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Seanad Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 9 Oct 2012

Vol. 217 No. 9

Adjournment Matters

National Museum

As this is the first time I have raised a matter on the Adjournment, forgive me if I get the procedures wrong. I warmly welcome the Minister to the Seanad and extend my congratulations to him on securing approval from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform to fill the post of director of the National Museum of Ireland. I know how difficult it can be and I acknowledge the work of the Minister's dedicated and committed officials in securing this approval.

I raise this issue because I would like clarification on the role of the statutory board of the National Museum of Ireland in the selection and appointment of the new director. The appointment of a director of the National Museum of Ireland needs the consent of the Minister, as per section 29(1) of the National Cultural Institutions Act 1997. The Minister debated in this House the Independent group's motion on the national cultural institutions and said on 27 June that the dismantling of the National Cultural Institutions Act was not in his plans. The Minister's statement issued on 3 October last does not mention the role of the board of the National Museum of Ireland in the recruitment, selection or appointment of the director. I note that the current chairman of the museum board, Dr. John O'Mahony, expressed his concern that there was no mention of the board anywhere in the Minister's statement on 3 October.

I understand, and heartily agree with, the process of open competition and it being managed by the Public Appointments Service, but the reason I raise this issue is to seek clarification that the Minister is not dismantling the 1997 Act by bypassing the statutory board in recruiting the director of the National Museum of Ireland. Will the Minister clarify that the future employer of the new director of the museum will be the board of the National Museum of Ireland, as set out in the Act, and that the board will be involved in the recruitment and appointment of the new director with the Minister's consent?

I welcome the opportunity to clarify the issues raised by the Senator. In my response, I would like to be abundantly clear in regard to the issues which arose following the resignation of the previous director of the National Museum of Ireland, the steps which have been taken by my Department since that time and the process which is being followed regarding the appointment of a new director.

As the Senator pointed out, section 29(1) of the 1997 National Cultural Institutions Act provides for the appointment of a chief executive officer of the museum who shall be known as the director of the museum. The roles and responsibilities which attach to the director post are many and are carried out under the direction and guidance of the board of the museum. The 1997 Act provides that the director of the museum shall be appointed by the board of the museum with the consent of the Minister. These provisions are set out very clearly in section 29 of the Act.

In late January this year, the then director of the national museum wrote to me to inform me of his decision to retire from his post from 29 February. In his communication, the then director regretted the short notice of his intention to retire. It is a fact that at this time there is in place a moratorium on appointments at all levels within the public sector. Therefore, my Department had to seek approval from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform to suspend the moratorium in the case of the director of the National Museum of Ireland and to fill the post. The national museum had to make a case for the new appointment to be made and terms and conditions for the new appointment also had to be agreed. While this process was under way, approval was sought and secured from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform to appoint an acting director in the interim.

Following ongoing contact between my Department and the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform, last week the approval to proceed with the appointment of a new director at the National Museum of Ireland was secured. I was pleased to advise the Dáil of this development last Wednesday, 3 October, on which date I also wrote formally to the chair of the national museum.

An independent recruitment process to be managed by the Public Appointments Service will now commence to allow for the selection and recruitment of a suitably qualified candidate for this prestigious post. Let me be absolutely clear - the recruitment process will be managed by the Public Appointments Service as the agent of the National Museum of Ireland. The National Museum of Ireland, with my consent, is the appointment entity. The timescale for completion of this recruitment process is a matter for the Public Appointments Service, but I am given to understand that the post of director will be advertised publicly in the coming weeks. I hope that is the case, as I wish to see the new director in place as soon as possible, but I must again reiterate that this is an independent recruitment process managed by the Public Appointments Service.

The proposed recruitment process is similar to those employed in the recent recruitment of the current directors of a number of our other national cultural institutions, including the National Gallery of Ireland, the Irish Museum of Modern Art and the National Concert Hall. All these appointments, and that of the director of the Arts Council, were made in this fashion, with the Public Appointments Service operating as the recruitment agency for the cultural institutions involved.

All of the appointments are made ultimately by the board of the relevant institution, with my consent, as provided for in statute. This is the same situation as now arises in the case of the new director of the National Museum of Ireland. Any attempt to portray the process of appointment of the new director of the National Museum of Ireland as somehow odd, unusual or atypical is simply wrong.

The facts of the matter are very simple. To be abundantly clear, let me recap briefly on all steps in this process. The former director of the National Museum of Ireland retired after short notice at the end of February. I would like to recognise the work of Dr. Pat Wallace. He was much committed to the National Museum of Ireland for a long time and I am delighted to say that his celebrated book on Wood Quay will be published next year. That will, no doubt, be very important from the point of the commemoration of 1014 and Viking Dublin.

