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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 15 Nov 1978

Vol. 309 No. 6

Industrial Development Bill, 1978: Second Stage.

I move: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

The provisions of the Bill are explained in the memorandum which was circulated to Deputies on 7 November.

The Bill provides for the upward revision of the statutory limit on the aggregate amount of grants and payments of a capital nature which can be made by and to the Industrial Development Authority. It is also proposed in the Bill to raise the limits, which may not be exceeded without prior Government approval, on various grants which the authority may make to an individual undertaking. The opportunity is also being availed of to introduce a minor technical amendment to the statutory provisions governing the authority's powers to operate superannuation schemes.

The limit on the aggregate amount of grants and payments of a capital nature which may be made by the authority, and on the aggregate amount of grants which may be paid by the Minister to the authority for this purpose out of moneys provided by the Oireachtas, was increased to £400 million in accordance with the provisions of the Industrial Development (No. 2) Act, 1975. The total amount of capital issued to the authority to the end of 1977 was almost £317 million and the authority's capital allocation for 1978 is £69.75 million. It is, therefore, again necessary to amend the statutory limits in order to enable the authority to continue to discharge their functions after the end of this year. It is proposed in the Bill to raise the limits on aggregate expenditure of a capital nature by the authority and on the aggregate amount of grants which may be paid to the authority by the Minister to £750 million. These higher limits will permit the authority to carry out their functions for a further three years or so.

The limit, which may not be exceeded without the approval of the Government, on the total amount of grants which the Industrial Development Authority may make to a particular undertaking towards the cost of fixed assets purchased or leased and towards the cost of factory rents was raised to £850,000 by the Industrial Development Act, 1975.

Because of the continuing impact of both domestic and imported inflation on the cost of fixed assets, an increasing number of projects would have to be submitted for the approval of the Government, if the present limit were to remain unchanged. To avoid prolonging the period of negotiation with the promoters of what could not be regarded as major projects, it is proposed to raise the limit to £1.25 million.

The limit on the amount of grants which the IDA may make, without prior Government approval, towards the cost of fixed assets purchased or leased by an industrial undertaking for re-equipment, modernisation or expansion was also raised to £850,000 by the 1975 Act. For reasons similar to those which I have already outlined, the Bill proposes to increase this limit also to £1.25 million.

Prior to 1977 there was no legislative limit on the amount of training grants which the IDA could make. The Industrial Development Act, 1977, however, provided for a limit of £850,000 on the amount of such grants which the authority might make, without prior Government approval, to an individual undertaking. Training grants will continue to be an important component in the authority's overall range of incentives. Moreover, training grants now constitute a very valuable incentive in the authority's programme for the encouragement of suitable service industries to locate here. I consider that the statutory limit on training grants should be kept at the same level as the limit applicable to capital grants. It is, therefore, proposed in the Bill to increase to £1.25 million the limit on training grants which the authority may make without prior Government approval.

Section 27 of the Industrial Development Act, 1969, empowers the IDA to operate a staff superannuation scheme, subject to Ministerial approval. As the provisions of this section may debar the IDA from operating a widows' and children's pension scheme, I propose to remove this limitation on the authority's powers by the amendment of section 27.

About this time last year the House had a full and what I consider to have been a very useful and constructive debate on the activities of the Industrial Development Authority. The present Bill is a technical one and is much more limited in scope than the legislation which we were then discussing. Nonetheless I intend to use this occasion to outline to the House the progress which has been made in implementing the provisions of the 1977 Act and in general to provide a quick review of the authority's activities over the past year.

I am pleased to say that it now appears that the authority will exceed by a significant margin its job approvals target of 27,000 for 1978. This target represented the most ambitious annual level of job commitments which the authority ever aimed to secure. Significant and encouraging as this achievement is, there can be no question of the authority resting on its laurels. In its industrial plan for the years 1977-80, published in April 1978, the authority set itself the challenge of creating 49,500 new grant-aided jobs in the period. This in turn would necessitate the negotiation during the four-year period of the plan, of industrial and service projects which would have the potential to provide over 100,000 jobs at full production. In addition to adopting regional strategies, the plan embodies a programmed approach to the development of selected sectors with good growth potential, with particular emphasis on the development of natural resource based industry. A key element in the plan is the objective of securing over half the new job commitments from within Ireland. The plan is an interim one and has been the subject of extensive discussions with a wide range of interested parties throughout the country. It is currently being revised and a new blueprint incorporating some significant new features and, more importantly, higher job targets will be published in the new year.

