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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 10 Nov 1932

Vol. 44 No. 11

In Committee on Finance. - Financial Resolution No. 4—Customs.

I move:—

(1) That the following amendments be made in the second column of the First Schedule to the Finance Act, 1932 (No. 20 of 1932), at reference number 14 in that Schedule, that is to say—

(a) in sub-paragraph (2) of paragraph (a), to delete the words "power loom," and in the same sub-paragraph to delete the words "one hundred and eighty" and insert in lieu thereof the words "two hundred and ten";

(b) to delete sub-paragraph (3) of paragraph (a);

(c) in paragraph (b), after the words "piece goods" where they first occur to insert the words and brackets "(other than printed union piece goods)";

(d) in clause (c) of sub-paragraph (1) of paragraph (e), to delete the words "power loom" and in the same clause to delete the words "one hundred and eighty" and insert in lieu thereof the words "two hundred and ten";

(e) to delete clause (d) of sub-paragraph (1) of paragraph (e);

(f) in sub-paragraph (1) of paragraph (e), to insert at the end of the sub-paragraph the clause "(f) tapestry table covers and chenille table covers."

(2) That the said First Schedule to the Finance Act, 1932, be further amended at the said reference number 14 as follows, that is to say—

(a) in the third column, by deleting the figures "25" wherever they occur in that column at the said reference number and inserting in lieu thereof in every case the figures "30";

(b) in the fourth column, by deleting the word "Free" wherever it occurs in that column at the said reference number and inserting in lieu thereof in every case the figures and sign "20%";

(c) in the said fourth column, by deleting the figures "15" wherever they occur in that column at the said reference number and inserting in lieu thereof in every case the figures "20";

(d) by inserting in the fifth column at the said reference number the following provision, that is to say—

"Any article liable to any of the duties mentioned at this reference number which is re-imported into Saorstát Eireann after exportation therefrom shall be exempt from such duty if it is shown to the satisfaction of the Revenue Commissioners that such article was manufactured in Saorstát Eireann and was exported from Saorstát Eireann for the purpose of undergoing outside Saorstát Eireann one or more of the following processes, that is to say—

bleaching, dyeing, printing, and finishing."

(3) That the amendments of the said First Schedule to the Finance Act, 1932, mentioned in the foregoing paragraphs of this Resolution shall have effect in respect of all articles imported into Saorstát Eireann on or after the 10th day of November, 1932.

(4) It is hereby declared that it is expedient in the public interest that this Resolution shall have statutory effect under the provisions of the Provisional Collection of Taxes Act, 1927 (No. 7 of 1927).

In the Finance Act of this year, duties were imposed upon certain linen and cotton goods. The duties upon piece goods were confined to such goods originating from countries not members of the British Commonwealth. There was a duty of 25 per cent. on such goods. It is now proposed to increase the 25 per cent. to 30 per cent. and to impose a 20 per cent. preferential rate, subject to certain minor exemptions where articles liable to any of the duties have to be reimported after exportation so long as it is shown to the satisfaction of the Revenue Commissioners that such articles were manufactured in Saorstát Eireann and were exported for the purpose of undergoing, outside the State, one or more of the following processes— bleaching, dyeing, printing and finishing. This provision has to do with certain home firms dealing with special lines which must be sent out of the country for these processes.

It would facilitate the members of this House, when discussing matters such as the matter now under review, if we had something more from the Minister than a kind of reference by enactment. We have here in paragraph (a) sub-paragraph (2), to delete the words "power loom" and the words "one hundred and eighty" and to insert the words "two hundred and ten." I challenge any member of this House, except of course the Minister immediately concerned, the Minister for Industry and Commerce—to let us know, if he can, what is meant by this sub-section. It is a sort of legislation by reference. I think it is due to every member of this House that we should be supplied with, or should get from the Minister, more information than is given in this typescript with which we have been supplied. I think the Minister should amplify his statement still further. I think he might have given us, in the ordinary sequence in which these things are mentioned in this typescript, which has just been handed to us a moment ago, a more detailed explanation. He might have taken things seriatim and told us what he meant by sub-head (a) first, and then go on to sub-head (b)—"to delete sub-paragraph (3) of paragraph (a)," and then to sub-head (c) and so on. That is so much Greek to every member of the House, because very few members have brought with them the Act mentioned in this Resolution No. 4.

It is the cause of a good deal of confusion and I do feel that it would obviate a lot of explanation on the part of the Minister concerned, should it be the Minister for Industry and Commerce, the Minister for Finance or the Minister for Agriculture, if some footnote were put to these Resolutions to indicate in what way previous Acts are attempted to be changed. Personally I want to know what is meant by sub-section (b), to delete sub-paragraph (3) of paragraph (a), because I have not the Act with me. Of course, I accept the position that we shall be able to discuss the matter at a future date. At the same time I feel that a Minister with any degree of responsibility at all might present the matter in a clearer way. I had the same fault, mind you, to find with the last Administration. I am not blaming the present Minister for Industry and Commerce any more than I blamed the last Minister for Industry and Commerce and his predecessors for causing a whole lot of confusion in matters of this kind. I want further to know from the Minister what he means by sub-section (a), which states: "In sub-paragraph (2) of paragraph (a) to delete the words ‘power loom' and in the same sub-paragraph to delete the words ‘one hundred and eighty' and insert in lieu thereof the words ‘two hundred and ten.'" I shall be quite satisfied when I have that explanation.

I have already explained to the Deputy that the Resolutions are formally moved at this stage and come before the House for report within ten sitting days within which period the Deputy can examine the Resolutions at his leisure and compare them with the original Act. I also explained to the Deputy that the Resolution takes off the free list certain cotton, linen and union piece goods which were hitherto not subject to duty when consigned from a Commonwealth country. In future, the duty will be levied irrespective of where these piece goods are consigned from, the full rate being 30 per cent. and the preferential rate 20 per cent. Paragraph (a) refers to Reference 14, sub-paragraph (2) of the Finance Act, which excluded from the duty all power loom damask linen piece goods exceeding one hundred and eighty threads per square inch.

The definition has been changed and it brings a slightly larger range of damask goods within the scope of the duty. This decision was arrived at after full consultation with all parties concerned and after we had satisfied ourselves that we had the machinery and equipment necessary for the manufacture of these goods here. I might also inform the Deputy that he will get full particulars in relation to this tariff in the report of the Tariff Commission which was published and which contained this recommendation.

Resolution No. 4 put and agreed to.
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