My Department sought and received approval for the board to appoint an acting director who has been in place since March. Due to the moratorium in place on recruitment in the public service, an agreement had to be secured to suspend the moratorium in this case. To this end, the museum board made a business case to my Department for the filling of the director post, in accordance with the process for addressing all vacancies in the public sector.

Approval to fill the post was received from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform last week and I announced the matter in the Dáil in response to a parliamentary question. The sanction to fill the post was also conveyed by me to the chairman of the National Museum of Ireland, and it now falls to the museum to liaise with the Public Appointments Service in relation to the advertising of the post, the recruitment campaign and so forth. The terms, conditions and salary for the new director of the National Museum of Ireland, when appointed, will be the same as those which applied to the previous director.

I should mention the series of efficiency measures announced in the Government's public service reform plan last November which included proposals to examine the issue of shared services and the board structure of both the National Library and the National Museum. A report outlining the progress to date and the proposed way forward in respect of these issues was forwarded to the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform in July and I am advised that this information is being assimilated with a view to it being submitted to Government for consideration in due course.

I hope that this clarifies the position for the Senator.

Yes, it does clarify the situation and I thank the Minister.

Health Services Staff Recruitment

I understand the Minister is also taking the matter I have raised, which relates to the recruitment of junior doctors.

According to figures for 2011, there are 4,751 junior doctors employed in the Irish health system. Of these, 1,703 are senior house officers, 546 are interns, 1,568 are registrars and 934 are senior registrar specialists. We do not have a problem with senior registrar specialists, who are all on five year contracts. However, there is considerable uncertainty regarding the contracts of senior house officers and registrars.

I did my own study of attitudes of final year medical students in 2012 and concluded that only 34.5% of graduates would be working in Irish hospitals 12 months after graduating from Irish universities. Part of the reason for this is that junior doctors are offered contracts of six months or 12 months. In Australia, New Zealand or the United Kingdom, doctors' contracts can be for two or three years. The contracts may mean working in more than one hospital, but they give security of employment and the prospect of a planned programme of medical education.

How are we going to deal with this issue? When the Government came to power in March 2011, the Minister for Health found there was a huge shortage of junior doctors, and the HSE had to go to India and Pakistan to recruit doctors. All of the people brought in at that time were given two year contracts which will expire in July 2013. We now need a plan to commence on 1 January 2013.

The Minister for Health apologises for his non-availability this evening. He has assured me that he will listen to the debate and respond to Senator Burke's question.

Against the background of shortages of non-consultant hospital doctors, NCHDs, in many countries, a number of recruitment and retention initiatives have been undertaken by the HSE in the past two years and, as a result, all essential hospital services have been maintained. Given the central role that NCHDs play in the provision of hospital services, ensuring the necessary number and types of NCHDs are available to the service is a priority issue for the Minister for Health.

Since 2007 the HSE has increased the proportion of training posts from 40% of all NCHD posts to over 80%, all of whom are recruited by postgraduate training bodies for placement in hospitals and agencies. The remaining 19% of posts not categorised as training posts, comprise a combination of posts occupied by doctors with contracts of indefinite duration and doctors who rotate regularly between different posts, some of whom have recently left or are hoping to rejoin training schemes. Three quarters of these posts are in HSE hospitals and agencies with the balance in HSE funded agencies.

The standard six month duration of contract arises from the rotation of doctors between different posts as part of training schemes. In cases where the relevant postgraduate training body does not fill a post, a vacancy arises to be filled by the HSE or HSE funded agency on a non-training basis. The majority of such posts are at senior house officer, SHO, and registrar level and tend to be located in small to medium-sized hospitals and concentrated in six areas: emergency medicine, anaesthesia, general surgery, orthopaedic surgery, general medicine and paediatrics.

In 2010, the HSE acted to address the issue of six month terms of contract on the basis that the configuration, tenure and supports for such posts were inadequate to attract the number and calibre of NCHDs required to provide safe, high quality services to patients and clients of the public health service. In this context, the HSE prepared proposals that hospitals move from the standard NCHD job offer of a six month contract at a single hospital site to a standard two year contract of employment. This would involve an element of rotation, including a placement for six months in a large regional centre or complex tertiary service setting. Such posts would remain graded as SHO or registrar posts, and appointments would be made under NCHD Contract 2010. The HSE has proposed that all vacant SHO and registrar posts would be advertised on this revised basis to existing staff locally, to agency staff nationally and internationally, and on a broader international basis.

The proposals are among a range of issues to be discussed between health service management and the Irish Medical Organisation under the auspices of the Labour Relations Commission in the coming weeks. My colleague, the Minister for Health, has asked me to assure the Senator that the HSE is committed to ensuring all doctors are given contracts that support service delivery and offer opportunities to post holders to develop their skills and expertise.

