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COMMITTEE of PUBLIC ACCOUNTS debate -
Tuesday, 4 Dec 2001

Vol. 3 No. 27

2000 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts.

Vote 9: Office of the Revenue Commissioners.

Mr. D. Quigley (Chairman, Office of the Revenue Commissioners) called and examined.

We are now in public session. Notwithstanding this provision in legislation, I should remind members of the long-standing parliamentary practice to the effect that members should not comment on, criticise or make charges against a person outside the House or an official either by name or in such a way as to make him or her identifiable. Members are also reminded of the provision in Standing Order 149 that the committee should refrain from inquiring into the merits of a policy or policies of the Government or a Minister.

Mr. Dermot Quigley, will you please introduce your officials?

Mr. Quigley

I am accompanied by Mr. Eamonn O'Dea, principal inspector in the office of the chief inspector of taxes and Mr. Paddy O'Shaughnessy, Principal Officer, who has responsibility in the corporate management division for liaison with the Comptroller and Auditor General and the Committee of Public Accounts.

Mr. C. Gallagher is from the Department of Finance. Paragraphs 9 to 14, inclusive, of the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General read:

Vote 9 - Office of the Revenue Commissioners

9. Revenue Account

Basis for Audit

An account showing all revenue received and paid over to the Exchequer by the Revenue Commissioners is furnished to me annually. I am required under Section 3 of the Comptroller and Auditor General (Amendment) Act, 1993 to carry out such examinations of this account as I consider appropriate in order to satisfy myself as to its completeness and accuracy and to report to Dáil Éireann on the results of my examinations. The results of my examinations have been generally satisfactory.

I am also required under Section 3 of the Comptroller and Auditor General (Amendment) Act, 1993 to carry out such examinations as I consider appropriate in order to ascertain whether systems, procedures and practices have been established that are adequate to secure an effective check on the assessment, collection and proper allocation of the revenue of the State and to satisfy myself that the manner in which they are being employed and applied is adequate. Paragraphs 15 and 16 refer to matters arising from this examination.

Revenue Collected

Revenue collected under its main headings in 2000 is shown in Table 1.

Table 1 Revenue Collected

Gross Receipts £m

Repayments £m

Net Receipts £m

1999 Net Receipts £m

Income Tax

7,875

688

7,187

6,306

Value Added Tax

7,809

1,928

5,881

4,895

Excise

3,631

147

3,484

3,163

Corporation Tax

3,187

127

3,060

2,711

Stamps

884

25

859

719

Customs

174

11

163

144

Capital Acquisitions Tax

181

5

176

151

Capital Gains Tax

616

7

609

356

Residential Property Tax

2

1

1

1

Total

24,359

2,939

21,420

18,446

Of the net receipts of £21,420m, a total of £132m was paid during 2000 under Section 3 of the Appropriation Act, 1999 from the proceeds of tobacco excise to the Vote for Health and Children and £21,300m was paid into the Exchequer. As a result, there was a balance of £49m prepaid to the Exchequer at year end compared to a balance of £37m prepaid at the end of the previous year. As the final lodgment to the Exchequer at year end is required to be made on 31 December, before final reconciliations for each tax-head can be completed, there is necessarily an element of estimation which can result in over or under lodgments by Revenue to the Exchequer.

10. Write Offs

The Revenue Commissioners have furnished me with details of taxes written off during the year ended 31 December 2000. Details of the total amount written off and the distribution according to the grounds of write-off are shown in Table 2 and Table 3.

Table 2 Taxes Written off 2000

Tax

2000 £000

1999 £000

Value Added Tax

33,783

32,833

PAYE

13,202

15,018

Corporation Tax

5,445

5,573

Income Tax

15,092

19.860

Other Taxes

1,758

2,066

PRSI

12,831

12,959

Total

82,111

88,309

Table 3 Grounds of Write-off

Grounds of write-off

2000 No. of Cases

2000 £000

1999 No. of cases

1999 £000

Liquidation/Receivership/Bankruptcy

397

19,558

475

28,457

Ceased trading - no assets

1,432

32,980

2,347

33,128

Deceased and Estate Insolvent

144

2,579

194

3,324

Uneconomic to pursue

1,196

12,197

519

6,110

Unfounded Liability

34

458

40

2,397

Cannot be traced/Outside Jurisdiction

297

4,713

403

5,573

Compassionate Grounds

89

1,184

83

608

Uncollectable due to financial circumstances of taxpayer

382

7,965

439

8,395

Examinership

4

477

1

317

Totals

3,975

82,111

4,501

88,309

The Internal Audit Branch in Revenue undertakes an annual examination of a sample of cases written off. The internal audit of 1999 write-offs in which 185 or just over 4% of cases were examined has recently been completed. The results of the audit were satisfactory and while some procedural problems were identified, no instances were found where tax was improperly written off. The internal audit of 2000 write-offs has recently commenced and it is again planned to examine 4% of cases.

I have examined a sample of cases representing over 12% of the value written off through a review of the procedures followed and of supporting reports and records with a focus on high value cases. The results indicated that, in general, the authorised procedures were followed. However, I have also commenced a more in depth examination of a sample of cases in some categories of write-off in order to establish the extent and adequacy of Revenue activity over the years prior to write-off and whether the relevant lessons are learned from such cases. I intend reporting on the results of that examination in due course.

11. Outstanding Taxes and PRSI

Table 4 was prepared on the basis of information furnished by the Revenue Commissioners and reflects the activities and transactions in the twelve month period ended 31 May 2001 - the latest date for which data was available at the time of finalising my Report.

Table 4 Outstanding Taxes and Levies

Balance at 31 May 2000 £m

Tax or Levy

Charges/Estimates Raised £m

Paid £m

Balance at 31 May 2001 £m

Estimate of amount likely to be collected £m

388

Income Tax (Excluding PAYE)

1,538

1,553

373

223

-

DIRT

350

350

-

-

100

VAT (Declared Liabilities Net of Repayments)

5,117

5,091

126

110

150

VAT (Estimates)

52

37

165

75

69

PAYE (Declared Liabilities)

5,476

5,471

74

49

22

PAYE (Estimates)

241

241

22

9

Balance at 31 May 2000 £m

Tax or Levy

Charges/Estimates Raised £m

Paid £m

Balance at 31 May 2001 £m

Estimate of amount likely to be collected £m

71

PRSI (Declared Liabilities)

2,896

2,889

78

45

17

PRSI (Estimates)

117

118

16

9

169

Corporation Tax

3,208

3,148

229

157

50

Capital Gains Tax

661

638

73

58

13

Capital Acquisitions Tax

182

181

14

9

6

Abolished Taxes

1

1

6

-

1,055

Total

19,839

19,718

1,176

744

The balance outstanding at 31 May 2001 of £1,176m is £121m greater than at the same point in 2000. It is estimated that £744m or 63% of the total outstanding is likely to be eventually collected. This compares with an estimated collection ratio of 53% at May 2000. The estimation of the amount likely to be collected takes into account such factors as anticipated reductions of estimated amounts brought forward, the level of liquidations and business closures and historical business patterns.

Included in the total of £350m for DIRT is a sum of £173m comprising tax, interest and penalties from 'look back' audits of financial institutions.

12. Revenue Audit Programme

Overall Audit Programme

In a self assessment system returns filed by compliant taxpayers are accepted as the basis for calculating tax liabilities. The validity of returns is established by the auditing of a selection of cases either through reviewing and seeking further verification of particular details or by the examination of documents and records at a taxpayer's premises. The majority of audits carried out by the Revenue Commissioners are specific to taxheads such as VAT or PAYE, but a significant number of comprehensive audits are also carried out. These may focus on all taxes but are primarily aimed at Income Tax, Corporation Tax and Capital Gains Tax. In the course of my audit, a small representative sample of settlements were reviewed with satisfactory results.

The outcome of the 2000 programme of Revenue audits is summarised in Table 5, which also includes 69 audits arising from investigation and anti-avoidance activity. I have been informed that the reduction of 1,040 in the overall number of audits over the 1999 figures was due mainly to the involvement of 67 auditors in the more intensive DIRT audits.

Table 5 Revenue Audit Programme

Audit Type

2000

1999

No. of audits completed

Yield £m

No. of audits completed

Yield £m

Comprehensive

2,270

53.8

2,512

47.3

Value Added Tax

4,409

27.6

5,101

31.9

PAYE Employers

2,104

9.4

2,768

12.3

Relevant Contracts Tax (RCT)

352

1.3

384

1.5

Combined Fiduciary VAT, PAYE and (RCT)

670

4.7

892

3.0

Capital Acquisitions Tax

388

2.9

490

3.2

Verification

1,733

3.7

1,848

3.1

Desk Verification

4,393

4.3

3,400

6.9

Investigation Branch

4

0.2

7

0.2

Anti-Avoidance

7

1.9

26

1.6

’Pick-me-Ups’

21

0.1

-

-

DIRT

37

173.3

-

-

Total

16,388

283.2

17,428

111.0

Comprehensive Audits

The selection of cases for comprehensive audit from the 409,299 returns issued for 1999 is made on the basis of such factors as screening of annual returns, re-audit of cases with previous undercharges, other information available to Revenue and random selection. Generally, a settlement is agreed following completion of the audit and any outstanding amount is paid. A number of settlements involve the restriction of losses which may be carried forward against future years profits. Where an Inspector is unsuccessful in collecting the additional amount of tax and interest arising on audit adjustments, the amounts are referred to the Collector General for collection.

The outcome of the 2,270 comprehensive audits completed in 2000 is detailed in Table 6. The highest individual settlements were £1,222,870 for Income Tax and £1,046,088 for Corporation Tax. The overall yield of £53.8m includes interest charges of £7.8m and penalties of £6.4m.

Table 6 Yield from Comprehensive Audits

Income Tax Number

Yield £000

Corporation Tax Number

Yield £000

Agreed Settlements

£1 to £5,000

400

1,058

93

314

£5,001 to £50,000

575

9,191

195

3,651

£50,001 to £100,000

50

3,413

35

2,427

Over £100,000

56

13,238

41

11,283

Other Settlement Activity

Returns accepted - no additional tax payable

592

-

177

-

Settled by restriction of losses carried forward to future years

20

480

16

8,101

Referred to Collector for enforcement action

17

414

3

258

Totals

1,710

27,794

560

26,034

Random Audits

Prior to 2001, it was Revenue policy that 2% of cases selected for audit as part of the comprehensive, VAT and PAYE/PRSI audit programmes would be selected randomly. This was increased to 6% with effect from 2001. The 2% policy for 2000 would indicate a target of approximately 175 random audits. In the event, 437 random audits were completed in 2000 consisting of 77 comprehensive (3%), 195 VAT (4%) and 165 PAYE/PRSI (8%). The returns of 342 taxpayers were accepted as originally submitted while additional liabilities of £493,459, including £105,564 in interest and penalties, were assessed in the other 95 cases.

13. Revenue Prosecution Activity

Prosecutions for Serious Tax Evasion

Under Revenue prosecution strategy, audit districts are required to forward cases to Investigation Branch for investigation with a view to criminal prosecution where there is prima facie evidence of serious revenue offences having been committed. These cases are further evaluated within the Branch before commencement of the very resource intensive criminal investigation work which can take several years before reaching the Courts. Of a total of 37 cases on hands at the end of 2000, 19 are still under investigation, 13 are proceeding to prosecution, 3 have been closed and convictions have been secured in two cases.

Convictions were obtained in all three of the cases decided in Court in 2000. A director of a company was convicted of submitting false VAT repayment claims and sentenced to two years imprisonment. In the second case, a director of a company was convicted of delivering an incorrect return and fined £750. In the third case, an individual was convicted of submitting a false VAT repayment claim and received a twelve month suspended sentence.

Prosecution of Non-Filers

Taxpayers failing to submit returns of Income Tax and Corporation Tax normally receive a warning letter from the Revenue Solicitor. In the event that returns are still not submitted, legal proceedings are instituted. During 2000, 8,190 warning letters were issued and 1,017 cases (936 Income Tax and 81 Corporation Tax) were successfully prosecuted with fines totalling £734,656. Court orders were obtained in two of these cases which required the convicted person to submit all outstanding returns.

Penalties totalling £146,700 were imposed by the Courts on 79 employers for failing to make P35 Employer returns on time. In a further 219 cases, penalties totalling £277,500 were imposed by Revenue and were paid by employers. Penalties totalling £271,000 were also imposed by Revenue on 157 employers but were not paid and court proceedings are now being taken for recovery of the amounts due.

14. Special Investigations

DIRT and Financial Institutions

In accordance with Section 904B (inserted by Section 68 of the Finance Act 2000) of the Taxes Consolidation Act, 1997 Revenue submitted a report on the outcome of the DIRT 'look-back' audit of the financial institutions to the Committee of Public Accounts on 31 October 2000. The report, which indicated that a total of £173m in respect tax, interest and penalties had been collected from the institutions, was examined by the Committee in December 2000.

In the course of my audit of Revenue collection in 2000, I carried out an examination of the overall DIRT look-back audit. This included an assessment of the reasonableness of the approach and methodology adopted by Revenue, the consistency with which the methodology was applied, an examination of the key documentation relating to the audits undertaken in four financial institutions, and discussions with the relevant Revenue staff. In the course of my examination the basis of any decision taken by the Revenue audit team in relation to any sampled account was not reviewed as the original papers examined by Revenue remained in the financial institutions.

The approach and methodology followed during the look-back audit is set out in detail in the Revenue report to the Committee of Public Accounts. In essence, listings of DIRT-exempt accounts together with deposit balances were obtained from each institution for dates in 1990, 1995, and 1998. These lists were accepted by Revenue without checking as the risks to the audit were considered to be minor, and the resources needed for a validation process would be excessive. Samples of these accounts were checked in detail by Revenue with a heavy weighting towards high value accounts. Where the Revenue audit of the financial institution found sufficient indicators of Irish residency in respect of DIRT-exempt accounts within the sample such accounts were deemed to be bogus unless the financial institution could provide satisfactory evidence to the contrary. The results of the sample were then applied to the total of the DIRT-exempt listing at each key date, and an overall liability established which also included interest and penalties.

As the result of my examination I am satisfied that the approach and methodology employed by Revenue were reasonable given the circumstances and timescale in which they had to operate. The methodology was consistently applied across the audits except where it was impractical to do so.

Offshore Investments via National Irish Bank

The investigation into 429 individuals who invested in an offshore investment scheme operated by National Irish Bank is continuing. By 31 May 2001, settlements were reached in 281 cases totalling £17,067,477 including interest of £5,960,909 and penalties of £3,432,551. Of these cases, 79 were settled with no liability. In addition, payments on account totalling £7,258,828 have been received in respect of other unresolved cases. 12 cases have been referred for criminal investigation with a view to prosecution through the courts.

Ansbacher (Cayman) Limited

A special project team was established to examine the tax affairs of the 120 individuals named in the Report of the Authorised Officer appointed by the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment to examine the books and documents of Ansbacher (Cayman) Limited held in Guinness and Mahon Bank. Offshore activity by persons other than those named in the report has also come to light during this on-going investigation.

Revenue have been availing of their powers under the Taxes Consolidation Act, 1997 to require persons, third parties and financial institutions to provide relevant records and information. Such records and information are sought by means of formal requests as well as the issue of notices under the Act. In addition, to date, four successful applications have been made to the High Court under the Act requiring third parties and financial institutions to provide records and information relevant to a person's tax liability. Under the Act, Revenue have applied to the Appeal Commissioners for their consent to issue a notice to a financial institution to provide records and information relevant to a person's tax liability.

Payments on account totalling £4.64m have been received in 24 cases directly related to the Authorised Officer's report. A further £3.14m has been received as payments on account in respect of 15 other cases that have all the characteristics of the original Ansbacher list. Payments on account totalling £0.59m have been received from six other cases. Two cases have been settled, one for £0.2m and the other for no liability.

Pick-Me-Up Schemes

Pick-Me-Up Schemes involved expenses for goods or services incurred by a political party being invoiced by the supplier to another trader who paid the supplier as a means of supporting the party. Such payments were not deductible for tax purposes, the VAT was not reclaimable and the invoices issued were not in accordance with legal requirements. The investigation has found that while some traders treated these payments correctly for tax purposes quite a large number did not. Where the tax involved was small, Revenue decided to settle the case on the basis of payment of the tax underpaid plus statutory interest and a penalty based on the Code of Practice for Revenue Auditors. Settlements have been reached in 34 of these 'smaller' cases totalling £129,944 (including £41,015 in interest and £29,996 in penalties). Payments on account totalling in excess of £350,000 have been received in 16 'larger' cases. Investigations are on-going in these and 20 other 'large' cases.

Tribunals

Matters disclosed at the Moriarty and Flood Tribunals which suggest that tax evasion may have occurred are being investigated as they come to notice.

