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JOINT COMMITTEE ON ENTERPRISE, TRADE AND EMPLOYMENT debate -
Wednesday, 28 May 2008

Discussion with Slovak Parliamentary Delegation.

I welcome Mr. Maros Kondrót, chairman of the economic committee of the Slovak Parliament, His Excellency Mr. Ján Gábor, ambassador of the Slovak Republic to the Republic of Ireland, Mr. Miroslav Ivan, third secretary, and Mr. Branislav Javorek, commercial counsellor, Slovak embassy.

As Chairman of the Joint Committee on Enterprise, Trade and Employment, I am delighted to welcome the delegation and thank you for your patience. We had a busy morning discussing issues in regard to contractual matters which may be of some interest to the delegation. I understand the delegation has come to discuss issues of common interest to Ireland and Slovakia and that Slovakia is a member of the economic policy committee and the national council. I genuinely hope the delegation is enjoying its visit to Ireland. We have had very good weather but, unfortunately, it has turned adverse over the past couple of days.

We still have good weather in parts of the country.

That is in the west. That is an implied invitation to the delegation to visit the west of Ireland. I am sure the ambassador will explain that to you later. Lunch has been arranged for 1 p.m. and we are delighted the delegation will be our guests. I propose we have a short discussion now and I invite Mr. Maros Kondrót to lead the discussion.

Mr. Maros Kondrót

I thank the Chairman and members of the committee. I am happy to have the chance to see how you negotiate in your committee. It is very interesting for us to tell the committee how we run our committee. I am happy to be in Ireland. This should be the first official meeting of the economic committee of the Slovak Parliament. I came from Berlin yesterday because I am a member of the parliamentary assembly of NATO. We have just finished the parliamentary assembly of NATO in Berlin which was the summer summit.

My colleagues had to join me yesterday.One almost broke his leg and the other was ill so they told me yesterday morning that I was alone. The purpose was to bring my colleagues here also, and to speak with the committee about possible co-operation on the development of contacts with other countries, and to see how the Irish Parliament works. I was here for the first time in February last year when Mr. Praska, the Speaker of the Slovak Parliament, visited and then in March with Mr. Gasparovic, the President of the Slovak Republic. The committee of the national Parliament concerned with regional development was here in April last year. We are the second parliamentary committee to visit the Irish Parliament. The agenda can be discussed later. Ireland has been very successful economically, in using European funds and introducing the euro. We are interested in discussing those items with the committee to get some know-how and advice on how it was introduced.

I thank Mr. Kondrót.

I welcome the delegation. We look forward to having a discussion over lunch. From reading some background information I note the delegation's particular interest in education and how it considers that will improve the Slovak position within Europe. We in Ireland have placed great emphasis on improving our education at second and third levels. That is an area where we may be able to assist. How we succeeded in reaching that stage is a long story. There is a template the delegation could look at with a view to implementing it in your country. Specifically, in the education area there is much on which we could advise.

Mr. Maros Kondrót

Mr. Mikolaj, the Minister for Education, was in Ireland last March. Perhaps Deputy Brady met him then. We were both members of the economic committee when we were in opposition so I know him very well. Two or three weeks ago, when we had the last plenary session of the Slovak Parliament, he passed a new education Act. We have started to make progress in education, as the system had not been changed for many years.

I welcome the delegation. We have had a busy morning and some of our colleagues have had to leave but they hope to join us at lunch for a discussion. I visited Slovakia a few years ago and stayed in Bratislava. It is a fine place to visit. Our two countries have much in common, Bratislava being very similar to Dublin. They are two young cities and have much in common, and likewise with rural areas. I look forward to a discussion over lunch on the different issues.

Given that the committee of which the delegation is part deals with enterprise and business, perhaps we could discuss your concerns for this year and next year and ascertain whether there are any areas of mutual concern on which we could work. Today we discussed consumer prices. Having spent some time in your country, Slovakia is doing well in terms of prices and value for money. Having joined the EU, are there changes involving the euro and so on? I look forward to hearing what the delegation has to say and perhaps we can work on certain areas together in that context.