I thank the Minister for that response. I welcome the change he outlined but I am not convinced that all of the posts will have two or three year contracts, and we should move towards that. Certainty and security are important. Administration could be cut by more than 50% if we had two year contracts. That is how we should be moving. I will continue to raise the matter with the Minister for Health. We must ensure we are ready to deal with the vacancies that will arise on 1 July 2013. I thank the Minister for Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht for taking the time to be with us in the Seanad today and to deal with the matters raised.

I will convey the Senator's concerns to the Minister for Health. The Senator may wish to outline those concerns in a letter to the Minister, or if he outlines them in a letter to me, I will see to it that they are passed on to the Minister.

Public Transport Provision

I welcome the Minister of State at the Department of Transport, Deputy Alan Kelly, to the House.

Tá mé buíoch don Leas-Chathaoirleach as an ábhar seo, maidir le seirbhísí busanna i gContae na Mí agus thart timpeall, a roghnú don díospóireacht ar an Athló. I thank the Leas-Chathaoirleach for allowing me to raise this important matter on the Adjournment.

In recent months, I have noticed many problems with bus services, especially in the commuter belt of County Meath. I understand these problems are also a feature of other parts of the commuter belt. The problems arise mainly with Bus Éireann. I am not here to complain about Bus Éireann, but to encourage the company to provide an even better service than at present.

It has been brought to my attention that commuters on the 109 route from as far away as Kells are unable to board buses on some mornings because the buses are full since leaving Cavan. This is not acceptable. Other passengers have boarded buses in Kells that have taken two and half hours to reach Dublin.

I have received complaints from constituents in south County Meath further down the No. 109 route and related connecting routes onto the old M3, particularly the No. 111 route from Trim and Batterstown. Some commuters cannot get onto those buses either. On three of the five days last week, at least two dozen commuters were unable to get on buses and were subsequently late for work. That is unacceptable in this day and age, particularly when one considers the prices people are paying for tickets. I understand it is €54 per week for a ten journey ticket from Kells and Cavan, and €38.50 from Dunshaughlin. An annual ticket from the Fairyhouse area costs nearly €1,500, before the taxsaver break. These are working people who are glad to have a job, but they find they cannot get on the buses. This is a service the State provides through Bus Éireann.

I also wish to highlight the ongoing issue regarding the town of Stamullen, which I have also raised with the National Transport Authority. Stamullen is the largest town in Ireland without a public bus service. I do not blame the current Government or the previous one for that, but that is the position. The town has grown without the service. One can walk two miles to Gormanston, where there is a fantastic bus and train service, but the buses do not go through the town of Stamullen. I have suggested to the National Transport Authority that it consider diverting a number of the buses on the Drogheda-Dublin route to go through Stamullen to give a direct service to the people. There was an initiative by the last Government under the rural transport initiative which provided a connecting service from the village to Gormanston, but it did not work out. It was too expensive. It meant an extra €2 or €3 on the price of the ticket and it was not worthwhile for people to pay it.

People in County Meath are being made late for work while some people, such as those in Stamullen, do not have a service. I understand the National Transport Authority is conducting an audit of public transport in the commuter belt. That is what the authority told me when I contacted it. The authority should examine the issues I have raised. I look forward to the Minister's response.

I thank the Senator for raising this issue. It is one that has been raised in other parts of the country as well.

First, it must be stated that the National Transport Authority, NTA, is responsible for securing the provision of public passenger transport services. Neither I nor the Minister, Deputy Leo Varadkar, exercise ministerial powers in the area. Where the public bus passenger services are provided commercially without a public service obligation, the NTA regulates the provision of those services under the Public Transport Regulation Act 2009. Where a public service obligation applies to a public bus passenger service, the NTA provides those services in accordance with the Dublin Transport Authority Act 2008 in the form of public service contracts. These contracts can either be direct award contracts, such as those with Dublin Bus and Bus Éireann, or competitively tendered. At all times, the NTA must work within the budget that has been provided for the public service obligation, which has reduced by 20% since 2009.

It is a matter for Dublin Bus and Bus Éireann, with the agreement of the NTA in the case of subvented services, to decide on service levels and changes to services, which takes account of customer volumes and needs, fare revenue and the funding available for public service obligation services. The Dublin commuter belt consists of a mixture of commercial licensed services provided by Bus Éireann and other private operators and routes which have a public service obligation, and are provided under contract by Dublin Bus, Bus Éireann and larnród Éireann. The NTA is undertaking an extensive review of the services provided in the Dublin commuter belt and there may be changes to those public service obligation services to better meet the needs of the public transport customer within the resources that are available.

