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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 21 Nov 1984

Vol. 106 No. 2

Adjournment Matter. - Tuam (Galway) Vocational School.

I should like, first of all, to thank you, Sir, for allowing me to raise this matter and to thank the other Senators who also had a motion before the House for this evening, for giving way to me. This motion concerns a serious situation which has developed in Tuam regarding vocational education. The situation is that the vocational school is in a terrible condition. In this connection I should like to state some facts which may be hurtful but they are factual.

I shall, first of all, go through the history of the school so that Senators will be aware of the facts. In 1974 the Department of Education attempted to have a simultaneous development at the vocational school, Tuam, and the Christian Brothers school in Tuam with a common block to be shared at each school. It was known then as the Thurles Plan. This attempt was very unsuccessful. On 10 February 1975, County Galway VEC made official application to the Department of Education for a new school. The VEC subsequently submitted a schedule of accommodation for schools on 14 May 1975. In succeeding years, Athenry, Kilronan and Loughrea made official applications for new school extensions. The results of their applications were as follows: Kilronan got a large extension; Athenry got a large extension and Loughrea got a completely new school, notwithstanding the fact that their applications were made later than the Tuam application and also notwithstanding the fact that we have the greatest need because the Tuam school has the greatest number of prefabricated classrooms in County Galway, which is the second largest county in the country.

In 1980 the Department of Education requested the Galway Vocational Education Committee to establish a priority list among the four schools in the county where development was needed. A problem arose at this particular stage because of the local political input in the VEC by the local politicians on it. The committee were reluctant to do this and said that planning for all four projects should go ahead at the same time. That was a piece of day-dreaming. As a result of the committee's unwillingness to establish a priority, the Department wrote to the committee on 30 September 1980 proposing to commence planning for the vocational school in Tuam and the vocational school in Portumna. The Department's letter stated: "These schools have the greatest proportion of students in temporary classroom accommodation". That is an acknowledged fact. The committee at their meeting on 21 October 1980, by a majority decision, decided not to accept the Department's proposals and instead voted to proceed with planning for Ballinasloe and Gort. This is where the local polities of County Galway came into play and Tuam was deprived.

I should like to add that there was a time in the history of our country when Fianna Fáil controlled Galway County Council. On the occasion of the election in 1979 we failed to secure that majority and we had only one representative appointed from the county council to the VEC. Sadly, one can see the politics that were being played as regards vocational education, but not played by Fianna Fáil. The Minister is well aware of the facts.

Members of the school management board met Deputy Boland, the then Minister for Education, on 27 October 1981, at the official opening of the Athenry extension to express their plight and to ask that the Government intervene. On 2 June 1982 — the years are very important here, and the dates also — the Department proposed a new school for Tuam in a two-phase development. At the time this was not acceptable for a number of reasons. The requirement was that the old school be refurbished and a new extension built across the road which is the main Dublin-Tuam road — and is quite a distance away from the main offices. After discussions in the town, I led a delegation to the Minister, then Deputy Martin O'Donoghue, who agreed with the suggestions we had made that we should have a full new complex — the first desired request. On 30 July — and I am sure the Minister will verify all those matters for the House — a letter was received from the Department of Education allowing planning for a new building to proceed. On 8 October 1982 a planning and briefing meeting took place between the local architect and his team and the Department of Education's design team. This is normal practice when plans are about to be drawn up. On 17 January 1983, permission from the Department of Education to proceed with the outline sketches was granted and on 23 May 1983 the outline plans were submitted to the Department of Education.

The delay between the permission to proceed with the outline sketch plans and the submission at that time was due to the fact that the Department insisted on the use of a turf-fired central heating system, which was unacceptable to the school management board for various reasons. Negotiations on the matter took many months. On 20 February 1984 permission from the Department to proceed with the next stage of the planning, namely the preparation of the developed sketch plans, was granted. On 1 June 1984 the developed sketch plans mentioned already were submitted to the Department of Education, and after five months we are still waiting for the Department's approval to proceed to the next stage, namely, the seeking of tenders. This is where the matter rests at this particular moment with regard to the plans for the new school.