I welcome Deputy Seamus Kirk, chairman of the largest Government party.

I join with the Chairman in welcoming the delegation. This is a reflection of how the democratic process operates across the Community. The committee system is working well in the House and it is good to see representatives from other parliaments coming along to engage here.

We have a work programme. Over lunch the clerk will give the work programme to the witnesses which outlines the work we do in a full year and the areas we either investigate or about which we bring in as witnesses representatives from various business organisations, trade unions, people involved in employment law or whatever. They make a presentation and we cross-examine them on their statements, ascertain further information and make recommendations as a result of that. Today we dealt with the issue of the small print in contracts which consumers have difficulty reading. That was the last presentation. We had the National Consumer Agency before us as well. That organisation tries to help consumers in respect of prices and so on. That issue is relevant now because the euro has appreciated against the dollar and sterling, which should mean goods coming into Ireland are cheaper but those reductions are not being passed on to the consumer. That was the focus of our intense discussions this morning for almost two hours. In that context we will make recommendations to the Minister.

In fairness, Ministers generally pay a great deal of attention to the work of committees because all parties have members on the committees. If a unanimous recommendation goes from the committee to the relevant Minister, it is an indication that thought has been given to it by the members, including members of the Government parties. They are reflecting a view that they want considered. Ministers pay attention to those recommendations and determine if a resolution of the particular issue can be achieved, if legislative intervention is required or if the objective can be achieved in another way.

This committee has a wide remit, including employment law, trade, visiting other countries and observing the mutual benefit of trading blocs at European Union level and across the world in terms of the World Trade Organisation talks. The witnesses will be aware that a referendum is due to be held in this country which is important in the context of treaty obligations and so on. All those areas feed into the committee and we meet for two to three hours every two weeks and sometimes every week if there is legislative work to be done. Last week we dealt with Committee Stage of the Chemicals Bill, which is the REACH regulation that had to be implemented.

This is a busy committee because it has such a wide remit, as I am sure is the witnesses' committee. Over lunch we will give them a copy of the programme outlining the way the committee operates and its membership. We look forward to having a more intensive discussion as we enjoy our lunch, which will be at 1 p.m., if that is suitable. I understand the witnesses will visit other areas of the Houses of the Oireachtas in the interim but we are delighted to have them here with us. I join Deputy Kirk in welcoming the witnesses. I hope they enjoy their stay and that it will prove to be mutually fruitful.

Mr. Maros Kondrót

I thank the Chairman. I suppose we will finish at 12 p.m.

Mr. Maros Kondrót

We prepared a brief prospectus about our committee in English but I do not have it because my friends did not bring it with them. I can send it to the committee.

Mr. Maros Kondrót

It was interesting listening to the debate. I did not catch everything that was said but I understood the main idea being discussed.

Our committee has 12 members, seven from the coalition and five from the opposition. We meet regularly. We are the parliamentary supervising body of the Ministry of Economy, which involves tourism also, the Ministry of Transportation, Post and Telecommunications, the Ministry of Construction and Regional Development and the national property fund. The agenda is quite large and includes many other organisations involved in the economic part of life of Slovakia.

We have four sub-committees. The discussion the committee had earlier was similar to our discussions in the sub-committees because on the Second Reading, which is the regular meeting, ministers come in and propose their legislation. There is also a rapporteur present and we discuss the legislation. Very rarely we give the floor to anybody else. The meeting is open to the media and the public but the people from the big companies do not speak at the meeting of the committee.

Our committee has four sub-committees which cover the activities of the ministries I mentioned. They sit and hear public opinion issues or organisations like the National Consumer Agency. If there is a problematic proposal or legislation for discussion we meet several times. Some 40 people came in from trade unions and a succession of employees and we had a discussion similar to what I have seen at this meeting. That is a brief outline of the responsibility of our committee.

It is quite comprehensive. We will meet for lunch at 1 p.m. with the ambassador. The clerk will meet you in the intervening period. I thank all the representatives for coming to the committee.

The joint committee adjourned at 12 p.m. until 10 a.m. on Tuesday, 10 June 2008.
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