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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 12 Dec 1945

Vol. 30 No. 13

Rent Restrictions Bill, 1944—Second Stage.

Question proposed: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

This is a measure to consolidate and amend the whole of the existing law relating to rent restriction which is at present contained, partly, in the series of Increase of Rent and Mortgage Interest (Restrictions) Acts commencing with the 1923 Act and, partly, in Emergency Powers (No. 313) Order, 1944, as modified by the amending Order made this year. It may, therefore, be of assistance to Senators if at the outset I review briefly, as I did on the corresponding stage in the Dáil, the history of rent restriction as embodied in these various enactments.

The increase of Rent and Mortgage Interest (Restrictions) Act, 1923, was, like the Act it replaced—the British Act of 1920—expressed to be a temporary measure with a limit of three years on its period of operation. It continued the application of control to pre-1919 built premises with a poor law valuation not exceeding, in Dublin, £60, and, elsewhere, £40. Houses built after the 2nd April, 1919, and flats newly constructed after that date were exempt from control. The Act passed in 1926 had as its purpose the prolongation of control for a further period of three years during which decontrol would be gradually effected by a reduction year by year of the poor law valuation limits of control until complete decontrol was achieved in 1929. The expectation that control would be completely dispensed with by the year 1929 was not realised, and, in fact, the process of decontrol which the 1926 Act had introduced was arrested by a further Act passed in 1928, by which time the poor law valuation limits of control had been reduced to £30 in Dublin and £25 elsewhere. This continued to be the position until early in 1944 when the stress of emergency conditions made it necessary to consider the question of extending rent control to a wider range of premises. This was done by Emergency Powers (No. 313) Order, 1944, under which premises with a poor law valuation not exceeding £60 in Dublin and Dun Laoghaire and £40 elsewhere were brought under control Thus rent restrictions were applied for the first time to houses built after 1919. Under an amending Order which was made this year, premises erected after or in course of erection on the 8th February, 1944, and premises reconstructed into flats since that date were exempted from the scope of the original Order. Broadly speaking, the present position is that rent control applies to all existing premises of a poor law valuation not exceeding £60 in Dublin and £40 elsewhere.

Except for the fact that different standards are provided for the determination of the lawful rent, there is no essential difference between the control imposed by the Acts and that imposed by the Emergency Powers Orders. Under the 1923 Act rents are restricted by reference to the 1914 level of rents while under the Order the 1941 level provides the basis.

Before I go on to deal with the Bill itself, I should, perhaps, refer to the Reports of the Town Tenants (Occupation Tenancies) Tribunal. This tribunal was set up under the chairmanship of Mr. Justice Black in 1936 following the passing of resolutions by the Dáil and Seanad. The tribunal, after a long and painstaking examination of the problem, presented separate and conflicting reports early in 1941. Even though the reports revealed wide differences of views on fundamentals, the tribunal's careful and detailed examination of the existing Rent Acts and the suggestions made for their improvement have been of considerable assistance to us in the preparation of the measure that is now before the House.

Senators will probably recall that when this Bill was first circulated, there was circulated with it an explanatory memorandum. During its passage through the Dáil the Bill has been fairly extensively amended—especially Part III, which contains the new and special provisions for the relief of poorer classes of tenants. Accordingly, in some respects the explanatory memorandum no longer correctly represents the provisions of the Bill. If for no other reason but this, it is probably desirable that I should endeavour to explain, as briefly as I can, the Bill's more important and complex features.

The Bill proposes to repeal in their entirety all the existing Rent Acts and to re-enact, with certain amendments and improvements in form and drafting, almost all the provisions of these Acts. The Bill also incorporates the Emergency Powers Orders which will be revoked as soon as the Bill becomes law. Thus the whole rent restriction code will be contained in a single Act which will obviously be of considerable advantage to everybody concerned.

In so far as the Bill proposes to continue the control of pre-1919 houses that are at present controlled by the 1923 Act, one important change proposed is that embodied in the attempt which Chapter 1 of Part II makes to dispense with the need for the production of evidence of actual 1914 rents or of estimated 1914 letting values. The need for some amendment of the law in this regard must be self-evident. It is hardly necessary for me to stress the difficulty of producing reliable evidence, after the lapse of more than 30 years, of the rent that was paid in 1914. It is clearly desirable, therefore, that we should endeavour to frame provisions which will make it unnecessary to go back to 1914 in order to get the evidence essential for the determination of the lawful rent. It is important, however, to remember that there are many cases in which the lawful rents have been settled on the basis of the existing law, either as the result of court proceedings or by agreement between the parties where the 1914 rent was known. Senators will, I am sure, agree that it would be most undesirable that any such settled cases should be disturbed. To do so would serve only to create uncertainty and to open up possibilities of quite unnecessary disputes and litigation.

The only feasible way by which the objects we had in view could be achieved was by preserving the 1914 standard as the fundamental basis for determining the lawful rents in these cases while, at the same time, so framing our provisions that it would be unnecessary to produce evidence of actual 1914 lettings. This we did by dividing all 1923 Act controlled premises into two categories. First, we took those premises the standard rents of which have been determined by the court under the 1923 Act and the amounts of which are known. In these cases, Section 8 of the Bill provides that the basic rent shall be the sum of the standard rent and the increase thereon of 20 or 25 per cent. permitted under the 1923 Act according as the premises are a dwelling or a business premises. Section 8 embraces all those cases in which the standard rent, having been determined by the court, is now a matter of official record and, therefore, easily and readily ascertainable.

In the Dáil, the scope of Section 8 was widened so as to embrace cases in which the standard rent had been the subject of arbitration proceedings. This was done primarily in order to cover the case of one large Dublin company which has, for many years, played a prominent part in the housing of the working-class section of the people at very reasonable rents. I should, perhaps, avail myself of this opportunity to make it clear that no special privilege is being accorded to this company. Their houses remain subject to control as they always have been under the 1923 Act, but, instead of having the basic rents determined by the court under Section 9, the basic rents will be settled under Section 8, without recourse to the courts, by reference to the actual 1914 rents of which there are complete records available. The rents of the company's houses were the subject of an arbitration award by an arbitrator appointed by the Minister for Home Affairs of Dáil Eireann—I think it was in 1920—and, in a sense, therefore, the case is on a par with those cases in which standard rents were settled by the courts in proceedings under the 1923 Act.

