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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 13 Feb 1936

Vol. 60 No. 5

In Committee on Finance—Supplementary Estimates. - Vote No. 13—Civil Service Commission.

I move:—

Go ndeontar suim Bhreise ná raghaidh thar £900 chun íoctha an Mhuirir a thiocfaidh chun bheith iníoctha i rith na bliana dar críoch an 31adh lá de Mhárta, 1936 chun Tuarastail agus Costaisí Coimisiún na Stát-Sheirbhíse (Uimh. 5 de 1924 agus Uimh. 41 de 1926) agus an Choimisiúin um Cheapacháin Aitiúla (Uimh. 39 de 1926).

That a Supplementary sum not exceeding £900 be granted to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending 31st March, 1936, for the Salaries and Expenses of the Civil Service Commission (Nos. 5 of 1924, and 41 of 1926), and of the Local Appointments Commission (No. 39 of 1926).

This Vote arises out of the increased entries for the various competitive examinations held during the year by the Civil Service Commissioners. As an example, I may cite the cost of the examinations which were held during the period for clerical officers, junior executive officers, officers of Customs and Excise, post office learners and writing assistants. It was estimated that the total entries for these examinations would be 4,000, while, in fact, the actual entries were over 5,000. It was, of course, inevitable in cases where there had been such an increase in the number of candidates that there should be more or less a corresponding increase in the expenses of the examinations. It is to meet the increase in those expenses that this Supplementary Vote is introduced.

I take it that it is also true to say that we may expect the Civil Service Estimates to rise steadily as the personnel of the Civil Service rises. My mind goes back to the happy days when we were going to reduce the Civil Service by hundreds; when we were going to slash the salaries of men who were drawing inflated incomes; the days when Deputy Corry was going to relieve the burdens on the down-trodden farmers, burdens the weight of which was out of all proportion to the resources of the country. But since the day the Fianna Fáil Government got into office the personnel of the Civil Service has grown. It is growing and will grow and we have now to pass a Supplementary Estimate to provide added money to be devoted to recruiting still more numbers into the Civil Service. I think the Minister would be making a gesture if he would tell us by how many he managed to increase the Civil Service personnel since he took office. We have already spent £19,940 this year in sucking into the service of the State the hordes of people that the Minister requires to minister to his daily needs. Does not the Minister think that we ought to know something as to the value we are getting and how many did he manage to gather into the service by this Vote of over £20,000? Can the Minister give us any indication of what the increase will be during the coming year?

I think that most of the points Deputy Dillon has made would be more relevant when the main Estimates come to be discussed. It may be true that the cost of the Civil Service is increasing. At all events, the cost of one thing is going up and that is the cost of printing the Official Debates since Deputy Dillon became a member of the House.

That is scarcely relevant to the Supplementary Estimate for the Civil Service Commission.

Vote agreed to and ordered to be reported.

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