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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 21 Mar 1929

Vol. 28 No. 13

Constitution (Amendment No. 15) Bill, 1928—Third Stage.

The Dáil went into Committee.
SECTION 1.
The Constitution shall be and is hereby amended by the deletion of Article 52 now contained therein and the insertion in lieu of the said Article 52 of the following Article that is to say:—
"52. The Ministers who form the Executive Council shall include the President of the Council, the Vice-President of the Council, and the Minister in charge of the Department of Finance. The President of the Council, the Vice-President of the Council, and the Minister in charge of the Department of Finance shall be members of Dáil Eireann and all other members of the Executive Council shall be members of the Oireachtas."

I move:—

To delete all words from and including the words "The President," line 34, to and including the word "Oireachtas," line 39, and substitute the following words:—

"The President of the Council, the Vice-President of the Council, the Minister in charge of the Department of Finance, and the other members of the Executive Council shall be members of Dáil Eireann save that one of such other members may be a member of Seanad Eireann."

This is to carry out what I indicated on the Second Reading of the measure I approved of, namely, to remove the bar to appointing, if it were so desired, a member of the Seanad as a member of the Executive Council—one member only. This is permissive; it may not be exercised, but it simply removes the bar which has existed up to this, and it permits a member of the Seanad, if the Dáil so approves, to be a member of the Executive Council. In other words, it limits what was originally proposed. What was originally proposed was that at least three members of the Executive Council should be members of the Dáil. Now all the members must be members of the Dáil, but there is a provision, if ever it were so desired, allowing one member of the Seanad to be appointed a member of the Executive Council.

I am afraid that not even the modification which is proposed in this amendment to the Bill will induce us to support it. Like the cities mentioned in Bible history, the promise that the Executive Council cannot be diluted by more than one member of the Seanad will not stave off from them the wrath to come. I wonder, however, if the reason for the amendment is just what the President has mentioned. There were two objections to the Bill as it originally stood, (1) that it permitted a majority of the Executive Council to be composed of members of the Seanad, and (2) that it permitted a certain individual, who is neither a member of the Seanad nor the Dáil, to become a member of the Executive Council.

Well, a certain member of the Oireachtas who is neither a member of the Seanad nor the Dáil, and whom we thought it was intended to make Minister for Fisheries.

It might have happened if this amendment were not passed.

No, and it could not have happened in the other case either.

One can never be sure. However, it is quite obvious that by this amendment the danger, if there was a danger, has been removed. There can only now be one man, if this amendment is passed— and I think it is likely to be passed —in the Executive Council who is not a member of the Dáil. But why one? The President appeared to think that there was a strong reason for having members of the Seanad in the Executive Council, and in order to meet certain objections which had been raised it was merely necessary to reduce the number from the number proposed in the Bill to the number proposed in the amendment. But the President gave us no reason at all in support of the contention that there should be even one member of the Executive Council a member of the Seanad. It is true, of course, that on the Second Reading it was pointed out that should the Labour Party come into office they might find it a great advantange to include in their Executive Council a member of the Seanad. It might also be true that the Cumann na nGaedheal Party believe that the ability, vigour and virility of the Executive Council would be improved by having in it a certain member of the Seanad. One member of the Seanad has been induced to accept some portfolio. Who that member is has been worrying me all day. I cannot possibly think of a single member of the Seanad who deserves this promotion. There is a Senator—perhaps I would not be in order—

Absolutely not.

I was wondering whether the gentleman whom it was intended to promote came from Donegal. He is the only member of the Seanad who, in my opinion, has that style of oratory and that concise manner of putting a case in which the members of the Executive Council excel. I thought that that Senator whom I have possibly indicated was the person in mind. I would be very glad to be assured that that is not so.

Is the Deputy afraid of him?

Undoubtedly. We hope to make this Dáil of some use to the country, and it can only be made of use if we are to have serious debate on all questions that come before us. I do very strongly fear that if that particular Senator were added to the members of the Executive Council who delight in turning the Dáil into a bear garden, then the chances of serious constructive work being done here would be very considerably lessened. The Executive Council must have some person in mind when they actually go to the trouble of introducing a Bill to amend the Constitution, the fundamental law of the State, in order to permit one member of the Seanad to become a member of the Executive Council. They must have strong reasons for doing so. We know that they do not think much of the Constitution really, no matter what they may say during election times, and a mere amending Bill is a matter of no consequence to them. But even the expense of printing the Bill must have been considered before it was decided to introduce it.