Mr. Glavey

I will introduce paragraphs 9 to 14, inclusive, first. Following discussion, I propose to introduce paragraphs 15 and 16 which examine in some detail the operation of customs controls over third country imports and the administration of relevant contracts tax, respectively.

Paragraph 9 sets out the basis for the Comptroller and Auditor General's audit of revenue receipts and summarises the tax yield for 2000 under the various tax headings. Paragraph 10 shows the amounts of taxes written off as uncollectable in 2000. The figures are analysed both by tax heads and the grounds of write off. Each year, a sample of these write-offs is examined to check that proper procedures were followed. This was the case in 2000. The committee will see that the amount written off has fallen slightly from £88 million in 1999 to £82 million in 2000.

Paragraph 11 gives the make-up of tax arrears at the end of May 2001, together with the Revenue Commissioners' estimate of the amount of these arrears that is likely to be collected. The amount of tax outstanding is £1.176 billion, compared to £1.055 billion in 1999. While this is an increase of £121 million, it should be noted that the Office of the Revenue Commissioners now expects to collect a higher percentage of these arrears - 63%, as against its expectation of collecting 53% as reported last year.

Paragraph 12 reviews the audit programme of the Office of the Revenue Commissioners for 2000. Such a programme is essential to ensuring the overall validity of returns made in the self-assessment system. It should be noted that the total number of audits completed by the Revenue Commissioners in 2000 dropped by 1,000 from approximately 17,400 to approximately 16,300. This decline is attributed mainly to the involvement of 67 Revenue auditors in the DIRT audits.

Some 2,270 comprehensive audits were undertaken by the Revenue Commissioners in 2000. The programme in 2000 included 437 audits, which were selected on a random basis. It is noteworthy that 95 of these, or one in five, resulted in additional tax liabilities being assessed. This underlies the continuing necessity for, and importance of, random audits as a means of checking the effectiveness of the self-assessment system as a whole.

Paragraph 13 summarises the Revenue Commissioners' prosecution activities in 2000 under the headings "Serious Tax Evasion" and "Prosecution of Non-Filers". Three convictions for serious tax evasion were secured during 2000 and, from the 37 cases on hand in that category at the end of 2000, a further four convictions have been secured to date in 2001. Slightly more than 1,000 cases were prosecuted successfully during 2000 for failure to submit tax returns.

Paragraph 14 deals with special investigations and the ongoing DIRT investigation in particular. Some £173 million was collected from the financial institutions on foot of the Revenue Commissioners' look-back audit. As part of the Comptroller and Auditor General's audit of revenue collection in 2000, the DIRT look-back audit was examined to test the reasonableness of the approach and methodology adopted by the Office of the Revenue Commissioners. Our examination concluded that the approach of the Office of the Revenue Commissioners was reasonable. Since then, of course, the office has been attending to the question of underlying tax in respect of bogus non-resident accounts.

My understanding is that the scheme of the Office of the Revenue Commissioners for the voluntary disclosure of liability in respect of underlying tax has yielded in the order of £176 million. This, no doubt, is a matter on which the Accounting Officer will wish to elaborate.

I thank you for your opening statement. I believe Mr. Quigley would like to elaborate on the matter before we ask questions. Is it okay to publish the documents pertaining to what we are discussing?

Mr. Quigley

Yes. I thank the Chairman and the members of the committee for the opportunity to make some opening comments. I apologise for the fact that the Chairman did not receive the opening statement until this morning somewhat later than procedure would normally require. I was anxious to include material which was as up to date as possible in respect of the underlying tax.

First, I will comment briefly on the paragraphs dealt with by Mr. Glavey, and second, with the Chairman's permission, I will make some comments on the DIRT underlying tax project.

Paragraph 9 of the report shows net receipts for 2000 at £21.4 billion, an increase of almost £3 billion or 16% over 1999. When one considers that the 1999 receipts were, in turn, more than £2.5 billion or 16% up on the 1998 figures, one can begin to gauge the scale of the increase in activity in my Office over the last number of years. Collection continues at high levels in 2001, although with much less buoyancy in light of the changed economic circumstances.

Paragraphs 10 and 11, as Mr. Glavey has indicated, deal with write-off and outstanding taxes. The amount written off in 2000, £82 million, is slightly down on the 1999 figure because our revised write off policy for dealing with uncollectable amounts and unfounded liabilities - including pent-up arrears in liquidation cases - had largely worked its way through the outstanding debt. Further write-off will be needed on an ongoing basis to keep our debt figures realistic. While the outstanding debt increased somewhat in nominal terms, by £121 million as Mr. Glavey mentioned - which is not surprising given the growth of our business - it did not increase as a percentage, staying at 6%, of the total tax collected, which is the measure we use for performance and comparative purposes.

Despite this apparent standstill we have made progress in this area in that we now reckon we will collect 63% or £744 million of the outstanding debt, a significant increase from last year's estimate of 53% - £560 million. What is now happening is that a much bigger part of the debt is current debt, with correspondingly better chances of collection. We are intent on eliminating finally the old historical debt and have made important commitments in that regard in our new statement of strategy covering the period from 2001 to 2003. We envisage that, at the end of this period, there should be virtually no debt over six years old and that 73% of the debt will be less than three years old.

Paragraph 12 reports on audit activity. While down in numbers, activity was up significantly in terms of yield, taking account of the results from the DIRT look-back audits.

In respect of paragraph 13 and prosecutions, we feel that the Office of the Revenue Commissioners is making, and has made, real progress. In the five years to 1995, only one criminal prosecution for serious tax evasion was taken. Since 1996, 17 cases have been completed before the courts, with 16 convictions obtained. Custodial sentences were imposed in eight cases, three of which were suspended. One conviction is under appeal and three individuals are currently serving sentences. The statistics are even more interesting when narrowed down to a more recent timeframe. Since June 2000, convictions have been obtained in the six cases completed before the courts. Prison sentences were imposed in all cases and were suspended in two cases and are under appeal in a third.

In addition, there is, as acknowledged in the report and by Mr. Glavey in his introductory comments, a major campaign to prosecute persons who fail to file their tax returns, resulting in over 1,000 convictions each year. These cases tend, wrongly in my view, to be ignored by commentators when assessing our performance vis-à-vis that of other organisations. Customs and Excise also achieves a substantial number of prosecutions each year. As part of our organisation restructuring programme, we are in the process of establishing a specialised prosecution division which will further enhance progress in this area, bringing the work of taxes and customs prosecutions together into a single division.

A number of special investigations have been undertaken by Revenue and most of the names are very familiar by now. It is worth noting that these investigations, while still ongoing - they will be so for some time - have already yielded substantial sums to the Exchequer. The big three investigations, namely, DIRT, NIB and Ansbacher, are responsible for securing additional tax payments, including payments on account, as well as interest and penalties, of almost £400 million.

I mentioned earlier the yield from the DIRT look-back audits and I am sure the committee will recall that I made a full statement to it on 12 June 2001 regarding the Revenue approach to the underlying tax involved as set out in our statement of practice issued last May. I am pleased to confirm the very significant results announced provisionally last month of the voluntary disclosure scheme for holders of bogus non-resident accounts. Latest figures tell us 3,675 account holders made disclosures in respect of 8,380 accounts, a substantial increase on the provisional tally, and £179 million was paid under the scheme. When checking and validation is complete, these figures may be a little higher. When added to the £173 million collected under the programme of look-back audits of financial institutions, the latest receipts bring the total amount collected to date by Revenue in the DIRT investigation to £352 million. The results of the voluntary disclosures are still being analysed. It is clear that declarations come from throughout the country but with a heavy concentration in Cork, Kerry, Dublin, and Donegal. There are clear indications that many of the bigger cases have come forward.

We are obviously pleased with the success of stage one of the project - £179 million is a very significant amount of money for the Exchequer. This money was paid on foot of signed disclosures made to Revenue and represents the full tax due, together with up to 100% in interest and penalties. This is an important advance from the point of view of tax compliance. This result allows us focus our attention in stage two, which has begun, on a reduced target group of non-compliant taxpayers. We are using new statutory powers, given to us in 1999, to identify those people who held bogus non-resident accounts and who did not avail of the voluntary disclosure arrangements. In the week following the deadline for voluntary disclosure - 15 November - we lodged papers with the High Court seeking orders in respect of the largest financial institutions concerned requiring them to provide details of those likely to have held bogus non-resident accounts. These orders were granted yesterday. Further applications for orders will be made as we proceed.

Of course Revenue already has information on the identities of a substantial number of account holders, obtained in the course of the look-back audits of financial institutions in 1999 and 2000. These lists are being compared with the lists of people who have availed of the voluntary scheme which ended last month, to identify those who did not comply and for whom individual investigations can begin immediately. Bogus account holders who will be exposed as a result of the investigations now getting under way will not be able to avail of the 100% cap on interest and penalties. Their names will be published and suitable cases will be prioritised for investigation with a view to prosecution.

There is no doubt, even after the very significant inroads made with the stage one voluntary disclosure scheme, that Revenue is likely to be facing a long programme of investigations which will extend over several years. Revenue will be prioritising cases based on the size of the accounts. It is possible that a considerable number of the outstanding cases will have availed of the 1993 amnesty. We will review the position as we proceed and will report on progress in our annual reports. The quarterly publication lists of defaulters will include cases dealt with in stage two. Under the changed powers in section 1086 of the Taxes Consolidation Act, 1997, where a settlement occurs, we will be able to indicate if it is as a result of the bogus non-resident account investigation. We are determined to see this project through as efficiently and effectively as possible but there is a lot of work ahead.

There has been a significant increase in Revenue staff resources in the past year. As a result, about 850 staff will be engaged in the audit and investigation area. This is an increase of 160 staff in the past year. The position will of course be kept under review as stage two of the underlying tax investigation proceeds. If we need more resources we will ask for them. We will of course be continuing with normal audit work and with the other major investigations in which we are involved.

Bogus non-resident accounts have often been described as the poor man's Ansbacher. Going on the figures outlined by Mr. Quigley, the average amount in accounts was about £20,000. That goes some way to dispelling the notion of those being poor men's accounts. Do the Revenue Commissioners believe that the statement from the Institute of Taxation in Ireland sent to accountancy practices telling them they could be subject to a constitutional challenge had any impact in the overall level of people who contributed? Could it have lulled some people into a false sense of security?

Mr. Quigley

The answer to the second question is no. That statement, which was issued by the Institute of Taxation in Ireland in August, dealt with bona fide concerns of the Institute's members. It indicated in which circumstances actions should be taken and some of the potential pitfalls that might arise. We worked very closely with the Institute. We responded to all the questions it raised and gave it the benefit of very clear assurances and legal advice which we had obtained. The Attorney General confirmed that the action Revenue was taking was within its care and management powers. We provided those assurances and it went a considerable way to allay any concerns or problems. I must acknowledge that the Institute of Taxation worked very closely with Revenue at seminars around the country. My colleague, Mr. O'Dea, and a representative of the Institute held seminars around the country and responded to all the queries raised.

In September we had the benefit of a statement issued by the joint accountancy bodies. I was extremely grateful for that at the time. The bodies clearly advised their members that they should look at this very carefully and avail of the offer but there was certain inertia. In October we were concerned that we had collected only £10 million. While we had indications from both the Institute of Taxation and the other professional bodies that there was a lot of activity, we were worried that people would run out of time and felt the need to increase our advertising. The Institute of Taxation issued a weekly 'tax fax' factsheet in which they put out news and further clarifications by the Revenue Commissioners. The reality was that everyone who needed to know knew about the possibilities. At the end of the process they were in no doubt that something very serious was afoot and that the Revenue Commissioners were determined to follow through. It was inevitable that we would not get everyone in. There are some who will wait and deal with the Revenue Commissioners only when they have been identified through the powers we are now using with the orders granted by the High Court.

I am encouraged by the fact that there are clear indications that a substantial number of those who came in were significant account holders. This will be of help to us. On the basis of the analysis so far, something like 80% of the money has come in in respect of payments of £100,000 or more. Some 16 people made declarations for £1 million or more, 43 people made declarations for £500,000 to £1 million and 107 people made declarations for £250,000 to £500,000. Between £100,000 and £250,000 there were 261 declarations, between £50,000 and £100,000 there were 229 declarations and between £25,000 and £50,000 there were 319 declarations made. We have indications that a substantial number of the major account holders have come in. The average value is of the order of £50,000 with a number of payments in excess of ten times that average.

I am cautious about drawing analogies between bogus non-resident account holders and Ansbacher accounts. The Ansbacher investigation is the most complex I have come across in my time at the Revenue Commissioners. It is very demanding. We have added to the original list of 160 core names. We have over 600 entities in the form of companies, trusts and others associated with that core list of names and a substantial number of other cases which come in under our extended Ansbacher umbrella. From the research carried out there are clearly substantial amounts involved which we are investigating. The Comptroller and Auditor General's report shows that we have so far received something like £12 million in payments on account.

We are amassing voluminous information using our powers under the 1999 Finance Act. We are using advanced computer software to knit together accounting and financial data and determined that we will come to terms with that inquiry. This is being investigated separately by the High Court inspectors. Without prejudice to the rights of the High Court, the Revenue Commissioners hope that in due course we will gain access to the information in the High Court inspectors report. We are pushing ahead.

This is a very different investigation because it is offshore and there are very sophisticated arrangements with trusts and companies interposed. It is different from that of a bogus non-resident account, an investigation we are determined to pursue. I have no doubt that at a future meeting of the Committee of Public Accounts the Revenue Commissioners will be able to report substantial progress which we are determined to make no matter how long it takes.

We have done good work on bogus non-resident accounts and are not complacent. We are pleased that we have secured £179 million for the Exchequer to add to the £173 million secured following the DIRT investigation and look-back audits. We are not crowing about this result. We regard it as a significant advance. Our assessment in the statement of practice was that by doing it in the way we envisaged we could help break the back of this problem in which the figures show we have made a very significant dent. It may be that in the rest we will come up against amnesty declarations where there may not be a liability or huge amounts. We will also come up against account holders with very small amounts. We are reporting to the committee that we have made progress and geared up. With the granting of the High Court orders yesterday - the first in the series we are seeking - we are now very definitely into stage two of the process.

This is an impressive performance by the Revenue Commissioners and an improvement from the time we first met to discuss this subject and the question of tax evasion. We can see it clearly in the returns. In paragraph 7 of the report a figure of £400 million from a combination of just three areas is quantified. This is a significant development which shows that staff have learned much - long may it continue.

When we met representatives of the banks at a public meeting of this committee I asked one of them whether he agreed that they were breaking the law and he said he did. Individuals will be brought before the courts and prosecuted, fined and jailed for the non-payment of tax. Why are we not taking the persons responsible in the banks for the defrauding of millions of pounds from the State? Why should the ordinary person in the street have to go to jail while the man at the top in the bank responsible for bigger thievery gets away scot-free? Is it the intention of the Revenue Commissioners to name those responsible in the banks and financial institutions, bring them before the courts, prosecute them and put them in jail if found guilty?

Mr. Quigley

I thank Deputy Bell for his commendations to the Revenue Commissioners which I will pass on to all my colleagues involved in this work because they will be encouraged by his remarks. It has required a major effort by management and staff to work through these investigations. Not only in the most recent look-back audits, but also in the underlying tax areas staff worked extremely hard throughout the country to achieve a good result.

In relation to the financial institutions, the ground has been gone over in the course of the DIRT Inquiry and the session of the inquiry where we reported on the look-back audits of the institutions. In making the report on the collection of the £173 million I was asked whether the Revenue Commissioners envisaged prosecutions or had gone for the money. I think I answered very clearly. We had been asked in the first report on the DIRT Inquiry to undertake the look-back audits and collect the amount of tax, interest and penalties outstanding to the Exchequer. That was our priority. I indicated that in the normal course one goes one route or the other. One goes for prosecution or for an audit to achieve a settlement. My sense of the hearings of the Committee of Public Accounts inquiry, at the time and subsequently, was that we should undertake the look-back audits expeditiously and collect the money. That is what we did. It would have been different if we had gone for prosecution - there would not have been an expeditious look-back audit to collect £173 million for the Exchequer.

This is a dilemma which arises in any audit or investigation - that one must go for one thing or the other. I have to say to Deputy Bell, in the interests of balance, that we received the utmost co-operation from the financial institutions. During the second part of our campaign dealing with the underlying tax we also enlisted, sought and obtained, the co-operation of all the financial institutions in bringing the matter to the attention of those now involved. The figure of £173 million was the liability of the financial institutions. It was emphasised at all times in the course of the DIRT Inquiry that those who made the deposits were taxpayers evading tax in the underlying deposit concealed from Revenue. In some cases it may have been out of taxed income while in others it may have been cleared under the amnesty, but, prima facie, it was the liability of the person involved rather than the financial institutions.