Deputies will recall that the Industrial Development Act, 1977, provided for a new kind of incentive to encourage the establishment of new industrial projects by persons having the necessary qualifications and experience but who would be unable to raise the necessary finance to put the project on a sound commercial footing. The enterprise development programme, as it is named, was launched by the IDA in January 1978 and I am pleased to say that the response to date has been very encouraging. Nineteen projects with a total job creation potential of 850 have already been approved for grant assistance, and worth-while inquires are continuing to be received at a steady rate.

The promoters of the projects already approved for grant assistance come from a variety of backgrounds—from university, banking, manufacturing and semi-State—and have individual skills and experience in such diverse areas as management, production, finance, research and marketing. These first-time entrepreneurs have shown a true spirit of economic patriotism by giving up well-paid and secure jobs to begin a new manufacturing operation, and in so do-ing are active participants in the Government's job creation drive. When introducing the Bill this time last year I said that the enterprise development programme was intended as an experiment. I am now satisfied that the response to the programme demonstrates that there are many people of adventure and enterprise in the country who under this programme can establish and direct viable enterprises.

The 1977 Act also gave new powers to the authority to promote the restructuring of Irish industry. A committee representative of the Department of Industry, Commerce and Energy, CTT, Fóir Teoranta and the IDA has been established to help administer this imaginative measure. The aim of the programme is to encourage amalgamations or acquisitions within selected in-dustrial sectors and thereby reduce wasteful competition between firms, strengthen sectoral bases, secure home market sales against imports and develop export potential. There have not been any dramatic results to date, but the behind-the-scenes work is in progress and in time I have no doubt that this programme will prove to be a most effective instrument of industrial policy.

Finally, let me say a few words about the authority's programme of advance factory construction. At present the authority is drawing up plans for a new programme comprising small, medium and large scale advance factories and cluster units to be completed in the period to mid-1980. On 22 September I announced the first phase of this programme and I expect to be in a position to announce a further "batch" of factories shortly, as soon as the preliminary design and planning work is completed. The advance factory is an important weapon in our industrial development armoury at the national level. It is particularly suited to certain types of project particularly those in the electronics field which can get into production rapidly once the investment decision has been taken. It is a facility which is increasingly being offered by our competitors for mobile international investment.

I would like to stress, however, that it is only one in our very wide battery of incentives and other factors may be more critical in deciding the location of a project. A town which is not "allocated" an advance factory under this programme should not feel that it is being neglected as a possible location for suitable new industry. In many cases a promoter will prefer to build his own factory, towards which there are exceptionally generous grants available. Equally in many cases the authority will agree to build a special factory tailored to the needs of the particular project. The crucial factor is that there should be a suitable site available for the prospective project. To this end the authority has built up a land bank of nearly 4,000 acres which is available for industrial development. The IDA is always prepared to consider purchasing additional sites where these are available and suitable for industrial development purposes. Industrial promoters can thereby be offered sites with outline planning permission for industry and many of the delays associated with land purchase are avoided.

Having described the provisions of the Bill and briefly reviewed the authority's activities over the past year, I accordingly recommend the Bill for the approval of the House.

This party, as the party which was the major component of a Government which established the Industrial Development Authority, and which did it in face of a political opposition that belittled that innovation, welcome this Bill and would like to express, through myself and other speakers who will follow, their appreciation of and admiration for the efforts which the Industrial Development Authority have made in contributing to the economic growth of this country. Naturally we have no objection to this Bill. We never have opposed the State's support to this authority, which has been responsible effectively for changing the face of Irish society and of the Irish economy.

I will have a fair number of things to say about the Industrial Development Authority, about their efforts, about the background against which they must make these efforts, about the forces with which they have to deal and which they name, in their various reports and projections, as being constraints on industrial development. Accordingly, I have no hope of finishing what I want to say this evening because we have ten minutes only left.

In order to put into perspective the proposal which this Bill embodies I should like to say that it is almost doubling the amount of grants and assistance which the Industrial Development Authority will have afforded by the end of this year as compared with when it was instituted approximately 20 years ago. It proposes to increase the maximum from £400 million to £750 million. While I know a lot of rhetoric goes on in this House from which ever side happens to be in Opposition about the small number of minutes devoted to discussing handing out immense quantities of money I have to say that the Minister's speech—I hope he will not take this personally; I know quite well it has been put into his hand—is a very inadequate account of the sort of expenditure which the Industrial Development Authority foresee over the next three years. The Industrial Development Authority are spending in this year a little less than £70 million. The Minister, without any explanation whatsoever, although this speech of his purports to be a review, even if a brief one, of the IDA's operations——

Brief was emphasised.