Is there a single member of the Seanad whose inclusion in the Executive Council would justify the cost of printing this Bill? I cannot think of one. Perhaps the President would enlighten us on the point. Of course, I am now excluding from consideration the six just men to whom I already had occasion to make reference, like the cities in Bible history. But six just men do not redeem the Seanad. I think it is extremely unlikely that the Executive Council would be thinking of any one of these six individuals as a colleague in the Executive Council. It must be some one of the remaining fifty-four, and there is not a single one of the remaining fifty-four capable, in my opinion, of acting as a member of the Dáil, much less as a member of the Executive Council, although I will admit that it is possibly easier to get members of the Executive Council than it is to get members of the Dáil; the standard of knowledge and ability is not so high, and the entrance examination is possibly easier. I would like, however, to get the information as to whom the Executive Council have in mind. They come here, produce a Bill, and put that Bill before us, they ask us to pass it, and they succeed in getting it a Second Reading. Then they come to amend it—possibly they had the amendment in mind all the time—and we find that the whole purpose of the Bill is to enable one member of the Seanad to be brought into the Executive Council.

It would be much straighter, much fairer and better to say: "We think that Senator X., Senator Y or Senator Z is the man on whom the fate of the country depends. If we get him in as Minister for anything, or as Minister for everything, we will be able to solve all the problems that have heretofore baffled us." If that is the case let us know. If it is merely to provide for some possible contingency, the contingency that someone might be elected to the Seanad who was capable of acting in a ministerial office, I think this Bill is useless, and that it was only wasting the time of the Dáil to have brought it before us, because it is extremely likely that, by the time any vacancy will arise in the Executive Council to be filled, the Seanad will not be there at all. I read in last Sunday's edition of the "Independent" that there is likely to be a General Election this summer. If that should happen, we can see the end of the life of the Seanad; it disappears before the end of the year, in which case probably this Bill will have proved so much waste of energy. Not that very much energy was displayed, either in its introduction or in the manner of its presentation, because it was very listlessly placed before the House, as if the Executive Council was not enthusiastic about it, but then I can understand that the President cannot be enthusiastic about any of his colleagues. I would ask the President, as a matter of courtesy, to tell us what is behind this. There is obviously something behind it, and we would very much like to know what it is, if for no other reason than to satisfy our curiosity.

The President is not to be congratulated on the way in which he has handled this Bill to amend the Constitution. I quite agree with what Deputy Lemass has said, that the amending of the Constitution ought to be a serious matter and ought to be treated as such. I am afraid that this amendment—one of sixteen or seventeen—has not been so treated. The President put this Bill before us last week and said he would recommend it to the House as it stood. I think he said he would leave it to a free vote of the House. But the official Whips were put on for the Division, and of course that was a sign to all of his Party who had not heard his declaration that they had to follow him and that they should not worry about exercising their own judgment with regard to it. Listening to the President on that occasion, it struck me that he did not mind very much whether the Bill was defeated or not on the Second Reading. The House passed the Second Reading in the way that I have indicated, and now the President comes forward with this amendment. I was rather expecting the Chair to rule the amendment out as being contrary to the principle of the Bill.

I will hear a point of order from the Deputy on that matter now.

Mr. O'Connell

What is the principle of the measure?

It is unprincipled.

Mr. O'Connell

In the first section and in the long Title amendments are now sought, and therefore the principle of the Bill is to be completely changed. It is not the same Bill in principle, if it is amended, as we had before us on the Second Reading. I submit that these amendments are not in order because they change the whole principle of the measure.

Will the Deputy explain in what way the principle is altered?

The Deputy's point to me is that because the operative section of the Bill is amended, and the long Title is amended consequentially, the amendments are outside the principle of the Bill. I could not rule in his favour on that showing. If the Deputy would put to me a point of order to the effect that there is a particular principle in the Bill and that the amendments are contrary to that principle, then I would give a ruling.

It is suggested that the principle of the Bill is to permit members of the Oireachtas, other than members of the Dáil, to become members of the Executive Council. The amendments would confine it to members of the Seanad only.

Mr. O'Connell

I do not pretend that there is very much in my point. In the first measure there was no limit except that the first three officers mentioned should be members of the Dáil. The remainder could be members without any limitation. Now there is a limitation in the sense that only one member of the Seanad can be a member of the Executive Council.

There was a limitation in the Bill as read a Second Time, and the limitation is now being extended.