Tuam is a very famous town for teaching and is renowned throughout the country. I do not have to elaborate on that. Tremendous progress has taken place in all the many schools in the town and I shall give the House the opportunity of appreciating that fact. The Mercy Convent school has two new extensions; St. Jarlath's College has a new extension and a second extension has now been sanctioned; the Presentation Convent is a new school and the Christian Brothers' school is a new school, but in the vocational school there are 11 prefabricated classrooms which have far exceeded their original life-span. I shall deal with this particular aspect, as speed is what I expect from Minister Creed. I know that he is an understanding man and I hope he will appreciate that this is a serious situation.

We have 11 prefabricated classrooms in an incredible condition. They are dilapidated; the frames of the schools are actually rotting; the roofs are sagging and water is coming through the roofs and down through the wall panels. The classrooms during school hours are filled with every type of utensil they can get to gather the water dropping down from the roof. They have basins, buckets and plastic containers of all description scattered all over the classrooms. There is rain on the desks. But far more serious than that — and I want to bring this home to the Minister — the wall panels are so wet that the electrical works, that is the junction boxes and the plugs, are highly dangerous.

We have another new scourge just arrived now — vermin. On account of the decayed condition of the prefabricated dwellings vermin have easy access and it is a major problem today in that school. I say this because five months has gone by and there is no word back from the Department. We are waiting to advertise for tenders. I plead with the Minister here to go back to his Department tomorrow morning, to sanction those matters and get them out urgently as a matter of extreme urgency. I do not believe that any Senator here or even this Government would expect children, parents and teachers to work in those conditions. If there is any sense of heart left in the Department I hope they will use every means to finalise this as a matter of extreme urgency.

Parents will not send their children to school soon and that will be a major tragedy. Then we will have the new angle added to it, namely because of the dwindling numbers at the Tuam vocational school I am afraid we will not have to build a school at all. That is a serious situation. I said here last week — and Senator Bulbulia is here this evening — that I am afraid that this Government are not in love with vocational education and I had Tuam in mind when I said it. I am putting it to Senator Bulbulia, that if she had children going to that school she might hesitate to send them. I want a positive and complete answer this evening. For the sake of the vocational school in Tuam that has suffered agony for so many years I appeal to the Minister to respond to me in a most positive and exact way.

I support the case made by Senator Killilea on behalf of the vocational school in Tuam. I had occasion a number of times to go on deputations to three different Ministers for Education over the past number of years, and each time the importance of this school was stressed. I know that it is a very slow process in getting plans prepared and everything else but, as Senator Killilea has rightly pointed out, the situation is deteriorating all the time and it is very hard to expect children to attend a school in that kind of environment.

From what he has said also it can be proved positively that vocational education is the Cinderella of the Department. All the other schools in the town, which is a thriving prosperous town, have got extensions over the years and a considerable amount of money has been spent on them. The case has been made time and time again for a new vocational school but yet we still are left without our school. The number of children attending the school has increased dramatically in the last few years and the results at exam time have been tremendous when you consider the environment in which the teachers and the pupils work. For that reason it is very important, particularly where we have an industrial base such as the sugar factory and the other factories that are located in Tuam, that we have the vocational school there. The training young boys get in the vocational school in mechanical drawing, carpentry and everything else is of great advantage to them in later years when they seek or get jobs in those factories. For that reason I would plead again with the Minister to give sanction to the school and to start the work immediately. All the plans are ready. The Department know what is needed. They know the urgency of the situation there. I would just merely plead with him to give sanction and to allow us to go ahead with this school.

I propose first to deal with the report available to me on the Tuam vocational school and I propose to reply to the points raised by the two Senators.

