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JOINT COMMITTEE ON ARTS, SPORT, TOURISM, COMMUNITY, RURAL AND GAELTACHT AFFAIRS debate -
Wednesday, 19 Nov 2008

Role and Functions: Discussion with Western Development Commission.

Ba mhaith liom fáilte a chuir roimh na gcomhaltaí atá anseo ó Choimisiún Forbartha an Iarthair. Ar ndóigh, beimid ag éisteacht leis an cur i láthair atá le déanamh ag an gcoimisiún. Ina dhiadh sin, beidh deis ag baill an choiste ceisteanna a chuir orthu. Tá súil agam go mbeidh gach éinne ábalta a rá gur fiú an chruinniú seo. Tuigim go bhfuil Ms Gillian Buckley chun tús a chuir leis an cur i láthair.

I apologise that we do not have the overheads, but we will do our utmost to work with the witnesses. All the members have received the WDC's presentation. I now call on Ms Gillian Buckley, chief executive of the Western Development Commission, to make her presentation.

Ms Gillian Buckley

Thank you very much, Chairman. I will briefly introduce my colleagues: Dr. Patricia O'Hara, policy manager, and Mr. Ian Brannigan, development manager. I thank the Chairman and other members of the joint committee for the opportunity to make this presentation on the work of the Western Development Commission, as well as the challenges and opportunities facing our region. In the presentation I will provide the background as to why the commission was established, the continuing challenges facing our region, our approach to its development, and a future vision for the west.

The Western Development Commission was established following intense public concern and pressure about the continuing social and economic decline of the region, which had become significantly more marked in the 1980s and early 1990s. The gap between east and west was widening and there was a concern that without special focus and special intervention the prosperity that was beginning to emerge in the country would not spread to the west.

There has been substantial progress in the past decade since the WDC was established. Over the past 15 years, we have had a population increase of 80,000 in the west — the first time since the Famine, which is quite significant. We have also had a significant increase in the numbers at work, up 46%, which is a phenomenal achievement. There has been diversification of the rural economy and improved standards of living for all.

However, despite this progress we still continue to face a significant number of challenges. The east-west gap clearly remains and there is a concern in the current economic climate that it might even widen further. One of the fundamental issues facing our region is the poor physical access to broadband connectivity, in addition to road, air and energy links, which are fundamental criteria. We need international best standards of access and connectivity in order for our region to attract jobs and people, which is critical to achieve balanced regional development.

For a number of years, the commission has been highlighting our concerns about the sustainability of the current employment profile in the region. For example, 38% of men in the region are employed either in agriculture or construction. That concern has been borne out in the last 12 months during which there has been a substantial increase in people signing on to the live register. Overall in the region, the figure is 59% but among men it is 72%, which is a staggering increase in such a short period of time. Neither of those sectors will improve in the short term, so we are facing some serious challenges.

One of the areas in which the west has done well in the past is foreign direct investment. We have a significant cluster of such employers, which is important to our region's well-being in providing high quality jobs. However, we have felt downward pressure in the last few years in this area. Between 2002 and 2007 there has been a net job loss of 1,255 jobs in that particular sector.

A scourge facing the west has been the brain drain — an exodus of highly educated young people from our region. It is a dilemma because parents in the west have always put a large store in educating their children to the highest possible standards. The most recent statistics show that that continues to be the case at present. All seven of our counties are achieving third level education standards above the national average, but we are almost educating our children to export them to other regions or countries. Less than half of our graduates get their first job in their own region.

All these issues and challenges point to the fact that without high value-added economic activity there will be further divergence in regional economic growth patterns and increased dependence on more developed areas of the country. We need to work together collectively with agencies and organisations — be they public, private or in the voluntary sector — to find ways to develop the indigenous knowledge economy in our region. One of the ways in which the Western Development Commission has addressed that is through our investment fund, which provides seed and venture capital to high growth knowledge enterprises setting up in the region.

Our work context is framed by our legislative remit, which is to foster and promote the social and economic development of the western region, covering Clare to Donegal. In addition, the national Government objective of achieving balanced regional development as set out in the NSS and the NDP, whereby all regions must build on their strength and address deficits in order to realise their full potential. That has been the core of our thinking and the approach to all our work.

We have done this across four main work themes. We are conscious that the commission is a focal point in promoting and supporting the development of the region. The commission fosters co-ordination and is a catalyst for change. We are not a delivery agency; we try to get others to focus on our region's needs and its special requirements, while leveraging out their expertise and resources in order to achieve synergies. This successful model has been done on a collaborative and partnership basis.

Research and analysis is one of the four areas we work on. We help to inform national policy makers to take account of the west's needs. We do this by providing a strong rationale for public investment and by undertaking robust analysis of evidence-based cases. We understand that there are limited resources and that one needs to be able to make the best possible case to attract such investment.

We have always focused on improving the region's infrastructure. The commission was one of the first organisations to urge a four-lane Atlantic road corridor, which is now in the programme for Government. It is starting to be rolled out and has already made significant improvements. Something as basic as the Ennis bypass has transformed the journey between Galway and Limerick.

International air access is a critical area for our region, which is remote. Tourism and industry rely on such access, so Government investment in regional airports is significant. The western rail corridor has hopefully begun to roll out, although no pun is intended. It is hoped to have the first services up to Athenry commencing by spring 2009. We look forward to rolling it out further to Tuam by 2011, Claremorris by 2014 and onwards to Collooney.

Energy is a major issue for all industry and for the public also. The Western Development Commission was instrumental in changing the connection policy for access to towns in Mayo and Galway to the natural gas pipeline. Some 12 towns and villages in both counties will be connected as a result of amendments we proposed.

Telecommunications, including broadband connectivity, is a fundamental requirement. It is nearly as important as the air we breathe. None of us could envisage going back to the days of meeting at 3 p.m. under the clock in Cannock's. Everybody has a mobile phone and that is how we operate. E-government and access to services are vital. That is one of the most fundamental issues facing rural areas in particular.

It is important to highlight that ours is a predominantly rural region. Two thirds of the population live outside gateways and hubs. That has been a major focus of our work. Another aspect of what we do involves helping to deliver balanced regional development, for the west and the country in general. If we operate on all cylinders, we will have a more prosperous, vibrant and fair economy and society.

Promoting the region is fundamental to our work. We have taken an innovative and novel approach to this matter in recent years in our LookWest campaign, which highlights the benefits of living, working and doing business in the region. For too long there has been a negative portrayal of the region. We were somewhat guilty in this regard ourselves but we came to the realisation that ours is a great region with much to offer. We wanted to sell to people the positive message that there is a high quality of life and a lower cost of living in the west. That message has been put across by means of our LookWest campaign.