The second category of 1923 Act cases comprises all cases in which the standard rent has not been determined by the court or as the result of arbitration proceedings. In these cases, under Section 9 of the Bill, the basic rent must be determined by the court as the amount which the court considers to be reasonable having regard to the basic rents of other 1923 Act controlled premises. At the outset basic rents for comparison purposes will have to be found entirely from within the category of Section 8 cases. In that connection I might mention that the intention is to have prepared registers of standard rents already determined by the courts. To these registers will be added, from time to time, particulars of basic rents determined under the new Act and, in this way, a record of standard and basic rents will become available which should be of considerable assistance to landlords and tenants and also to the courts.

It may be said, in criticism of the scheme embodied in Chapter I of Part II of the Bill that, since there will probably be many cases coming within Section 9, in which the parties have been able, on the basis of the known 1914 rent, to settle the lawful rents between themselves without recourse to the courts, the effect of the new provisions will be to render such cases liable to be made the subject of litigation under Section 9. It is true that theoretically these cases would be liable to be reopened under Section 9. In practice this is most unlikely to happen. The basic rents of the premises by reference to which the rent of a house in such a case would have to be determined under Section 9 are themselves determined by reference to 1914 rents. It would, therefore, be a foolhardy tenant or landlord who would resort to court proceedings in order to try to upset a rent arrived at on the basis of the known 1914 rent, and agreed upon as the rent lawfully permitted under the 1923 Act.

Chapter 2 of Part II re-enacts the provisions of Emergency Powers (No. 313) Order, as amended by the recent Order, governing the fixing of lawful rents for premises to which Chapter 2 applies, these being the premises at present controlled under the Emergency Powers Order. The basis for the determination of the lawful rent in these cases is the rent passing on the 7th May, 1941, or, if the premises were not let on that date, the rent at which they were last let during the previous five years. This follows the scheme for the 1923 Act, but with 1941 rents furnishing the standard, it is free from the objections that can be urged against the continued application of the 1923 Act provisions to premises controlled under that Act.

The provision of two different standards for the determination of the lawful rent, each applicable to distinct categories of premises, made it necessary to consider the position of premises that might, by reason of a change in the rateable valuation, slip from one category into another. For example, a pre-1919 built house of £29 poor law valuation would be subject to control under Chapter 1 of Part II. If, on a revaluation, the poor law valuation were raised to £31, it would come within Chapter 2 control. The converse case of a reduction in the poor law valuation bringing a house from Chapter 2 control into Chapter 1 control might occur, although perhaps more rarely. The point is of importance to both landlords and tenants since, in one case, the change might mean a substantial increase of rent for the tenant and, in the other, a substantial reduction for the landlord. I feel that a change in rateable valuation should not, in itself, operate to effect either an increase or reduction in the rent. Variations of the basic rent, if permitted during the period of control, could only lead to uncertainty and doubt, and might well operate harshly and unjustly against genuine buyers for value of controlled premises. Accordingly, the Bill provides—the relevant provisions are Section 7 (2) (b) and Section 10—that Chapter 1 controlled premises will remain subject to Chapter 1 control even though an increase in the rateable valuation may have taken place which would otherwise have taken the premises into Chapter 2, and, in the converse case, premises will remain subject to Chapter 2 control despite a decrease in the rateable valuation. I think that this is the best solution.

Part III of the Bill provides the one really novel feature of the measure as compared with the existing legislation and, possibly for this reason, has excited more interest and discussion than any of the other provisions of the Bill. Part III puts at the disposal of poorer classes of tenants a cheap, simple and expeditious means of having their rents reviewed by the courts and, where they are too high, having them reduced to the lawfully permitted limit.

Views may differ as to the need for special provisions on the lines of Part III of this Bill. For my own part, I believe that such provisions are necessary, although I am not prepared to go so far as to agree with the statements that have been made that we shall have mile-long queues of tenants waiting at the Dublin District Court to apply for provisional orders. The problem of how the Rent Act code could be made a really effective instrument of relief for the class of tenants who needed protection most was discussed at some length in the Agreed Report of the Town Tenants' Tribunal. There we find it stated, as the considered and unanimous view of the tribunal, that, by reason of the usually tedious, troublesome and complex nature of Rent Act cases, "so far as many of the poorer tenants are concerned, that is to say those who need the Rent Acts most, this great remedial code is a dead letter." There can, I think, be little doubt that, through poverty or ignorance of the law, or because of a reluctance or inability to institute legal proceedings with their attendant formalities, many tenants fail to secure for themselves the relief which the law provides for them. The conclusions of the tribunal in this regard are, I believe, borne out by the experience of social workers who move among the poorer sections of the people.

The tribunal's proposal for the appointment of special officers with specified functions as a solution of the problem was carefully examined and it was only after the fullest consideration that it was decided not to act on it. It was felt that to interpose between the tenant and the court an officer with powers to conduct a kind of preliminary investigation of the case would only make for more protracted proceedings and would, in the long run, defeat its own purpose. This would certainly be so in the case where the landlord proved "difficult"—the very kind of case in which the tenant would be most in need of relief. It seemed to us after a careful examination of the whole question that the best and most practical solution would be to secure for the tenant a cheap and informal means of access to the court and prompt adjudication there upon his claim for relief. Under such a scheme it might be hoped that tenants would not be deterred by the cost and formalities that court proceedings normally involve.

The provisions of Part III of the Bill have been designed to achieve this object. It is hardly necessary for me to discuss these provisions in detail at this stage. Senators have, I am sure, by now become acquainted with their general scope and purpose. I would like merely to mention at this stage that, while the framework of the scheme as originally embodied in the Bill has been retained, it has been extensively amended in its details during the passage of the Bill through the Dáil. There was general agreement in the Dáil—and when we come to consider the Bill in Committee, this House will, I am sure, also agree—that Part III has been considerably improved as the result of the amendments made in the Dáil.

I feel that I should not take up the time of the House in explaining the remaining provisions of the Bill as these can, I suggest, be more usefully and conveniently discussed on Committee Stage. If there are any particular provisions as regards which Senators may desire information at this stage, I shall try to deal with them when I come to reply to the debate.

