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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 21 Mar 1934

Vol. 51 No. 10

In Committee on Finance. - Adjournment Debate—Administration of Relief Grant

I asked the Minister a question to-day in connection with the employment grant for Mornington. I would not bring up this question on the adjournment if I did not know that there is, and has been for some time, a very unsatisfactory state of affairs with regard to the administration of the relief grant in Mornington, County Meath. At the outset, I should like to say that this is not a question of Party politics. The people in Morning ton from whom I received complaints were representative of all shades of political opinion.

It is necessary for me, with the permission of the Chair, to run briefly over the developments in Mornington in the past few years. The means of livelihood for nearly all the people in that district lie between mussel raising in the winter and salmon fishing in the spring and later. Some years ago when quite a brisk export trade was done in mussels between Mornington and Bristol, complaints were received from the public health authorities as to the pollution of the mussels. These complaints were investigated and were found in the main to be correct. On representations being made the Department of Fisheries considered the construction of a purifying tank and it was agreed that the tank should be at a place in Howth. I may say in passing that the purifying tank has not yet been completed.

At the same time a certain section of the Nanny waters was passed as being a suitable place to re-lay mussels lifted from the Boyne. The public health authorities agreed that this would suffice to satisfy the British public health authorities. This section of the river has been recently purchased by a man to whom I will refer as Mr. X. He is a conservator of fisheries. The purifying tank in Howth has not yet been constructed. Because of that delay the mussel fishers had no opportunity of rendering their mussels marketable and the only way in which they could dispose of them was by selling them to Mr. X. This made the mussel fishermen dependent for their livelihood upon a monopoly. They were confined to selling to Mr. X.

The economic war then started and the mussel industry was affected like every other industry. A heavy import duty was imposed on mussels and this brought about a state of affairs which led the Government to allocate a sum of £300 for the relief of unemployment in that district. This grant was allocated in 1932-33 and also in 1933-34. The foreman appointed to superintend the work and distribute the grant was Mr. X. The complaints that we are making now are not new. They have been going on for a number of years. These are the grievances of which they complain:—(1) that Mr. X. a fishery conservator, is the foreman in charge of the relief grant; (2) that Mr. X., doubtless a keen businessman, got a monopoly of this business of the mussel trade; (3) unfair discrimination has been used in taking on the men for the relief work to the partial exclusion of other men more entitled to the work. Examples are as follow:—(a) a man employed by the British and Irish Steamship Company gets work on the grant and is a relative of the foreman; (b) another relative who lives in Laytown, three miles away, has been employed on the grant; (c) another relative who works on the foreman's land and is employed as a carrier for him has been employed on this grant; (d) a brother-in-law of Mr. X. has also been employed on the relief grant in Mornington.

The work finishes each year about February 12th. Last year certain men were kept on for a further three weeks or more, and many of these were relatives of Mr. X., and some of the men while actually engaged in salmon fishing were working for a limited number of weeks on the grant. A memorial was signed by nine people and sent on to us. I investigated it, and my information is that there are several others affected who are unwilling to come forward for obvious reasons. The case has been made by the Minister that his inspector reported that four of them lived at Donnycarney; two others had relatives who got work on the relief scheme, and one was sorry he signed the memorial. The motive for the latter statement is quite obvious. My reason for raising the matter is because an injustice has been done. Even though the grant is over and finished with now. I suggest that it is necessary in the interests of justice that an inquiry should be instituted in order to ascertain the facts. If there is no truth in the memorial, which is extremely unlikely, Mr. X. will be vindicated, and I am ready to apologise to him for being led into a wrong attitude. I have no desire to cause trouble to anybody, but the situation has been represented to me in such a way that I had no alternative but to urge an investigation. I appeal to the Minister to institute an inquiry into these grants. As a last word I would ask him and urge on him to expedite the construction of the purifying tank at Howth.

Dr. Ryan

This scheme, as Deputy Davitt has said, was instituted in order to relieve distress among the mussel fishermen in that area whose livelihood as far as mussels was concerned was taken away from them on account of the disease that broke out there amongst the mussels. In passing, as Deputy Davitt referred to the tank, I hope that matter will be made right before next season comes along. I mentioned to-day in answer to the Deputy that with regard to those who signed the memorial which came to me, I sent down an inspector to examine the claims of these men. It did not appear that any of these nine men had any better claim than some of those employed. It is true that complaints were made against certain men who were employed. There were a brother and a brother-in-law of the foreman, and they were at the same time employed in unloading boats at Drogheda. I believe that to a certain extent they are casual labourers. It was stated to the inspector from my Department that the work was very casual and that the men would only earn about 10/- a week at that business. One of them had a wife and two children, and another a wife and three children. The inspector could not find any great objection to these men being employed by the foreman. The fact that a deserving person is a brother-in-law of the foreman should not necessarily debar him from employment. It should not, either, be used unduly in his favour.

There is another person mentioned in that memorial, as being only 15½ years of age, and that his brother is employed by the county council. In that particular case it was his father who was employed by the county council. The father lost his job and this boy is the eldest of a family of nine children so that the earnings of this boy went to maintain a man and wife and nine children. I know it did look peculiar that this boy should be taken on. In the case of the second brother it did appear to be unjustifiable, because he was employed on the farm and as a carter working for the foreman and he appeared to be in regular employment. He was taken on the job. From the reading of the inspector's report I could not say that the thing was justifiable.

I will have to ask the Deputy to realise that this report from the inspector reached me only a few days ago. It was certainly considerably delayed, and I had not time to go into that point. I would like very much to have that point further investigated, because the employment of this brother who was in the foreman's employment looks at least a little bit shady. I mean to have the case investigated further and, if the facts are in any way as stated by the Deputy, I think it would be only right that the Department should be told that this man should not be employed again as a foreman. I do appreciate the spirit in which the Deputy raised this question. I can quite see there was no capital to be made out of it from the point of view of the Deputy's credit in the constituency and I shall take every step to have the thing fully investigated. I will let the Deputy know the result of that investigation.

The Dáil adjourned at 10.43 p.m. until Thursday, 22nd March, at 3 p.m.

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