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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 1 Apr 1954

Vol. 145 No. 4

Committee on Finance. - Adjournment Debate—Income-Tax on Nurses' Allowances.

Mr. O'Higgins

In Question No. 13 on to-day's Order Paper I raised the question of the position of county hospital nurses in Portlaoise. The problem is, of course, a general one and I raised it conscious of the fact that the Minister for Health himself, and he has responsibility to this House for the pay, conditions and general regulations relating to nurses, would not stand over the grievance dealt with in this question.

It appears that some time ago the organisation representing county nurses, both lay and religious, entered into an agreement with the Minister in relation to their terms and conditions of pay. Up to that time nurses in county hospitals were paid a basic salary, not very much, which was intended to provide for them something over and above their board, lodging, uniform and other matters of that kind.

Let us assume that the basic salary was £x: they were then entitled to free board and lodging, uniform and certain other emoluments. As a result of the agreement entered into with the Minister, board, lodging, uniform and the other emoluments were valued for the first time. Let us assume they were valued at £y. Nurses were then paid a gross salary of £x plus £y, but the £y was naturally never paid to them and was retained, as it always had been, by the local authorities and nurses continued to receive merely their basic salary.

So far as the ordinary nurses were concerned, they felt that things were very much the same. They still got their basic salary; they still got their board and lodging and they still got their uniform. However, things were not the same because this year an income-tax assessment has been raised on every one of them, both lay and religious, on the gross salary calculated in agreement with the Minister. Accordingly, they were assessed for tax and were taxed in respect of income which they never received.

I said, in effect, in the question which I put down to the Minister that this liability for tax was completely unexpected by them. The Minister said that it was discussed with the staff organisation. I am sure that is so, but so far as the ordinary nurses are concerned I repeat that not one of them contemplated for one minute that the change in the basis of their pay would mean that they would be made liable for tax on the value of the emoluments which they have always received. The position now is—I want to bring this to the notice of the Minister in the hope that he will see the justice of what I am saying—that a young probationer nurse in, say, the county hospital of Portlaoise or in any of the other county hospitals who is paid say—I do not know the scales— something around £150 per year or £3 per week, and sends some of it home, is left with about £2 per week for whatever pleasures a young nurse may look forward to. I know of one case where a young nurse does that. In the case of that particular probationer nurse there is now a tax assessment on her which she cannot possibly meet. The injustice, of course, arises in a more marked degree in the case of the older nurses who are paid a slightly higher basic salary. They have been assessed for tax this year for a lump sum of round about £25 or £30 which they cannot pay.

I suggest to the Minister that he should reconsider the whole matter. It is obvious that whatever slight improvement has come to the nurses in regard to their conditions and pay is being neutralised by the imposition of this tax on them. I am quite certain that the local authorities throughout the country would co-operate with the Minister if he suggested that this tax liability should be borne by each of the local authorities. I was hopeful that the Minister for Finance might be able to deal with this matter as a legislative proposal in the new Finance Bill. I know that is not a matter over which the Minister for Health can exercise any responsibility. It is a matter however, that I am sure the Minister is aware of, and the fact is that it is important. This liability for tax does not arise because of any clear section in the Income-Tax Act. It arises because of a tax case decision some years ago. The decision in that tax case did not appear, certainly before it was made, to cover the intention of the Income-Tax Act of 1918, but it is now case law and, as it applies to these nurses, it is causing quite considerable hardship.

I would urge the Minister to reconsider the whole matter in conjunction with the local authorities involved. If he would do so, I am quite certain that some reasonable scheme could be adopted whereby these unfortunate girls would not be asked to meet quite a large liability in tax at the end of the year. They have no fund out of which to provide for it. The imposition of the tax works a very considerable hardship on them.

Early in 1952 an agreement was made with the staffs of hospitals generally. It did not cover all of them. Under that agreement, we departed from the system that had been in operation up to that time, when nurses got so much by way of cash and so much in perquisites. In that way, their income was made up. The new agreement, made in 1952, laid down salary scales under which deductions are made for those living in. It was made very plain, I think, to everyone at that time that, on the whole, the staffs would benefit by the new arrangement, even allowing for the payment of income-tax. I have here a letter which was received from the Irish Nurses' Organisation. It says that:—

"On 5th June we submitted draft of the Minister's proposed salary scales for all grades to a private session at our annual general meeting on 11th June, and there was general approval of the scales suggested for the matrons and nursing staffs of the local authority hospitals."

There was a table set out which was freely used in these negotiations to enable the people on both sides to realise what was being done. I propose to take an example of a staff nurse in a hospital. By the way, the Deputy made a slip in referring to probationer nurses. There are no probationer nurses here. A staff nurse of more than four years' service—the Deputy mentioned to-day a salary of £380, which would appear to identify a nurse of more than four years' service—had prior to this agreement £142 per year. She had a bonus of £42, which made a cash income of £184, less £15 payable for superannuation. Therefore, she actually received in cash £169. She had, of course, free board and lodging, as well as the £169. The new agreement laid down that that nurse of four years' service would get £350 in cash, and from that would be deducted for emoluments received in kind, £125; superannuation, £17, and income-tax, £20. The income-tax was based on the assumption that she was a single girl. That was her annual earned income and the amount of tax payable was £20. These total deductions from the £350 gave her £188. Therefore, after paying income-tax, she had £188 as compared with £169 before. Since then, of course, bonuses have been added. A nurse of four or five years' service would now have £380 in cash on account of bonus which was recently added.

Mr. O'Higgins

Does the income-tax come out of that?

The income-tax would go up accordingly. If the income-tax went up by £4 or £5 it would mean she would now have some £26 more than she had before which would bring the amount up to £314.

Mr. O'Higgins

It appears to be £19 more than she had.

In the case of mental nurses, a Deputy might be able to pick out an individual who is perhaps £1 or £2 worse off than she would have been under the old agreement but the unions we were negotiating with found that in smoothing out the scale nobody suffered a reduction under the new arrangement of more than £1 or £2 in the year. On the other hand, there were much more substantial advances in certain cases and the unions concerned, those representing the mental hospital attendants and those representing the nurses, were agreeable to the arrangement in the end. They thought it was a fair way of meeting the case. I read out the letter from the Nurses' Union, in which they accepted it.

They were easily satisfied.

I can tell the Deputy they were by no means easily satisfied.

They settled at a low figure.

At any rate there is this to be said, the unions representing these people did accept and I think the Deputy will agree that the unions are no great fools in accepting arrangements of this kind. Since then I must say I have found no complaints from those who accepted this arrangement. It may be as the Deputy pointed out that an individual nurse may spend her money as she gets it and when she gets a bill for income-tax she may find it hard to meet it. There are many in the same boat apart from nurses but I am afraid we cannot help that. The local authorities have paid more on the whole to nurses than they were paying before and they paid, in fact, enough to enable them to meet their income-tax bill. I think it would be very unfair to ask the local authority and the ratepayers, having compensated them already for income-tax, to pay the income-tax for them. Therefore, I must decline to make any promise whatever to the Deputy that I will take this matter up.

Mr. O'Higgins

If the staff organisation takes up the matter with the Minister I presume he will go into it with them?

If the organisation comes forward we will talk to them all right but I am afraid I would be pointing out the same thing as I pointed out to the Deputy.

The Dáil adjourned at 5.55 p.m. until 3 p.m. on Wednesday, April 21st, 1954.

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