Before I conclude, I would like to say a few words on the subject of rent restriction generally and the effect which it is likely to have on the building of houses for letting. I can hardly conceive that at this juncture anybody could be found seriously to suggest that rent control could be dispensed with now or in the near future. For 30 years a large number of tenants have enjoyed protection under the existing Rent Acts against arbitrary increases of rent and the threat of ejectment if such increases were not paid. If such control were to be removed or even modified to any appreciable extent, I have no doubt that the result would be demands for increased rents and ejectments with all the hardships and dislocation that this would entail for many people.

So far from it being possible to remove or modify the control under the 1923 Act, it was found necessary, as Senators are aware, less than two years ago, to extend control to a large range of houses not previously controlled, including houses built since 1919. I may say, in this connection, that the Government took that very serious step only after they had fully satisfied themselves that the circumstances warranted it. Numerous cases, not merely in Dublin but in other parts of the country, were brought to notice in which landlords were endeavouring to take advantage of the exceptional scarcity conditions in the matter of housing accommodation to exact increased rents from their tenants. In some cases tenants were ejected or threatened with ejection merely in order that the landlord might be in a position to re-let at a much increased rent. It was in these circumstances that the Government made Emergency Powers (No. 313) Order, 1944. The Bill, as I have already explained, proposes to continue for a period of five years the control at present imposed by the Emergency Powers Order and, of course, the control under the 1923 Act also.

Since the 1944 Order was made, it has been amended by an Order made this year so as to exclude from control houses erected after, or in course of erection, on the 8th February, 1944, and houses reconstructed into separate, self-contained flats after that date. This exemption was incorporated in the Bill as originally introduced and, during the Bill's passage through the Dáil, the position was made even more favourable from the point of view of the builder of new houses by the amendment which substituted the date, 7th May, 1941 for the date 8th February, 1944, in the exemption clause.

I have referred in detail to this exemption from control of newly-built houses and houses newly reconstructed into flats because I think that there is a tendency in some quarters to minimise or under-estimate the value and importance of the exemption from the point of view of the speculative builder. I have, on the other hand, no desire to exaggerate its significance, and I certainly would not try to argue that rent control, even with an exemption in favour of new building, does not exercise some adverse effect on the building by private enterprise of houses to let. I am afraid that that situation will just have to be accepted, because I see no prospect of our being able to dispense with control for a considerable time.

I would submit, however, that in providing for the complete exemption from control of all new building, we are holding out a valuable inducement to private enterprise to embark on the provision of those houses for letting for which there is such a real need at the present time. The point will, of course, be made—it is too obvious to be overlooked—that the 1923 Act contained a similar clause exempting from control post-1919-built houses and that, despite this, these houses have now been controlled. I do not think that this really affects the validity of my argument. It is true that houses built between 1919 and 1941 have been brought under control, but the fact must not be overlooked that the rents of these houses are controlled on the basis of 1941 levels of rent. Will anybody seriously suggest that the investor who put his money into the building of houses between 1919 and 1941 is being treated unfairly or unjustly in being restricted now to the rent which he was able to get in the open market in 1941?

I think that the immunity from control which the 1923 Act accorded to post-1919-built houses was, on any reasonable view, an immunity merely from control based on 1914 standards, which was the keynote of the 1923 Act. It could, in no sense, have been construed as a pledge of immunity for all time. To treat it as such would have been to fetter all future Governments and Legislatures in a way which, obviously, could never have been intended. Similarly, the exemption from control provided for in paragraphs (b) and (c) of Section 3 (2) of the present Bill cannot, and should not, be treated as a guarantee that houses built after 1941 may not at some future date be brought under control, if, unfortunately, the Government and Legislature of the day should find it necessary to do so. The value of the exemption for the investor or builder lies, I submit, in the fact that it provides a reasonable assurance that, if the houses in which they have invested their money are brought under control, the rents which may be charged will be determined by reference to an up-to-date standard which will take full account of the increased costs at which the houses have been erected. There is no reason to assume that the Government or Legislature of 20 or 25 years hence, if, as I have just said, the need should then unfortunately arise for an extension of rent control, will be any less concerned to see that landlords are treated equitably than was the present Government two years ago when they introduced Emergency Powers (No. 313) Order.

I am quite aware, of course, that restrictions on the rent do not constitute the sole burden of the landlord's or property owner's complaint against rent control. There are also other restrictions such, for example, as those on the landlord's right to recover possession. I would point out, however, that these further restrictions are an essential feature of any effective scheme of rent control and, provided that the landlord is allowed to charge a rent that is reasonable and fair to him, these restrictions do not, in my view, afford a very genuine ground of complaint.

Taking everything into consideration, I would suggest that any reasonable person thinking of investing money in the building of houses has no real grounds for fearing rent control. If, of course, he is the type of person who would not scruple to take advantage of serious emergency conditions to exact an exorbitant and profiteering rent, then he has something to fear from rent control, and I have little doubt that the House will agree that rent control would at any time amply justify itself if it curbed or prevented attempts by individuals of that kind at unscrupulous exploitation of the dire needs of the house-hunting public.

I have dwelt so much on that aspect of the matter, Sir, because I think an attempt has been made to misrepresent what has been done here. That, probably, will be dealt with during the course of the debate on the Bill, but that is my explanation for dealing so fully with the effect of rent restrictions on future building.

This Bill is a Bill that it is somewhat hard to speak about on Second Reading, because it is very much more a Bill for consideration in Committee than now. At the same time, it has somewhat amused me to throw my mind back a great many years. I think it was 16 or 17 years ago that I remember the Minister and his Party coming to a debate in the Dáil and saying that at that time there was the very greatest urgency for a Bill of this nature. We travelled along from that date to 1936. In 1936 a commission was appointed, and that commission, as the Minister has stated, reported early in January, 1941.

We have now travelled almost five years from that date, and I think that one would have been entitled to assume, after that period—16 or 17 years from the very beginning, and nine years from the date on which the commission was appointed—that when the Minister came to give us a Bill to-day it would have been one which he could safely regard as a monument —almost that he could say, in the words of the only Latin tag that I can ever remember: "Exegi monumentum aere perennius,” but I am afraid that this Bill falls very short of that.