My Department have approved the planning of a new vocational school at Tuam to provide 350 places. In the long term the accommodation will include 17 teaching spaces, a special room and general classroom, a library and physical education facilities and other ancillary accommodation. The existing accommodation has 16 classrooms, of which nine are temporary and prefabricated. Conditions at this school and at the other vocational schools in the County Galway VEC's area have been the subject of discussion between the committee and my Department for the past few years. In 1980 the committee were asked to assign priorities between four of their major school proposals to enable architectural planning of at least two of these projects to commence as soon as possible. The four schools were at Gort, Tuam, Ballinasloe and Portumna. In connection with this request to the committee to assign priority, I should explain that in the case of a capital programme of that magnitude for second level school buildings where at the moment we have about 400 projects of one kind or another, it is necessary to arrange the programme on a basis that will take into account the flow of financial expenditure and revenue available for the various projects in hand in each financial year. The administration of the programme as approved must take account of the dates of completion of programmes already under way and the dates of final payments for building projects already completed. Authority for the placing of new contracts may be given only with due regard for the incidence of payments arising from the contract as well as the resources available in professional and administrative staff to deal expeditiously with claims for payments.

In view of the unwillingness of the committee to set priorities in their area, the Department proposed to the committee towards the end of 1980 that the architectural planning of Tuam and Portumna projects be initiated as these schools had the greater number of students housed in temporary accommodation. However, the County Galway VEC decided to proceed with the planning of the Ballinasloe and Gort projects first. The Department agreed to this and indicated that the position regarding Tuam and Portumna would be reviewed in 1981 as part of an overall review of priorities at that time. As the result of the review of 1981, it was decided that Tuam would be included among the projects for which architectural planning could commence in 1982 based on an anticipated enrolment capacity for 350 students. Planning of the project is proceeding on the basis of a completely new school on a new site across the road and a short distance from the existing school. However, as some of the existing permanent accommodation is suitable for retention in the short term, it is proposed to build the new school in two phases.

Phase one will replace the temporary prefabricated accommodation and will commence construction as soon as planning has been completed. A decision as to when the building of the second phase will commence to replace the existing permanent accommodation considered to be sub-standard in the long term will be made in the light of our available resources at that particular time. Examination of the developed sketch scheme for the project is completed and the County Galway VEC will be advised on the preparation of the next stage, that is, the detailed design stage, not the bills of quantities. The question of seeking tenders will not arise until later when the bills of quantities have been submitted and found to be in order. Otherwise, the planning is proceeding as quickly as our resources allow.

As regards the condition of the existing accommodation, both permanent and temporary prefabricated, I must point out that the maintenance of the building is a matter in the first instance for the committee. What I want to say here is that as far as the maintenance and repair of existing accommodation at the vocational schools is concerned it is a matter for the local county VEC. As I do not intend to take up the political scene in County Galway I am not going to get involved between the politicians there, but I accept from the Senators that the situation in Tuam is rather serious. Unfortunately we have 400 other applications as well dealing with the provision of extensions or replacement of vocational and second level schools.

Senator Killilea said that in 1975 an application was made for a new school in Tuam. I am in office only for the last two years but I must say that one of the things that has concerned me more than anything else is the number of prefabricated buildings erected at post-primary and primary schools. It was a shortsighted programme. Prefabricated buildings should be erected only in the event of some emergency that could not be catered for under conventional type building. We have many calls on our resources. We have 400 post-primary applications and over 800 primary applications.

With regard to Tuam, the position is that we are within two weeks of returning to the Galway County VEC to ask them to prepare the next stage, which is the detailed design stage. If the Senator can get his committee or county VEC to produce that to us as quickly as possible the next stage is the bill of quantities which we will be asking them to prepare and submit to us. This is a detailed operation and will not be done overnight either by the county VEC or the Department of Education. If the bill of quantities is submitted to the Department it will be necessary to have a detailed examination of the proposals set out in that programme.

I am aware of the urgency of the matter. I have discussed it today with some of my officials. It is not ready to go to tender at this stage and it could be some time yet before it is ready. It requires the co-operation of the county VEC in Galway and of my Department. I will have the matter examined as soon as County Galway VEC return the detailed design plans to me. I will have them examined as soon as possible and seek the bill of quantities for the VEC.

The Seanad adjourned at 8.30 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Wednesday, 28 November 1984.

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