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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 6 Mar 1941

Vol. 82 No. 2

Committee on Finance. - Vote 41—Local Government and Public Health.

I move:

Go ndeontar suim bhreise ná raghaidh thar £10 chun íoctha an Mhuirir a thiocfaidh chun bheith iníoctha i rith na bliana dar críoch an 31adh lá de Mhárta, 1941, chun Tuarastail agus Costaisí Oifig an Aire Riaghaltais Aiteamhail agus Sláinte Poiblidhe, agus seirbhísí áirithe atá fé riaradh na hOifige sin, ar a n-áirmhítear Deontaisí agus Costaisí eile i dtaobh Tógáil Tithe, Deontaisí d'Udaráis áitiúla, Ildeontaisí Ilghnéitheacha agus Ildeontaisí-i-gCabhair, agus muirearacha áirithe mar gheall ar Ospidéil.

That a supplementary sum not exceeding £10 be granted to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending 31st March, 1941, for the Salaries and Expenses of the Office of the Minister for Local Government and Public Health, and of certain services administered by that Office, including Grants and other Expenses in connection with Housing, Grants to Local Authorities, sundry Miscellaneous Grants and Grants-in-Aid, and certain charges connected with Hospitals.

This Vote arises from representations made by the residents of the Aran Islands. Owing to the excessive heat last summer, the potatoes got burned and softened and only half the crop of potatoes which would be suitable for table use was obtained. On these representations being made, the matter was investigated by inspectors of the Department of Agriculture and inspectors of my Department and the statements made by the residents were borne out. The Department of Agriculture are in a position to supply seed potatoes at something like 2/- per cwt., but this Vote is necessary in order to enable them to supply something like 170 tons of table potatoes at 2/- per cwt., that is, on the same conditions as the Department of Agriculture supply seed potatoes.

The purchase of the potatoes would cost, I think, about £6 per ton in Galway, and the islanders would pay at the rate of £2 per ton. On the report that we received from the inspectors, and on the representations made by the residents, the supplies of table potatoes would have been exhausted at the end of February. It was to meet that that the Minister for Finance allowed us to provide for a sum of roughly £750.

I would like to ask the Minister one or two questions concerning potatoes. I do not know whether he may be in a position to give me the information I want or not. I am informed that, up to the present, potatoes are being exported from this country—both seed potatoes and ware potatoes. I wonder if that is true; if it is, it seems to be a very serious matter, and that we are likely to find ourselves in a position similar to that we are in regarding butter.

It is well known that, as a result of the shortage of foodstuffs for live stock, farmers are feeding potatoes to their live stock to a far greater extent than ever before. Not only that, but the Minister and the Government have appealed to people in the country to use potatoes to a greater extent than usual for human consumption, so as to save flour. If we have far greater consumption for live stock, a certain increase in human consumption and in export, all side by side, we are going to be short, not only of table potatoes but of potatoes for seed purposes. I can only give the information that has been given to me. I am not certain whether the information about exports at the present time is true or not, but I think it is a matter which ought to be looked into immediately.

As one of those who appealed to the Government in connection with the situation in the Aran Islands, arising out of the abnormally dry season last year, I should like to express appreciation of the fact that the Government has come to the assistance of the people there and to say that I am very pleased that the potatoes are going out at a most appropriate time, that is, about the same time as the seed potatoes. There would be great danger, if the seed potatoes had gone first, and these eating potatoes were sent on later, that the seed potatoes would be eaten. It is an extraordinary fact that the Aran Islands produce very good potatatoes. They are good, too, on the main land of Connemara and last year there was an excellent crop there. The potato crop is one of the staple items of food in the Aran Islands. They usually have a good crop of them, a good supply of milk and a good supply of fish. Of these three things the principal is potatoes and this year there has been a serious shortage. Up to the present, the situation was not very serious, but it would have been from now on. The Government has acted at the right time and the people will be very satisfied as a result of that action.

I would like to ask the Minister if he is aware that potatoes are being sent across the Border into the Six Counties, from County Monaghan. I should like to ask the Minister for Local Government and the Minister for Supplies if they are aware that that is taking place.

I should like to take this opportunity of the discussion on seed potatoes to correct the statement made by the Minister for Local Government in the House last night. He said there were two counties which did not adopt the seed scheme—Donegal and Sligo. He was misinformed as regards Donegal, as they have a seed scheme there.

They put it in after turning it down first, but I am glad they have it.

Did the Minister say 170 tons at £6?

I said about 170 tons.

Is there freight also?

Is that inclusive?

I am not sure. It will cost the islanders only £2 per ton, inclusive of freight. The only question that was raised is that regarding the export of potatoes. That is a matter which would have to be taken up the Minister for Agriculture. I could not say if there are exports or not.

The Minister for Supplies may have something to say.

Mr. Morrissey

I raised the point, as it was the only opportunity. As I say, the information has been given to me and I believe it is sufficiently important to have it investigated immediately. It would be unfair to expect the Minister for Local Government to be able to answer the question, but it should be inquired into.

Is it the export of seed potatoes?

Yes, and ware potatoes also. Even the question of seed potatoes, according to my information, should be inquired into, as I am told there is a likelihood of a shortage of them. In certain parts of the country at the moment there is not a sufficient quantity of seed potatoes, although it is still very early in the season.

The question does not strictly arise on this Estimate at all.

The price of potatoes generally has gone up by 2d per stone this week.

That could not be brought in on this Estimate.

Vote agreed to and reported.

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