What about His Majesty?

That is merely a jocose point.

Mr. O'Connell

I would like to hear some explanation from the President in regard to this matter. He has repeated on several occasions that he thought there ought to be one member of the Seanad there.

Not at all.

Mr. O'Connell

He believed there ought to be permission given to have one there, and that it ought to be open to the President to appoint one.

That at least one member of the Seanad ought to be eligible for nomination.

Mr. O'Connell

Does the President mean that out of sixty members there should be only one eligible? Does he mean that he or some future President would like to have one member of the Seanad on the Executive Council? As Deputy Lemass has said, the President has not given us any reason why that should be so, or what particular advantage it would be to the administration of the nation's affairs. That is the kind of argument I would like to have heard from the President on the particular merits of this measure. As regards my own view, I believe that people who are on the Executive Council ought to be people who would submit themselves, or be forced to submit themselves, at stated periods, to the people for election. Otherwise we might have the position that there would be a Senator who would have a nine years' period of office, and he would be put into a position on the Executive Council, and possibly be given an unpleasant task as a member of the Executive Council, because he would not have to submit himself for election to the country for at least nine years. Possibly that is what the President has in mind. If it is not, I would like to hear from him what exactly he has in mind. My view is that every member of the Executive Council ought to be in the position of having to submit himself at stated periods for election; he should be obliged to go before the electorate and experience their approval or their disapproval of his actions as a Minister.

Do you object to the amendment?

It may be that instead of wanting to bring a member of the Seanad into the Executive Council they want to put a member of the Executive Council into the Seanad. It is possible there are certain members of the Executive Council, the Minister for Education, for example, who might like to get into the Seanad.

That point has only just occurred to the Deputy.

It just occurred to me now, as I looked across the House and noticed the Minister for Education there. It occurred to me there is a peculiar situation in Kerry and that the constituency there might not be considered very safe. One way out of the difficulty would be to put the Minister for Education into the Seanad instead of attempting the impossible task of finding someone in the Seanad fit for promotion to the Executive Council. The same would apply to other Ministers. Quite a number of them would be only too glad to get transferred to the Seanad.

That might be very desirable, but it is not in the amendment.

It is. The amendment is designed to ensure that while certain members of the Executive Council must be members of the Dáil, there shall be at least one member who may be a member of the Seanad.

There are members of the Executive Council in such a precarious position in their constituencies that they are very anxious to avoid the necessity of having to seek re-election.

Why do we limit it to one, then?

The purpose of the Bill is really to avoid seeking re-election.

Why is it limited to one, then?

I cannot say, unless there is some dissension in the Executive Council.

Or possibly there is a spirit of revolt in the Seanad at the prospect of seven members of the Executive Council being obtruded into that body. I think this Bill is an exemplification of the old adage that second thoughts are better. I suggest that possibly, in view of the amendment which the President has introduced, he might go further and say that succeeding thoughts might be best and, in view of the manner in which he has proposed to limit representation of the Seanad in the Executive Council, he might be disposed to withdraw the Bill. I listened to the speech of Deputy O'Connell and I must say that I did not appreciate altogether the force of it. I noticed that he was endeavouring to find some germ of principle in this Bill upon which he could base a point of order. All I have to say with regard to that is that not only this Bill, but the whole series of Bills which preceded it, are absolutely bad and devoid of principle. They are the very stultification of constitutional principle, if constitutional principle ever existed in the minds of the Executive Council. They are the outcome of a colossal bargain, something that was conceived in a dark corner, and the Principal Bills which have gone through have torn up the Constitution as it was originally put to the people of this country.

This Bill is no different from the others. I think it would require a microscope to see principle in this or any of the other Bills. I wonder what purpose the President has in mind in desiring to introduce a member of the Seanad into the Executive Council, because I take it that he is only preparing the way in this Bill for future action. I do not know. He, of course, knows the composition and the personalities of his own Executive Council best. He will therefore be able to tell the House, in attempting to bring in a Senator, whether he desires to temper it with wisdom or to vitiate it with folly. I cannot see that any member of the Seanad, with notable exceptions—those who, because of their own political principles, would not be included in the present Executive Council—could temper that body with wisdom, and I certainly cannot see that any Senator would vitiate it with folly, because its folly is at present all-sufficient. I say that because of what it has been doing during the past twelve months, and their repercussions on the electors, as Deputy Byrne reminded us last night, show us there is no limit to the political folly of the Executive Council.