No one is going to complain about the Minister devoting a page or two in his speech to a Bill which will authorise the handing out of a further £350 million. Those may be small sums to the Minister of State but they are very large sums to ordinary people. I expect the Minister to tell us in some detail how the Authority proposes to involve themselves in commitments over the next—as he puts it—three years or so of about £350,000,000. I realise that they have spent £70 million this year and that the amounts of their disbursements have been increasing all the time. Even allowing for some increase, it is a pretty staggering and steep increase, really more proportionate to a time of severe inflation and recession to suppose that we are going to absorb another £350 million—which very nearly equals the total amount disbursed by the IDA in 20 years—over the next three years.

I do not want the House to mis-understand me. I would never oppose spending money on industrial investment and job creation and I hope the Minister understands that I am not doing so—far from it. I should like to see twice as much money spent on job creation. I hope the Minister will not regard this as a personal criticism made in any cantankerous sense but I am complaining that we are given no indication of the kind of investment on which the IDA expect to spend this gigantic sum of money over the next three years. If what the Minister has in mind is the likely demand on the IDA for very substantial assistance of a kind not so far envisaged in a smelter, let him say so. What is the secret about it? Politicians on all sides have been making headlines about smelters for the past three or four years. What is so special about this project that forbids the Minister to tell us that this very large sum may be needed in order to meet the Authority's likely involvement in this very expensive project?

He would have had no opposition from me. I take it for granted he would have more from the Labour Party who have been pressing very hard for the establishment of a smelter and the processing of our own natural resources. Why cannot we be told something about this aspect of the Authority's expectations? The smelter as a job creating project—this is a point I may return to the next time this Bill is under discussion—is not really a very hot property because the number of jobs it would generate compared with the immense investment that will be required for it is very small. As I said a couple of weeks ago, the amount of employment which can directly be expected from this smelter is roughly one-third of the employment which was thrown away in Ferenka when it closed just a year ago. I do not want anybody to run away with the wrong idea. I fear it is one that has been propagated and I am not saying necessarily by the Minister of State's party; in fact I must give them credit for having sounded warning notes about this. I do not want anybody to get the idea that this smelter project, if that essentially is what the £350 million is for, or what the margin between the nor-mal likely expenditure and £350 million is required for, will solve all our employment problems or even a large part of them. It will not; it will not make any visible difference in that regard. It will scarcely make a hiccup or bump in the employment figures.

I do not want anybody to suppose from that either that I am cribbing about giving the IDA money for industrial development or that I have anything against a smelter—far from it. I am in favour of both things but I would be even more in favour of the Minister telling the House in something more generous than the three lines he devoted to the topic, on what exactly the IDA expect to spend this £350 million. I do not mean this as a personal reflection on the Minister or the official behind him but I think we are becoming a little casual about voting money and authorising expenditure here when a Minister can produce a proposal of this kind in which there is almost a doubling of a 20-year grant record and the House is seriously expected to accept it in three lines of a seven page speech.

I have only three minutes left and I want to mention for the Minister's benefit a couple of topics which occur to me which are made immediately relevant by things he has said in his speech. First, he says:

In addition to adopting regional strategies, the plan embodies a programmed approach to the development sectors with good growth potential, with particular emphasis on the development of natural resource based industry.

I hope to deal with the natural resources in some detail later. These are the very areas in which, partly through Government mismanagement and partly through the creation of a climate which is the reverse of the one we need and partly through slackness in guarding Irish national interests at European level, the natural resources sector has taken some body blows over recent months. I cannot understand the Minister who has the ear of the nation, who has the first words and the last words and who could have come here on this Bill with a 100 page speech had he so wished, talking about concentration on the natural resource based industry in less than a single line when within the last month we have seen the difficulties in which the leather industry and the timber industry are. These are natural resources, not glamorous or trendy ones of the kind that people who have never seen a lump of zinc, bronze or copper in their lives imagine, but they are real natural resources, hides and timber, things which grow here thanks to the rainfall and the kind of soil we have. Any policy which would deprive these things of the title "natural resources" does not deserve the name. In their manifesto Fianna Fáil promised to provide tens of thousands of secure jobs from natural resources. The Minister of State will find that in the manifesto; I cannot remember the page reference; I did not expect to advert to the manifesto of his party so early in the debate. He will find that he himself was elected and got his very large vote—on which I congratulate him—on a manifesto which included the following sentence:

There are tens of thousands of secure jobs only waiting to be created in the natural resource field.

When I find this unconsidered bland reference to the natural resource based strategy of the IDA, a sector in which there has been disaster on the industrial front within the past month, I ask myself if he and his Department and his absent chief have their feet on the ground at all.

Debate adjourned.
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