Surveys and independent research indicate that there is an understanding among people of the high quality of life on offer in the west. A survey carried out this time last year showed that 41% of those under 35 in the Dublin-Leinster area would be interested in moving to the west. That number is staggering. We discovered that perceptions regarding the availability and quality of jobs was a barrier to people making the move. We set out this year in our campaign — in partnership with the local authorities — to promote the enterprise message. We used seven extremely successful indigenous companies to sell that message for us and to be champions for western development and enterprise development and in the context of delivering jobs to the region. One of the key intangibles of the campaign has been the instilling of confidence and pride of place among the citizens of the region and the underpinning of investor confidence in the region.

Our rural development function is extremely important to our work. We have been very proactive in trying to help diversify the rural economy. We considered our comparative advantages and strengths and that which is embedded in our region which can be exploited for sustainable job creation. In that context, we have focused on areas such as rural tourism, organic agrifood and the creative sector. These areas are not being addressed by others or in an holistic manner.

Wood heat and energy is a project on which we have been working in the past couple of years. We developed a strategy and an action plan and brought together eight or ten different organisations from the supply and demand sides. Our organisation is the hub around which the project revolves. On one side there are foresters who have a product they want to sell, while on the other there are users such as nursing homes, hospitals and hotels. These interests are not necessarily able to discuss matters with each other at present because the sector is so underdeveloped. We have worked on that and we hope that when the programme is fully rolled out during the next decade, it will result in a tripling of the use of wood heat in the region. This could lead to the creation of up to 900 jobs in rural areas and would result in a gross value added, GVA, of €15 million, some €1.7 million of which would be paid directly to farmers on an annual basis. From an environmental point of view, it would reduce emissions by more than 600,000 tonnes. This equates to removing 92,000 cars off the roads every year. The project to which I refer represents our model of development, namely, working in partnership and allowing the agencies that operate as delivery mechanisms to do their jobs better.

The fourth aspect of our work relates to the western investment fund. This is a seed and venture capital fund which provides risk capital. The concept of risk capital is somewhat self-explanatory. In return for a percentage shareholding, we invest in businesses. We, therefore, share the risks but we also share the rewards. We invest at what is called the seed and early stage, which is the point of highest risk for any business. Members will be aware that establishing any business is a risky proposition. However, setting up a knowledge enterprise involves even more risk, particularly in the west. Some of the companies we support have already enjoyed success and we hope they will become global players from their west of Ireland base. We literally invest in entrepreneurs and their ideas, vision and business plans. We work extremely hard to ensure that their vision is achieved and that jobs are created, particularly in the knowledge economy, in our area.

To date, we have invested almost €31 million in 78 enterprises across the region. These companies and projects employ more than 1,200 people and almost 60% of the money we provide has been invested in rural areas outside the hubs and gateways. We follow quite a rigorous evaluation process. Our organisation is a member of both the Irish Venture Capital Association, IVCA, and the European Venture Capital Association, EVCA, and we employ the best practice guidelines they set down in our evaluation process. Ours is a commercial fund and we have already started revolving our investment. To date, €4 million has come back into the fund and has been reinvested in the area. The model we are trying to achieve involves it not being a handout but rather a hand up. We hope the money we provide will return and be re-invested in the region.

This programme is specifically ring-fenced for the west. In that regard, it is one of the few such programmes of which I am aware. It is unique and also complementary. No other State agency provides risk capital and invests it on the model of providing loans that we employ. Some of that has come about on foot of domestic legislation. More important, however, we obtained EU approval, under state aid and risk capital guidelines, to operate as we do. Ours is the only State agency in the country that has received such approval, which is significant and which means the region has an additional resource.

I referred earlier to the challenges we face and the fact that we started from a much lower base than other parts of the country. Extra incentives and support are required. The western investment fund is one of the mechanisms that can provide these. We hope that in time it will prove to be a major catalyst in the context of encouraging entrepreneurship and job creation in the region. In light of the turbulent economic climate that obtains at present, the fund is needed now more than ever. Our companies have always found it difficult to compete for a variety of reasons. One of the basic reasons relates to the distance from Dublin, where 17 of the 18 private sector members of the IVCA are based. Less than 10% of the moneys these firms invest come into our region. There is a gap and it will remain in place. We carried out a survey among our companies in recent months and over 80% stated they expected it to be more difficult to raise funds going forward. The companies to which I refer already experienced difficulties in this regard in the past.

I wish to outline the future vision for our region. Among OECD countries, it is recognised that regions are the drivers of economic development and comparative advantage. In a global context, it is necessary to exploit what is unique and distinctive about an area in order to drive regional and national economies. A good example in this regard relates to the area of energy. The west has some of the best ocean and wind energy in Europe. This is a major resource and there is an opportunity that it might be exploited in the context of creating jobs in the area of technology, reducing our dependency on foreign fossil fuels, developing security of supply and reducing carbon emissions, which would have a positive impact in respect of climate change.

Electricity costs in Ireland are the highest in Europe and this places major pressure on our enterprises. In that context, perhaps we could consider engaging in a paradigm shift by developing an international energy centre in the west. The model for the latter could be similar to that which obtained with regard to the development of the International Financial Services Centre in Dublin.

Another part of our vision for the future is the development of a world-class infrastructure in order to underpin our quality of life, our cost-competitiveness and our enterprises. At the same time, however, we must retain our sense of community and our heritage and environment, which are unique and innate to our region. As already stated, people recognise the quality of life that is on offer in the west and we really want to retain this because it also makes the region unique.

We wish to develop and support the creative and entrepreneurial spirit among people. We are particularly interested in the creative aspect. When people think of the west it is usually in the context of culture, music, language and creativity. There is a major opportunity to exploit the latter and create sustainable employment. Such employment is extremely suitable to rural areas. Our organisation has worked hard during the past decade. Our vision is not only to catch up with our more prosperous east coast neighbours but also to become one of the leading regions in the world.

I hope I have shown members the WDC has been successful in delivering on its remit of fostering and promoting the social and economic development of the western region; we have been instrumental in transforming the perception of the region instilling confidence and pride of place among our citizens and investors; we have helped develop highly innovative rural economy initiatives that are generating wealth and jobs in rural areas; we have played an important role in supporting the development of knowledge-based enterprises and jobs through our western investment fund; and we have articulated and supported the case for investment in enabling infrastructure and balanced regional development. Despite the progress of recent years, our region faces serious challenges in the future and needs the support of a dedicated agency such as ourselves now more than ever. I look forward to the Government's continued commitment to western development and the work of the WDC and the committee's support in helping us deliver our remit.

