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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 9 Feb 1972

Vol. 258 No. 10

Private Members' Business. - Dangerous Drugs Bill, 1971: First Stage (Resumed).

Debate resumed on the following motion:
That leave be granted to introduce a Bill entitled an Act to make further and better provision to control the distribution and manufacture of certain drugs and to provide for related matters.
—(Deputy Dr. Byrne.)

Everybody knows that unfortunately the problem of drug taking is increasing and has assumed frightening proportions. We believe that adequate legislation and adequate treatment facilities are lacking to deal with this really urgent problem. There appears to be no indication whatever that this trend will not continue at an even faster rate. The Bill provides for the imposition of a maximum of 15 years imprisonment on drug pushers. This is similar to the legislation under which that type of person is dealt with in other countries. The Bill also provides that addicts can be treated compulsorily. It also seeks to deter people from manufacturing these drugs on their premises.

The Minister for Health and his Department have had the report from the working party on drug abuse before them for practically 12 months. During that time little has been done about it. The report makes suggestions which I believe should be discussed in this House. In moving this Bill and giving the House an opportunity of discussing it, we are also providing an opportunity for discussing the report of the working party on drug abuse. In our opinion the control of drugs is urgently necessary. The House should also discuss how we should deal with drug pushers. I believe that parents throughout the country, and all those who are closely associated with the drug problem, will thank this House if we give it our immediate attention and give them some help and hope for the children of Ireland in the future.

This Bill provides for a maximum of 15 years penal servitude for anyone caught illegally selling for a consideration any of the substances outlined in the Bill. One of the possible defects is that there is no graded scale of penalties in accordance with the report of the working party on drug abuse, brought out last year. We feel that this is an important interim measure. Any amendments which are found necessary to the 15 years penal servitude provision can be brought in at a later date.

We drafted and moved the Bill because the problem of drug abuse has escalated considerably over the past number of years. It is not sufficient for this problem to be dealt with solely by the Minister for Health. On 30th July, 1970, on an adjournment debate, as reported at column 2867 of the Official Report, the Minister said:

The Deputy knows perfectly well that I and the health authorities have taken every possible step to deal with drug addiction here.

At that stage I did not know perfectly well and I still do not know perfectly well that they have done everything possible. The only step taken since 1934 when the Dangerous Drugs Act was passed was the introduction of section 78 of the 1970 Health Act which provided for a fine not exceeding £100 or imprisonment for any term not exceeding six months. This section, also, by definition, included the drug LSD which up to that date had not been included at all and which we know is one of the most widely abused of all drugs in this city.

We would like to say further that under this Bill it should be an offence for anybody to allow his premises to be used for the manufacture of drugs or knowingly to allow peddling to take place on his premises and on conviction he should be sentenced to penal servitude of seven years or have to pay a fine of £500. The Garda Síochána drug squad can obtain a search warrant under subsection (5) of section 78 of the 1970 Health Act, which refers back to section 31 of the 1934 Health Act, but a justice of the District Court must be asked by a chief superintendent of the Garda Síochána to sign the search warrant. It is almost impossible to obtain a search warrant late at night when men of such high standing have got to be obtained, particularly at the weekend. We should make easier provision for obtaining search warrants.

I also want to quote the Minister from the Dáil Debates of 30th July, 1970, when he said:

I shall do my best in this matter but there is no crisis situation in regard to drug addiction in this country and I hope there will not be a crisis. It is no use for a Deputy to get up in this House and make these statements without providing the evidence.

I would like to state that the evidence was provided 12 months ago by the working party on drug abuse when they brought in their report. We feel very strongly about this and we certainly denounce the Minister for Health for playing party politics by not allowing this Bill to be introduced sooner, to appear on the Statute Book and then be amended as desirable in accordance with the wishes of the working party on drug abuse.

I would like to say that we support the publication of this Private Members' Bill because we think the drug problem is a serious problem and any measures within reason that can be taken to control this serious menace are desirable. Secondly, we would like to see it published because we cannot accept the excuse from the Minister for Health that he intends to bring in his own legislation. The right of this House to bring in a Private Members' Bill, to have the First Stage accepted, and allow the Bill to be published should be granted. We support the Bill for that basic reason alone.

The stated purpose of the Bill is to make further and better provision to control the distribution and manufacture of certain drugs and to provide for related matters. The general scheme of a Bill to provide additional measures for the control of drug abuse and to amend the Dangerous Drugs Act, 1934, was approved by the Government on 9th November, 1971. The provision of the legislation will be comprehensive and will enable extensive and improved controls over the manufacture, distribution, possession, et cetera, of drugs to be implemented.