We obtained tremendous co-operation. It might not have been conceivable a few years back for the financial institutions to display Revenue posters which advertised the bogus non-resident account problem and the deadline of 15 November with which they co-operated fully. Financial institutions also co-operated with Revenue in issuing a public notice during the course of the campaign.

The Chairman asked me earlier about the effects of various measures in encouraging people to take up the offer. The financial institutions placed an advertisement in the newspapers stating that Revenue did have powers and that if the High Court granted orders to Revenue, the banks would have no alternative, but to supply the information. That was a very significant event in the campaigns we have undertaken since May 2001 because people sat up and realised that Revenue did have new powers, could get the information and would identify people.

Subsequently, we obtained the first in our series of orders and will be going back to the High Court. I must respect the jurisdiction of the High Court and not go into too much detail, with the committee's agreement, because it is very important to Revenue that we secure all the information we need to identify the cases in question. However, it is quite clear from what I have said that the financial institutions have also co-operated in the seeking and obtaining of these orders.

To answer Deputy Bell's question directly, we have been very focused in these investigations. Revenue must be very focused for the future. We have to focus on the evasion which has been exposed and deal with it. We then have to account for our performance to this committee. Our focus now is very clearly on those who had undeclared income in the accounts in question. That is our primary focus and what we will be dealing with over the next period.

In relation to prosecutions, we have indicated in the course of the campaign that where evidence is available - we cannot prosecute every case and I am not going to tell the committee that we are doing so - we will be putting in a significant effort to identify cases, firstly, where people concealed income from Revenue in the first instance and, secondly, where they have now declined to take up a very attractive offer in the voluntary disclosure regime. We will be identifying a number of these cases and putting them forward for investigation with a view to prosecution. That is our focus.

We have previously discussed the employment of full-time legal personnel for the purposes of prosecution. Could you give us an explanation for this? Is there any particular reason counties Cork, Kerry, Dublin and Donegal should be the biggest villains in the piece? I say this with no disrespect to any of my colleagues.

Does Mr. Quigley have a table?

Mr. Quigley

Yes, I have two tables, if the committee would like to have them, one showing the geographical distribution and other showing the split by value.

Could you place it over the BMW region?

Mr. Quigley

I am happy to circulate them, with the agreement of the Chairman, for the information of the committee. I would like to try to be objective about this - we are dealing with what we have found which I do not think is out of line with what was discussed and emerged in the course of the hearings, but I do not want to be subjective. We are dealing with what has come up in the declarations. The Deputies will see the full list of the geographical distribution.

This table answers the question in detail. You obviously anticipated what was asked.

Mr. Quigley

I knew the committee would want more information. I am in the situation where our staff did a huge job and displayed tremendous professionalism in dealing with the problem. As there was then a huge interest in it, rather than allowing speculation we came out with provisional results. I was conscious that the Committee of Public Accounts would ask for the most up-to-date information I had. That is the reason these two tables were prepared.

At a previous meeting I asked and you agreed that the Office of the Revenue Commissioners publicise the names, addresses and business transactions of those who defaulted. I am glad to see that it has done so. It has been widely welcomed by the general public that people cannot hide and defraud the State and that they be publicly notified.

Mr. Quigley

Those with bogus non-resident accounts were guaranteed under our statement of practice that if they came forward with a voluntary disclosure, their names would not be published. For stage two that does not arise. Any of the cases we identify and with whom we make settlements, or who are prosecuted, will be clearly publicly identified. We are actively publishing in the quarterly list, as a result of our audit investigations, the names of defaulters. In addition, we are using this facility to state whether it is an NIB investigation, an Ansbacher investigation, a look-back audit or a bogus non-resident account investigation. We will be giving out as much information as possible.

I would like to respond to the other question which Deputy Bell asked me about the legal aspect of prosecution. The way we are organised at present is that we have our own very professional staff with special training who have produced very good results for us in terms of criminal prosecutions in recent years. Since 1997 there have been 17 cases, in 16 of which we have secured convictions. There is a very high degree of professionalism in Revenue. The number of prosecutions for serious tax evasion is not out of line with the number of criminal prosecution cases being taken by the Inland Revenue in the United Kingdom, allowing for the difference in population. We have worked this up and these are indictable prosecutions. These cases are very difficult to prove. They are not summary cases like social welfare prosecutions or our prosecutions for failing to file tax returns, of which there are over 1,000 a year.

Working with our own staff on the tax side, we have the Revenue Solicitor's office. In addition, we obtained the advice of a senior officer from the DPP. I mentioned in my statement that in the five years to 1995 there was only one criminal prosecution for tax evasion. I will not comment on that. A senior officer from the DPP advised us. There is also another officer, made available by the DPP, to advise the teams as the investigations take place, without getting into the DPP decision mode. As the committee will appreciate, there must be a separation between the investigator and the decider. The decision to prosecute is entirely one for the DPP who published guidelines recently on how that process should be handled and on the differential roles of the investigator and prosecutor.

The Revenue Solicitor's office assists in the preparation of the Book of Evidence and in managing the case into the courts. We have a good structure. We have also employed five professional accountants in recent years who are available for investigations and to assist investigations. We will look again at overall staffing, resources and the legal and other expertise we may need for our new Prosecutions Division, which we hope to have up and running early in the new year. We are determined to resource that division in a way which will allow us to build on our initial results.

While there is comment from time to time about Revenue and the small number of prosecutions, if one takes it in the round we have made good progress. Our people are increasingly having success in the courts. It cannot be said anymore that no one has gone to jail in Ireland for tax evasion. People are going to jail. We have made a commitment that significant priority will be given in stage two of the bogus non-resident accounts to take forward cases where evidence is available. I will not put a number on it or mislead the committee, but I have clearly indicated that it cannot be every case. We will prioritise cases from that inquiry which will be suitable for criminal prosecutions.

I thank Mr. Quigley for his statement which answers many questions. As regards repayments of VAT and income tax of £688 million, if a person pays too much tax, what is the policy on paying interest on it? Is each case examined on an individual basis?

Mr. Quigley

No. We have an asymmetrical arrangement in the law. The law has given us a regime under which, in the interests of compliant taxpayers and the Exchequer, Revenue is allowed to charge interest. It is a penalty rate of interest, which is now down to 1% a month, but it is still relatively high for people who are late paying tax or who default on the payments. The law only allows specifically for payment of interest on repayments by Revenue in narrow situations which arise out of the self-employed preliminary tax payments where there may be appeals. There is provision for repayment with interest at a much lower rate than the rate we charge for default or late payments. We do not have a general power to pay interest and we have not paid interest on that basis. This issue was considered from time to time by commissions on taxation and other bodies. It is right there should be an edge for the compliant taxpayer in terms of charging interest. We are talking about someone who is not paying or is late paying tax and the shop beside his or her shop is paying tax. As regards whether we should pay interest, the feeling was that the best thing Revenue could do was to make repayments quickly where they arise.

As regards VAT, I know from talking to business people and to small firms throughout the country at gatherings of the Small Firms Association and ISME that it is critical to get VAT back quickly. We are paying substantial amounts back in VAT. We make a customer service commitment that we will turn around those repayments rapidly. We make approximately 85% of the repayments within ten working days. We pay that money directly into bank accounts. With our Revenue on-line service we will do better in the future. We do not have a general power, remit or policy of paying interest on either income tax or VAT, but we have a policy of trying to speed up the repayments.

The Deputy will be aware that this issue was raised by the Ombudsman a number of times in recent years when he examined cases. We referred to the fact that we did not have the statutory power. The Deputy will also be aware that Deputy Roche, who is a member of the Oireachtas committee which deals with the strategic management initiative, produced a report on customer services in Revenue in recent weeks. We were all encouraged because it was a commendatory report which recognised what Revenue has done to improve the service to the PAYE people, the self-employed and business. However, it raised this interest issue and it said it should be examined. In keeping with the recommendations of all Oireachtas committees, we will have to examine it. We do not have a general power or a policy of paying interest on overpayments.

As regards write-offs, the figure for cases which are uneconomic to pursue has increased from 519 in 1999 to 1,196 in 2000. Cases on compassionate grounds have also increased. Is there any reason the cases which are uneconomic to pursue increased substantially in a period of growth?

Mr. Quigley

We are dealing to a significant extent with old cases. As we get deeper into the mire, we find that amnesties have passed by these cases. Perhaps they are no longer trading. We have sent out sheriffs and solicitors, but there may not be anything there. We have guidelines for all our staff on write-offs. However, we must assess the opportunity cost of pursuing these cases further. We are getting more into the case working mode. We have more staff working on the cases to bring together the separate disparate pieces of the tax and then make a recommendation. That reflects the fact that there is a lot of material which has defied all efforts to collect and that one has to make a tough decision. Our overall amount is down. If one goes back a few years and looks at the figures for 1997, we were up to almost £300 million in terms of write-offs. We agreed guidelines. As Accounting Officer, I, not the Comptroller and Auditor General, must take responsibility for write-offs. We agreed a broad approach with the Comptroller and Auditor General and we are being tougher now. We want to be viewed as a business-like organisation and a commercially sound operation. We are getting rid of all the distraction with unreal figures. We have collected hundreds of millions of pounds over that period. Some 16% of the debt is still pre-1991. We are making a commitment to have no debt longer than six years on Revenue's books when we reach the end of our strategy. The total debt was £3.5 billion in 1988, representing 57% of the annual tax collection at that time, and it is now down to £1.176 billion, representing 6%of the annual taxes that we use in the measure-ment.

We, therefore, have transformed the figure through collection where we could. We also made hard nosed write-offs where the companies had gone out of business. If through creditors' meetings or liquidation arrangements we get back some of the money, we take it. We are now down to a figure which has some element of dross in it - over estimated or ceased trading cases which must be eliminated and that is why we are not finished the write-off - but is closer to a figure where the committee will be able to ask very hard questions as to why we are not collecting nearly all of it. More than 90% of the debt is collectible in more recent years. When we get down to that figure, we have a good record of collecting 90% of debt three years old. Going back further is the problem and we will not collect all of that.

The increase in the amount we expect to collect, even though the total debt has gone up, shows that we are more into current debt. That is a good position for Revenue which should be accountable and be happy to account for collection on debt which is real, not over estimated, not the subject of any return or relating to entities that no longer exist. Revenue should be happy to explain why it is not collecting that real debt. If we do not have the money, it should be able to say it is at enforcement, with the solicitor or the sheriff, and to respond to this committee's questions on that basis.

What have random audits thrown up? Have they led to a percentage rise or to comprehensive audits?

Mr. Quigley

We are trying to increase the number of random audits. They make up 2% of audits and we are trying to achieve a figureof 6%. We find that the bulk of random audits do not produce any yield which is encouraging from the point of view of compliance. One would not expect a significant yield. I should explain the terms "random" and "targeted". The latter is where the professional auditors screen the returns, bringing together the information from third party returns on payments and other information, and conclude that something does not add up, which means an audit is required and that case is targeted. Those cases generally yield money.

About 80% of the random audits do not yield any result. The average yield, including the nil cases, from random audits is just over £1,000. The average yield excluding nils is £5,000. In targeted audits, we are talking about £24,000 as the average yield. We should be looking at tax administration in a piece. We talked earlier about customer service and I believe we must endeavour to get 90% of people doing the right thing by making it easy to comply.

If we do not get the return or the payment, we are into compliance activity. Interest is charged and cases which do not file are prosecuted. For deeper audit, we are into tax evasion and cases where the money is not declared or is kept off the books in some way. Our focus is to get the maximum compliance through voluntary means or compliance activity and then having a good resource going to audit what is there or which might not be on the books in the shadow economy. We must also identify the cases that are not registered. There are two types of evasion. One is through not being registered and attempting to run a business without any revenue interest, and the other is the under-declaration of the full amount by those who are registered.

The Comptroller andAuditor General's team commented that in the National Irish Bank and the Ansbacher, some cases were settled with no liability. Every-one acted on the assumption that anyone receiving benefits from such an account did notdeclare it. Were such accounts declared in those cases?

Mr. Quigley

Approximately £25 million has been collected from the National Irish Bank investigation, comprising payments on account and settlements affecting just less than 300 of the original 429 cases plus a small number of cases notified later. The bulk of the money was in respect of the capital sums representing undisclosed income. There were cases where the people made investments out of declared, taxed or tax-free income. We will also meet those cases in the bogus non-resident accounts. Some people have not come forward because it was taxed income that went into the account or they dealt with the problem in the 1993 amnesty. That is why some cases do not yield much. The significant yield comes from cases where the investment involved undeclared income.

If a person with a bogus non-resident account participated in the amnesty but retained such an account, would the amnesty be null and void?

Mr. Quigley

I discussed this in detail with the committee in June. It was a difficult issue but our statement of practice covers these cases. We had three categories. People who opted for the 1993 amnesty and covered the bogus accounts were all right. Some of them have come forward to identify themselves as amnesty cases and we will find others. These people can produce an amnesty certificate and there will be no problem. In the second category, a person who opted for the 1993 amnesty and, for one reason or another, did not make a full disclosure automatically, loses the benefits of the amnesty. The law allows a credit for the tax they paid to the chief special collector. Under the voluntary disclosure and the future programme, we will compute the full tax as if the amnesty did not arise.

The final category was the cases that did not avail of the 1993 amnesty.

Those cases, if they were well advised, should be under the voluntary disclosure. Those that are not, having passed up an opportunity to regularise their tax affairs by paying 15% of the undisclosed income or gains in 1993 and if they did not avail of a 100% cap on interest and penalties, are now facing a very tough regime where, as the years go back, the interest will clock up remorselessly and where the total of interest and penalties could be 300% or 400% of the underlying tax as against the 100% under voluntary disclosure. That is what Revenue is seeking in stage two. That is what we said we would do and that is what we intend to do. We will identify those cases and we will compute the appropriate tax, interest and penalty without any cap as operated up to 15 November. It is a tough regime.

In the follow up process, what happens in the event that a person has died in the meantime? For example, what happens if a person has not paid DIRT and a spouse did not know about such a bogus account? Is that written off as a loss?

Mr. Quigley

No. In principle we would be entitled to proceed against the estate and that would be our starting point. I will not suggest that there are never difficult situations or situations where there is an inability to pay, but our starting point is clear.

Not everyone welcomed the chairman's statement of practice in May. This committee accepted that, in all the circumstances, it was reasonable and balanced even though the number of accounts exposed is a proportion, smaller perhaps than one might have thought, of the total. Nonetheless, it was worthwhile. A better appreciation of the task confronting Revenue probably would have created a wider degree of acceptance for it. Weariness with amnesties is probably a factor in the criticism. Mr. Quigley's commitment in terms of pursuing those who did not come forward is important. Otherwise, there would be a manifest unfairness in it.

Deputy Ahern raised a point earlier which raises a question. Let us suppose that I availed of the 1993 amnesty but I had an undeclared or under-declared DIRT account. If Revenue now comes knocking on my door and I produce my amnesty certificate, is that enough? Surely unless Revenue has some basis it cannot look beyond that. Is that right?

Mr. Quigley

That is right. I am grateful for what the Deputy said in light of the criticism and concern regarding the statement of practice. I acknowledge that the final report of the Committee of Public Accounts was realistic and it recommended that Revenue should seek to collect the underlying tax in a pragmatic and effective manner. That was something we took into account in making our decision. It was a Revenue decision for which I accept responsibility as Accounting Officer.

On the amnesty analysis, if the case concerned a person who availed of the amnesty but did not make a full disclosure, then he or she is not entitled to the benefits of the amnesty. That has to be proved. What we are into now is different from the look-back audits or the easy regime of the voluntary disclosure. We are now into individualised investigations. We are first trying to identify those who had bogus non-resident accounts. We are honouring the commitment we made by setting about that task without delay. We were working on it before 15 November and were in a position to lodge documents with the High Court immediately after that date. We secured the first orders from the High Court yesterday. Revenue has not caused any delay and we are committed to following through on this as best we can. It is a difficult job and will be there for some time.

We may come across a case where an amnesty certificate is produced and Revenue, as a result of its individualised investigation, may have reason to believe that it is not a full disclosure. There is a mechanism in section 5 of the Waiver Act, 1993, that allows Revenue to seek authority from the Appeal Commissioners. We have used that power already in a number of investigations and that possibility is open to us here. The legal position is clear. A person who does not make a full disclosure automatically forfeits the entitlement to the benefit of the amnesty. We are now into individualised investigations where we will come across all types of cases and we will deal with all of them. I will not play down the difficulties, but we knew we would face them. We will not do it all painlessly or immediately, but the job has to be done.

As a result of the statement of practice approach we have collected £179 million and we have probably brought in a significant number of the sizeable cases. We are learning as we go along. When the financial institutions comply with the High Court orders we will have the lists. That will be done over time. We will compare those lists to the lists we are preparing of those who have made disclosures and we will identify cases for individualised investigation. That is the path on which we are set.

In terms of the distribution by value, is that the amount in the account or is it the amount to Revenue?

Mr. Quigley

That is the amount paid to Revenue.

