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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 29 Apr 1937

Vol. 66 No. 14

Committee on Finance. - Vote 14—Property Losses Compensation.

I move:—

Go ndeontar suim ná raghaidh thar £33,260 chun slánuithe na suime is gá chun íoctha an Mhuirir a thiocfaidh chun bheith iníoctha i rith na bliana dar críoch an 31adh lá de Mhárta, 1938, chun íocaíocht i dtaobh mille do díobháil do Mhaoin fé sna hAchtanna um Dhíobháil do Mhaoin (Cúiteamh), 1923 go 1933 agus ar shlite eile.

That a sum not exceeding £33,260 be granted to complete the sum necessary to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1938, for payments in respect of destruction of or injuries to Property, under the Damage to Property (Compensation) Acts, 1923 to 1933, and otherwise.

The Dáil is aware that provision is made in this Estimate for compensation for property losses of the kind covered by the Votes for previous years, but mainly for such losses as come within the scope of the Damage to Property (Compensation) (Amendment) Act, 1933. These losses, of course, include damage by British forces in certain circumstances between the 24th April, 1916, and the 20th January, 1919; damage generally between the 21st January, 1919—the day on which the First Dáil met—and the 11th July, 1921, the day of the Anglo-Irish Truce. It covers also the taking away of chattels in the period 21st January, 1919, to 28th June, 1922; damage generally and taking away by anti-Treaty forces of chattels between the 12th July, 1921, and the 12th May, 1923, and the unlawful taking away of chattels by official forces between the 1st February, 1922, and the 12th May, 1923. The amount asked for represents a decrease of £57,000 on the amount voted last year.

Would the Minister say if the House has seen the last of this Vote? Is there any necessity to make a further Estimate for another year? What is the Minister's opinion on the matter?

I think it is a rapidly-disappearing service.

It is evidently a rapidly-disappearing service, but can we say that we have finished with it? Was there any time-limit fixed for claims? Are they all decided or are they not?

There is a distinction between the question of decision and of payment. For instance, there is an item here in respect of a compensation award which was made in 1923 but which has not been paid yet. We anticipate that the condition attached to that award will be fulfilled and that the award itself will be fully discharged before the end of this year or during the coming year. Beyond that we cannot go.

Surely we shall eventually come to a period at which the Minister can get up and say: "Now we are finished with the war period; we can wipe out all these claims"?

Of course, but we are not prophets, you know.

I am not taking this matter as a joke at all. I am not asking the Minister to be a prophet, but as the Minister rightly pointed out, it is a dwindling service, and there is every reason to anticipate the end of it. I am asking the Minister if we are at the end of it, or if we may anticipate the end in the next 12 months? I think it is a reasonable question.

I cannot say in the next 12 months, but I should say in the succeeding 12.

There are new claims coming in still?

There is a number of claims which have to be investigated.

But they are all registered? There will be no more new ones?

There again, the courts have discretion in that matter.

There will be no new claims coming into the courts?

The courts may hear some more.

The courts are not limited by the Act then?

They are, but the High Court gave a certain decision which has modified what we thought would be the effect of the Act.

Vote put and agreed to.
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