Again I would like to stress the point, and I ask the President to justify his proposal to the House. As has been said by Deputy O'Connell, the members of the Seanad, are, on the whole, irresponsible people. Most of them, and particularly those who have been elected by the Government, are there because of the past services which they have rendered to a Party. We made an attempt, I must say, to galvanise the Seanad into life by the return of a number of Senators who would endeavour to serve the nation in the capacity we have enforced upon them. But I must say that we would not be responsible for this Bill; we would not have introduced a Bill of this sort. We do not believe that the Seanad should have any representation whatever in the Executive Council or should be in any way responsible for shaping the policy in the State, beyond such in fluence as they may exert in the course of discussions. We would like to know what is the purpose of the Government in making these persons, who are mainly, so far as the Government's actions in the Seanad are concerned, irresponsible superannuitants—

This is a Second Reading speech. What point is the Deputy making?

I am asking what is their purpose in trying to make one of these people responsible for shaping the policy of the country. I cannot see any justification for it. The members of the Seanad are irresponsible. They have never to come before the people to ask the people either to endorse or to reject the policy to which they have given shape. Therefore I submit that they have no title or right to sit in what is the High Council of the State.

I cannot see any reason for this amendment, or indeed for the Bill itself. It seems to me that the Executive Council has ample powers to put its views before the Seanad. If there is any limitation upon the powers of the Executive Council to send members to the Seanad to represent their views, it would be a different matter. If there is any obstacle in their way that would prevent them doing that, then there might be some reason for having a member of the Seanad on the Executive Council to represent the views of the Executive Council in the Seanad. But it seems to be an extraordinary insult to the dignity of this House to give the right to one who is not a member of this House to attend and to speak in this House. It seems to me to be a blow at the dignity of a representative assembly, at an assembly of the people elected by the people of Ireland, that someone should come into this House, have the power to address this House and take part in the proceedings—one who is not a member of the House. That is really a blow at representative institutions, such as they are. The only basis upon which we in this House stand is as representatives of the people, and the introduction of this measure is shaking the very basis of this House and the constitution of this House. It is introducing an element into it which is vitiating it and vitiating the whole principle of representative government. One is at a loss to know what is the reason of it.

As Deputy Lemass has pointed out, it is difficult to think that there is anybody in the Seanad who can add weight to the present Executive Council. We must search and see what is the reason. Is it a symptom of the growing power of a certain section in this country which has always been out of touch with the aims and aspirations of the Irish people? Is it a further development in the direction of a paralysis of the life of the country and a paralysis of its march towards nationality? I want to know these things. We are forced, much against our wills, to attribute evil motives—I do not like to attribute evil motives to anybody—we are forced to think that this is a development away from democracy and from the national aspirations of the people.

I think it is a grave insult to this House that any proposition of that kind should be put up here permitting anybody who is not a representative of the Irish people to address this House.

I have not got a copy of the Constitution with me. Might I ask the President a question? Is Deputy Little right when he says that if a member of the Seanad were a member of the Executive Council he would have a right to address the House?

There is a consequential amendment to that effect in the Bill.

Amendment 2 amends Article 57 of the Constitution. Now, Article 57 of the Constitution says that every Minister shall have the right to attend and be heard in Seanad Eireann. Amendment 2 amends that. If you refer back to the long Title of the Bill you will see: "and by making consequential provision in the Constitution as to the right of attendance and audience of Ministers at and in the Houses of the Oireachtas."

In that connection may I point out again that the House may appoint a Minister who is not a member of this House and who is not a member of the Seanad? The House may appoint such a person a Minister. Am I to understand if the House did that that they would not give him permission to address the House? The Constitution makes provision already for the House to take a step of that kind and to appoint a man as Minister who is neither a member of this House nor of the Seanad. The Deputy seems to forget that altogether. So far as this amendment is concerned we are discussing whether you will have the number in the Bill restricted to one.

Amendment put.
The Committee divided: Tá, 72; Níl, 43.

Tá.