You commented on Revenue's improved relations with the banking institutions. The man in the street would like an answer to this question. Can Revenue, under the powers now available to it, write to the chief executive of the national associated Bank of Ireland and ask it to prepare a list of the number of suspected bogus non-resident accounts in the institution?

Mr. Quigley

"No" is the short answer to the question, but a Revenue Commissioner can consent to an order for information on a specific named account in circumstances where we have reasonable grounds to believe we will get information relevant to a person's liability. This is significant because we would not have been able to do any of this previously. People used say that Revenue threatened but it had not delivered. It was criticised because it had not changed over the years. What changed this was the Finance Act, 1999. Section 908 of that allows us go to the High Court to secure the orders, even in respect of an unknown category of taxpayers, and that is highly significant.

A Revenue Commissioner can consent to an order to obtain information on a specific named account in certain circumstances. Section 908 gives us the power we are using here and that is what has changed. It enables us to undertake the project. If we could not identify then we could not have a stage one or a stage two. There is an absolute difference and we are using that power.

As regards the financial institutions I wish to say by way of elaboration that since the DIRT Inquiry we have put in place very comprehensive printed guidelines for all financial institutions. We have to learn from our experience of that inquiry. The guidelines tell them what is expected of them by the Revenue Commissioners in relation to the administration of DIRT tax. We are also doing the same in the area of fund management taxation.

Significantly, the Finance Act, 1999 gave us the power to do on-site audits of financial institutions. The DIRT Inquiry highlighted the fact that Revenue could not get inside the door of a financial institution except in relation to a PAYE matter or where VAT might arise. Financial transactions are, by and large, exempt from VAT. We now have the right to do an on-site audit of the corporation tax affairs of a financial institution. We are intent on putting in place a programme of normal audit activity for financial institutions - apart altogether from the ongoing audit of DIRT - like we do for all the other businesses in this country and which are regarded as par for the course. This is the guarantee to the Exchequer and to compliant taxpayers that Revenue is looking at things. The situation has changed but the most significant change is the additional powers we were given in 1999.

These are very substantial reforms.

Before you leave that point I wish to ask one specific question. Do you not already have the power under the Taxes Consolidation Act where the banks and other agencies are duty bound to inform the Revenue Commissioners if offshore resident accounts are taken out?

Mr. Quigley

There is a provision, introduced in 1992, on the Single Market whereby the opening of an account abroad is to be the subject of a notification to Revenue by the individual themselves on their tax return but also by the intermediaries. We receive some 600 notifications each year of accounts that are opened abroad. It has not been a significant element in dealing with the offshore problem because by and large those are cases where there is a good reason and the income is declared. We have used a different section, section 908, which I have just been talking about in relation to Deputy Rabbitte's question, when going to financial institutions in relation to Ansbacher. We have secured voluminous documentation using those powers. It is a different power from that of an intermediary notifying Revenue of a single account holder. This is a power to look at and get the books, documents and records in the financial institution. It is a very significant power for Revenue, though, of course, it only puts us on a par with tax administrations abroad. As a result of the DIRT Inquiry and the other disclosures of tax evasion, Revenue has got very significant powers which it now must use and be seen to be using. We have been given additional staffing resources and are in a much better position. The bogus non-resident accounts issue is still a huge problem. It is very demanding but we must accept that because of the Committee of Public Accounts we are in a much stronger position to make inroads in these areas.

Of the 3,675 account holders, have you a record of what proportion of them would have declared the original income exposed to tax in the first place as distinct from those who took it straight out of the till and straight into the account?

Mr. Quigley

We have a small number of nil declarations. The bulk of what we received is income which was not declared. There are a few amnesty cases. We are still doing the analysis on this. I have given you the analysis which I have so far. The table I gave you shows something like 599 nil declarations. The bulk of them are undeclared income.

In terms of the Ansbacher complexity, do I understand from what you are saying that no actual yield has yet been secured from any Ansbacher holder and is there any indication of when it might begin to bear fruit?

Mr. Quigley

We have secured just over £12 million to date in the Ansbacher investigation. This includes a very small number of cases which have been settled and are mentioned in the report of the Comptroller and Auditor General. He refers to two cases. There are a number of cases where people have made a payment on account in order to stop the interest clock running. I am convinced there are substantial amounts to be obtained in the Ansbacher investigation. I cannot put a timeframe on it because it is a very demanding investigation. We are sorry that co-operation in some instances was not more forthcoming or more rapid. We have expert investigators on this case who are amassing information and using advanced computer software to knit it together, irrespective of where the information comes from. There can be 150,000 documents from financial institutions. As a result our own and other ongoing work, including the work of the High Court inspectors which I hope will become available to Revenue, I am convinced we will be successful in this investigation.

In terms of the manifestly improved procedures and performance and enhanced efficacy of the collection system, and the manner in which employment is holding up, can you give the committee any idea as to why the Minister for Finance's sack is empty? Where did it all go to? The national household figures last month showed a very good performance which implies people in the main who have lost their jobs have got jobs. How is it that the Revenue figures for taxes are down so much?

Mr. Quigley

I hesitate, Deputy, despite your very incisive question to tread into the budgetary area on the eve of the Budget Statement. I do not intend to tread into that area. From the point of view of Revenue as a collector of taxes, there is a very significant downturn in tax collection this year. That has been recognised by the Department of Finance in the quarterly press briefings.

In terms of income tax, Mr. Quigley, why is that the case when the number of workers at work is significantly up on last year?

Mr. Quigley

There could be a number of factors at work there. It is certainly quite clear that from earlier in the year additional work - overtime, bonus payments - was reducing and there was short-week working. I think significant amounts of tax were lost in that way. The international impact of what has happened in the United States and so on may not have been fully felt on employment, but in terms of earnings, overtime, bonus payments, etc. certainly all the indications are there has been a significant change. The anecdotal evidence suggests it has been evident since early in the year.

There was also the complication of foot and mouth disease, which impacted on both VAT and excise. The retail sales figures show a reduction. There have been 65,000 fewer new car registrations. There has been a very significant impact in terms of the change in the economy as compared with the situation at budget time, which has been accentuated since September, but which was there already. The import and export figures show that. There has been a change in VAT and excise returns since the foot and mouth outbreak which has been accentuated because of the downturn in economic activity. For nine years in a row we were overshooting the best forecast that could be made by more than £1 billion. If it is possible to go up by £1 billion or £1.5 billion, it is possible to come down by the same amount when economic conditions change.

We have been monitoring compliance and the timeliness of payments very carefully. We, in Revenue, are satisfied that compliance has held up well. However, as cash flow begins to bite, we may have problems in ensuring timeliness. There has been a significant change in economic conditions, not only on the income tax side, but also on the VAT, excise duty and even capital gains tax side. The figures already published by the Department of Finance in relation to the prospective outturn for 2001 clearly show it goes across the different taxes.

I join previous speakers in welcoming this very positive report which was greatly needed. We all agree that in the late 1980s and throughout the 1990s there was a perception that only PAYE workers were paying tax. That was inaccurate and unfair to the self-employed and others in business who were paying. We have now found at least 3,675 people who were not paying and could afford to do so.

It is important to restore the public's confidence in Revenue. On occasions when we challenged it we were more or less told that everything was satisfactory and that we had to drive fairly hard to get the right results. Do you have any evidence of a crossover among the 160 core Ansbacher names and this set of 3,675 people?

Mr. Quigley

No. Those already under investigation in the Ansbacher or other inquiries or tribunal cases were specifically excluded from entitlement to avail of the disclosure scheme for bogus non-resident account holders under which a holder of a bogus non-resident account could clear all of his or her tax liabilities, including any other unsettled liabilities. However, we had specific exclusions, among which would have been the Ansbacher case.

The figure of 160 will be added to the total of 3,675. You will also find others.

Mr. Quigley

We have the core number of cases mentioned by the Deputy. We also have 600 other related entities, including trusts, companies and various offshore entities. That is what our Ansbacher team is looking at and I would be reasonably confident we will get to grips with it. That is what we are determined to do. Substantial sums of money will have to be paid. Those who may not be co-operating fully with Revenue at this stage will have to pay more as a result, if they hold out until the last. They will have to pay more in interest and penalties as a result of non co-operation, but we are not despondent. We are getting information and have good investigators working on it, who are doing their job.

A question was asked about sanctions against the financial institutions. You said the various organisations of taxation practitioners co-operated with you and were very helpful. However, there is a legal responsibility that goes with accounting, doing audits, etc. There must have been co-operation by individuals in the business in relation to these accounts. Have any sanctions been imposed because of incorrect signing or declaring of accounts?

Mr. Quigley

Not by Revenue. That was a specific topic raised by the sub-committee in the course of the DIRT Inquiry. However, the focus has been on doing what the Committee of Public Accounts asked us to do, that is, to carry out look-back audits and get the money. That is what we have done. In the second phase the focus is on those who did not make a disclosure to us of concealed income in these accounts. Having collected DIRT we are now on to unpaid income tax and VAT. That is the way we are focused. We have not gone back to those issues dealt with in the course of the DIRT Inquiry.

We have to restore public confidence in the whole system, not just Revenue, but also the banks and other financial institutions. Will the fact that people, who facilitated fraud through non-declaration and other means, are still practising not lead to a lack of confidence? I am concerned about compliant taxpayers who want to carry on their businesses competing with non-compliant taxpayers next door. If sanctions are not imposed against those who facilitated this practice, will this not cause problems?

Mr. Quigley

The restoration of confidence is absolutely necessary. We, in Revenue, have recognised this in our approach. There have been very significant changes as a result of the DIRT Inquiry. We now have new guidelines for the financial institutions to ensure everything is laid out clearly as to what is expected. We have issued these guidelines in a very comprehensive way. The audit programme is a further guarantee to compliant taxpayers that Revenue is dealing with these issues in the financial institutions. The Tánaiste has dealt with the other recommendations about new arrangements for auditing, etc. The necessary legislation, which does not come within my area, is being progressed.

Compliant taxpayers looking at what has happened will see, first, that Revenue has collected the maximum amount of money it could using its new powers. They will also see that it has clearly laid out its stall for the future in terms of guidelines and use of its powers to conduct audits in financial institutions and across the board. They will further see significant changes that run right through the areas of accountability, not only for Revenue, but also for the professional bodies and the role of the Oireachtas. All this provides a substantial measure of comfort for compliant taxpayers that something has changed.

I still think there will be a need to examine the methods used to facilitate the people concerned, but it may not be your problem directly. In pointing out the 8,500 accounts you state there are clear indications that many of the bigger cases have now come forward. What are the indicators? Could there be hidden accounts of twice that size?

Mr. Quigley

First, Deputy Dennehy, we were banking - excuse the pun - on the fact that in the course of the look-back audits, our sampling was heavily focused on the bigger accounts. Those people would have been notified already by the financial institutions, in accordance with the procedures, that we were looking at the accounts. We always expected that they would come forward when they knew Revenue was focusing on them. Our analysis suggests that those cases involving payments above £100,000 account for about £140 million. That is almost 80% of the total amount paid to Revenue in the voluntary disclosures scheme. That suggests to me that the bigger cases are included in that figure, though not necessarily all of them. We will have to check that when we get the full information via the High Court orders which were issued for the disclosure of those names. We know some of the names from the look-back audits and we are already testing. I am not saying all of them are in but it appears to us that we have got a substantial number of the bigger account holders into the voluntary disclosure arrangements.

The reason for my question is that, in the targeted audits, one individual settlement was for £1,222,000 for income tax and £1,046,000 for corporation tax. If such an amount relates to just one individual, could there be others whom you have not yet got around to? Reference was made earlier to prosecution of offenders for serious tax evasion. I know that individual cases cannot be identified but was that person prosecuted? I would certainly consider that serious tax evasion.

Mr. Quigley

That would not necessarily be the case. The figures that have been quoted are probably the figures for the audit - is that correct?

Yes, that is correct.

Mr. Quigley

These were settlement cases. It would not necessarily follow that, because of the size of the amount involved, we would have a prosecution. Availability of evidence is the relevant factor in relation to a prosecution, to establish, beyond reasonable doubt, that a case can be taken with some likelihood of success. We have to look at the quality of the evidence and our ability to prove it. In a settlement case, such as that referred to, there would not have been a prosecution. However, there could be a prosecution - and there will be prosecutions - in the cases we are coming up against if we have evidence that would enable us to investigate and make a recommendation to the DPP, who would have to be satisfied about the quality of the evidence. There are, undoubtedly, some big cases. The table shows that 16 payments of more than £1 million were made. There was one case - obviously we cannot identify cases - in which the settlement may have been close to £6 million. Undoubtedly, there are big cases and we are satisfied we have got a substantial number of big cases, but I will not tell you we have got all of them.

On the analysis of the declarations, by county, my own county is, unfortunately, at the top of the list.

Perhaps it is indicative of honesty.

Maybe so - hopefully.

Eventually.

Is there any indication of the reason for that high number of declarations? The Ansbacher scheme was initiated by one or two people. In relation to the 536 cases, is there any indication of an organised cartel?

Mr. Quigley

I have no indication of that. This is just, as it were, the straight analysis of the figures we have got. It tends to go in the same direction as some of the information in the Comptroller and Auditor General's original report, as regards the distribution, but I am not drawing any conclusions. We will look at all cases in depth in stage 2. Our main concern now is to get on with stage 2. We have given people a chance. They have taken that chance and they are entitled to what Revenue said they would get, which was voluntary disclosure treatment, no publication of names, the ceiling on interest and penalties and no investigation for prosecution. That was the deal Revenue offered and sold and these people have taken it up. Now, our focus is switching to the people who did not respond.

Perhaps the situation is not quite so bad and Deputy Ahern's suggestion may be correct. Does the term "other areas" refer to the UK and Northern Ireland?

Mr. Quigley

Yes, it could refer to the UK.

I had noted a reference to amounts of £1 million and over and I was about to ask how much over. We now know there was one case involving a sum of £6 million - was that the highest figure?

Mr. Quigley

Yes, that is the highest one.

Were there others between £1 million and £6 million?

Mr. Quigley

Yes.

I would like to compliment Revenue on the procedure it followed and the manner in which it acted. It was effective and it was up to the people concerned to avail of it. If they did not avail of it, they cannot complain afterwards about not getting a fair chance. The operation has reached the upper echelons of the scale, as distinct from those owing amounts of £250 or whatever. I note that Kildare is at the lower end of the table and I bow to the superior savings skills of people in Kerry and Cork, but perhaps I will not pursue that aspect too far.

With the imminent changeover to the euro, I assume Revenue will be vigilant to shifts and changes in the financial services area in relation to people who have money they cannot declare due to its being ill-gotten in one way or another. This will present opportunities and I hope Revenue will be ready to deal with the issue. There are suggestions and indications in the media that some "hot money" is being offered by way of loans by certain agencies - whether they are legal or illegal agencies I am not sure. A most peculiar situation arises if so-called financial services are offering interest-free loans - that is obviously being done for a purpose.

Mr. Quigley

I think the Deputy is right. If that is happening, it would be for a purpose. We would certainly be alert within our areas of responsibility. I know, from our contacts with the Central Bank, the Criminal Assets Bureau and the Garda that this is a commonly identified issue. The money laundering legislation does not directly involve Revenue, in the sense that the financial institutions report directly to the gardaí. That is something we are looking at. We have administrative arrangements for getting that information. I had a meeting with the Governor of the Central Bank earlier in the year and we intend to have regular meetings, within the constraints of EU law and domestic law. The Chairman of the Revenue Commissioners and the Governor of the Central Bank should be exchanging information and learning from what they know is going on in the system. We have regular meetings with the Criminal Assets Bureau. The committee which is specifically charged with looking at money laundering legislation would have had this item on its agenda and would have put out the word about being vigilant during this period.

To answer the question, yes, there is a possibility. All who enter this area, including financial institutions, the Revenue Commissioners, the Central Bank, the Criminal Assets Bureau and the Garda have a responsibility to be alert to what may happen. We will be looking to obtain any information that is relevant to tax evasion that may arise in this process.

I am delighted to hear that. The important thing is that the Revenue Commissioners and all the other agencies are vigilant in spotting transfers that may be taking place. It would be seriously embarrassing if it were to transpire in March or April next year, when the use of punts has expired, that some group or individuals had managed to transfer and launder sufficiently to be able to continue in business. I mention that particularly as a member of another committee which is carrying out a report on the international drugs industry and the need for international vigilance. The police and other agencies need to be in constant touch with their international colleagues because of the movements that have to take place. It is probably the biggest undercover movement in terms of money laundering that has ever been experienced. There will never be anything on the same scale again. So much money must be laundered at this time that it is imperative that all agencies are alert to what is happening and can take action. I am delighted to hear that is the case.