This Bill, with the exception of Part III, as the Minister says, has nothing novel in it. With the exception of Part III, the Bill may very properly be described as yet another example of the stand-still policy of the present Government because it is, in effect, a stand-still Bill. While all of us agree that in the circumstances in which we are to-day rent control of some sort or kind is absolutely necessary, I do think that it is desirable that we should look at the matter quite frankly and seriously from the point of view of the principles involved. Let us admit frankly what it is: that rent control is in effect an additional taxation appointed to be borne by a particular class. It is a taxation which must be borne by the owners of houses so that tenants may have their cost of living cheapened. Now, I think that it is absolutely essential that we should have some form of control of that sort at the present time, and I do not want to be taken as being in any way against control, but I do think that it is only right and fair that we should at the same time frankly admit what we are doing, and that is that we are imposing additional taxation on a particular class. So far as control is concerned, during a period of war or of post-war stringency, if we consider it from the angle that we are preventing profiteering, preventing something that is anti-social and that should be attacked and controlled with the utmost rigour, it is perhaps unfortunate that not only in this one respect, but in other respects also, the same control of other kinds of profiteering, which anyone moving about the City of Dublin can see has happened, has not been introduced.

The whole basis of any rent restriction must be that we are controlling something of which there is a monopoly, or rather controlling the exploitation of a monopoly, and while it is absolutely necessary to control it I do think that it would be better if we took the frank line of admitting that in so doing we are imposing additional—necessarily additional—taxation on a particular class.

So far as the individual clauses of the Bill itself are concerned, I am afraid that I find myself very disappointed. I find myself disappointed in that the Minister has not taken into account many of the matters which were referred to in the agreed report of all the members of the tribunal, and has not taken into account some of the matters referred to in individual reports in separate instances.

If I may go into a little detail without trespassing on the Committee Stage, in respect of the allowance for repairs, the Minister has made a very great mistake. In the words of the tribunal, if the 10 per cent. and 5 per cent. addition for repairs was not excessive in 1923, it seems manifest that it would not be adequate now, yet the Minister has reduced the percentage to 8½ per cent. and 4¼ per cent., respectively. It is not so much on the question of the exact percentage that I wish to speak. If you only provide a fixed percentage for repairs, you are going to give, so to speak, a bonus to those who do the least they possibly can do. I know there is a provision, where a tenant finds that premises have been let get into such a hopeless state of repair, that he has certain remedies. I am not thinking of that case. I am thinking of a case where a person who owns a house wants to keep it in good repair and would like to spend more on it. In that case there should be a provision that a court would have a discretion to deal with it. That was referred to at some length in one of the reports of the tribunal. It would mean in the long run, that the premises of good landlords—and it is only the premises of good landlords in which I am interested—would be kept in better condition.

There is also the question of legislation for individual cases. We all know the saying, "Hard cases make bad law", but there is a particular type of case which is deserving of consideration. I happen to know of one particular instance where a landlord owns a great deal of property, which is practically all occupation property. That landlord has had the property since 1914, and has never in any single case increased the rent for any of the occupants under the 1923 Act or otherwise. He never added anything on, though he was perfectly entitled to do so, so long as the individual tenant or family who was there remained. When a tenant goes out, or if there is a reletting to a new tenant, in that case he does increase the rent to the permitted rent under existing legislation, but he never increased the rents of existing tenants. Under the provisions of this Bill it means that he is going to be tied to the 1941 level, though it may have been a rent which he was allowing the family of a person who remained on for many years to pay, because it was outside the previous level. I know of other cases where a man has a house, whose daughter or son were going to get married, and who let it to one of his own family or in-laws at a reduced rent. In a case like that, it appears to me that when that particular premises come back into the open letting market, so to speak, there should be some provision by virtue of which a court could deal with it in a discretionary manner.

I mention it now so that the Minister may take a note of it, as it is a little bit more complicated for a private person to deal with. It is absolutely essential, if the register and so forth are to be kept effectively, that there should be implied, in every contract for sale of a controlled house, a provision that the vendor would have to furnish to the purchaser any information in his possession as regards the rent, if under the 1923 Act as regards the rent in 1914, or if outside the 1923 Act as regards the rent charged in 1941. It would appear to me that that is absolutely essential if we are not to have more and more confusion as property changes hands.

As far as Part III is concerned, I am afraid that I take the view that it will result in a bottle-neck; that the provisions will be more cumbersome in the end, and that it would have been far better to provide the type of official envisaged in the report. It will be found that the ordinary tenant will not go and make his case in the way the Minister envisages to the District Court clerk. It will be found that he will labour in ignorance of his rights. I am in entire agreement with the report and with the Minister that, amongst the poorer classes of tenant which we solicitors meet, there is great ignorance of what their rights are. It would be much more desirable to appoint some official who would in a very short time be able to deal with the whole problem in the slum areas, because that is what this is concerned with.

I wish to refer to three other small points. I do not know whether the Minister felt that this was the correct Bill in which to introduce it, but it appears to me now, at the end of the emergency, when we hope there is going to be a period of building, that something should be done to ensure that the houses are not going to be jerry-built like some of those built 10 years before the emergency. Solicitors in Dublin can tell the Minister that time and again they come across cases where people put their savings into buying houses and, having done so, after a year cracks appeared in the main walls, and in many cases expenditure was necessary, while in some cases the buildings could not be properly repaired on account of being structurally unsound. The warranty implied in the Act does not go far enough. There will have to be some stringent legislation before the building of houses gets on the way by speculative builders, who did not understand their job, in order to ensure that people will be protected from that type of jerry-built speculation.

It is regrettable that the Minister did not include in the Bill a provision to cover attempts to contract out of the measure by a system of hire-purchase. So far as I can see—I speak subject to correction—there is nothing to prevent my saying, if I own a house the rent of which is £26 a year: "I shall not set the house but I shall sell it on an instalment basis," which, in fact, may mean that the person going in will have to pay a rent of £40 a year. Provision against that was made in the legislation of Northern Ireland and I suggest that provision to prevent fraudulent contracting out of the Act should be made here. Something must also be done in regard to the bogus flat. I am not a bit happy about the definition in the Act. Before the Bill passes, it is essential that we should get some better definition of the self-contained flat, some definition which will ensure that a person will not be able, merely by rigging up a small partition through which you could push your finger, to take the house out of the realms of control as envisaged in this Bill. There have been far too many cases of that type in the City of Dublin. We shall have to arrive at a more precise definition of "self-contained flat". It should be a separate dwelling within the four structural walls of a house and not merely one room here, another across the landing and another upstairs. I had intended to speak for a somewhat longer time on the Bill but, having regard to the gruelling the Minister received on an earlier measure, I shall let him off lightly on this occasion.