I thank Ms Buckley for that comprehensive report. Members will ask questions and Dr. O'Hara and Mr. Brannigan may wish to come in then in response to questions pertinent to their areas of responsibility. I call Deputy Ring.

I fought hard when Fine Gael was in government to get the commission up and running. One would wonder what is the current position following recent media reports. How many staff has the commission? How much are annual staff costs? How much funding is provided by the Government per year? Has an annual report been done for 2007? If so, has it been published and can we get a copy of it?

There is a great deal of concern about the western investment fund. Ms Buckley said the commission has invested €30.8 million in 78 enterprises, of which €4 million was returned by companies. Recent media reports stated many companies have received funding but some have not made their returns to the Companies Office and many of them are in serious difficulty. How are companies assessed? The investment fund helps to get companies up and running. According to the reports I have read over the past few weeks, it is very concerning and upsetting to see taxpayers' money was given to companies that are unable to make returns to the Companies Office or make a profit. Perhaps Ms Buckley will confirm or deny that. How much money was returned by the companies? How many companies have made payments to the commission and the investment fund that can be used by other people who want to invest?

I refer to the reports that the Government is talking about amalgamating the commission with another quango. I am asking Ms Buckley to defend the commission. Why should the commission be kept and not amalgamated with another body? I am from the west and I fought hard to get it up and running. It created many difficulties within our party at the time. John Bruton was Taoiseach and Donal Carey was the Minister of State who set it up. The Minister for Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs has been very supportive of it. I would like Ms Buckley to spell out why the Western Development Commission should continue and why it should not be amalgamated with another body.

Ms Gillian Buckley

The number of staff is 15.5 full-time equivalents. We have one contractor in addition to one whose contract expires next May. Our salary bill for 2007 was €1.057 million. Our funding from the Government breaks down as a revenue budget of approximately €2.5 million this year and an allocation under the national development plan of €4 million for the western investment fund.

Under our legislation we are required to submit our annual report to the Minister by 31 March each year and we have always achieved that. Subsequently, we must also submit draft accounts to the Comptroller and Auditor General who then audits them. Our annual report is published on our website. We were examining this but we have taken on board the proposal that annual reports should not be published in hard copy as a cost saving mechanism and, therefore, they are published on our website.

Is the annual report on the website now?

Ms Gillian Buckley

Yes. We are unable to publish our annual report until we obtain approval from our parent Department. While legally we are required to submit it by 31 March each year, we are unable to publish until it is formally approved. As soon as we obtain formal approval, we publish it as quickly as possible. The turnaround time is much faster because we are publishing on the Internet.

I set out in my presentation how the western investment fund operates. It is a risk capital investment fund and we are operating at the highest level of risk within that spectrum. There is market failure and that is why there is a fund. If the private sector provided this funding, there would be no need for it. There is a dilemma in the region, yet we need to nurture and grow a knowledge enterprise base there. When we invest in the companies, we are almost investing in a concept in some cases. That stage is called proof of concept. A person has an idea, sees an opportunity and he or she needs to develop its feasibility.

The next stage is prototype development, followed by getting out to market through beta sites. The company has no income during all these stages because it is not in sales generation mode. This is called pre-commercialisation and, therefore these companies are dependent on investment from the likes of ourselves, venture capitalists, business angels and so forth. In the early stages of these businesses, they accumulate substantial losses. They are solvent in that they have positive shareholders' funds but they accumulate losses. When a company reaches break-even stage and becomes profitable, it takes a number of months or years to turnaround a loss on a balance sheet basis to become a profitable and viable company. This is the nature of the beast. It costs money to develop global companies in the knowledge area based on intellectual property and significant investment is required. I assure members we do this in as prudent a manner as possible. While it is high risk, we do everything in our power to mitigate the risk. We are after all investing taxpayers' moneys. We need a social dividend and financial return on the investment.

We have a small cohort of highly qualified and experienced investment personnel. Three accountants out of the four on the team work on the fund and they joined the organisation with between 15 and 20 years experience from the private sector in banking, accountancy and business. We also have a fund advisory panel, comprising independent business people with expertise in investment and running and operating a business. Our evaluation process examines a business plan commercially, which is the basic criterion. Is there an opportunity? What is the strength of the management team? What is the product? How are the stages progressing? Investment is, therefore, made on the basis of progress with the business plan. A number of our companies have had huge success. They have become global players. Recently, one of our companies, Lightstorm Networks, was part of the trade mission to China and signed a major deal with one of the largest telecommunications companies in the world, which is a sign of the success we can achieve with a dedicated resource such as the western investment fund to make that happen.

Our funding comes back in two ways — loan finance repaid normally on a monthly or quarterly basis. We work to ensure the terms suit the investment and do not put additional pressure on the company. In some cases, we may have a moratorium on capital while a project is being built but, normally, it is a straightforward monthly repayment and that comes back almost straight away.

The equity investments are significantly different. In those cases, when we invest we become a shareholder and have the same rights and obligations as other shareholders. Normally, exit from a venture capital investment is on a trade sale or a listing on the Stock Exchange, called an IPO. These take a number of years to materialise. When we started, that would have been a five to seven-year period. Our investments started ramping up around 2003. Given dot.bomb, 9/11 and other issues, that whole market has stretched out significantly. In the current economic climate — we talk about the current difficulties, but we saw the credit crunch start around August of last year — trade sales and IPOs are very much lengthening out. Therefore, we would say that for the type of fund and at the stage we come in, one is talking about ten or 12 years before one sees a return.

Deputy Ring asked why we should retain the Western Development Commission. I hope I have outlined in my presentation the value of the work we have done. There has been significant progress, but there are also significant challenges for the region. There is a requirement for dedicated resources to ensure the west continues to benefit from economic development, that we get the necessary investment in infrastructure and that we can develop enterprise and jobs in our region. The Western Development Commission has allowed a focus for the region that might not otherwise have happened. To subsume the organisation could mean that focus would disappear and would be lost to the region.

I welcome the delegation to the committee and would like to put some questions on the rural economy. I am interested in the amount of broadband penetration in the region. The documentation states 7.4% of households can access the Internet, but that could be dial-up. What is the level of broadband penetration in the area? This is key to supporting the region in terms of the way modern business should be conducted.

