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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 31 Oct 1984

Vol. 105 No. 13

Adjournment Matter. - Croom (Limerick) Hospital Extension.

I thank the Chair for allowing me to raise this matter this evening. It calls on the Minister for Health to give immediate approval to the tender for the extension of St. Nessan's Orthopaedic Hospital in Croom, County Limerick. The urgency and the necessity for the provision of this badly needed extension to the Croom hospital, the provision of a second theatre suite, can be seen from the fact that active and intensive correspondence in this matter commenced as far back as 1973. Tenders were sought in 1979-80. However, the successful tenderer went into liquidation. Approval to re-advertise this matter was not forthcoming at the time. At the invitation of the Mid-Western Health Board, the Minister for Health visited Limerick in 1983. Approval to proceed to tender was subsequently obtained. Documentation and tendering procedures were carried out. A recommendation to accept a tender was sent to the Minister on 31 July 1984.

There are 120 beds at the orthopaedic hospital in Croom. The building is of 1850 vintage. The present theatre facilities place an enormous burden on the medical staff in terms of the workload and in terms of the danger of infection. It is not unreasonable to say that if approval is not forthcoming immediately, the surgeons might perhaps be loath to continue to operate in the existing conditions.

The urgency and the necessity for the provision of this extension can be seen from the fact that the waiting list as of 31 August 1984 in respect of in-patient treatment totalled 770. This comprised hip operations, 236 and other operative procedures, 534, making a total of 770 patients who require in-patient operative procedures. The waiting list in regard to out-patient facilities currently totals 1,241. It is significant to emphasise that at present there are three orthopaedic consultants at Croom hospital. Comhairle na nOspideal have recommended the appointment of a fourth orthopaedic surgeon. However, this cannot be done until the second theatre suite is provided. The complement of four orthopaedic surgeons accords with the recommendations of Comhairle na nOspideal of one surgeon for every 7,000 of the population. The population of the Mid-Western Health Board at present is 308,000.

We all welcome the tremendous developments that have taken place, especially over the past ten to 20 years, in regard to orthopaedic medicine and services. People can be relieved of great pain and hardship because of the radical change in regard to surgical treatment following the development of total hip operations. In this connection, it is interesting to put on record that in 1972 there were a mere 20 hip operations carried out at the Croom orthopaedic hospital. In 1981 there were 162 operations carried out, an eight-fold increase over a period of ten years. We all know that the number of people requiring such operations is dramatically increasing every year.

I should like to take this opportunity to place on record my appreciation of the great work that is being done by all the medical staff, the nursing staff, the paramedical staff, the catering staff and indeed all the staff of the Croom orthopaedic hospital for the great commitment and dedication which they have shown in providing an advance in medicine in the mid-western region. Those people know no lines of demarcation. They work from early morning until late at night. Some of the surgeons there are on duty for up to 16 hours a day. They work under very difficult conditions. It is for this reason that I ask the Minister for Health and the Minister of State for Health to indicate that they are prepared to give an early approval to this tender so that the Mid-Western Health Board can deal effectively with providing the services that are needed so badly by the people of this area and so that the long waiting list may be cleared.

I do not wish to speak for too long on this issue except to say that I would welcome also the support of the other Members of this House who are interested in this problem.

I thank the Chair for the opportunity to say a brief word in support of Senator Kennedy's motion calling on the Minister for Health to sanction this very necessary project for Croom orthopaedic hospital. The advance in orthopaedic surgery in the past ten years has been nothing short of phenomenal. We have very long waiting lists at present and the provision of this facility is an urgent necessity. The Mid-Western Health Board have put this project as their number one priority for the past three years. It is no harm to tell the House that this scheme was sanctioned previously but that unfortunately the person who tendered actually went into liquidation so we are faced with having to go back over the whole scheme and tender again. We have been absolutely frustrated with the long delay. I hope the Minister will be in a position to give us very good news here tonight and, if he is, perhaps he would also indicate how soon the work could commence.