I notice that there was a reference on page 17 of the Vote, paragraph 13, to the prosecution of non-filers. It says that taxpayers failing to submit returns of income tax and corporation tax normally receive a warning letter from the Revenue solicitor. Why is the word "normally" used? Is it that in some cases a letter is not sent? What happens if a letter is not sent? Is legal action taken without a warning?

Mr. Quigley

I am not sure what nuance there is about "normally". We have a standard policy of sending a warning letter. To the best of my knowledge, we send a large number of warning letters. I have figures to show that in 2000 we sent 6,457 warning letters. Up to September 2001 we sent 6,693 warning letters concerning income tax and 1,308 concerning corporation tax, making a total of 8,001 warning letters. The warning letters normally produce results in the sense that a lot of people heed the warning letter and come up with the return. However, it is Revenue practice that the Revenue solicitor issues a warning letter in advance of instituting proceedings in respect of non-filing offences. I am not sure what the nuance is, but our standard practice is to issue the warning letter. That produces results as large numbers of taxpayers come forward.

Concerning page 18, paragraph 14, on DIRT and financial institutions, Mr. Quigley mentioned earlier in his report that the original 120 Ansbacher names could increase to 160.

Mr. Quigley

That is correct. A little over 160, up to maybe 165.

Why has that figure grown so much?

Mr. Quigley

We started off with the authorised officer's report. The starting point for everybody was that report produced by the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment. That was made available to us. The additional ones may not be pure Ansbacher cases, but they may be very close to that. We have pushed out the core number to approximately 160. On top of that, we are identifying all the trusts, companies and offshore entities that may be associated with those core names. On top of that, there is another list of people who are not associated with the core names. We have broadened our offshore investigations.

As a result of what we have learned, apart from our team on Ansbacher investigations, with the new staffing in Revenue we set up an offshore assets entity, a unit that will look at offshore assets and do more basic research in that area whether it concerns property transactions or otherwise. Revenue is getting more into this offshore area. I know that the Moriarty tribunal has a remit to look at the law concerning the offshore area. Offshore activity is coming before thetribunals and we are monitoring that. However, we have now set up an offshore assets area where we will do our own research and undertakeinvestigations as well as follow up on the revelations.

Would it be particularly important in relation to money laundering? The best place to launder money is through property.

Mr. Quigley

Yes. The other point the Deputy made in that context concerned the exchange of information with other authorities. That will definitely arise in the overseas assets area. We will be seeking technical mutual assistance and exchange of information with foreign tax administrations. That might be helpful to us in identifying and dealing with some of these transactions.

In relation to that, does that mean Revenue will have a close liaison with the authorities in the EU countries, particularly with the euro states?

Mr. Quigley

Yes, we have close liaison with them under existing arrangements. For the future, within the EU and the acceding states, there is active discussion about exchanging information. The new savings tax proposal, if implemented, has at its core the idea of exchanging information on interest earned by non-residents in another country. That area is becoming more interesting to us in Revenue.

Are bilateral agreements required or can there be a global agreement? What is the normal procedure for efficacy? The quickest way is the best way.

Mr. Quigley

We have both. Most of our bilateral agreements contain a clause on either spontaneous or requested exchanges of information. However, there are also EU directives going back to 1977 which regulate exchange of information, both for direct and indirect taxes.

Can Revenue rely upon the information it is likely to get from other jurisdictions? How authentic is it going to be? I can think of one or two jurisdictions that have a reputation as havens for warm money.

Mr. Quigley

You are right to make the distinction. We have bilateral agreements with the main European countries and further afield. There are about 35 double taxation treaties and we can use those. Within the EU, there are the directives I mentioned. Deputy Durkan is right that certain countries, outside the EU or the OECD, have been classified as tax havens, which are a difficult proposition. We are interested in offshore matters, but it has been difficult to deal with the fact that some of these centres may have information. Ireland is heavily involved in OECD attempts to resolve the matter of unfair tax competition and harmful tax practices. Some of the countries alluded to by Deputy Durkan have signed up to codes of conduct on the provision of information. This area is changing rapidly in a manner which will help us to get information as other countries have lost money just as the Exchequer has done. I would not like to give the impression that we can get any information we want from tax havens.

Before we leave the subject, I ask Mr. Quigley to comment on an article on Isle of Man accounts which appeared during the summer. A great deal of attention was paid to the fact that it was claimed that £2.5 billion sterling is held by Irish financial institutions, including building societies, in accounts in the Isle of Man. It was stated at the time that many of the accounts were legitimate and an institution admitted that £170 million was held on behalf of Irish investors. We have spoken of Ansbacher and DIRT and other matters related to offshore accounts. Are the Revenue Commissioners happy with the level of money leaving the country in this manner? Is Mr. Quigley satisfied that everything is above board in relation to offshore accounts held by Irish citizens?

Mr. Quigley

We do not have a full knowledge of this area, although we are obviously keenly interested in it. The Revenue Commissioners discussed the matter with the Central Bank and the Department of Finance after the DIRT Inquiry and a committee on exchange of information, with representatives of all three bodies, was established to look at offshore matters. We do not have all the information on this area. I recall this committee's discussions on the matter, when financial institutions explained the background. They compared the situation to the fact that entities such as the IFSC deal with international business, such as leasing and asset financing. It was argued that there are bone fide reasons that the subsidiaries or associated companies of financial institutions, in the Isle of Man or elsewhere, take deposits from Irish people. It was indicated that a substantial and significant proportion of such deposits were from people resident outside Ireland.

The Revenue Commissioners have spoken to the Central Bank and in the committee I mentioned dealing with offshore assets and such communication will continue. There are bona fide reasons for banks to attract sizeable deposits, for example, to finance the business of multinational companies. Deposits, collected in the Isle of Man or elsewhere, are used by financial institutions in their business. We are anxious to get all the information on this matter and the EU and the OECD are trying to encourage a greater exchange of information. The Central Bank is in contact with the regulatory authority in the Isle of Man, which implements money-laundering legislation there.

I raised the matter because the Office of the Revenue Commissioners has been engaged in a great deal of research and investigation of offshore Ansbacher accounts. Information published in the Isle of Man, which tabulates the amount of sterling funds held by financial institutions in accounts there, has been highlighted. Mr. Quigley is right to say that a great deal of the £2.5 billion sterling is above board. If a banking institution has admitted that 15% of its business, which could be quantified at £170 million sterling, comes from residents of this country, can the Revenue Commissioners be totally happy that everything is legitimate? A layman would find it hard to differentiate between the types of account as they are both offshore accounts.

Mr. Quigley

The Ansbacher scheme, as disclosed in the authorised officer's report, leads inevitably to the exotic destinations mentioned in the report. Ansbacher offshore accounts were obviously used to channel money. There is very clear information, in the report and otherwise, of avoidance schemes constructed around Ansbacher accounts, which is why we are heavily interested in Ansbacher. We do not have such information in relation to the Isle of Man. Financial institutions in this country were asked about the Isle of Man in the course of the final sessions of the DIRT hearings and responded by indicating that substantial bona fide business was being done through subsidiaries.

The Chairman mentioned a figure of 15%, but it can also be read that 85% of deposits originated in countries other than Ireland. I am not entirely happy with the matter and the Revenue Commissioners want as much information as possible about activities involving Irish residents, which is why I spoke of the new emphasis on offshore assets and on maximising information through contact with the Central Bank. We do not know or understand everything and we would like to increase our research in this area. I am conscious, as the financial institutions said, that there are bona fide reasons that money is deposited and collected abroad, just as Irish entities have substantial foreign deposits and are involved in bona fide international trade or investment transactions. One has to be balanced about the matter. The Revenue Commissioners are never complacent and we want to better understand the flows of cash and tie down the involvement of Irish residents.

It appears to me, based on the DIRT Inquiry, the tax amnesties, the increased powers of the Revenue Commissioners, access to bank documents and the co-operation of financial institutions, that there is a compliant climate at present. The Revenue Commissioners have expressed doubt and a level of unhappiness in relation to the Isle of Man, so I presume there will be an investigation to ensure that the activities of the banks are entirely legitimate, which is probably the case. The ordinary punter does not really understand this matter and was bemused when the article appeared, claiming that £3.25 billion was held in the Isle of Man.

Mr. Quigley

The Chairman is right to say that we have a big interest in this matter and that we will use our powers to pursue further information in relation to Ansbacher accounts and other offshore entities. A high degree of co-operation is being received from financial institutions throughout the country, but it is much more difficult to get information from foreign institutions. We are interested in these matters and we will pursue them in our own right and in conjunction with the Central Bank.

I wish to praise the Revenue Commissioners before we move on to paragraphs 15 and 16. We will not want to target 15 and 16. Mr. Quigley, you have heard the tributes from members of the committee on the work the Revenue Commissioners is doing, with particular regard to your opening statement. I join with the committee in thanking you for the honesty of your responses and the efficiency of your organisation. Many people do not understand the scale of your operation. I remember sitting on a previous Committee of Public Accounts when the Revenue Commissioners came in for a lot of stick. It is a welcome departure for the committee to recognise the good work being done. The work before the boom began in 1993 involved receipts of £8.5 billion a year. Last year the figure was about £20 billion, so the scale has increased dramatically. It must be recognised in that context that the Revenue Commissioners are doing an admirable job.

Mr. Quigley

Thank you very much, Chairman. It is very kind and balanced of you to say what you have because the Revenue Commissioners do come in for a fair amount of stick. Of course we are accountable and should be criticised if we fall down on the job, but comments such as those I have heard this afternoon are very welcome. I am only here representing the organisation. The comments are due to the staff and management of the organisation who have put in a huge effort in recent years in dealing with the pressures on them. I would be very happy to convey these comments to the organisation. They will provide huge encouragement at a time when very demanding tasks are being carried out by the Revenue Commissioners in customer service, where our front-line staff deal with changes such as tax credits and the euro changeover, and for our audit and investigations staff.

The scale of the operation is enormous, involving 6,500 staff. Last year, including the figures in the Comptroller and Auditor General's report, PRSI and the levies we collect as agents for the Department of Social, Community and Family Affairs, our gross tax collection was some £28 billion. That represents an enormous collection task involving strategy, expert resources and maximum use of information technology to make the entire operation efficient.

There is tremendous commitment and dedication throughout the organisation. I thank the committee very much on behalf of all my colleagues for what has been said. We have much to learn and improve upon, but we can continue with our work greatly encouraged by what has been said this afternoon.

Paragraphs 15 and 16 of the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General reads:

15. Customs Controls over Third Country Imports

Background - Customs in the EU context

Up to 1993 all imports from outside of the State were subject to customs control procedures at the 43 customs stations located at airports, seaports and at the land frontier with Northern Ireland. The establishment of the Single Market in that year removed all customs barriers between EU Member States, and now only goods imported from non-Member States (i.e. third countries) are subject to customs clearance. The legislative basis for the levy of duty is the EU Customs Code, and customs duties collected by Revenue, less a retention of 10% in respect of administration costs, are paid over to the EU. The 1994 GATT Agreement brought about a gradual reduction in the rates of customs duty. However, in addition to Customs Duty, Excise Duty and VAT may arise in respect of imports, and an indication of the amounts collected in the period 1994-2000 is given in Table 7. The customs function provides the first control point for the collection of these taxes.

Table 7 Customs Duty, Excise Duty and VAT on Imports 1994 and 2000

19942000£m£mCustoms Duty189 163 Excise Duty30 80 VAT330 641 Total549 884

Development of National Customs Procedures

National policy has been strongly influenced by the underlying policy of the EU to encourage the speedy clearance of goods and Revenue has adapted customs control procedures, since the mid-1980s, to facilitate the freer movement of goods. The current system is highly computerised. The previous system, which relied on extensive documentation and physical checks at point of entry, has been replaced with a routing system, which allows the vast majority of consignments to be cleared through customs without physical checking. Owners of approved premises undertake the physical handling and release of goods with a very limited intervention by customs staff. In effect, there is now a system of self-assessment in place, which is similar to that in use for the collection of direct taxes. The system is policed by the extensive use of intelligence and the audit of a selected sample of traders.

Audit Objectives and Scope

The objective of the audit was to assess the extent to which current customs control procedures provide adequate assurance as to the assessment and collection of all amounts due in respect of both customs duty and other taxes arising on the importation of goods from third countries, against a background of radical change in customs procedures.

As part of the audit customs regulations and procedures and relevant reports were reviewed. The computerised system for recording customs entries and the role of customs stations in the clearance of goods were examined, as were the enforcement and intelligence gathering functions of Revenue. Outline examinations were conducted at Shannon and Cork Airports and at Tivoli Docks, and a comprehensive audit was carried out at Dublin Airport. Customs approved warehouses at these locations were visited to establish the physical and accounting controls and the customs reporting procedures in operation. The Central Transit Office in Donegal, which co-ordinates the receipt and return to other member states of transit documents in respect of consignments initially taken under customs control in another Member State, was also visited. The operation of post clearance controls through the customs audit function was reviewed, and the risk analysis approach, selection process, appraisal of results and quality control were examined.

Audit Findings

The audit findings are summarised by reference to the key activities undertaken at the point of entry, in the warehouse, during transit and internal customs audit, and as part of the enforcement and intelligence functions of the Revenue. The relevant procedures are briefly described in each case.

Point of Entry

AEP routings - green/orange/red

Import details for each consignment are declared on a form known as a Single Administrative Document (SAD) and input into the central Automatic Entry Processing (AEP) system. The system also requires transportation details for a consignment. Following the completion of validation checks, the AEP system automatically assigns either a green, orange or red colour coded 'routing' to each consignment. Goods which are routed 'green' are free for release without any further customs check. Goods routed 'orange' are subject to documentary checks, while 'red' routed goods are subject to documentary and physical checks.

Routings are assigned by the system through three selection phases ^ mandatory, profiling and random. Consignments falling within the criteria for mandatory checking e.g. all excisable goods, are always assigned a red or orange routing as appropriate. Import consignments are 'profiled' or targeted for customs checking on the basis of previously known problems, risk analysis criteria or intelligence reports. In addition, the system maintains a minimum level of orange and red routings through the random allocation of such routings to SADs which would normally have qualified for green routings. Figures supplied for 2000 indicate that a total of 3% of all consignments were routed 'orange' and 8% received a 'red' routing. Customs stations receive details of all orange and red routings on daily reports, and also receive a monthly report of uncleared orange and red routed cases.

The audit findings in relation to this activity are:

There is a definite risk that importers, with direct input access to the AEP system, may be able to establish the customs routing of a particular consignment prior to committing that consignment to a specified flight. Such knowledge would remove the element of surprise associated with random checks and could provide an opportunity for importers to circumvent customs controls. Flight details are sometimes entered on the system before flight departure. Therefore, it is possible for an importer intent on circumventing customs controls, to establish the routing prior to departure and to withhold the consignment if 'red' routed. Alternately, any importer may re-input red or orange routed SADs until a favourable 'green' routing is obtained. However this will only be successful where the routing was assigned on the basis of random selection, and may come to Customs' attention either through a trader's claim for refund of the duplicate duty or the investigation of an uncleared SAD.

During our audit at Dublin Airport, eleven instances were noted where SADs routed orange or red were not presented, but goods were cleared by a duplicate entry which had been routed green. There were many instances at Shannon Airport of goods arriving on a later flight than that recorded on the SAD. These may be attributable to normal commercial practice of switching goods between flights to maximise usage of available space.

Station checks are made in response to the submission of documentation by clearance agents or traders. The daily AEP reports of goods routed orange or red were not used by the customs stations to initiate such checks. Station monitoring and follow up of red and orange routed cases are not initiated until receipt of the monthly report of uncleared items. By then it may be too late for effective action as the goods may have been removed from customs control. Significant numbers of SADs are not cleared promptly and many are never cleared or even investigated by the station. It was noted that there were 1,000 such uncleared SADs at Dublin Airport.

Selection of Import Consignments by Profile

Where import consignments are selected for customs checking through 'profiling', orange or red routings are assigned to SADs where declared particulars match the criteria specified in the profile. Particular consignments may be targeted either nationally, by sections such as the Investigation Branch or the National Freight Intelligence Unit, or locally, at each customs station. The computer system can handle a maximum of ten national profiles together with five at each local station.

The audit findings relating to this activity are:

The availability of national profiles to counter evasion of duty or taxes is reduced by other demands for profiles e.g. detection of prohibited goods and health risks.

The utilisation of local profiles is patchy. Of the four stations visited there were no active profiles at Shannon or Dublin Airports while the two Cork stations used their full allocations.

Where risk analysis is used, the process is unstructured in comparison with that used for customs audit selection.

Only traders registered on the AEP system can be directly targeted by profiles. The imports of traders using agents may not be profiled. The use of a trader's VAT number as a profile identifier can be countered by the trader making a 'Not Registered for VAT' declaration thereby avoiding selection. There are no checks on the correctness of VAT details declared. In January 2001 only one SAD had been selected from four traders profiled by their VAT No.