  • Aird, William P.
  • Alton, Ernest Henry.
  • Anthony, Richard.
  • Beckett, James Walter.
  • Bennett, George Cecil.
  • Blythe, Ernest.
  • Brennan, Michael.
  • Brodrick, Seán.
  • Byrne, John Joseph.
  • Carey, Edmund.
  • Cassidy, Archie J.
  • Clancy, Patrick.
  • Coburn, James.
  • Collins-O'Driscoll, Mrs. Margt.
  • Connolly, Michael P.
  • Corish, Richard.
  • Cosgrave, William T.
  • Crowley, James.
  • Daly, John.
  • Davis, Michael.
  • De Loughrey, Peter.
  • Doyle, Peadar Seán.
  • Duggan, Edmund John.
  • Egan, Barry M.
  • Esmonde, Osmond Thos. Grattan.
  • Everett, James.
  • Fitzgerald, Desmond.
  • Good, John.
  • Gorey, Denis J.
  • Haslett, Alexander.
  • Hassett, John J.
  • Heffernan, Michael R.
  • Hennessy, Thomas.
  • Hennigan, John.
  • Henry, Mark.
  • Hogan, Patrick (Galway).
  • Holohan, Richard.
  • Jordan, Michael.
  • Kelly, Patrick Michael.
  • Law, Hugh Alexander.
  • Leonard, Patrick.
  • Lynch, Finian.
  • Mathews, Arthur Patrick.
  • McDonogh, Martin.
  • McFadden, Michael Og.
  • McGilligan, Patrick.
  • Mongan, Joseph W.
  • Mulcahy, Richard.
  • Murphy, James E.
  • Murphy, Timothy Joseph.
  • Nally, Martin Michael.
  • Nolan, John Thomas.
  • O'Connell, Richard.
  • O'Connell, Thomas J.
  • O'Connor, Bartholomew.
  • O'Donovan, Timothy Joseph.
  • O'Hanlon, John F.
  • O'Higgins, Thomas.
  • O'Leary, Daniel.
  • O'Mahony, Dermot Gun.
  • O'Reilly, John J.
  • O'Sullivan, John Marcus.
  • Reynolds, Patrick.
  • Roddy, Martin.
  • Shaw, Patrick W.
  • Sheehy, Timothy (West Cork).
  • Thrift, William Edward.
  • Tierney, Michael.
  • Vaughan, Daniel.
  • White, Vincent Joseph.
  • Wolfe, George.
  • Wolfe, Jasper Travers.

Níl.

  • Blaney, Neil.
  • Boland, Gerald.
  • Bourke, Daniel.
  • Brady, Seán.
  • Briscoe, Robert.
  • Buckley, Daniel.
  • Carty, Frank.
  • Clery, Michael.
  • Colbert, James.
  • Cooney, Eamon.
  • Corkery, Dan.
  • Corry, Martin John.
  • Crowley, Fred. Hugh.
  • Crowley, Tadhg.
  • Derrig, Thomas.
  • De Valera, Eamon.
  • Fahy, Frank.
  • Flinn, Hugo.
  • Fogarty, Andrew.
  • Gorry, Patrick J.
  • Goulding, John.
  • Hayes, Seán.
  • Jordan, Stephen.
  • Kerlin, Frank.
  • Killilea, Mark.
  • Kilroy, Michael.
  • Lemass, Seán F.
  • Little, Patrick John.
  • Maguire, Ben.
  • McEllistrim, Thomas.
  • MacEntee, Seán.
  • Moore, Séamus.
  • Mullins, Thomas.
  • O'Kelly, Seán T.
  • Powell, Thomas P.
  • Ruttledge, Patrick J.
  • Ryan, James.
  • Sexton, Martin.
  • Sheehy, Timothy (Tipp.).
  • Smith, Patrick.
  • Tubridy, John.
  • Walsh, Richard.
  • Ward, Francis C.
Tellers:—Tá: Deputies Duggan and P.S. Doyle; Níl: Deputies G. Boland and Clery.
Amendment declared carried.
Question—"That the section, as amended, stand part of the Bill"— put and agreed to.
Sections 2 and 3 agreed to.
TITLE.
An Act to amend the provisions of Article 52 of the Constitution requiring that the members of the Executive Council shall all be members of Dáil Eireann by providing that certain members of the Executive Council shall be members of Dáil Eireann and that the remainder shall be members of the Oireachtas and by making consequential provision in the Constitution as to the right of attendance and audience of Ministers at and in the Houses of the Oireachtas.
The following amendment was agreed to:—
In line 17, to delete the word "certain" and substitute the word "the," and in lines 18, 19 and 20, to delete the words "and that the remainder shall be members of the Oireachtas," and substitute the words "save that one may be a member of Seanad Eireann."
(The President).
Question—"That the Title, as amended, be the Title of the Bill"— put and agreed to.
Bill ordered to be reported with amendments.
The Dáil went out of Committee.
Bill reported with amendments.
FINAL STAGES.
Leave given to take the Final Stages of the Bill.
Question put: "That the Bill be received for final consideration."
The Dáil divided: Tá, 66; Níl, 50.