I am not pleading for mercy.

This Bill is an admission that there is something seriously wrong in regard to housing generally. Even the Minister has not been enthusiastic in relation to it. On the contrary, he was apologetic. He apologised, in the first place, for having to introduce a Rent Restrictions Bill and he wound up by apologising to the builders for referring to their profits. I think that everybody will agree that rent restriction is not an ideal, social or economic solution for the problem with which we are dealing. The real solution is the provision of an adequate number of suitable houses to meet the needs of the community. No other solution will be satisfactory to the Minister, the builder or the occupier.

Admittedly, if the Government is unable to provide, or induce others to provide, all the houses required, something must be done to prevent ramps and rackets in respect of a scarce commodity. I have been looking at the report, presented this year, on housing in Dublin and it is a very illuminating document, although it refers only to Dublin. It shows that, in 1938, to get rid of slums and basement dwellings, Dublin required 22,172 houses. To deal with overcrowding— that is, overcrowding so-called in the report—would require 3,257 houses, so that in 1938 there was a shortage in Dublin of more than 25,000 houses.

How is that being met? The number of houses erected by local authorities—Rathmines and Pembroke Councils are included with the Corporation —in the 17 years from 1922 to 1939 was, on the average, 766 per year. Wastage alone accounted for 1,300 houses, so that, in that period of 17 years, only half the wastage was being made good. It is true that, following the enactment of the 1932 Housing Act, the number of houses built increased considerably. In the period between 1933 and 1939, the Corporation of Dublin provided, on the average, 1,273 houses per annum. Private builders provided on the average, 1,175 houses per annum. That is, of course, the real crux—the inability, over a period of 20 years, to make any impression whatever on the housing deficiency in Dublin. The same applies to Cork, Limerick and other large centres. It is the explanation of this Bill and, obviously, it is a second-best attempt at solution. It is really no solution of the problem, but the Bill has to be produced in the same way as the Minister for Supplies would issue an Order controlling the price of any other commodity.

An Leas-Chathaoirleach

This is a Rent Restrictions Bill, Senator, not a Housing Bill.

I accept that, but I would like to point out that, when people attack the principle of rent restriction by legislation—I think that the Minister himself was inclined to sneer at it—we ought to be at liberty to explain why such a Bill is introduced. I do not suggest that the Minister is responsible for housing, but the Cabinet of which he is a member has collective responsibility for housing.

The Bill before the House is a Rent Restrictions Bill, not a Housing Bill. I cannot answer regarding the corporation's housing programme.

An Leas-Chathaoirleach

The Senator must keep more strictly to the Bill.

I do not propose to occupy much time but, if one side is entitled to attack the principle of rent restriction, a Senator who thinks otherwise should be entitled to say why the Bill is before us, whether we approve of the principle or not. This is not the first Rent Restrictions Bill. The first Rent Restrictions Bill was introduced in 1915. There have been innumerable Rent Restrictions Bills of that type, but we have not made much headway with new ideas in relation to rent restrictions. As a matter of fact, this Bill, in certain respects, is a reactionary departure from past enactments and from the existing law.

Take, for instance, the provision which prescribes the datum line for restriction. When the Bill was introduced the Minister provided that the Act would apply to every house erected or every house reconstructed prior to the 8th April, 1944. For some mysterious reason he, on his own initiative, introduced proposals in the Dáil to exclude from the operations of the Act houses built between the 7th May, 1941, and the 8th February, 1944. I have been endeavouring to find out why, and I discovered that one organisation which apparently has considerable influence with the Minister persuaded the Minister that it would be unfair to them if houses erected between 7th May, 1941, and the 8th February, 1944, were to be controlled at all. They must have a free hand.

But this is an organisation which had an issue of capital a couple of years ago offering the £1 shares for 26/- and it was well over-subscribed. Further, I might make this point that so long as there is no dead line in relation to control and that it is left to the court to decide what is a fair rent, there can be no argument whatever against continuing control not merely in respect of houses built before 1944 but in respect of all future houses having regard to the fact that the court will determine what is a fair rent.

I might draw the attention of the Minister to legislation introduced in Britain quite recently. Here is a Daily Mail comment on what they call “Bevan's Bill.” This is the statement:

"Local authorities are to be given powers to fix for four years the maximum selling prices or rent of houses built under licence by private enterprise..."

So that actually in Great Britain, the Minister's opposite number is introducing legislation authorising local authorities to fix not merely the rent of houses yet to be built, but the prices at which they may be sold. I think that is a very common sense practice and one entirely in conformity with the regulations applied by the Minister for Supplies during the whole of the emergency.

I gathered from the statements made elsewhere that the Minister is of opinion that certain builders, building employers generally, are rather in the way of being public benefactors, getting a very small return on their outlay and a small return on expenditure on improvements, repairs and so on. What is the experience of those who are in a position to judge the rate of profit earned in the building trade? I was speaking some time ago to a public official who had wide experience of house building and he mentioned to me the case of a firm which on average built 25 houses a year between 1933 and 1939, and he told me the net profit earned on that enterprise was £26,000.

This is an official with wide experience of building by local authorities, and he informed me that in the case of a house which was constructed at a cost of, say, £900 or £950, between 1933 and 1939, the average profit would be £150 per house. These are the people to whom the Minister apologises because he introduced this Bill. Now, let us see what control means under the Bill, because, let us bear this in mind, that the restrictions imposed in this Bill are more favourable to the landlord than the Order which will disappear when this Bill becomes law.

On that point, I would like to refer to the White Paper which accompanied the Bill when it was originally tabled. The first paragraph of the White Paper says, referring to the Order:

"These Orders will be revoked as soon as the Bill becomes law, but the control imposed by the Orders will be continued under the new Act."