The effectiveness of some profiles is dependent on the element of surprise. Leaving a profile in place overlong may reduce its utility by revealing selection criteria.

Use of the Cargo Manifest as an aid to Customs Control

All goods arriving by freighter from a third country should be listed on the ship or flight manifest which must be presented to customs on arrival. The manifest provides a focus for boarding checks by customs officers. It also facilitates a completeness check as customs entries are written-off the manifest when cleared. Follow-up enquires are made for goods not written-off. At airports, daily stock reports, submitted to customs by approved warehouse operators, fulfil a similar function. These reports include SAD reference numbers in respect of cleared items.

The audit findings relating to this activity are:

Boarding checks have been severely curtailed e.g. there are no boarding checks at Dublin Airport and have been limited to about three each month at Shannon. Manifests are generally accepted by customs as complete in the absence of boarding checks.

There are no checks to ensure that imports recorded on a manifest are subsequently declared i.e. verification through the follow-up of quoted SAD reference. Customs use of manifests is limited to follow-up of goods not written-off, and for reference purposes in case of query.

Release of Goods from Customs Controlled Warehouse/Compound

Imported goods are held under customs control in a warehouse or compound pending customs clearance. Approved licensees operate the warehouses. At airports these include freight handlers and the major airlines. Customs officers are not present in the warehouses on a regular basis. Warehouse operators forward daily reports of goods taken in under customs control. These reports provide documentary evidence of the arrival of goods. A warehouse operator will release goods on presentation of customs clearance documentation, which is either routed green, or routed orange or red and stamped by customs. A second daily report detailing how goods were released is forwarded to customs within 21 days. Items not written-off are subject to customs enquiry.

The audit findings in relation to this activity are:

In response to explanations sought during audit relating to outstanding uncleared SADs, we were informed that seven consignments routed orange and two routed red at Shannon for the period March - May 2000 and 18 red routed consignments at Dublin Airport for the period July 1999 ^ June 2000, had been removed from the warehouse without customs clearance.

The absence of a pre-determined format for customs clearance documentation may facilitate the use of bogus documentation.

In two of the four warehouses visited, the systems used to account for goods under customs control were integrated with the warehouse operators' own accounting systems. This provided additional assurance as to the completeness of records.

Transit System

The EU Transit System facilitates trade by allowing the temporary suspension of duties and taxes while goods are transported through EU territory. The suspension, which is covered by guarantee, remains in place until the goods leave the EU, are transferred to an alternative customs regime or are released following payment of duties and taxes. The first EU country from where goods depart creates and retains the original transit documentation. One of two copies is stamped by the customs authority of the country of destination, returned, and matched with the original allowing release of the guarantee. If a stamped copy is not received back within 10 weeks, an enquiry is initiated by the country of departure to trace the documentation or, if necessary, the consignment.

The audit findings in relation to the operation of the Transit System are:

The audit at Dublin Airport indicated that stamped transit documents were not reconciled with corresponding SADs or other appropriate customs procedure. Reconciliation, which is carried out at land and harbour stations, verifies that imports have been entered in the customs systems, and that duty has been assessed for payment.

In 1999, 3,100 enquiries were initiated arising from 40,000 inward transits processed in Ireland, and £275,000 was collected from 18 SADs created retrospectively by Customs. In these 18 cases goods had been imported into Ireland without any form of customs declaration. These cases were treated as innocent oversights.

Customs Audit

The level of customs checks at point of entry has been greatly reduced in recent years. Customs audit units, located in each Collection area, but under the direction of the Audit Management Unit (AMU) in Dublin, are now the main means of policing the entire system. Risk analysis techniques are used to select traders for check. The focus is evenly divided between local selection, based on local knowledge, and national selection which is product and trader based. Checks can cover periods of up to three years, and are carried out at the premises of the trader who is required to retain all business and customs documentation for that period. The audit approach is set out in comprehensive guidelines, which require that work performed is recorded on detailed checklists.

During 2000, 396 or approximately 5% of traders were audited with the following results

underpayments in 33% of cases totalling £1.4m,

overpayments in 10% of cases with £0.4m repaid,

less than half of cases were fully compliant.

Details of audits conducted during the years 1997-2000 are given in Table 8.

Table 8 Results of Customs Audit of Traders 1997-2000

1997

1998

1999

2000

No. of Audits

258

324

321

396

Underpayment Cases

52%

41%

37%

33%

Underpayment Value

£4.5m

£2.3m

£1.9m

£1.4m

Overpayment Cases

6%

12%

20%

10%

Overpayment Value

£0.2m

£0.7m

£0.7m

£0.4m

A customs inspection of 70 clearance agents in December 1999 found numerous poorly completed SADs. Errors included misclassification of goods, wrong VAT number and no country of origin recorded. Some importers were marked not registered for VAT where VAT numbers were available. In other cases duplicate SAD entries were noted. These errors gave rise to both under and over payments of duty and VAT.

The audit findings in relation to this activity are:

The risk analysis selection process for customs audit is confined to traders registered for VAT. A SAD which does not include a VAT No. will be excluded from selection for customs audit.

No tests for non-declarations, e.g. tracing items from traders' records to declaration forms, were found in a random sample of 12 customs audit files reviewed in the course of my audit.

Completed audit files are returned to the AMU, but are not subjected to quality control examinations. The audit checklist had been completed in only one of the 12 audit files examined. Audit evaluation and quality control is not possible without a record of work done, findings reached and action taken. Notwithstanding these findings it was noted that post-SADs in relation to customs duty were raised in all underpayment cases and repayments instigated in all overpayment cases in the sample examined. When adjustments giving rise to underpayments of customs duty also resulted in additional VAT charges, there was no evidence of any action being taken to collect the additional VAT.

Enforcement

The Investigation Bureau is the criminal investigation arm of the Customs and Excise service. Most of its work is directed against smuggling operations in the tobacco and alcohol sectors. It targets particular consignments for examination on the basis of both its own assessments and the results of mutual assistance arrangements with other countries. It also follows up referrals from the EU Anti Fraud Unit and the Irish customs and excise service. Targeted consignments are subjected to physical checks by local station staff under Investigation Branch supervision. Over 96 million cigarettes and 4.9 tonnes of tobacco were seized in 2000: £15m was the potential revenue loss. In excess of £5m was collected in additional duties and compromise penalties. A total of 10 cases were referred for prosecution.

The audit findings in relation to this activity are:

The main priorities of Investigation Branch are the seizure of smuggled goods and the collection of unpaid duties. Interest and the threat of prosecution appear to be of little practical deterrent value. However, the disruption in the clearance of the goods of traders, which follows profiling, can act as a deterrent. Prior issue of a letter of sanction puts a trader on notice, that further irregularities may have such a result.

Prosecutions of customs fraud, other than for the sale of smuggled alcohol or cigarettes, are rarely pursued due to the difficulty in obtaining convictions.

There is no provision for the imposition of administrative monetary penalties in the case of a customs irregularity involving only error or neglect. In accordance with the EU Customs Code, interest is chargeable only from the date of the demand as distinct from the date of arrival of goods. Consequently interest amounts tend to be small and of little deterrent value.

Intelligence

The National Freight Intelligence Unit (NFIU) was established in 1999 to centrally collect, analyse, enhance and disseminate freight intelligence on a national basis. Its task is to target smuggled goods transported by sea. The Unit has access to Revenue and EU databases and various other sources of information. It continues to develop its own database from these resources and from information provided by customs operational units. Detailed intelligence reports are produced which assist operational units to identify high-risk traffic. These are passed to other areas of Revenue when relevant to tax compliance issues. The Unit issues messages categorised as 'high risk', 'low risk', or 'background'. The effective development of the Unit's work is dependent on adequate feedback from users of the information. The messages issued during 2000 led to the seizure of 53 million cigarettes and consignments of counterfeit goods when followed up by operational units. The NFIU may respond directly to the information at its disposal by creating a "national profile" in the AEP system. Customs stations are required to notify the NFIU following the declaration of a consignment which the NFIU has profiled, and the Unit may decide on further action by the local station or the Revenue Mobile Service.

The audit findings in relation to this activity are:

The NFIU does not cover airfreight.

Responses to the information distributed by the NFIU vary. Good responses to 'high risk' messages were noted but the response to 'low risk' and 'background' messages appears patchy. There has been no feedback from the detailed intelligence reports issued.

It would appear from AEP system reports that the NFIU is not always contacted in relation to cases it has profiled.

Conclusions

The requirements of national, EU and international trade dictate that the operation of customs controls by each country facilitates the rapid recording and clearance of imports. The assessment and collection of the appropriate duties and taxes must now adapt to the necessity to avoid disruption to trading activity. The customs authorities must operate adequate procedures for the detection of evasion of duty and the importation of prohibited goods within this constraint.

The Revenue approach has been to offset the greatly reduced level of policing and checking at point of entry with a combination of initiatives. These include a more focused sample selection process, a greater emphasis on the gathering and dissemination of quality intelligence, and the conduct of periodic audits on traders' premises. The findings of this audit note aspects of control procedures in different parts of the system which merit examination by Revenue with a view to making changes leading to an improvement in the overall quality of customs control.

In particular;

At point of entry, verification of SAD references entered on a manifest, and early review and follow-up of uncleared red/orange routings on each AEP daily report would reduce the risk of manipulation of the system. The AEP system should be reviewed to ensure that importers have no opportunity to influence the "routing" given to any particular consignment.

It is unsatisfactory that items from consignments selected for customs check can be released from warehouses without any customs authorisation.

The option of providing each warehouse operator with an enquiry/verification facility might be considered together with the promotion of more widespread integration of warehouse accounting records with those relating to goods under customs control.

It is unclear why all airport stations do not reconcile stamped transit documents with corresponding SADs, as is the practice at land and harbour stations. This check ensures that all items have entered the customs system and have been assessed for duty.

Ongoing efforts to improve the quality of customs audit should continue. Standard audit programmes and checklists should be used for all checks, both to provide evidence of work done, and to facilitate review and quality control. The selection of cases for customs audit should be broadened to increase the possibility of detecting deliberate misdeclarations by infrequent users. At least some audits should trace items from traders' records to declaration forms. The outcomes and impact of the audit programme should be kept under review both from the audit viewpoint and as part of the overall control system;

The focus of controls on the collection of customs duty needs to be balanced with recognition for the greater revenue earning VAT on imports.

The collection and dissemination of quality information is very important in the changed environment in which customs controls now operate. Prompt feedback from stations would undoubtedly aid the operation and development of the intelligence function. The ongoing project to improve the flow of information throughout Revenue may impact positively on the information exchange both between NFIU and customs stations, and between the unit and the rest of Revenue.

16. The Administration of Relevant Contracts Tax

Background

Relevant Contracts Tax (RCT) is a tax deduction system introduced in 1970 to counter tax avoidance in sub-contracting or 'lumping' in the construction industry. Many of these sub-contractors had escaped the tax net due to the difficulty of identifying them. Under the RCT system, a sub-contractor faces the choice of registering with and obtaining clearance from Revenue for receipt of payments from principal contractors without deduction of tax, or of having tax deducted at a flat rate of 35% from all payments. The system also applies to forestry and meat processing operations, but most principal contractors (98%), certified sub-contractors (95%) and uncertified sub-contractors (98%) are involved in the construction industry. Indicators of the level of activity for 1999-2001 can be seen in Table 9.

Table 9 Relevant Contracts Tax Activity 1999-2001

1999

2000

2001

RCT paid to Revenue

£196m

£267m

No. of Contracts where RCT not deducted

155,000

196,000

No. of Principal Contractors*

22,000

23,000

No. of Certified Sub-Contractors*

27,000

32,000

No. of Uncertified Sub-Contractors

36,000

37,000

*About 11,000 Principal Contractors also act as certified sub-contractors and these are included in both categories.

Under the RCT system, a principal contractor must establish, for each job, whether a worker is more properly considered as a sub-contractor or as an employee for that job. There is no absolute definition covering all cases, and the correct categorisation will be an overall assessment based on what each worker actually does, the way they do it and the terms and conditions under which they are engaged. In addition to whether the worker should be taxed under the PAYE or self assessment systems, there is an extended issue relating to PRSI contributions and benefits coverage for the workers concerned. In relation to all cases where it is appropriate to operate RCT, a principal contractor is required to keep certain records and to make monthly and annual returns and pay over tax deducted to Revenue.

Audit Objectives and Scope

The overall objective of my audit was to establish whether the systems and procedures for the administration of RCT, as operated by Revenue, were adequate to ensure that all tax due was collected and, in so far as it was reasonable for Revenue to do so, that any aspect of that tax scheme was not used to avoid payment of other taxes or to perpetrate abuses in other areas of State administration e.g. Department of Social, Community and Family Affairs (DSCFA).

In particular, the audit examination focused on the key segments of the overall RCT system i.e.

the control of sub-contractors Certificates of Authorisation (C2 Certificates)

the issue of Relevant Payment Cards to principal contractors

compliance and enforcement activities of the Collector General

annual returns of RCT to Tax Districts

repayment or offset of RCT deductions from sub-contractors

Revenue audit and liaison with DSCFA.

Following discussions with officials in the Technical Services Branch of the Chief Inspector's Office, the operation of procedures were reviewed in two tax districts - Dublin Audit District 1 (which deals exclusively with the construction industry in the greater Dublin area) and Galway District. Work undertaken at each location included:

review of procedures for issue and renewal of C2 Certificates

review of procedures for issue of Relevant Payment Cards

identification of extent of processing and checking of year end returns

review of procedures for dealing with claims for refunds/offsets

examination of a sample of audit files for evidence of RCT checks

extent of liaison with DSCFA.

Compliance and collection procedures in operation in the Collector General's Office were also reviewed.

Further documentation and data were examined during the course of the audit relating to general RCT statistics, tax instructions issued to districts, Revenue audit statistics, liaison with DSCFA and sanctions for non-compliance, together with a 1999 report by Revenue's Internal Audit Division on procedures governing the issue of C2 Certificates.

While RCT applies to sub-contracting in both the forestry and meat processing industries, all of the cases which came under review during my audit related to the construction industry. This was not surprising as with up to 98% of the principals and sub-contractors based in that industry, it provides the main focus of the operation of the scheme and consequently of this report.

C2 Certificates for Certified Sub-Contractors

A sub-contractor whose tax affairs are fully in order for the previous three years may receive a C2 Certificate from Revenue. The certificate is valid for one year (3 years in the case of sub-contractors with a turnover in excess of £5m) and allows the sub-contractor to receive payments from the principal contractor without deduction of RCT. The legislation allows Revenue to issue a C2 Certificate even though there has not been full compliance if in all circumstances of the case they consider one should issue. If the sub-contractor falls into arrears with tax returns or payments, the renewal of certification is withheld. In the years 1999/2000 and 2000/01, Revenue policed the system by checking the tax position of all new applicants, together with a sample of renewals. There are approximately 32,000 certified sub-contractors.

The audit findings in relation to this section are:

For 2000/01 Revenue checked 26% of renewals in the Dublin area and 12% or 839 were withheld. Galway had a higher check rate of 66% with 450 (24%) withheld.

A Revenue Internal Audit report of November 2000 noted that the majority of cases in the Dublin area were renewed without an adequate check of the holders' tax affairs. Revenue have stated that there was a 100% check on renewals prior to 1999/2000 and that the low level of checking in 2000/01 was due to resource constraints. A subsequent general instruction, issued in November 2000, required that all future renewals were to be checked. Of the 8,600 Dublin renewals checked for 2001/02, 4,500 cases were initially withheld, and in excess of £8m in outstanding taxes was collected from 1,100 of these cases. 1,500 have not yet been released.

The Internal Audit Report also found that proper records were not maintained of the reviews performed. This deficiency was also reflected in the sample examined during my audit, which noted that evidence was not retained on file to indicate checks completed or the extent of any outstanding tax. Revenue have stated that from November 2000, Districts are required to ensure that a record is maintained to indicate by whom the renewal decision was made.

Payments to Certified Sub-Contractors

Prior to making payments without deduction of RCT to a certified sub-contractor with a valid C2 Certificate, a principal contractor must obtain a Relevant Payments Card from Revenue in respect of the sub-contractor. In doing so, the principal and the sub-contractor make a joint declaration that the contract between them is not a contract of employment. Details from the payment cards of all principals making payments to each sub-contractor and of the number of contracts undertaken by each sub-contractor are entered on a computer system.

The audit findings in relation to this section are:

Revenue set a case specific limit on the number of contracts held by each sub-contractor and each case is required to be reviewed before a payments card in excess of the limit is issued. However, details of the limit set are not held on the computer system which is used to issue payments cards. The requirement to review details from two separate systems increases the risk of a payments card being issued off one system which may breach the limit recorded on the other.

