate.

——that the numbers concerned are very limited.

I do not want it to go out from the Minister that this is an increase for the national teachers. It is just something given in slight compensation for the increase in the cost of living and that is the reason it is given. There is no other reason for it. It is something to which they are well entitled and is not just a reward.

I do not think there is any point to be cleared up beyond saying that the claim of the teachers was to give them the same purchasing power as they had in November, 1955. That is why 1955 was mentioned. I thank the House for receiving the Supplementary Estimate in the manner in which it did.

Vote put and agreed to.
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