That, Sir, was the position when the Bill was introduced. It is not so any longer and the present position is what I have already shown. Let us take the case of a house to which Section 8 of the Bill applies. This was a house erected before 1914. The standard rent is known—in other words, the rent has been fixed by some tribunal or authority prior to the introduction of this Bill and I want to take the case of a house with which I am familiar. This house was erected in 1890, that is 55 years ago. Some time early in 1914 it changed tenants. The tenant then in occupation was paying £36, but some time prior to the 3rd August, 1914, a new tenant entered into possession at £40 a year. That then became the standard rent in respect of that house. To that, the Bill authorises the addition of 20 per cent. It authorises all the additions—I am not mentioning rates because in this case the tenant paid the rates—which means that the landlord is now entitled to get £77 15s. a year for the house, but he has already informed the present tenant that he intends to do some improvements.

No doubt, the house will be a better house when the improvements are carried out, but he proposes to expend £150, out of which he will collect 8 per cent., adding another £12 yearly to the rent of the house, bringing it almost to £90 a year. I want to draw attention to that fact that here is a house which in 1914 was let at £40. Under this Bill the rent will be £90. It is improved, no doubt. It is so much improved, indeed, that while it cost the landlord £500 when originally constructed, its present market value, I am informed, is £1,500. I have been checking up on the amounts paid in rent in respect of that house. The total sum to date is £3,000.

The selling value of the house is £1,500, and if you deduct what the house cost, and the amount expended on betterment, there is a clear margin of profit of £3,000. Senators may question that, but there are very many cases similar to it, if Senators desire to investigate them, but if there were no such cases it is sufficient for me to show that this is possible under the Bill.

It is a rather strange thing that when money is expended on the improvement of a house, this improvement is not always carried out for the benefit of the tenant. It is very frequently carried out to improve the property in the interest of the landlord. While the British Government permitted 6 per cent. in 1920, when the market value of money was 6 per cent., our Government is offering 8 per cent. when the market value of money is 3 per cent. Is it not an invitation to a landlord to invest his spare cash in the improvement and betterment of his own property when, in effect, you tell him: "Take your money out of Government stock, corporation loans or something else where you get 3 per cent. and invest it in improvement in your own house where you will get 8 per cent."? It is a further inducement to the landlord if, say, he has three tenders before him, one contractor willing to do the job for £100, another for £200 and a third for £300, to accept the highest tender. If he has £300 to spare, lying in some investment from which he is getting only 3 per cent., here is an inducement to him to take out that £300 and invest it in some improvements from which he will get 8 per cent., thereby increasing his interest from the capital sum from £9 to £24.

In regard to Part III of the Bill which deals with small premises, I do not want to discuss it beyond saying that this is another instance of the Minister taking one step forward and two to the rear. He commenced by providing in his original Bill that the machinery for the cheap enforcement of this Bill would apply to all small premises in the four cities and in such other areas as were included, but in the Dáil he amended the Bill to exclude any houses erected before April, 1919, or any flat or tenement constructed since that date. That is to say that any person occupying a tenement room or a pair of tenement rooms which were reconstructed since April, 1919, is not going to get the advantages of Part III of the Bill.

There is another point which I should like to raise so that the Minister might examine it. So far as I can see the landlord is provided with ample opportunity to side-step the whole of this legislation in Part III in getting his basic rent fixed for him by the Circuit Court outside the provisions of the Bill altogether. The advantage of Part III is that it is costless, or almost costless, to the tenant. If the landlord can take the premises out of Part III then he can involve the tenant, who is a poor person occupying premises of less than £10 valuation here in Dublin, in whatever expenses may be entailed in initiating proceedings in the Circuit Court or in appeals or actually in a case stated which, I believe, lawyers agree can be a very expensive form of litigation.

Then there is the case of furnished apartments to which Senator Sweetman has already referred. I cannot see why the Minister shuts his eyes to what is going on, not merely in relation to furnished flats but in regard to offices. A prominent public official told me in the last fortnight that he endeavoured to secure an office —quite a simple office, not three hundred yards from this building, which he knew had been let to the former tenant at £180 a year. He was quoted £400 a year for it. The same thing applies in regard to furnished flats.

I am not speaking of the bogus furnished flat; I am speaking of properly furnished flats. I am informed that people of quite small incomes—clerks, shop assistants, junior bank officials—have been charged £3 per week in Dublin for very modest flats with very imperfect furniture. The Minister has an example before him of the Bill recently introduced in Great Britain which, by the way, is only following the Act already enforced for a considerable time in Scotland, where the facts can be examined. It is entitled the Furnished Houses Rent Control Bill and shows that, so far as Scotland is concerned, there is no difficulty in introducing a set of regulations which will enable the State or the local authority to come in and prevent a ramp in relation to the rents of flats.

It must be obvious to the Minister that if houses are in short supply, people who have money will be prepared to come in and pay any price in order to get a house or, failing that, to get a flat. I think the Minister is wrong in excluding from the Bill houses with a higher valuation. I am not concerned so much with the occupiers or tenants of houses the valuation of which is £70 or £80, but I am concerned with the pressure these people bring to bear in the demand for lower valued houses by the fact that if they cannot get a house of the valuation which they would normally look for, they are prepared to come along and compete even for labourers' cottages. The Minister is quite well aware of that. In previous legislation the desire was not so much specially to protect occupiers of the more highly valued houses as such but it was recognised that if these people were being rooked by the landlords they were going to come down and compete with other people whom it was desired to protect.

There is one other aspect of the question to which I would like to refer and that is the failure of the Minister to recognise that so long as he fails to deal with ground rents he is not going to solve this problem. Take the case of people, let us say, in the Borough of Dún Laoghaire. Many of them, 15 or 20 years ago, were paying £50 rent. In fact I have the actual figure paid for property. A number of houses were built at a certain period and let at £52 a year. At the time the ground rent was £6 and the margin to the landlord, therefore, was £46 per house. In the interval, the ground rent has gone up to £16 per house, so that the margin is reduced from £46 to £36. I do not know how the owner of that house is to be compensated for the increase in the ground rent. It is not provided for in the Bill, so far as I understand it, but it is a serious matter, particularly for people who own houses of the kind I mentioned — houses which let for £1 a week. I do not want to stress this, because I would be told that it is not within the scope of the Bill. That is true, but I think on the Second Reading we might be permitted to draw attention to certain omissions from the Bill which should be dealt with. It seems to me that we cannot deal very effectively or intelligently with the problem that is submitted to us in this Bill unless we see all aspects of it. I am drawing attention to the abuses — in fact the scandalous exploitation—in regard to ground rents in the City of Dublin and the Borough of Dún Laoghaire, and I take it that what is true there is true elsewhere.