Tá.

  • Aird, William P.
  • Alton, Ernest Henry.
  • Beckett, James Walter.
  • Bennett, George Cecil.
  • Blythe, Ernest.
  • Brennan, Michael.
  • Brodrick, Seán.
  • Byrne, John Joseph.
  • Carey, Edmund.
  • Coburn, James.
  • Collins-O'Driscoll, Mrs. Margt.
  • Connolly, Michael P.
  • Cosgrave, William T.
  • Crowley, James.
  • Daly, John.
  • Davis, Michael.
  • De Loughrey, Peter.
  • Doyle, Peadar Seán.
  • Duggan, Edmund John.
  • Egan, Barry M.
  • Esmonde, Osmond Thos. Grattan.
  • Fitzgerald, Desmond.
  • Good, John.
  • Gorey, Denis J.
  • Haslett, Alexander.
  • Hassett, John J.
  • Heffernan, Michael R.
  • Hennessy, Thomas.
  • Hennigan, John.
  • Henry, Mark.
  • Hogan, Patrick (Galway).
  • Holohan, Richard.
  • Jordan, Michael.
  • Kelly, Patrick Michael.
  • Law, Hugh Alexander.
  • Leonard, Patrick.
  • Lynch, Finian.
  • Mathews, Arthur Patrick.
  • McDonogh, Martin.
  • McFadden, Michael Og.
  • McGilligan, Patrick.
  • Mongan, Joseph W.
  • Mulcahy, Richard.
  • Murphy, James E.
  • Nally, Martin Michael.
  • Nolan, John Thomas.
  • O'Connell, Richard.
  • O'Connor, Bartholomew.
  • O'Donovan, Timothy Joseph.
  • O'Hanlon, John F.
  • O'Higgins, Thomas.
  • O'Leary, Daniel.
  • O'Mahony, Dermot Gun.
  • O'Reilly, John J.
  • O'Sullivan, Gearoid.
  • O'Sullivan, John Marcus.
  • Reynolds, Patrick.
  • Roddy, Martin.
  • Shaw, Patrick W.
  • Sheehy, Timothy (West Cork).
  • Thrift, William Edward.
  • Tierney, Michael.
  • Vaughan, Daniel.
  • White, Vincent Joseph.
  • Wolfe, George.
  • Wolfe, Jasper Travers.

Níl.

  • Anthony, Richard.
  • Blaney, Neal.
  • Boland, Gerald.
  • Bourke, Daniel.
  • Brady, Seán.
  • Briscoe, Robert.
  • Buckley, Daniel.
  • Carty, Frank.
  • Crowley, Fred. Hugh.
  • Crowley, Tadhg.
  • Derrig, Thomas.
  • De Valera, Eamon.
  • Everett, James.
  • Fahy, Frank.
  • Flinn, Hugo.
  • Fogarty, Andrew.
  • Gorry, Patrick J.
  • Goulding, John.
  • Hayes, Seán.
  • Jordan, Stephen.
  • Kerlin, Frank.
  • Killilea, Mark.
  • Kilroy, Michael.
  • Lemass, Seán F.
  • Little, Patrick John.
  • Cassidy, Archie J.
  • Clancy, Patrick.
  • Clery, Michael.
  • Colbert, James.
  • Cooney, Eamon.
  • Corkery, Dan.
  • Corish, Richard.
  • Corry, Martin John.
  • Maguire, Ben.
  • McEllistrim, Thomas.
  • MacEntee, Seán.
  • Moore, Séamus.
  • Mullins, Thomas.
  • Murphy, Timothy Joseph.
  • O'Connell, Thomas J.
  • O'Kelly, Seán T.
  • Powell, Thomas P.
  • Ruttledge, Patrick J.
  • Ryan, James.
  • Sexton, Martin.
  • Sheehy, Timothy (Tipp.).
  • Smith, Patrick.
  • Tubridy, John.
  • Walsh, Richard.
  • Ward, Francis C.
Tellers:—Tá: Deputies Duggan and P.S. Doyle; Níl: Deputies G. Boland and Clery.
Question declared carried.
Question—"That the Bill do now pass"—put and agreed to.
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