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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 3 Feb 2005

Vol. 597 No. 1

Order of Business.

It is proposed to take No. 17, the Water Services Bill 2003 [Seanad] — Second Stage (resumed); and No. 1, Dormant Accounts (Amendment) Bill 2004 [Seanad] — Second Stage.

There are no proposals to put to the House on the Order of Business.

Now that the Taoiseach appears to be intent on having a new outer radial route around Dublin, when is a decision likely to be made in respect of whether we are to have a Dublin metro and when is that Bill likely to be produced?

Second, is it intended that the Government will make time available today for statements in the House following the statement issued last night by the IRA which is an affront to Irish people, North and South? Great resentment is taken at the commencement of the statement, that the leadership of Óglaigh na hÉireann makes the following points. There is one Óglaigh na hÉireann in this country and that is the Irish Army and the members of the Irish Army wear that logo with pride on their uniforms. Is it intended that time will be set aside today for statements in the House following this implied threat that the Good Friday Agreement will not be concluded unless the provisional republican movement gets its way in all circumstances?

The first question was dealt with on Tuesday and Wednesday. The Minister may reply to the second question.

Obviously these are matters that can be referred to the Taoiseach who speaks on behalf of the Government on them. It is not for me to make further comment except to say that from our point of view it is a matter for the two Governments to discharge their responsibilities in ensuring that the Agreement is implemented in full.

I agree with the suggestion of Deputy Kenny. It would be appropriate if time were made available to discuss the situation in Northern Ireland after what was a petulant, belligerent and somewhat threatening statement last night from the IRA that seeks to lay the blame at everyone else's door for the stalling of the peace process.

It sees nothing wrong with the discharging of its own responsibilities under the Belfast Agreement.

In every Dáil session since spring 2003 the work permits Bill has been promised for that session. Every day and increasingly we hear stories of the most outrageous exploitation of non-national workers in this jurisdiction. That Bill has been promised for publication each session since January 2003. Will the Minister for Finance say when it will come before the House?

I have been assured it will be published this session.

Will the Minister reply to the question about Northern Ireland? Will time be provided for that debate?

It is always a matter for the Whips to decide at any time how the business of the House is ordered.

It is not, it is a matter for the Government.

It is a matter for the Government.

The Government's position is clear. We will discharge our responsibilities and it is up to others to discharge theirs.

On a point of order, a Cheann Comhairle, the Taoiseach and Ministers constantly state that it is a matter for the Whips to order business, but it is not a matter for the Whips, it is a matter for the House. The Government orders the business of the House. Therefore, it is a matter for it to make time available or not.

It is not really a matter for the Order of Business——

It is very much a matter for the Order of Business.

——unless a debate has already been promised.

It has been promised several times.

The Chair has been lenient this morning in allowing questions.

The Green Party supports the requests for time to be made available to discuss last night's IRA statement, especially because of its belligerent tone and its implication that weapons can be used as some kind of bargaining chip.

Does the Deputy have a question appropriate to the Order of Business?

I am stating the position of other Deputies. Will the Minister for Finance take the opportunity to correct errors made by himself and the Taoiseach reported in yesterday's Official Report? The Taoiseach made two factual errors in his reply to a question about the M50, stating that something cannot be done——

The Deputy will have to find another way of raising the matter.

I am asking that the record be corrected in both instances. The Minister for Finance also seems to have made a factual error in terms of whether the European Commission had made a preliminary finding or not.

The Minister has written to the Chair and will give a personal explanation.

Given that the Dublin Airport Authority intends to change the terms and conditions of its workers, in contravention of guarantees in the State Airports Act 2004, by ending the receipt of discounted flights by workers, does the Government intend to introduce amendments to the State Airports Act 2004 to facilitate that requirement of the airport authority?

No such legislation is promised.

To enable the Government to elucidate on the position at the ESB, is it possible to indicate when the ESB Bill will come before the House? Furthermore, can it be done so as a matter of urgency in order that the House might have an opportunity to discuss the issues which are likely to affect the ESB in future?

Revised heads of the Bill are being prepared and the Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources has announced a review of the industry.

Do the Government parties acknowledge that transport problems exist in the south as well as in the east of the country? When will the transport (increase in CIE borrowings) Bill come before the House? In the context of problems with the N72 and N73 in north Cork, when will the national roads infrastructure Bill come before the House?

The first Bill to which the Deputy referred should come before the House this year. The second matter to which he referred is under discussion by the Cabinet.

The need for a debate on climate change was raised at the Whips' meeting last night. Will the Government indicate whether the House will discuss this most important national and international issue.

Is a debate promised?

That is what I am asking. If a debate is not promised, I would like to hear why not.

Deputy Ryan——

The Whips discussed the matter for all the good that did.

It is not appropriate to raise issues on the Order of Business which are not promised in the House. We would be here all day if every Member of the House wished to raise an issue either at a national level or concerning his or her constituency.

This is not a small matter. It is an issue——

There are other ways of raising the issue and I ask the Deputy to remain within the provisions of standing orders.

Will the Ceann Comhairle tell me how we can go about this? Can I make a point of order? This is an issue which goes across every Department and has profound effects.

Yes. However, Standing Order 26 is quite specific and I request Members to remain within its terms.

Can I hear the Minister's response?

The Deputy cannot raise this issue and ask for a debate if no debate has been promised.

How do I find out if the Government will be willing to have a debate on the issue of climate change?

The Deputy knows the means afforded by the House for him to do so.

How do I find that out?

If the Deputy has a difficulty, he should call to the Office of the Ceann Comhairle, which will be glad to assist.

How do I find out the Government's position on whether we will have a debate on climate change?

The fines Bill allows for increases in fines and indexation and so on. The House was promised an attachment of fines Bill on a number of occasions. However, it is not on the list. Will the Minister for Finance indicate if and when it will be added to the list? If we increase fines, we must have some way of collecting them.

I understand the fines Bill will come before the House this year and whether the matters to which the Deputy has referred will be incorporated in the Bill is a matter for debate on Second Stage.

What about the attachment of fines Bill?

I am not aware of any such Bill.

When will the electoral Bill to revise the Dáil constituencies be published and when is it expected to be enacted or taken in the House?

It is expected to be debated this session.

Since the Taoiseach's white elephant of the national stadium has been permanently parked, like many of my constituents on the M50 every morning, we have been waiting for plans for Abbottstown. In that context, when will the Abbottstown sports campus development authority Bill be brought before the House and debated?

I understand it will be during this session.

It will be a very busy session.

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