I support Senator Kennedy in his motion calling on the Minister to ensure that the building and provision of a new theatre would be provided as soon as possible. Of the operations carried out in Croom 80 per cent are of an emergency nature. There are 700, as Senator Kennedy has stated, on the waiting list. About 300 of these would be hip replacement operations and minor replacements. It is very unfair that the hospital in Croom which is servicing the mid-west region, that is, Limerick, Clare and north Tipperary, should not have this theatre which has been requested by the Mid-Western Health Board and sanctioned already by the Minister for Health. We want the approval of the tender to ensure that these operations will be carried out successfully without any undue delay.

Not wishing in any way to take away from the needs that are necessary in the Croom hospital, I suspect that Senator Kennedy, while he has the right to raise the matter on the Adjournment, may have a little more information than he pretends to have. I would not be surprised if this project were sanctioned.

That might be an abuse of the privilege of the House. I am a little bit suspicious about the whole thing. I will not be at all shocked if the Minister of State stands up here and tells Senator Kennedy that the hospital is sanctioned.

The Senator is not being fair to the motion before the House.

I would remind the Minister that I had a motion on the Adjournment some time ago concerning the maternity unit of the Regional Hospital in Galway and he could not give us a few bob for the staff in order to man the hospital that had already been built.

That is a different issue.

For the information of the House, Senator Killilea met me outside and asked what reply I would be giving to Senator Kennedy. I answered that he would get exactly what he wants. It goes to show how easily it is to lead Senator Killilea astray. I am surprised that he would come into the Seanad and interrupt this debate in this way. Though not a Member of this House, I find myself here a lot more often than I have seen Senator Killilea here. This is because he spends most of his time gallivanting around Europe. Perhaps if he spent more time in the Seanad he might be a lot better off with a view to getting to another House.

The Minister will not be here then.

I hope the Senator will be and I mean here.

The Adjournment matter deals with Croom Hospital.

I have a certain sympathy with the case which has been put forward here tonight by Senator Kennedy, Senator Smith and Senator Kiely. It would be difficult to reply to what Senator Killilea said because I did not get the gist of it anyway. Revised tenders for this project, which involves essentially the provision of two theatres and ancillary accommodation, were received in the Department of Health at the beginning of August last. The likely final cost of the project is estimated at some £750,000, which includes the payment of professional fees and the provision of necessary furniture and equipment. Since the submission of tenders to the Department by the Mid-Western Health Board, Senators will be aware of the decisions announced in the Government's national plan of the total amount of capital resources which will be available to the health services during the period of the plan from 1985-87. In all, a total of £177 million will be allocated and that will be broken down as follows: £58 million in 1985, £82 million in 1986 and £61 million in 1987.

The Minister is at this moment working out in detail the precise timing of all the elements within the programme to conform with the parameters defined for him in the national plan. The most immediate task relates to the detailed composition of the health capital programme for 1985. While a total sum of £58 million has been allocated for this year, it will be appreciated by Senators that a substantial proportion of these funds is already committed on a wide variety of already contractually committed projects throughout the country. It would, of course, be necessary therefore to limit the amount of new building starts during 1985 to align with the limited amount of discretionary resources available to the Minister next year. Of equal importance it will be necessary to have regard to the level of ongoing financial commitments which ——

Is that relevant to Croom hospital? The Minister is speaking in general terms.

I am trying to explain what the situation is generally. When the Senator was speaking nobody tried to prevent him from doing so. In the context within which the Minister is examining the question of possible approval for the tenders for the Croom project, at this stage I can only give a commitment on the Minister's part that he will examine the position as sympathetically as possible having regard to all the other competing demands being made on the Department for a share of their scarce capital resources. It just would not be possible in the next 12 months to approve tenders in respect of all projects where the planning process has been completed. Priorities will have to be established and difficult choices made between competing schemes.

Apart from the Croom project there are other schemes within the general hospital care programme on which building will be ready to commence but choices will have to be made. Similarly, there will be many other projects within the four other main care programmes— the psychiatric services, services for the the handicapped, community health services and community welfare services— which will have a claim on the limited funds available. As I have already indicated, the Minister is engaged in the process of determining the detailed make-up of the 1985 health capital programme and it is his intention to finalise the matter within the next few weeks. These decisions will determine whether it is possible for the Croom project and other schemes to commence building during 1985.

The Seanad adjourned at 5.40 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Wednesday, 14 November 1984.

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