What is the position with regard to infrastructure, such as roads and the rail network? What is spent on this area? What about renewable energy? I visited the wind energy farm at Bellacorick, but how many other wind farm planning applications have been lodged for the area? It would be a key driver for the local economy to have an increase in wind energy production. With the significant prevailing wind in the area, it is essential that as many applications as possible in appropriate sites can go ahead, supported by the agriculture sector.

I am interested in rural tourism and availed of the Green Box tourism initiative many times, particularly in Leitrim and Fermanagh and parts of Donegal, Sligo and Cavan. Is there a plan to roll out the project to the other areas in the region? It is a significant way forward in terms of helping increase farm incomes through bed and breakfast provision, hill-walking and fishing etc. Tourism is a significant sector and at a time of peak oil and climate change more people may stay at home for their holidays. Therefore, we need to boost our rural tourism products. Coming from a rural constituency, I know how important that is, whether it is hill-walking, coarse fishing or angling with catch and release, or whatever people can do in a sustainable way in rural areas. Has the commission any figures on this area?

The organic food sector has grown by approximately 82%. Has Ms Buckley any statistics on how many farms have converted to organics in the region? There are opportunities in the creative sector for women working from home and that is the reason broadband is so essential. What does Ms Buckley mean by the opportunities in this sector in terms of working from home and keeping a balance between working and family life. We live in a stressful era and it is difficult to balance commuting or child care and work when both parents work outside the home. What figures are available on the number of people working from home and what type of activity is classified as creative?

Ms Gillian Buckley

Perhaps my colleagues will deal with those questions.

Dr. Patricia O’Hara

I will deal with some of the infrastructure questions. Deputy White raised the issue of broadband infrastructure and access. The figures from the census in 2006 — there has been some improvement since — show that approximately 12.7% of households in the seven counties of the western region had access to broadband. A further 30% had access to the Internet, but did not have broadband. The figures have risen slightly since then. Currently, countrywide it is estimated that 20% to 25% of households cannot get broadband. This problem results from how the market works, whereby it is not profitable for the private sector to invest in more sparsely populated areas. It also relates to the quality of the existing lines and the technologies used. There is also a problem in that the technologies we have in place have line of sight issues etc. that make them problematic for delivery in rural areas.

Due to the fact that we see broadbrand provision as a fundamental infrastructure, in the same way as electricity was in the 1950s in rural areas, we have been very active in this regard. Since the inception of the commission, we have been active on the Information Society Commission and chaired the sub-committee of the broadband commission. Since then we have had constant engagement with the various interests in the field. We were very active in promoting the most recent national broadband scheme.

As committee members know, the Government is committed to rolling out another broadband scheme and it is working on that. The Minister is very concerned about the situation. There are difficulties with regard to putting the national broadband scheme together. There are market failure and displacement issues. In other words, where should the State come in and where and when should it displace private sector investment? There are also technical issues, such as the kinds of technology to be used and their state of development.

There is no question but that now there are terrestrial technologies that can deliver broadband for us throughout the country. However, the problem is whether they will be able to deliver next generation broadband, which will require greater band width and much higher speed. Some members are probably familiar with this issue. That is the reason the Department is looking at using the radio spectrum and making parts of it available for deployment of broadband infrastructure to rural areas. This will happen in the context of the shift from analog to digital television, which frees up critical parts of the radio spectrum that can be then used to deploy broadband to rural areas. Using this part of the radio spectrum allows the use of technologies that do not have the same kind of technical limitations as the current ones.

This is an area that is being addressed in the United States and the UK and it is an area in which we hope to see some developments. We are investigating the matter and contributing to the consultation process that is going on in the Department about policy around the radio spectrum. It is an area in which we will see future development. If the committee is interested in this area, it is one it would be well to keep an eye on. The Department is seeking submissions on the issue.

The Deputy also mentioned roads and rail. The commission has always been active on the rail issue. When the commission started we were conscious of the poor quality of services to the major centres in the western region. Thankfully, the services to Sligo, Galway, etc., have greatly improved. After a long struggle they have improved dramatically and we welcome that. The improvement in services and the additional service instituted in the past few years from Limerick to Ennis have shown that once services are provided, people will use them. The numbers that have taken up the services have reflected this.

We have also been very active in promoting and working with other interests in the region on the western rail corridor because we see this as crucial for tourism to the region and as an important, sustainable form of transport for commuters. In recent days we have been looking at the commuter potential for the line north of Galway. The 2006 statistics about travel to work suggest that there is a greater need or there is a greater potential pool of commuters north of Galway than there is south of Galway. Currently the line is being delivered from Ennis up to Athenry and we would be very concerned that the next stage would proceed as planned.

We would also be active in the whole area of the overall sustainable travel agenda and one of our policy team was involved in the consultations to do with the national strategy for sustainable travel. Roads are fundamental in the western region. Approximately 96% of everything that moves in the western region travels on the roads. We have been active in that space also, in terms of pointing out the need, not just for the main arteries, the major inter-urban routes and the major routes to Sligo and Donegal and Mayo, but we have also promoted the radial route, the Atlantic corridor. As Ms Buckley mentioned, we were the first to say that it is very important that this be a four-lane road. We would also argue very strongly that roads like the N4 and the N5, which are not in fact major inter-urban routes in the same way as the other roads connecting Dublin to the cities, really need significant investment as well, particularly the N5. When all the highways are finished and then one enters the region and must travel on all the bad roads, they become a kind of marker of underdevelopment and this has both a psychological and a physical impact on confidence in the region, on the perception of the region as a site for inward investment and so on. We regard the roads issue as being very important. Although we recognise we are in a very challenging economic time and we need to deal with public investment, in that context we are concerned that there should be regional balance in whatever kind of cutbacks or budgetary adjustments are made in roads investment.

We could say a lot more about this but I will turn to my colleague, Mr. Brannigan, who will speak about some of the other issues raised by Deputy White.