One final word: I expect that we will be permitted a reasonable time to frame amendments to this Bill. Although it was a considerable time under discussion in the Dáil, and although a large number of amendments was tabled and a considerable number accepted, in my view there was a number of those amendments which damaged the Bill. It is less satisfactory now than when it was introduced in the Dáil. Therefore, I plead that a reasonable time be given to this House to consider what amendments we would like to submit.

Senator Duffy referred to previous speakers having expressed themselves as being opposed to the principle of restriction of rents. I did not hear those remarks myself. I understood the Minister to say that while he recognised that rent restrictions were necessary he was not altogether enthusiastic about them. That did not show, I think, any particular opposition. I should say it is the attitude that any Minister, having regard to his responsibilities, should adopt. Senator Duffy struck me as being similar to the man who put up something such as a bottle to be knocked down—the old game of cock-shot. There was nothing really to be knocked down. Had he waited for my remarks he probably would have had something to hit at. So far as I am concerned, I intend to refer to the whole principle of rent restriction, and the attitude that, having regard to their responsibilities, people should adopt towards it.

This rent restrictions idea was born in very exceptional circumstances. The first Act bearing upon rent restriction was adopted in England in 1915, and, significantly enough, was called a War Restrictions Act. That suggested that it was to be of a temporary nature and to meet very special circumstances. Now that peace has come, and that we seem to be in for a considerable spell of normality, I think the opportunity should be seized and utilised to go to the very foundation of this principle of rent restriction. It is obvious that it very seriously interferes with the rights of certain citizens, and, although such citizens are in the minority, this being a nation which claims to act justly and in a Christian fashion, the views of that minority should certainly be considered. I have explained that at the time the prototype, if I may use the term, of this Act was passed, there were exceptional conditions existing. The very life of the English nation was at stake and it was obvious that, as prudent and sensible men, the Government in England at the time considered that they must sacrifice some interest in order to save the life of the nation as a whole. Hence, they said: "Unjust and all as it may be, we will secure the co-operation of the largest possible number by giving them relief from their economic burdens in the form of reduction in rent." That, so far as I can see, was really the origin of rent restriction.

As the cost of living increased in England, naturally the people who depended solely or very largely upon interest derived from rents found themselves obliged to raise those rents. On the other hand, the people with fixed incomes, particularly those of the wage earning classes, found that they had to resist such increases. Being in the majority, naturally they had their way, and the first Rent Restrictions Act was passed.

We have to bear in mind then, the whole time we are discussing the question of rent restrictions, the circumstances in which the first Act was passed. Hamlet, as you know, said that the appetite grows with what it feeds upon, and hence the benefits of rent restrictions were so very nice in themselves that the people continually asked for more of such restrictions. They were very like that famous character in Dickens known as Oliver Twist. I submit then that the first consideration should be: to what extent are we justified in spending the time of this House on an Act which will continue the disabilities under which a very considerable section of the population is already suffering? The doctrine of private ownership in house property, which this Bill is calculated to assail, has been accepted in the provisions of our Constitution. Therefore, in dealing with this Bill, I think we should try to see to what extent we are giving effect to the principles so embodied.

Reference has been made to monopoly in the case of house property, and the analogy to monopoly in land is utilised in this connection. The question then is: is there an exact parallel between houses and land with respect to monopoly? Let us consider what happens in the case of a house. From the very time it is built it is subject to destruction. All the natural forces begin to operate. I need not detail what those are. First of all, the weather begins to act on it; acid begins to act on the stonework; insects of all kinds attack the woodwork; and in the course of a few hours fire may destroy the whole structure. It is an artificial structure from the very beginning. It is made by the hands of man, and, like everything else made by man, it may easily be destroyed. As far as its tendency towards deterioration and ultimate destruction is concerned, it very much resembles the people who live in it. Human beings too are subject to destruction. I maintain then that there is no exact analogy between house property and land so far as the principle of monopoly is concerned.

Now, if we examined the case minutely we would probably say that after all there is a portion of this structure which bears an exact parallel to that of land, that is to say, the site of the house; but land used as the site of a house differs very much from land that is used for ordinary agricultural purposes. You have only to look at this very city to see what has happened to certain streets, which were once the fashionable streets of the city and which are now slum quarters. So, the site value of land varies very much. In that connection, I was in Toledo some years ago and I observed there a number of lizards hopping in and out of holes which they had bored in the cut stone bases to the main walls of the great Cathedral there. That shows how even tiny animals like that will, in the course of time, destroy even the greatest structure. Possibly, we are all familiar with the old saying in Omar Khayyam:—

"They say the Lion and Lizard keep

The Courts where Jamshyd gloried and drank deep".

That was a case of decay and destruction.

I think that perhaps I have said enough to establish the fact that monopoly is not justly alleged with respect to a house: at least, there is not the same measure of justification for it as there may be in the case of land. Of course, land outside the city may vary a little bit, and of course if a great war should disturb the general economic situation, the value of agricultural land will vary, but if we take a long view of the question such variations are ultimately ironed out as normality in the general economic field returns. We might also admit that land in the vicinity of cities will vary up and down in value according as the prosperity of the city varies, but such variation is, in turn, affected by improvements in transport and so, ultimately, we may say that land outside the city cannot be compared with land within the city. Therefore, I should say that the case for a monopoly, so far as a house is concerned, is not a very good one and that the analogy is not very close.

Now, I should like to ask why should the owner of goods such as houses be the only one made subject to continuous restrictions? Senator Duffy spoke of people building houses and then demanding rents or looking for rents of a certain standard, and he describes that as being a ramp. Well, these people were not obliged to build these houses, and it is not clear, therefore, why they should be obliged to set them at a particular rent. There is no particular reason why they should be so obliged. Senator Duffy referred to something like 8 per cent. profit being obtained on an investment of, say £150, but he forgot to mention that, from the moment the walls or the structure, representing that £150, began to deteriorate, a sinking fund had to be provided out of which such walls and structures would be replaced.