At the end of a tax year, a principal contractor may submit a single application for the renewal of payment cards in respect of sub-contractors with ongoing contracts. Less information is required than with an original single application. Revenue checks to ensure that each sub-contractor has collected a valid C2 Certificate, but does not check that the principal contractor had originally submitted a full application and obtained a Relevant Payments Card for each sub-contractor. Revenue have indicated the practical difficulty in making such checks due to the very large number of payments card applications which are received shortly before the beginning of the tax year. The approach has been to deal with incorrect applications by principals by way of audit checks.

Compliance and Enforcement

The principal contractor is required to send to the Collector General a monthly return of RCT deducted from payments to sub-contractors and to pay over the total amount of tax. The Collector General is responsible for the pursuit of principal contractors who fail to comply. RCT has not been incorporated into the main computerised assessment and collection systems. The resulting weakness in the RCT collection process is considered below in the context of recent initiatives by the Collector General to improve the position.

1998 Collector General Working Group

The Group recommended amendments to legislation to address deficiencies in the legal framework underpinning the RCT collection and enforcement process and the legislative changes were introduced in the Finance Act, 1999. It also proposed that RCT be incorporated into the Collector General's co-ordinated tracking and case-working system pending eventual incorporation into the Revenue mainframe computer system. As interim measures, it recommended ongoing monthly monitoring of principal contractors who paid large amounts of RCT and a review of the register of principal contractors to remove any which may have gone out of business.

The audit findings in relation to this section are:

The method of holding information in the existing RCT system did not fit easily into the Collector General's case-working system and the pursuit of arrears remained essentially a manual operation.

Since 2000, the 400 principal contractors who have paid in excess of £75,000 annually are monitored quarterly to ensure that returns and payments are up to date. It is reckoned that estimates to the value of approximately £6m have been raised in about 200 cases as a result of this control. The shortcomings to this approach are that high value defaulters may not be included, and no other cases are systematically monitored for compliance. RCT arrears are followed up when coming to light in the pursuit of VAT or PAYE arrears cases.

The full scale monitoring of RCT through the Collector General's computerised case working system will not be possible until RCT is incorporated into the main Integrated Taxation Processing system which is under continuing development. A final date has not been set for the inclusion of RCT in the development programme.

Collector General's Debt Management Task Force 1999

During 1999, the Collector General's Debt Management Task Force assessed the extent of Revenue's exposure to significant RCT liabilities through examination of a sample of 1,000 principal contractors selected on the basis of payment levels or through indications of non-compliance. 111 cases from a reduced sample of 354 arrears cases with annual balances outstanding in excess of £10,000, were examined in detail and it was found that £3.4m of the £6.3m total RCT liability on record in respect of these cases was collectible. £1.3m arrears were collected together with £0.5m relating to the current year.

On the basis of these results, the Task Force estimated that the amount collectible from the sample of 354 cases amounted to £13m. Based on this estimate, recorded arrears relating to a further sample of 460 similar cases were reduced from £43m to an estimated collectible £15m. An additional £8m was considered to be collectible in respect of assessments raised in a further 2,249 cases. Details are summarised in Table 10.

Table 10 - Collectible Arrears of Relevant Contracts Tax due by Principal Contractors

Description of Sample or Block of Cases

Number of Cases

Recorded Liability

Deemed Collectible

Reduced sample from original 1,000

354

£21m

£13m

Extrapolation to cases similar to 354

460

£43m

£15m

Cases where annual assessments issued

2,249

£8m

£8m

Total

£72m

£36m

The Task Force report concluded that there was a readily identifiable block of recent RCT arrears of the order of £30m - £35m, with perhaps half as much again in respect of other taxes, the bulk of which was concentrated in less than 1,000 cases. The amount collectible may be higher and further arrears would certainly have been identified if cases with an annual arrears balance of less than £10,000 had been included in the examination.

The audit findings in relation to this section are:

The report recommended that resources be provided to carry out an intensive case by case review to finalise collection of the arrears of in excess of £30m. This has not been done due to continuing pressure on resources and an industrial relations dispute in relation to using the case working system for RCT collection. However, the industrial relations dispute has now been resolved and collection case workingwill henceforth include the pursuit of RCT.

Use of Revenue Mobile Service 2000

In recognition of the limitations of the current collection arrangements, the Collector General established a pilot project in 2000 under which certain non-compliant RCT cases were referred to the Revenue Mobile Service for investigation. The cases selected for referral are those where the monthly returns for the current year or the annual return for the previous year have not been submitted, and the objective was to obtain outstanding returns and collect outstanding tax. The initial referrals in February 2000 were to the Revenue Mobile Service units in Tullamore and Dublin. Units in Sligo, Letterkenny and Waterford commenced work in this area in October 2000.

In 2000, a total of 1,552 cases were sent to the Revenue Mobile Service. Work commenced on 1,086 of these before the year end and 756 were settled. Of the cases settled, 113 have paid £1.9m in outstanding taxes including RCT of £1.6m. The majority of the other cases were settled by submission of outstanding monthly returns, many of which were 'nil' returns.

The audit findings in relation to this section are:

Due to concentration on other work, the units in Tullamore and Dublin ceased investigation of RCT cases in June 2000 and January 2001 respectively.

Following a decision to establish the project on a permanent basis, lists of RCT cases were sent to other Revenue Mobile Service units in February 2001. However, due to industrial relations difficulties, these cases are not being worked at present.

Compliance Rates for Monthly Returns

Monthly RCT returns from principal contractors are due in the Office of the Collector General nine days after the end of each income tax month. From May 1999, it became obligatory to submit a return regardless of whether RCT had been deducted in the month. National monthly compliance rates for mid-2000 and for early 2001 are shown in Table 11.

Table 11 - National Compliance Rates for Monthly Returns of Tax within One Month of the Due Date

RCT

PAYE/PRSI*

VAT*

July 2000

23%

52%

41%

February 2001

37%

53%

43%

*The monthly compliance rates for these taxes increases to 78% and 85%, respectively, 12 months after the due date.

The audit findings in relation to this section are:

monthly compliance rates for RCT compare unfavourably with the rates for PAYE and VAT after one month. This may reflect the absence of a computerised collection system.

Annual Returns of Relevant Contracts Tax

Annual Returns of RCT are required to be sent to the principal contractor's local tax office within 46 days of the end of the tax year. The return shows the cumulative payments to all sub-contractors, the cumulative tax deducted, total payments to each sub-contractor (certified and uncertified) and the RCT deducted. In addition, the principal is required to provide each sub-contractor's tax reference number (whether certified or not), the number of the Relevant Payments Card issued by Revenue for each sub-contractor who was paid gross and the sub-contractor's date of birth, if uncertified and an individual.

The audit findings in relation to this section are:

Long term levels of compliance would appear to be only of the order of 60% - 70%. The extent of returns in the Collector General's 1999 Task Force sample of 1,000 was 60%, while Galway District measured the 1999/2000 compliance rate at 62% in March 2001. Overall national rates are shown in Table 12. In comparison, overall rates of return for PAYE annual returns (P35s) are regularly in the region of 95% by seven months after the set deadline. However, as employment situations tend to be more permanent, Revenue would expect a higher rate of compliance as compared with RCT and also consider that the lower RCT rate may be due in part to principal contractors having no RCT activity in a particular year.

Table 12 - Annual Relevant Contracts Tax Compliance Rates at March 2001

Year

1997-98

1998-99

1999-2000

Number Issued

17,576

19,494

21,972

% received by 28-4-99

74%

Not available

-

% received by 30-4-00

78%

64%

Not available

% received by 2-2-01

Not available

69%

65%

There is no formal compliance campaign for RCT annual returns as exists for P35s in the PAYE system. In Galway, a reminder letter is issued and a list of non-filers provided to the Inspector in charge of audit. In Dublin, a special six-week project was undertaken in respect of 1998/99 annual returns where non-filers were contacted by phone and letter. Records were updated as necessary and the final list of non-filers was transferred to audit. This was not repeated for subsequent years.

It is not possible for districts to readily identify which principal contractors have not submitted annual returns. A special request is made to Computer Division to prepare a list.

A limited level of checking is applied to annual returns received. My audit revealed that the level of checking varies considerably between Districts. Revenue have stated that the content of returns is checked by reference to the original records where a principal contractor is the subject of a Revenue Audit.

Most of the information on the annual returns is not processed through the Revenue computer system. There is no programme in place to deal with underpaid returns and it is not possible to generate automatic demands in respect of balances due.

Further points noted from the audit samples were

From my review of the Galway sample it was considered that tax should have been deducted from

three sub-contractors who had a C2 Certificate but in respect of whom the principal contractor had not obtained a relevant payments card;

three sub-contractors who did not hold a C2 Certificate;

one sub-contractor who could not be identified;

In the Dublin sample of Annual Returns, a Tax Serial Number was not quoted in the case of 271 (70%) sub-contractors without a payments card number and from whom RCT was deducted. The absence of this key reference number makes it very difficult to accurately trace any case through the records of Revenue or the DSCFA.

Checks were not performed in either Tax District to establish whether any tax reference or payment card numbers quoted were valid.

In response to the points relating to the level of checking of annual returns, Revenue have indicated that the ability to carry out checks on annual returns, particularly in the Dublin area, has been severely limited by the growth in the numbers in RCT and in the building industry generally and by competing demands for staff. The growth in the numbers is illustrated by the increase in the numbers on Revenue records as self-employed individuals in the construction industry from 22,000 in 1995 to 47,000 in 1999. Over the same period the number of holders of C2 Certificates has increased from 17,000 to 28,000 with consequential increases in the numbers of payment cards to be issued (96,000 to 196,000). The numbers of uncertified sub-contractors to be serviced has also increased (repayments up from 33,000 to 55,000).

Repayment or Offset of Relevant Contracts Tax Deductions

Following deduction of RCT, the principal contractor issues a deduction certificate to the sub-contractor with each payment showing the gross amount of the payment and the tax deducted. Deduction certificates are pre-numbered and only issued by the tax office to registered principals. On the basis of the deduction certificate, a sub-contractor can claim for refund/credit of the RCT deducted after the end of the month in which the payment was made. RCT deducted can be credited against any tax owed or estimated, PAYE/PRSI owed for employees, and VAT or RCT deducted by the sub-contractor as a principal. Each refund claim is checked to ensure that no taxes or returns are outstanding from the sub-contractor. If there is any tax outstanding, the RCT withheld is offset against the liability prior to any refund being made.

The audit findings in relation to this section are

When a claim is being processed, Revenue does not check that the principal contractor listed on the deduction certificate is valid, that his reference number is correct and that the certificate was issued to that principal. Revenue have stated that the sheer volume of repayment claims and the need to process such claims speedily make such checks very difficult to perform when the repayment is being processed. Districts have been advised to implement local security arrangements regarding deduction certificates.

In processing a repayment claim by a sub-contractor, Revenue does not check that the principal is up to date with his RCT returns and payments. As monthly returns from principals do not detail the sub-contractors in respect of whom deductions were made, it is not possible for Revenue to establish if a principal had remitted the RCT in respect of which a sub-contractor is claiming a refund or offset. This, however, is in line with other fiduciary taxes. The fact that the principal may not have remitted the tax does not affect the sub-contractor's right to a refund, provided there is evidence that the deduction was suffered in a bona fide transaction.

Of the sample of 19 claims for refund or offset examined during my audit, there was no evidence placed on file in 13 cases to show that all taxheads had been checked for outstanding liabilities when the claim was processed. Revenue have advised that it is standard procedure to check that other taxes were up to date, notwithstanding that such checks may not be recorded on the papers.

RCT is in theory revenue neutral as the amounts deducted are taken into account when balancing the taxpayers' affairs. However many sub-contractors would appear to accept the liability rather than claim repayment or offset against other taxes. The total amount of RCT deducted but for which repayment or offset was not claimed over the four years 1997 - 2000 was £92m (or 12% of the RCT deducted in the period). The gross receipts, repayments and offsets on a cash basis for each of those years is shown in Table 13.

As details of Annual Returns of RCT from principal contractors are not captured on the Revenue system, it is not possible to identify and investigate those sub-contractors who do not apply for refund/offset of RCT deducted. While failure to claim would not appear to be advantageous in many instances, it is also possible that some sub-contractors are avoiding tax at higher rates or may be claiming social welfare benefits. However, Revenue have stated that there is no evidence of working and signing in relation to non-claimants.

Table 13 - Relevant Contracts Tax cash collection, repayment and offset 1997-2000

1997 £m

1998 £m

1999 £m

2000 £m

Total £m

Gross collected

154

175

196

267

792

Repaid

(45)

(55)

(61)

(80)

(241)

Offset against other tax liabilities

(84)

(110)

(118)

(147)

(459)

Not Allocated

25

10

17

40

92

Revenue consider that the reasons for the £92m difference shown between RCT collected and amounts repaid and offset include

set off will tend to lag behind receipt as the principal contractor is obliged to pay over RCT monthly while claims and related tax returns of income may not be received from sub-contractors for a number of years;

the size of the difference will be exacerbated in a time of growth in the industry;

various other reasons, including, foreign sub-contractors who do not claim, evidence of deduction mislaid and repayment refused pending further action by the sub-contractor.

Revenue Audit Checks

Aspects of the RCT system may be examined during different types of Revenue audits:

comprehensive audits which examine all taxes including RCT;

employers' PAYE/PRSI audits which may include a review of whether workers should be classified as employees or sub-contractors;

combined fiduciary audits which examine VAT, RCT and PAYE/PRSI, and

audits which focus primarily on RCT.

Instructions, including risk indicators, are in place for Revenue auditors engaged in audits that include RCT. 352 single taxhead RCT audits were completed in 2000. Of these, 172 yielded no additional liability while the remainder yielded £1.32m. No separate figure is available for the number of comprehensive and combined fiduciary audits that included RCT. However, a total of £860,000 in respect of RCT was included in the overall settlements for such audits. A further category of desk verification audits yielded £1.9m in PAYE and RCT (no breakdown is available).

In 1998, a special programme of 6,200 visits to principal contractors was undertaken by Revenue to check whether any persons registered and treated for RCT purposes as sub-contractors should be reclassified as employees. During the visits, the status of 63,000 sub-contract situations was examined and 12,000 were reclassified as employees. A similar campaign commenced in August 2001.

The audit findings in relation to this section are:

files relating to 35 Revenue construction industry audits were examined. The absence from some files of a worksheet listing of tests completed made review difficult. However, while most Combined Fiduciary/RCT audits take place in one day, a substantial degree of checking is generally carried out;

while the classification of employees is examined during every PAYE and RCT audit, figures are not available in relation to the number of reclassifications as a result of routine audit activity.

Revenue Liaison with Department of Social Community and Family Affairs

Since 1990 Revenue and the DSCFA have carried out joint investigations through Joint Investigation Units with staff from both departments. The units operate in all parts of the country and focus on cases where the claiming of unemployment benefit while working is likely to arise, or where there is evidence of non-operation of PAYE/PRSI by the employer. They operate in all industries including the construction industry. In dealing with construction industry cases, the operating practice of the units is to visit sites, interview all the persons on site, ascertain whether they are employees or subcontractors and holders of C2 Certificates and ascertain the wage levels. These details are subsequently checked to computer records to see for example, whether sub-contractors are set up for self-assessment. Officers from the DSCFA may check to see if any workers are claiming social welfare benefits. In some cases, a site may be placed under observation. As a result of visits by the Joint Investigation Unit, some businesses are selected for audit by Revenue. A list of visits is not maintained. Reports are only produced if the case subsequently becomes an audit case. The latest Galway JIU investigation into a construction industry case commenced in May 2000. The latest Revenue audit in Galway of a construction case, which was initiated as a result of a Joint Investigation Unit operation, took place in September 1998.

The audit findings in relation to this section are:

Two Revenue officials are assigned to the Dublin Joint Investigation Unit on a full time basis as well as some 12 officials from the DSCFA. The Unit in Galway is staffed by four part time staff, of which one is from Revenue. In 2000, a total of 412 visits were undertaken in Dublin yielding £4.4m in taxes. There is no management information on the number of these that would have considered RCT issues. It is estimated that in Dublin 5-10% of visits relate to the construction industry.

Apart from the Joint Investigation Units there is no interaction between Revenue and DSCFA in relation to RCT at an operational level. While a wide range of electronic data is exchanged, none relates specifically to RCT matters. Revenue obtains details of payments to all sub-contractors by means of the annual returns from each principal contractor. If all information was electronically captured, it could be compared with DSCFA records and assist in the identification of any instances of sub-contractors working while claiming social welfare payments.

During my audit, 33 cases of a sample of 51 sub-contractors extracted from annual returns of RCT were identified on the DSCFA computer system from details on the completed RCT returns (serial number and/or date of birth). The records showed no claims for social welfare benefits in 30 of these cases, while 3 cases indicated drawings for short periods not incompatible with intermittent sub-contracting activity. The remaining 18 cases could not be identified due to incomplete information on the RCT annual return. Revenue have pointed out that every person in the construction industry who takes on either an employee or a sub-contractor is obliged to notify the DSCFA and that this is the primary method of detecting working and signing.