Mr. Ian Brannigan

I thank Deputy White for her questions and I shall try to answer them. In terms of renewable energy, from the perspective of the Western Development Commission, we believe in trying to play to our strengths and wind, wave and wood biomass would be some of these strengths. Her specific question was about the number of wind farm planning applications. I do not have that information and it is not part of the remit of the commission. However, she correctly points out that there is certainly a predominance of wind generation within the region, which we support. We have supported wind generation in the past in a number of ways, such as the publication of documents to allow community involvement in such projects to catch the wind some years ago and we have also worked with communities and related parties on feasibility phases of wind farm projects. We have been involved from the community and rural economy point of view. I will refer briefly to the renewable energy spectrum and a reference made earlier by Ms Buckley. We are very excited about the wood biomass because as the Deputy will know, 40% of the afforested region in the State is in the western region so this is naturally something we would like to use. We are working with other partners such as Teagasc, SEI, some businesses and local authorities. The wood heat energy strategy which we have devised is intended to grow threefold over the next decade in terms of wood heat usage. This is really good from an economic point of view. It means €15 million a year and perhaps 900 jobs if everything comes to fruition. In terms of quality of life and sustainability the fact that it takes 620,000 tonnes of CO2 out of our economy, equal to 92,000 cars, is significant in itself in terms of emissions.

The Deputy mentioned the Green Box and rural tourism and I am delighted she did. We had partners such as Fáilte Ireland in the early stages of our work on eco-tourism. We were instrumental in working with the Green Box to bring it to where it is today. It is based in Manorhamilton in an area of the country which must cope with a lot of challenges in terms of rural tourism but also a lot of opportunities of which eco-tourism is one. The Green Box has a membership of more than 140 companies and is working on product development to attract tourists from countries such as Germany and Denmark into the region.

The Deputy asked whether this will be rolled out. This is really a question for the Green Box because it is a good friend to us now but it is a stand-alone organisation. There are definitely moves afoot to try to achieve that but I would not like to comment on the record.

A question was asked about agrifood. We do not have the statistics for the numbers of organic farms. We have helped to establish some organisations such as Atlantic Organics and the Western Organic Network who between them have nearly 400 members, so this gives the committee an idea of the critical mass of that sector.

The creative economy is a significant sector. In these challenging and recessionary times, we are very much focused on looking at strategic development in indigenous firms and sectors that are rooted in the region. We believe that the creative economy is very significant. We have 4,700 businesses in the region working in the creative economy with 11,000 direct employees and more than €500 million in annual turnover. This is significant because we believe many of these businesses are rooted in the region and would be very difficult to displace. They do not export a lot, so there is a significant opportunity to create an export market. The Deputy's question related to the idea of work-life balance which is strong in the creative economy and it has many people working from home. I cannot say how many of the 4,700 businesses work from home but I know that it is predominantly part-time or short-time work, so it fits the profile of work-life balance. I will provide more details if required.

I thank the delegation for the presentation. I live in Ballaghadereen and I am very aware of the focus the commission brings to western affairs and the need for balanced regional development.

Considering the state of the economy how important is it to continue with the policy of balanced regional development? Dr. O'Hara referred to the lesser roads in the west the upgrading of which may be delayed as a result of budgetary constraints. What would be the consequences of any slowdown in the balanced regional development of infrastructure which has been the policy in recent times?

Deputy Ring referred to risk capital. Has the downturn in the economy had an effect on risk capital? This is a very topical subject. Has the delegation noticed an increase in demand for this capitalisation fund as a result of that downturn in the economy? Could that fund be adapted to deal with the current situation which is pertinent throughout the country but particularly in the west? Broadband has been referred to. I know of small businesses that have come to the west for the lifestyle but I know that some people have had to leave the west because they lost contracts as a result of not having access to broadband. Everyone accepts the point but this is having serious consequences particularly in rural areas. High-speed broadband needs to be rolled out very quickly. To tie that in, did the Western Development Commission find that its LookWest campaign was in some way hampered by the lack of broadband in rural areas?

My last point is about diversification. Obviously we have the downturn in the economy, with jobs being lost all over the place in the construction industry. What potential is there for diversification? I am thinking of rural areas in particular with agritourism, as the witnesses mentioned. That section may be under pressure because of a proliferation of new hotels in recent years as well as bed and breakfast establishments and so on. What potential is there for developing that in present circumstances?

Before the witnesses respond, I will call Senator Kelly as he needs to return to the Seanad.

A few people mentioned broadband. I have great sympathy with the witnesses regarding broadband. The Western Development Commission cannot do much about it as it comes down to the Department. Until the Minister gets his act together or is replaced we will not be able to——

He has got his act together.

He has not got his act together. The Deputy should let me speak. I did not interrupt her. Until he gets his act together, unfortunately rural economies will always be at second source when it comes to creating new jobs. As someone who comes from a rural area, I am a large promoter of balanced regional development. In a previous life I did some work with the Western Development Commission. It is an organisation that is worthy. However, the phrase that it works in theory but not in practice may apply to it. As my party's spokesperson on tourism, I would like to ask how much of the commission's budget is dedicated towards this. I have serious questions about the overlap with a multiplicity of tourism agencies, representatives of some of which have appeared before the committee. Representatives of other agencies will appear before the committee at a later date.

I see a drain on resources based on having so many multiple agencies in tourism. It is a theme to which I will continue to return. My issue is with the decision-making, consistency, the marketing fund and how budgets are allocated particularly in the creation of new products. I have often heard people talking about the rural tourism product, but there is no such thing. It is like saying there is an urban tourism product. It is crazy. There are products, but they are themes. They are really brandished about as if they were products in themselves. To define those is impossible. What we are really talking about is creating more products, for example, in the area of wellness, walking or heritage. What work is going on there, especially working with John Concannon of Fáilte Ireland and his team? I would be surprised if a large budget is allocated in this area. I presume it is more about tick-tacking and ensuring everybody is aware of what everybody else is doing because of the multiplicity of agencies.

In that area also there are various groups that work through the Department of Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs. While I know some of them are changing, how does the Western Development Commission work with them? What is the overlap in that area?

Regarding the western investment fund, there are many similarities between the questions relating to the Western Development Commission and to Shannon Development, representatives of which will appear before the committee in December. I share some of Deputy Ring's concerns over reports about the western investment fund. I apologise for having been a few minutes late and missing the start of the presentation. I ask the witnesses to give a sectoral breakdown of the areas in which the investments will be made. How many investments that the Western Development Commission has worked with have failed because the divine trinity regarding technology start-ups is not being maintained? What I mean is that we have the educational background but simply do not have the investment techniques from the Government or the infrastructure, particularly broadband. Are there examples of that?

The Western Development Commission also works with the agrifood sector. I again ask about overlap with the various agencies and the Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food. Have any of the small and medium sized enterprises with which it is working felt any stranglehold over them based on the continual EU legislation that is coming through in this area, particularly HACCP legislation?

How did the Western Development Commission judge the success of the LookWest campaign? On what practical basis does it judge it? While I may have missed it, I was surprised that the witnesses did not talk about regional airports. How does the commission work with them? What are the witnesses thoughts about their future and the latest developments in that area as many of them have been in the news recently especially with the imposition of taxes upon them by the Government?