Is there not an allowance for repairs in the Bill?

They are not sufficient. Now it is unanimously admitted that private ownership of land is likely to get the best results for the nation. It is not clear, then, why the owners of house property should be the one section of the community whose extinction seems to be intended by the State. I come now to a section that may be particularly controversial, but if the House will bear with me I think that the members of the House who may resent this most strongly will ultimately agree with me. At a recent meeting of the Insurance Institute the other day a speaker said:—

"The monetary prosperity of a country would be meaningless if, as a result, a more ready flow of money was made available to spend on horses, dogs, cinemas, dances, drink and all the other supposedly accepted necessities of modern life, to the extinction of everything higher, nobler and more inspiring."

I suggest that the speaker referred to some of the causes which have led to the infliction of injustice on the property-owning classes. There is a great deal of that kind of thing not only in Dublin but throughout the country, and it really means that people such as those who are depending on house property—very often they are widows —are obliged to deprive themselves of even the most elementary necessities of life because of the high cost of living. That high cost of living—a very big part of it—is, I should say, due to these frivolities represented by the practices mentioned by the speaker. Now, we have a number of factories that have been established— and I am now dealing with the sociological aspect, which has a very important bearing on rent restrictions. These factories are protected by tariffs and are in the position, therefore, to charge execeptionally high prices. This fact, in turn, tends to increase the cost of living. I do not say that the directors or owners of these factories get the full benefit, because it is known that at the moment the Government are sharing as it were the profits with the owners of the factories, but the fact is that these high prices enable the owners to give comparatively high wages, and these high wages, in turn, enable the wage earners to indulge in the practices mentioned. It is, then, found that there are not sufficient financial resources left to enable these wage earners in many cases to get a sufficient quantity of wholesome food and other necessities of life. Hence, we have diseases such as tuberculosis rampant.

Some time ago, a manufacturer on a small scale told me that he had been obliged to secure the services of certain key workers from England for his small factory. In order to secure the services of these men he had to pay very high wages. He then found that the high wages had the effect that more than half of the wages were spent before the week-end was over in drink, with the result that the men did not turn up to the factory until the following Tuesday or Wednesday. I suggest that if, after a social survey, the State feels that wages are still not sufficient to enable workers to pay reasonable rents or if there are people such as those suffering from diseases or other infirmities, who require greater assistance than is at present being extended to them, then the State should do something to secure that the wages are raised to a level sufficiently high to enable the workers to discharge their obligations in the form of rents, and to enable the other, poorer people, who are suffering from infirmities or diseases, to do likewise. That, I think, should be really the fundamental cure and if we believe in this great principle of social security, I would suggest, to the labour representatives in particular, that that should be their aim: to lift these people above the stage where it is necessary for them to look for subsidies and to look for interference with the property of other people. That I look upon as something to come in the future and something that I suggest should be supported by the representatives of labour. After all, if we are living in a house which is subsidised in any shape or form by the State or the local authority is it not partaking of a form of charity? It is destroying our independence, and that is not good for the nation as a whole.

The badger hunt serves as a model for the treatment of owners of house property, many of whom are poor widows, and most of whom are a class which can with propriety be claimed as being sober, modest and God-fearing, the mainstay of the State and a credit to the country. I am acquainted with many owners of house property, and I plead guilty to being the owner of house property which my people have owned for 150 years. As I have been dealing with tenants of houses, I can speak from first-hand experience. During portion of my time I was also a tenant, so that I can look at this question from both sides. I was rather disappointed on reading the debates in the other House at the attitude adopted by many speakers. In fact, the only thing I can imagine is that the type of cases referred to were reminiscent of a badger hunt, whereas I should imagine that a legislator should try to hold the balance evenly between the two classes and to act as fairly as possible. I know of a house which was set at a rent of £40, on the assumption that it would be used in a certain way, as the tenant might have some difficulty in building up a successful business. No sooner was the tenant in the house than he set one room at £78 a year, and not long after set another room at £52. Therefore, the sub-letting principle is an exceedingly unjust one. There may be cases where it is just, and which would justify a person who owns property setting it on certain conditions, but that people should exploit a letting such as I mentioned was never contemplated. That is only one of hundreds of cases that came under my special notice.

Then there are cases where a landlord owns a house and a tenant goes in and after a short time sells his interest at a considerable profit. Why should rights be filched away in that manner? If I had my way I would abolish the present rent restrictions and would advise the Government to adopt the plan adopted in relation to land, that is, that there should be a national purchase scheme. Owners are not under any obligations to build houses but, if they are simple enough to do so, they are liable in the course of a few years to have their rights removed. Although the Minister suggested that owners would be reasonably safe in investing in house property, any owners that I know intend to get out of house property at the earliest possible moment. Unless a person is a regular fool he is not now going to invest in house property. When it comes to that we must visualise the State being the ultimate owner of all house property, so that when a house falls in the State will be, in a measure, in control. All house owners would welcome such a scheme, as it would explode the stories of fabulous profits that were mentioned in the House this evening. House owners would be delighted with such a scheme. I intend to move some amendments on the Committee Stage dealing particularly with sub-lettings and similar matters. I am rather doubtful, after my experience, of the wisdom of encouraging tenants to go to the courts to claim damages for repairs. While in one case a rent might be reduced, landlords very often are not able to carry out repairs if penalised to the extent of 80 per cent. In order to encourage owners to carry out repairs they are to be allowed one-twelfth of the rent, but if we take the rent of the average house at £24 yearly, the allowance would be £2. Some three months ago I paid £4 10s. 0d. to have two slates put on my house. That is an indication of the cost of house building at present. I am sorry Senator Hearne is not here now, because he has an expert knowledge of building. Everybody knows the cost of building has gone up to a figure never contemplated some years ago. An allowance of £2 on a house let at £24 a year is, in my opinion, inadequate, and should be substantially increased. On the Committee Stage I feel sure that I will be able to deal with the matter more fully and in a way that will be helpful to the Minister and to the House.

Debate adjourned.
The Seanad adjourned at 9 p.m. until 3 p.m. on 13th December, 1945.
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