Sanction against Non-Compliance

The principal contractor is liable for breaches of RCT regulations and in general sanctions will be against the principal. RCT non-compliance is generally punished by the application of civil penalties and interest. These penalties are reflected in audit settlements. Since January 2000, there has been one case prosecuted in respect of an offence under RCT legislation. The taxpayer was charged with aiding and abetting the misuse of a C2 Certificate. The evidence for the prosecution was heard in the District Court in March 2001 and a bench warrant was issued for the defendant who had not appeared in court.

Conclusions

RCT has proved to be an effective means of obtaining tax from a recalcitrant category of taxpayers.

The significant increase in the number of sub-contractors operating in the construction industry has put a strain on the systems used for assessing and collecting RCT. The fact that RCT processing is not integrated into the main Revenue computer system is a considerable drawback to the efficient and effective collection of tax.

Revenue needs to prioritise the development of systems which will enable it to maximise the benefit from the information obtained from RCT activity.

The nature and extent of the checking of RCT returns needs to be reviewed to ensure that it is effective in detecting underpayments of RCT.

The 100% check of sub-contractors' tax affairs prior to the renewal of C2 Certificates lapsed in 1999/2000 due to resource constraints. Although instructions have since issued requiring all renewals be checked, it is important to reiterate that this fundamental control should operate at all times.

Some positive initiatives in collection arrangements were effected in the last two years an identifiable block of RCT arrears of £30m - £35m was pinpointed by a Debt Management Task Force in 1999 in 2000, a pilot project was established under which certain non-compliant RCT cases were referred to the Revenue Mobile Service since 2000, large cases are monitored quarterly to ensure that payments and returns are up to date.

Revenue needs to capitalise on these initiatives by making sure that personnel and resources are deployed to collect the identified outstanding RCT.

The delay in following up the RCT arrears increases the risk of non-collection and sends an undesirable signal to non-compliant contractors.

The current programme of visits to principal contractors to check the employment status of workers on building sites is appropriate bearing in mind the increase in activity and changing employment patterns since 1998 when the last such programme was undertaken.

Mr. Glavey

These two paragraphs are somewhat different from their predecessors in that both report on the results of targeted examinations of particular areas of the Revenue Commissioners' operations. Paragraph 14 records the results of a targeted examination of the adequacy of custom controls for the collection of duties and taxes on goods imported into the State from non-EU countries. These controls must be assessed in the context of the enormous changes in the customs operating environment brought about by EU policies to facilitate the freer movement of goods and the general liberalisation of international trade, particularly since the establishment of the Single Market in 1993.

The customs service has adapted to this new environment by moving from systems which relied heavily on paper documentation and extensive physical checks at points of entry to systems which are highly computerised and rely much more on selective physical checks. This new approach places much greater emphasis on intelligence gathering and risk assessment. Checks at points of entry are supplemented by post-clearance audits of traders' records. These changes demonstrate how Revenue has successfully adapted its procedures to maintain adequate control over imports in a radically changed trading environment. Our examination tested all the key components of the Revenue Commissioners' customs system. We tested the components operating at points of entry, on the release of goods from controlled warehouses, in the transit system, during the customs audit and the enforcement and intelligence functions of the system. The audit findings set out in the paragraph focus on aspects of the control procedures in the different parts of the system which merit examination by the Revenue Commissioners with a view to making changes leading to an improvement in the overall control of customs.

The second targeted paragraph deals with a different area of operations. Paragraph 16 records the results of our examination of relevant contracts tax, which is a tax deduction system designed to prevent tax avoidance by sub-contractors, mainly in the construction industry. There is, of course, a long history of concern about the taxation of the construction industry. The Public Accounts Committee considered the issue of subcontractors in that industry at a meeting in July 2000 which involved not only the Revenue Commissioners, but representatives of the Department of Social, Community and Family Affairs, the Construction Industry Federation and the relevant trade unions. That meeting dealt comprehensively with the issues and put particular emphasis on the problem of misclassification of employees as sub-contractors. This is the background to our examination of those operations. Each of the key elements of the relevant contacts tax system was examined and our findings in each area are set out in the paragraph.

Mr. Quigley

We welcome the special audits carried out by the Comptroller and Auditor General in the two areas Mr. Glavey has dealt with. They have indicated strengths of ours and they have indicated weaknesses. We find the audits very constructive and we have learned from them. We have already implemented a number of changes suggested in the report. The matter of computerisation is common to both studies because we have had to prioritise our computer work. There is a huge demand for computerisation and we are building an integrated taxpayer processing system on which we have made great progress. We now have an on-line service allowing the filing of tax returns via the Internet. The work is groundbreaking in terms of electronic filing and has been recognised as such in EU studies.

We have had to prioritise the changes in the tax year and the euro, so we are somewhat behind in some of the areas mentioned in the reports. We are intent on developing our automated entry processing system for customs and some of the risk matters mentioned in the audit will be taken care of in an expanded system. The challenge in customs is to have the maximum simplification for business as time lost by businesses importing goods means an increase in costs for them. We must facilitate them to the greatest degree possible and allow trade to flow as our European partners are doing. At the same time we must profile risk areas like drugs importation. We have been very successful in identifying the characteristics of drugs consignments and in zoning in on them, but we need an enhanced system which we are designing. We recognise that there are some risks attached to some of the procedures and we have taken action in some of those areas. In some cases the risks are small, but we have taken note of the recommendations in the Comptroller and Auditor General's report and we will take them on board as much as we can, pending the new system and respecting EU regulations, which constrain us in some of what we do. We regard it as a very constructive audit.

Relevant contracts tax has been the subject of discussion by this committee before and is of great interest to its members. We can deal with some of our problems by integrating the relevant contracts tax into our mainstream integrated taxpayer processing computer system and we intend to do that. I hope we will achieve that next year. That will help with closer monitoring and a routine collection mechanism for relevant contracts tax.

At present, relevant contracts tax is collected outside the mainframe computer because it must be on a separate system. While this has given rise to some difficulties, at the same time the audit recognises that our own internal audit report, a Revenue initiative which is automatically made available to the Comptroller and Auditor General, was already identifying some of these issues. For example, our internal audit report also recommended checking for renewal of the C2s. We have implemented this.

In his audit, the Comptroller and Auditor General recognises the scale of the increase in the work of Revenue as a result of the boom in the building industry, for which I am grateful. He also recognises the positive steps taken by Revenue to target areas of risk, for example, identifying the 400 biggest payers and sitting on them every month to make sure we get the money and using the Revenue mobile service and intelligence work to identify people outside the net. The Comptroller and Auditor General recognises that Revenue is taking these actions and states that they are very positive.

Although the amount generated by this tax is significant, it pales into insignificance when one compares it to the amounts we have to collect on the mainstream taxes, namely, PAYE, VAT and corporation tax. Corporation tax now amounts to well over £3 billion. We must have a sense of proportion. We have, however, taken on board a number of the recommendations. Revenue regards this as a positive report which recognises what we are already doing.

Relevant contracts tax is quite an effective tax which, at 35%, is quite a high rate. If someone does not reclaim the tax and puts up with paying it, he or she is still paying a tax they might not otherwise have paid if the system was not in place. We are pleased with this report because it will help us to improve the operation of the relevant contracts tax. Our computerisation programme will help us improve it still further.

I want to briefly comment on the question of misclassification between subcontractors and PAYE workers. The committee has asked me about our arrangements in this respect before. It will be recalled that in 1997-98, we carried out a programme of audits to check on this. I can inform the committee - it is also mentioned in the report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - that we have started on a new round of audits of building sites. The programme is similar, though not exactly the same, to the previous one. It is too early to convey results to the committee. First, we visit the building sites to see where the areas of risk are, after which we will be returning to those sites, about which we have doubts about classification, to carry out further audits. Already we have identified some - not an enormous number - of misclassifications. We intend to complete the programme and hope to be able to report more fully to the committee in the not too distant future.

As a result of the additional resources we have received, we are putting more staff into the relevant contracts tax area to help cope with some of the increase in activity which has taken place.

My apologies for not being here earlier. I was chairing another meeting. It is nice to see you again, Mr. Quigley. In recent years contractors, that is, the various trades people have been required to exercise more discipline in order to receive the C2 form. This problem arose when it was introduced. Have you found that the trades people are becoming more compliant and better able to deal with the matter now, having had the time to do so? Has it resulted in many more people coming out of the black economy and operating on a legitimate basis in the past few years?

A number of contracts have recently been awarded to companies from outside the Twenty-six Counties, particularly contracts which must be advertised in the EU journals. When they are won by outside companies, they bring in labour. How does Revenue ensure that the same methods and scrutiny is adopted with regard to these companies, particularly their subcontractors and employees?

The integration of the RCT on the computer systems is a problem for the agents acting on behalf of the various persons or companies, that is, the subcontractors. What efforts are being made to try to quickly bring this integration up to date?

A number of FÁS employees were reputed to be about to receive back money because they had been wrongly classified and the amount deducted on PRSI was excessive. Does the Revenue have a function in relation to their misclassification as regards PRSI?

Mr. Quigley

Our experience is that the RCT system is good and is working reasonably well. When I was going around annual meetings of small firms I received many complaints that the RCT was a heavy system, particularly the position which pertained in the past whereby the director of a company had to show the C2 to every principal contractor. Small firms approached me and stated they could not do this because they were a one or two man outfit. Like every other taxation matter, it is a question of balance. We have to facilitate bona fide activity and simplify the administration of the system while at the same time guarding against abuse.

The Comptroller and Auditor General's report refers to our renewal en bloc of contracts at the end of the year where the contract is still current and an application is made by a principal contractor. It saves a huge amount of time and effort by subcontractors, which delights them, but it creates some risk of non-compliance. It is all about getting the right balance in the system.

We think the system is tight. We have to be conscious of some of the things the Comptroller and Auditor General has stated. While we know that the level of checking for reviews or annual renewals should be more comprehensive, we had to forego this a little in some areas where the pressure would have meant delaying the whole process. We have indicated we will track back and do the full check.

Relevant contracts tax is a very heavy tax. Because it is taken off the top, account is not taken of expenses or anything else, so it is quite onerous. Undoubtedly, it brings in money where there has been large-scale abuse under the lump system applied in previous years. We are quite happy with it, but we have to keep an eye on areas of abuse.

To answer the Deputy's question as honestly as I can, I do not think we could claim to have dealt with all the problems of the shadow or black economy. A partnership group in Revenue is looking at this and there are sectors of the shadow economy which still need to be examined to our satisfaction. We have a programme to do this. Better use of information is needed across the system to identify areas of abuse and go out and target them.

In the construction industry, we have a problem that was rife in the past under control. Having said that, I would like to see the outcome of the latest round of audits. So far, we are not witnessing enormous abuse. The number of visits so far - this programme only got going in August - was 142. The number of subcontractors on site at the start was 984 and the number of employees on site at the start was 2,998. The number of subcontractors considered to be employees was 65. That is in marked contrast to the thousands of which we talked previously, but I emphasise that the programme is at a partial stage.

The number of contractor positions accepted was 535 and the number of employees advised to make a change was 14. The number of cases revisited from the 1997 project was eight and the number of cases referred for further audit was 61. These figures offer a partial glimpse of a project that got under way in August and which has still not been completed. It is being done in a different way because it involves making visits, identifying risks and requesting a more in-depth audit rather than trying to do everything on the first visit.

At future meetings, I will be happy to report our progress and what emerges from it. The Comptroller and Auditor General's report recognised that this is a good tax and the administration pertaining thereto is adequate. Certain pressures have arisen because of the growth of the economy in recent years. Although we are happy about that growth, it has led to certain abuses that we may have to investigate.

To the best of my knowledge, foreign contractors are dealt with in the same way and are subject to the same system. The black economy monitoring group, which has representatives from ICTU, trade unions, ourselves and the employers, looked at the problems regarding Northern Ireland contractors a few years ago. We took steps to try to tighten up any loopholes and to have a better exchange of information with the UK authorities and so on.

Regarding unreconciled tax, we collect so much and then offset very significant amounts against other payments due, VAT or whatever. Then, as the committee noted previously, one is left with a residual. It is not claimed by anybody. There is a suggestion that some of these amounts are payments by foreign contractors who may just settle for paying the 35% and want to be done with it.

Computerisation is essential. We recognise this and hope to do it next year. We have to set our priorities and we cannot do everything. The Office of the Revenue Commissioners has been lucky that it has been able to manage despite the movement away of skilled staff, etc. We have kept a major programme of computerisation, with some outside consultancy. That programme has produced all the changes, the tax credits and the euro changes which we catered for as far back as 1999. We have done all those things, but we had to put some other projects on the back burner. We are now addressing those and the relevant contracts tax is very high on our list of priorities. It will be dealt with next year.

I am not aware that the Office of the Revenue Commissioners is responsible in any way for the misclassification of FÁS employees, which the Deputy mentioned. I heard about it in the media and I have not made inquiries about it. I think it was an issue that arose at the level of the employer.

In relation to customs and excise, I note that the Comptroller and Auditor General's report identified weaknesses in the system. Has any figure been put on what might have been lost in income to date?

Mr. Quigley

No.

Second, what control measures are being taken?

Mr. Quigley

I will take the questions in the order in which they were asked by the Deputy. There is no indication that there is any substantial loss of money - quite the opposite. In fact, the small number of cases the Comptroller and Auditor General identified in which goods had been taken out of a bonded warehouse without compliance with the full procedures, for example, has been checked by the Office of the Revenue Commissioners. There is no liability outstanding. In those cases, there would have been genuine errors. That is not to suggest that the procedures could not have been tighter.

We have taken on board, to the best of our ability, the suggestions that were made in advance of computerisation, which will deal with many of the problems that have been identified. Again, as I said to Deputy Ardagh, it is a question of balance. To make our traders competitive vis-à-vis their counterparts in other countries, we have to have a good customs system. I think we have. We must provide simplification and facilitation to allow them to trade and get goods moving with the minimum loss in terms of time, etc.

The way the Office of the Revenue Commissioners is proceeding with regard to all taxes, not just customs, is to de-emphasise the physical checks and increase the risk analysis by profiling to show something that is wrong - a shipment - and also post-factum, after goods are imported or after a transaction takes place, carry out an audit. Given the changes that took place with regard to the Single Market in 1993, the customs people have been doing their jobs in a different way, by profiling - look at their success with regard to cigarettes and drugs. Some 96 million smuggled cigarettes were detected last year by the efforts of customs officials by means of profiling consignments, whether from South Africa or wherever. Obtaining key characteristics and saying a particular consignment looks interesting this approach is successful.

We are doing the job in a different way. The Comptroller and Auditor General rightly identified some weaknesses that arise in this respect with which we are dealing. I have no indication that there is any significant loss of revenue, which would actually be customs money belonging to Brussels. It is not our money, but money owed to Brussels because it is part of the resources of the Community. I have no indication that there is any significant loss in that regard, but I would not like to sound complacent. I would like to learn from the excellent work that has been done in the audit.

It is worth complimenting customs officials because they appear to have been very successful in recent times in terms of locating huge cigarette hauls and drugs. We may see the evidence around Christmas. Usually, at this time, we see a lot of the contraband goods - cigarettes, drink and imitation designer clothes - appearing on the streets of our cities. It will be interesting to see what will be available this Christmas. Some express concern that this activity is probably leading to a downturn in legitimate jobs and that there is a black economy.

Mr. Quigley

There is a black economy undoubtedly, which is having a bad effect on business. We have to be conscious of this both in customs and the other areas of Revenue, collection and enforcement. We are not just getting the tax. In the interests of taxpayers, we should be trying to level the playing field.

I am grateful to hear comments relating to the customs officials. They have done significant professional work in Revenue. They are very much part of our organisation. They have adapted to the major changes that have taken place since 1993. The enforcement people do excellent work with regard to drugs and contraband goods, such as imitation designer clothes.

Additionally, the customs employees have adapted to doing new work. I was involved last week in the opening of our new offices in the new Custom House in Galway, situated on the historic site which dates back to the 13th century. The bulk of the work done by our customs people there is what we call new work. Vehicle registration was taken on by former customs officials. They are now integrated into our general service grading structure in the Revenue Commissioners. With regard to local collection work, we have a new string to our bow because these people know the local area. They are not operating from Limerick. They can visit a premises and bring back intelligence either for the Collector General or the Chief Inspector. I visited the office last week and 80% of the work is new. They have adapted, but at the same time are performing the additional role of protecting the community from drugs and protecting business from illegal imports and counterfeiting.

Thank you. The next meeting of the committee will be on 11 December to consider the annual report of the Comptroller and Auditor General's appropriation of accounts in the Department of Tourism, Sport and Recreation, Bord Fáilte and An Bord Pleanála.

The committee adjourned at 5 p.m. until 2 p.m. on Tuesday, 11 December 2001.
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