The CIE group has to date implemented significant cost management measures, including the implementation of the Deloitte cost and efficiency review of Dublin Bus and Bus Éireann. To compensate for the reduced passenger revenues and public service obligation subvention, CIE engaged in a cost recovery programme which has focused on revisions to its network of services and, in particular, the implementation of the Dublin Bus network direct project. Over the past two years, Dublin Bus has revised its full network of services to better meet the needs of customers. All services have been adjusted in line with customer demand at both peak and off-peak times. Dublin Bus constantly monitors service performance and, where required, adjustments are made.

I am aware of the redesign of Expressway services and other Bus Éireann routes and have made inquiries with the company on the matter. Expressway services do not receive a subsidy either directly or indirectly. Bus Éireann's services were not as direct as their competitors and due to that, and the recession, have lost passengers and revenue. In order to gain competitiveness it has, therefore, had to redesign its Expressway services. I appreciate that changes to bus services will inconvenience some passengers. However, given the financial position that the CIE companies find themselves in, there is no alternative for the companies but to ensure that commercial operations operate on a commercial footing and that, unfortunately, limits their scope for changing the services.

That said, there is still a comprehensive service offering along Expressway routes through services from Bus Éireann along with other operators. I have asked the NTA to put together integrated timetables of all bus and rail services across all affected routes and these should be published shortly.

Following the establishment of the NTA in December 2009, the implementation and development of infrastructure projects in the greater Dublin area, GDA, comes under the remit of the NTA. The NTA is also responsible for the roll-out of real-time passenger information, RTPI, in the GDA and the four regional cities of Cork, Galway, Limerick and Waterford. The RTPI project in the GDA involves the installation of up to 500 on-street information signs capable of displaying the arrival times of buses. These RTPI displays are being located at selected bus stops or interchange points in the GDA. The first phase of sign deployments is now 98% complete in the GDA.

We continue to provide for significant capital investment in both bus companies. In the case of Dublin Bus, 80 new buses are being funded by the NTA and delivery of new buses has now commenced and is expected to cost in the region of €25 million. The full order will be delivered on a staged basis as the buses are manufactured over the remaining months of 2012. In 2011, Dublin Bus received approximately €3.7 million in funding towards bus refurbishment and a further €750,000 towards its bus shelter programme. This year the NTA expects to provide up to €3.5 million for fleet refurbishment and about €750,000 for its bus shelter programme. In 2011, 60 new buses were delivered to Bus Éireann at a cost to the Exchequer of €18.5 million.

The NTA is introducing the Leap card scheme in the GDA on a phased basis, based on smart card technology. Phase 1 of the Leap card scheme was launched in December 2011 on the services of Dublin Bus, Luas and Irish Rail DART-commuter rail. Further roll out of the scheme is continuing in 2012 with the launch of the student travel card in September leading to significant growth in Leap cards issued arising from this launch. Bus Éireann commenced pilot operations in September on its eastern regional services in the GDA. Additional private bus operators will be integrated into the scheme over the coming months. In early 2013, annual and monthly passes will be issued on the Leap card, as cardholders renew passes, and additional products such as multi-journey tickets will be rolled out on Dublin Bus in early 2013. Funding has been provided to Dublin Bus and Bus Éireann from the overall capital allocation for the scheme of €55.4 million. The scheme continues to function well with almost 150,000 cards issued to date and 8.5 million journeys undertaken using Leap cards.

On the specific issue of the No. 109 route raised by the Senator, if he provides me with more information I will ask the NTA to investigate the matter. We have received a huge amount of correspondence relating to various routes due to the work that Bus Éireann is now undertaking as a result of the unfortunate circumstances in which it finds itself. As public representatives, we must take cognisance of the holistic picture, particularly in the case of Expressway services. It is a competitive area and there are other providers. However, I do not deny that the Senator has outlined certain issues that require examination by my office and that will be done. On the matter of no public bus provision in the town mentioned by the Senator, if he provides me with further information I will certainly look into it. Perhaps he would do so at his convenience.

I will be glad to do that. Stamullen is the largest town in Ireland with no public bus service. There is no private service either. The issue with the No. 109 route is a matter for Bus Éireann as there is no competing regular commuter service available to commuters on that route. Other parts of Meath have a regular private bus service that competes with Bus Éireann. The people who are paying the price of tickets, and tickets are not cheap now, are entitled to a service from Bus Éireann. It is not fair, or even contractual, for a full bus to drive past when no alternative is put in place. Private operators who are running commuter services could put alternatives in place. There should at least be some system whereby the bus takes the annual ticket holders first if there happens to be a shortage of bus space and, perhaps, provide another bus. It is not right that people are made late for work because of this. I appeal to the Minister of State and the National Transport Authority to do their best to deal with this.

As I said previously, I did not know the exact route before coming to the House. If the Senator provides me with the details, I will ensure it is examined as a matter of urgency.

The Seanad adjourned at 6.50 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 10 October 2012.
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