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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 15 Jul 1936

Vol. 63 No. 11

Committee on Finance. - Registration of Marriages Bill, 1936—Second Stage.

I move that the Bill be now read a Second Time. Much of what I had to say in connection with the Registration of Births and Deaths Bill applies to this Bill also. The Registration of Marriages Act of July 1863 availed for the purpose of the registration of Catholic marriages of the machinery already set up by the Act passed in April of that year for the registration of births and deaths. Whilst, however, the registrars of births and deaths were intended to be registrars of Catholic marriages also, this was not compulsory, and there are in fact at the present time some 12 districts in which the two posts are held by different persons. The fee for the registration of a Catholic marriage was fixed at 6d. as against the 1/- payable for each birth or death entry. It is now proposed to increase this fee to 1/-, and to provide for the payment, in addition, to each registrar of an allowance calculated at the rate of £2 per annum, both to be paid out of local funds. The extra annual cost to local funds would amount to about £320 under the first-mentioned heading and £1,280 under the second, or £1,600 in all, making, with the proposed increased cost of registration of births and deaths, a total increase of something over £6,700, or an average of about £200 per annum for each board of health.

This Bill applies to registrars of Catholic marriages only. Registrars of non-Catholic marriages are appointed under a separate Act and, apart from a rent allowance paid out of Central Funds, their emoluments consist wholly of fees payable by the public.

I might repeat the remarks that I made a few minutes ago in regard to a somewhat similar measure. I am glad that the Minister has thought fit to improve the salary of these registrars. He is proposing under the Bill to double the fee for the registration of marriages, and, in addition, to give an annual salary of 40/-. The number of marriages in the country appears to be steadily diminishing, so that a mere increase in the fee for registering a marriage would probably bring an extremely small increase in income to the registrar. It is satisfactory to know, however, that, apart from the number of marriages that will have to be registered, the registrar will in future get a safe square 40/- a year for performing this duty. It was encouraging to hear the Minister say that this measure marks a step forward and that the Dáil will always take account of any demand for increased remuneration. It is not, however, very encouraging if it is going to take 70 years to produce another step forward from 1/- to 1/6, as it has already taken 70 years to get this increase of from 6d. to 1/-, plus 40/-.

I cannot agree with the remark the Minister made a few minutes ago that the income of those who fulfil the duties of this office of registrar may be materially increased by other fees available to them for giving copies of entries on the register. At any rate, the amount must be extremely small. In recent statutes the amount for a statutory certificate has been fixed at 6d. and in most cases it is not the registrar but the superintendent registrar who will be called upon to issue copies of certificates. No doubt there are some cases in which a fee is payable to the registrar, but in most cases the certificate has to be obtained from the superintendent registrar. The statement that such incidental fees may materially increase the income of registrars seems to me to be a very rosy statement of a very poor fact.

Question put and agreed to. Bill read a Second Time. Committee Stage fixed for Tuesday, 21st July.
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