I believe there was a project a number of years ago called Real Ireland. Is that correct?

Ms Gillian Buckley

It was True Ireland.

How much was spent on it? How many people are employed in it? Where did it go and where is it now?

I thank the Chairman for affording me the opportunity to speak even though I am not a member of the committee. I appreciate the work the Western Development Commission is doing. It is good to have a dedicated agency fighting for the western seaboard, as I am sure the Chairman will agree. I ask the witnesses to elaborate on the gas situation. Bord Gáis carried out a survey in 2006 and not one of the smaller towns in the western area was included. What did the Western Development Commission present that led to a change in policy regarding 11 towns? The commission has acted very much as a watchdog. In Ireland we depend on Government reports. I believe the commission's intervention in that regard has been extraordinary. What exactly did the Western Development Commission do other than what Bord Gáis did? What did it do differently from what the people who carried out the report did?

Regarding sustainability of existing employment, 38% of men work in agriculture and construction. The downturn in those two industries will have a major impact on the survival of those sectors? Would the Western Development Commission have a different approach from that of the Government? What would its approach be to tackling this serious issue given the 59% increase in the live register in the past 12 months, with a 72% increase in the number of men on the register?

Knock airport is very positive for the west, as are the airports in Galway, Sligo, Shannon and Donegal. Knock airport is in the region. The €10 tax that is to be imposed by the Government will have a negative effect on the western area, for which the commission has responsibility. It will have to be reversed. What are the commission's views on the matter? We are delighted to pay the €10 departure tax at Knock airport because it is directly used to fund the airport's activities, such as the €2 million development. The commission has done excellent work on the Green Box initiative and in the transport area, for example. The downturn in the agriculture and construction sectors will have an impact on the region. The work of the commission, as a dedicated agency to develop the west of Ireland, is now needed more than ever.

Emigration has always been an option over the years. This safety valve may need to be used again. Some people are going to London to work on construction projects ahead of the 2012 Olympic Games. I learned last night that many young Irishmen are going to Australia. Over the years, the economy of the west of Ireland has been subsidised by those working in the UK and the US, unfortunately. We need to attract those who are leaving the west back to the region as quickly as possible. When the main earner in a family emigrates to Australia or the US, we need to help him or her to get back to the west every two, three or four weeks. Do the representatives of the commission think Knock airport can play a role in that regard by offering more flights, including flights to the US?

Ms Gillian Buckley

Rather than answering each member of the committee individually, my colleagues and I will group the questions and split them between us.

I ask Ms Buckley and her colleagues to bear in mind that we have some time constraints. Some of the members who spoke earlier may wish to ask further questions.

Ms Gillian Buckley

I will answer the questions that were asked about the fund, my colleague, Dr. O'Hara, will answer the questions on infrastructure and Mr. Brannigan will answer the questions on rural development and the LookWest scheme.

Deputy O'Mahony asked how the fund can adapt to the current situation. He also asked whether there is increased need for, and demand on, the fund. It is clear that need and demand have increased. Part of the increase in demand has resulted from the existence of the fund. Companies producing medical devices, for example, have shown strong demand, especially in the past couple of years, for the funds that are available to help entrepreneurs to establish knowledge enterprises in the region. The west has a strong cohort of multinationals in this sector. As a result, indigenous companies are starting to be established to produce medical devices. The west can perform to a high level in this growing global sector, which has seen an increase in demand.

It is clear that everyone is being put under pressure during the current downturn. Each day, we hear about the pressure being encountered by successful and well established businesses that cannot get access to basic things like bank overdrafts. Our companies have always had that difficulty. Somebody has to take a risk by supporting businesses that do not have assets or track records. Somebody has to take the first step if a cohort of indigenous companies is to be developed in the western region. It is clear that we have to be in that space. We continuously review our strategy. We have certain constraints. The relevant legislation and the EU approval rules set out specifically how we should operate. We continuously examine how we can adapt ourselves. We have done that in the past and we will continue to do that. I often emphasise that we do not invest in areas in which the private sector can and should be investing. We invest where there is market failure.

I hope my colleagues and I can respond to all the questions that were asked. If we do not do so now, we will do so at the end of the meeting. I will give the committee details of the percentage of the commission's money that is invested in each sector. Some 8% of it is spent in the area of natural resources; 28% is spent in the information and communications technology sector; 25% is spent in the area of life sciences, which includes medical devices; 11% is spent in the manufacturing sector, 23% of it is spent in the area of social and enterprise infrastructure; and 5% of it is spent in the tourism industry. That is the overall breakdown of our expenditure. Venture capital funds tend to concentrate on the knowledge economy. That is why expenditure in areas like information and communications technology and life sciences is so high. We are trying to strengthen the natural advantage our region enjoys in that regard, largely as a result of the presence of multinational companies. That is an indication of the importance of the multinational sector to the economy of a region. We are all familiar with the spin-off from the closure of Digital in the early 1990s. A strong technology sector has grown from that in the western region.

We were also asked about the percentage of our projects that have failed. We are audited by the Comptroller and Auditor General on an annual basis. We conduct a portfolio evaluation, in accordance with the guidelines set out by the European Venture Capital Association, as part of that audit process. Our latest audited annual accounts pertain to 2007. Those accounts indicate that we had written off €1.3 million, or 4.8%, of the €27 million we had invested at that stage.

Reference has been made to ireland.ie, a website that was developed under the western development tourism programme. We helped to establish the tourism programme in conjunction with our partners, including Fáilte Ireland, the regional tourism authorities, Leader companies, the Office of Public Works, bodies in the private sector and various third level institutions. The organisations in question came together as a kind of steering committee to focus on rural tourism. The overall cost of the tourism programme, over its lifespan, was €644,000. It employed an executive and an administrative support officer over four or five years. The work of the programme was independently reviewed by the GCC last year. Fáilte Ireland commissioned the report to try to learn lessons from the programme. The report commented positively on the achievements of the western development tourism programme. It pointed out that the programme had developed a wide range of projects and enterprises at a modest cost. The report also mentioned that some jobs were created as a result of the initiative.

One of the programme's most successful, albeit intangible, achievements was the co-ordination of resources to focus on special niches within the tourism sector. The structure of the programme has been replicated by Fáilte Ireland in the region. The success of the programme is an example of the success one can enjoy when one brings people around the table in a collaborative manner to achieve synergies and focus on achievements. I ask my colleague, Dr. O'Hara, to answer the questions that were asked about broadband and balanced regional development.