The relevant recommendations from the working party on drug abuse have been fully taken into account in framing the scheme of legislation. The drafting of this Bill in accordance with the scheme approved by the Government is in an advanced stage and the introduction of the legislation will not be long delayed. In the circumstances, and having regard to the more comprehensive nature of the legislation proposed, in the context of the overall problem of drug abuse, there would be little point in proceeding with the Bill on the lines proposed by Deputies Byrne and Barry. When the Government legislation comes before the House Deputies will have every opportunity of raising any points on which they feel the legislation does not measure up to requirements. They can mention these points and make comparison between this Private Members' Bill and the actual Bill when introduced. Any amendments which Deputies may wish to suggest at the appropriate Stage of the passage of the Bill will be considered on their merits and not in any spirit. I hope, of party conflict because I do not think the Bill will have a party content. In all the circumstances I propose that the House should not give its consent to the First Reading of this Bill.

Question put.
The Dáil divided: Tá, 55; Níl, 66.

  • Barry, Peter.
  • Barry, Richard.
  • Belton, Luke.
  • Belton, Paddy,
  • Browne, Noel.
  • Bruton, John.
  • Burke, Joan.
  • Burke, Liam.
  • Burton, Philip.
  • Byrne, Hugh.
  • Clinton, Mark A.
  • Cluskey, Frank.
  • Collins, Edward.
  • Coogan, Fintan.
  • Cooney, Patrick M.
  • Harte, Patrick D.
  • Hogan, Patrick.
  • Hogan O'Higgins, Brigid.
  • Kavanagh, Liam.
  • Keating, Justin.
  • L'Estrange, Gerald.
  • McLaughlin, Joseph.
  • McMahon, Lawrence.
  • Malone, Patrick.
  • Murphy, Michael P.
  • O'Connell, John F.
  • O'Donnell, Tom.
  • O'Donovan, John.
  • Corish, Brendan.
  • Cott, Gerard.
  • Creed, Donal.
  • Crotty, Kieran.
  • Cruise-O'Brien, Conor.
  • Desmond, Barry.
  • Dockrell, Henry P.
  • Dockrell, Maurice E.
  • Donegan, Patrick S.
  • Enright, Thomas W.
  • FitzGerald, Garret.
  • Fitzpatrick, Tom (Cavan).
  • Flanagan, Oliver J.
  • Fox, Billy.
  • Governey, Desmond.
  • O'Hara, Thomas.
  • O'Higgins, Thomas F.
  • O'Leary, Michael.
  • O'Reilly, Paddy.
  • O'Sullivan, John L.
  • Pattison, Séamus.
  • Ryan, Richie.
  • Taylor, Francis.
  • Thornley, David.
  • Timmins, Godfrey.
  • Treacy, Seán.
  • Tully, James.

Níl

  • Allen, Lorcan.
  • Andrews, David.
  • Barrett, Sylvester.
  • Blaney, Neil.
  • Brady, Philip A.
  • Brennan, Joseph.
  • Brennan, Paudge.
  • Briscoe, Ben.
  • Brosnan, Seán.
  • Browne, Patrick.
  • Browne, Seán.
  • Burke, Patrick J.
  • Carter, Frank.
  • Carty, Michael.
  • Childers, Erskine.
  • Colley, George.
  • Collins, Gerard.
  • Connolly, Gerard C.
  • Cowen, Bernard.
  • Cronin, Jerry.
  • Crowley, Flor.
  • Cunningham, Liam.
  • Davern, Noel.
  • Delap, Patrick.
  • de Valera, Vivion.
  • Dowling, Joe.
  • Fahey, Jackie.
  • Faulkner, Pádraig.
  • Fitzpatrick, Tom (Dublin Central).
  • Foley, Desmond.
  • Forde, Paddy.
  • French, Seán.
  • Gallagher, James.
  • Geoghegan, John.
  • Gibbons, Hugh.
  • Gibbons, James.
  • Gogan, Richard P.
  • Haughey, Charles.
  • Healy, Augustine A.
  • Herbert, Michael.
  • Hillery, Patrick J.
  • Hilliard, Michael.
  • Hussey, Thomas.
  • Kenneally, William.
  • Kitt, Michael F.
  • Lalor, Patrick J.
  • Lemass, Noel T.
  • Lenihan, Brian.
  • Loughnane, William A.
  • Lynch, Celia.
  • Lynch, John.
  • McEllistrim, Thomas.
  • MacSharry, Ray.
  • Meaney, Thomas.
  • Molloy, Robert.
  • Moore, Seán.
  • Nolan, Thomas.
  • Noonan, Michael.
  • O'Connor, Timothy.
  • O'Kennedy, Michael.
  • O'Leary, John.
  • Power, Patrick.
  • Smith, Michael.
  • Timmons, Eugene.
  • Tunney, Jim.
  • Wyse, Pearse.
Tellers: Tá, Deputies Byrne and Cott; Níl, Deputies Andrews and Meaney.
Question declared lost.
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