Dr. Patricia O’Hara

I will try to be brief. I appreciate that we are a little short on time. Deputy O'Mahony spoke about balanced regional development, which is a critical aspect of the work of the Western Development Commission. All our work is underpinned by the fact that balanced regional development is a national objective of the Government. We aim to contribute to balanced regional development in a fundamental manner. We are concerned that the focus will shift away from that national objective in these more difficult times. We are worried that a lesser degree of importance will be attached to the 20-year national spatial strategy, which underpins the objective and is a key guide to public sector investment. If the expenditure of taxpayers' money on roads and broadband, for example, is not underpinned by a national strategy that takes account of the spatial distribution of development and people throughout the country as a whole, it is inevitable that the strong will win out and the weak will be less able to attract investment. The public purse needs to be used to redress some of the imbalances. It is important that expenditure should take place in a strategic framework. Balanced regional development is of fundamental importance.

I emphasise that we believe strongly in the need for broadband services. We follow up that issue all the time as we engage with the relevant Department and the various players in the broadband sector. We follow up the case studies of companies. We know of companies that have left the western region because they could not get broadband. We have published a number of reports on broadband. Our report on rural enterprises highlights the need for broadband. We are committed to addressing that issue. We are working with the Government and other parties to try to find ways of addressing it. Other countries are also having difficulties in this area.

A number of Deputies expressed concern about the challenges the western region will face as the economy diversifies. We have pointed out that a large proportion of men in the region are employed either in the primary sectors of agriculture, forestry or fisheries, or in construction. The position in the primary sectors would be much more serious were it not for the safety valve of construction which has provided off-farm and part-time employment for other people in the primary sector in the past ten or 15 years. As the construction sector contracts, male unemployment will become a serious problem, as is borne out in figures showing that the number of males on the live register increased by 72% in the past year. Clearly, live register figures differ slightly from unemployment figures. The problem is serious, particularly when one considers that more than 40% of working women in the region are employed in the public sector. If the downturn were to have an impact on the public sector, the problem would be exacerbated.

Members from rural areas will be aware that in many farming households the salary of a woman working in the public sector is very important in securing the livelihood of the family. We are conscious that farming is increasingly concentrated in the southern half of the country, with few farms in the western region capable of providing a viable income to a family without supplementary income. This is a serious problem.

I do not wish to go down the road of emigration, to which Deputy Feighan alluded, because it would be a major watershed for the western region. The joy of working in the region for the past ten years has been the recognition among parents that, for the first time since the Famine, they can look forward to their children finding employment not only in Ireland but in the western region. If this trend reverses to a significant extent, it will have many detrimental effects, not least of which will be economic, but also in a psychological and social sense. Conscious of this potential, we will, in the coming year, place strong emphasis on trying to understand employment and ongoing restructuring efforts and putting forward proposals targeting specific sectors, for example, training for men who become dislocated and focusing on securing the future of smaller towns which are often dependent on construction, self-employment and older production industries, such as food processing. This is evident in Ballaghaderreen, County Roscommon. We face serious problems which will change our work programme in the coming years. These problems are returning us to the point at which we started at the end of the 1990s.

I detected in Senator Alan Kelly's contribution a real concern about overlap between the Western Development Commission's work with that of other agencies. I assure the Senator that from the day the commission was established, all those working in it shared a conviction that it was necessary to avoid duplication. Given our remit, we are conscious that we could fall into this trap. The commission has deliberately set itself up to be policy customiser for the region, in other words, acting in a constructive manner to point out to policy makers how best to serve the western region. We work closely with the Department of Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs, our parent Department, in this endeavour.

On the issue of rural development work, Senator Kelly cited the example of tourism. The Western Development Commission started from the same position as the Senator, namely, asking what is the rural tourism product and whether too many agencies are involved in this area. This drove our blueprint for tourism development which we drew up at the beginning of the commission's lifetime. From the start, we engaged with all the relevant tourism agencies to get them to work together to develop a better product. This model has been replicated throughout our work in agrifood, the creative economy, renewable energy and so forth.

The Western Development Commission is not a delivery agency but acts as a form of facilitator to bring together the relevant agencies. Instead of doing the work of Teagasc or Fáilte Ireland, we get the latter to sit at a table with tourism providers and think strategically about the needs of our region. The model we have adopted has been documented and is available on our website in a document entitled, Models of Rural Development.

The other point raised was regional airports. The Western Development Commission distinguishes between regional airports with international access, such as Knock and Shannon airports, and those which largely serve the domestic markets. In that context we place considerable emphasis on the importance of the international airports for our region. As members will be aware, the knowledge economy is based on the movement of knowledge. Knowledge moves over the Internet, which is the reason broadband is of such importance, or in heads, which is the reason people have to move quickly in the knowledge economy. In our discussions with multinational companies and knowledge based enterprises in the region, they consistently stress the need for swift access in and out of the region. These companies are global players which need to be able to get in and out of the region quickly and for this reason the regional airports are extremely important.

Deputy Feighan asked about the tax levy on flights announced in the budget. The measure appears to place regional airports at a disadvantage given that the tax was conceived as one in which the amount to be paid would be related to the distance travelled. I understand representatives of Shannon Airport and Knock airport have been in discussion with the Government about the issue. I hope the measure will be altered in the Finance Bill to ensure regional airports are not discriminated against as such a development would be worrying.

The issue of gas was also raised. Developments in this area are an interesting example of the policy work done by the Western Development Commission. Developing policy is the job of the Government, rather than the commission, whose job it is to look at policy and ask how it fits with our needs and whether we can make constructive proposals to make it better fit with the problems facing the west. In the case of gas, we unpicked the rationale for the policy, as it existed at that time. This related to the manner in which calculations were made regarding future demand for gas and how it would be deployed in towns and so forth. As a result of doing a complicated analysis, the Western Development Commission was able to make a case for changing some of the calculations to enable other towns to qualify to receive gas. This is precisely what happened as Bord Gáis took on board our suggestions and made the necessary adjustments to allow other towns to qualify to receive gas. The pipeline is only now being delivered but more towns will qualify for gas.

This decision was driven by our conviction that attracting investment into the region and developing indigenous enterprises requires a level playing pitch in terms of energy costs. If individuals, companies or foreign investors are deliberating on where to locate a business, they will choose locations with the best energy prices and options. It is important, therefore, that towns in the western region have energy options, particularly given that the resource is located in the region and is being transported via a pipeline through the region. My explanation for how we arrived at the current position in terms of gas provide an overall rationale for the policy work done by the Western Development Commission as it tries to improve the fit between national policy and the region's needs.

Since the establishment of the investment fund in 2004, approximately €24 million has been expended. It is alarming that while €13 million was spent in County Galway and €5 million was expended in County Mayo, County Clare received €942,000, County Sligo received €407,000 and County Leitrim received only €242,000. Not one funding application has been submitted from County Leitrim since 2004. The point of the fund is to assist areas in the region such as counties Sligo and Leitrim which are experiencing difficulties. What efforts are being made to encourage applications for funding to provide assistance with start-ups and so forth?

Ms Gillian Buckley

The important question asked by Deputy Ring highlights the holistic approach the Western Development Commission takes to developing the region. Different parts of the region have different needs and strengths at particular times. Our investment fund is available throughout the region and we respond to applications which must be evaluated on the merits of the investment proposition. The level of applications to the fund from the north west is not as high as from the southern part of the region and that is borne out in a number of areas. Even within the region there is almost a north-south divide. Much of our efforts in regard to the LookWest campaign and encouraging and facilitating people to move west has focused on the entire region. We have worked closely with Leitrim County Council and Sligo County Council to put forward the attractiveness of those counties.

Our work in rural development has been important to the more rural counties. I refer to rural tourism, the creative economy and organic agrifood. Green Box tourism and Atlantic Organics have their headquarters in Leitrim. Job creation on the rural development side has been focused almost more in the northern half of the region. We hope the incubation of industry and enterprise will develop companies that are brought to a stage where they can be interested in attracting venture capital investment and that would give us a cohort. We are almost trying to develop a pipeline ourselves in that regard.

The Western Development Commission is only a small part of the overall picture. We have 15 staff. Our work is achieved through getting others to develop and to focus on the region, to instill confidence and entrepreneurial culture and ability and the funding resource to make that happen. That has been the broader focus of our work. Having a focus on balanced regional development and on investment in enabling infrastructure has been a fundamental part of our work also in order for those counties and regions to have a level playing pitch.

I wish to follow through on Deputy Ring's question, which was reasonable. There is a north-south divide. I appreciate that the WDC can only deal with applications it receives but is there a disconnect between the northern region and the WDC? I accept everything is on the Internet and many reports were carried out. Does Ms Buckley feel that people are not familiar with the work of the WDC and if that is the case, would she consider having an open day or giving opportunities to businesses in the north-west region to familiarise themselves with what is available?

Ms Gillian Buckley

We continually try to promote the fund and the organisation. We do that mainly through the mainstream enterprise agencies, namely, Enterprise Ireland and the county development board mechanism, which has been an important route in that regard.

We are also involved in incubator schemes in third level colleges and there are enterprise centres at universities and institutes of technology. The knowledge economy cohort is coming from that sector. It is a challenge and that requires a major focus and effort to bring on those counties. It is interesting that Donegal achieved 13% of our investment, which is more centred around Sligo and Leitrim, and, to some extent, Roscommon. County Clare is slightly different in that there are state-aid issues that prohibit us from investing because it is not an Objective One county in the region. Overall, we have a good spread. I emphasise that our investment spread is 60:40 in favour of rural over urban, which is almost the exact opposite of a normal venture capital fund, so there has been a good rural spread in that regard.

All politics is local and we are fortunate in that we have a regional airport in west Donegal. Like other members, I am concerned about the levy. While it may only be €2, we have a weekly summer flight to Rotterdam for which there is no subsistence. The airport is making an investment and I am concerned that the levy cannot be absorbed. As Dr. O'Hara suggested, I hope the Finance Bill will deal with the issue. The levy might only be €2 or €10 but in Donegal we share a market with City of Derry Airport and if Carrickfinn has to pay the €2 each way that would not give us a level playing pitch. Like Dr. O'Hara, I believe good sense will prevail. However small the charge may be, it could hinder the development of the airports.

I have a final question on an issue I raised previously at another venue. Reference was made to wood heat and energy. I am aware of a wood pellet company that wants to set up privately in Mayo but it cannot get a supply of wood from Coillte. It is difficult to see wood being transported out of the western region to the east and the south east coast. In that sense, Coillte is another agency that is not supporting the west. What are Ms Buckley's views on the policy? If we have a resource in the west the potential for jobs from that resource should be kept in the west. That would offer potential for more development in the west in respect of timber and other resources.

Ms Gillian Buckley

We are strongly of the view that resources in our region should be used to best effect for the prosperity of the region, first and foremost, and then for the benefit of the national economy. I am not in a position to comment on the specific issue but we work hard to ensure that we can exploit the resources in our region. The connection of the gas pipeline is another example of a resource from which the people of the west should benefit.

Mr. Ian Brannigan

Our research may reinforce the Deputy's comment but I will not make a judgment on that. It is all about local loops in terms of supply and usage of the wood, as that is sustainable and makes sense economically. As the Deputy rightly pointed out, there is a distance factor. Research shows that production and usage should be within a 40 km radius. That perhaps says something. The programme we hope to have is all about encouraging those local loops. Interestingly, it is looking at first thinnings as a current supply. That detail reinforces the need to have a sustainable resource in the community used nearby rather than distant from it because then the economics are not practical.

Ms Gillian Buckley

I thank the committee members for their time. I hope we set out in the presentation and the question and answer session the real challenges and opportunities facing the western region and the role of the WDC in trying to make progress in recent years. We can point to tangible successes in terms of influencing and informing policy decisions, developing highly innovative rural development projects that are delivering wealth, enterprise and jobs on the ground. Hundreds of people are employed in the projects we have helped to initiate and support. Likewise, 1,200 jobs are currently provided through the indigenous knowledge economy assisted by the western development fund.

One cannot underestimate the intangible achievements due to the special focus and recognition at the highest level of Government that the west needs a special development focus. It is accepted that the west has been lagging but its true potential can be realised and the achievement of confidence and a pride of place, which is also important, is something we in the WDC have been able to help to achieve in the past decade.

On behalf of the committee, I thank the delegates for their comprehensive presentation. They answered the questions posed to them in an open and frank manner and did not try to circumvent any of them. They would all make good politicians because that is exactly how we would answer questions. We would never circumvent them. The delegates' brief, while important, is becoming more important. I hope they will continue to work with indigenous industry and the services sector, thereby adding to the 1,200 jobs with which they have been associated. Their progress is evident.

The joint committee adjourned at 1.40 p.m. until 11 a.m. on Thursday, 27 November 2008.
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