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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 28 Mar 1973

Vol. 265 No. 2

Committee on Finance. - Vote 50: Remuneration.

I move:

That a supplementary sum not exceeding £111,800 be granted to defray the charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1973, for Remuneration.

This Supplementary Estimate is required to meet the cost of pay increases on four Votes. The Votes concerned and the amount required for each Vote are set out in Part 3 of the Supplementary Estimate. They are the President's Establishment, the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General, the Courts and the National Gallery. The amounts required are necessary to meet the cost of the second phase of the 13th Round increase and for some other increases for individual grades. Under the second phase of the 13th Round the pay of civil servants was increased by 4 per cent plus 63p per week as from 1st January, 1973. This increase was in accordance with the terms agreed at the Employer-Labour Conference on 21st December, 1970. The terms of this agreement were applied in the Civil Service to grades below assistant secretary level, following negotiations with the staff. The estimates for the present year have not made provision for the second phase of the 13th Round but the budget included a reserve for possible public service increases. Increases for individual grades have arisen following arbitration board findings and the number of settlements based largely on these findings. The amount sought in this Estimate are the cost of pay increases on the Votes mentioned, offset by savings on the Votes where such savings were available.

In other Votes similar pay increases are either being met out of savings or are being included as a separate item in Supplementary Estimates for the Votes concerned.

I do not know whether it is relevant or whether it is covered in this Supplementary Estimate, but if it is I would like to know whether the Minister could give some indication of the Government's thinking in relation to the senior civil servants and others whose salaries were the subject of the Devlin Report and what line the Government intend to take in regard to those?

I do not think the question which Deputy Colley raises is, in fact, relevant to this particular Estimate. I would also point out to the Deputy that there are questions already tabled on this matter which will fall for reply in the ordinary course. I do not think it would be fair to the Deputies were I to anticipate the replies.

Can the Minister assure me that there is no provision in this Supplementary Estimate in relation to the civil servants of the kind I have mentioned?

I can assure the Deputy that the implementation of the Devlin Report does not fall for consideration under this Estimate——

That is not the question.

——for the very simple reason that these Estimates refer to the work of the previous Government. The Deputy is well aware that he himself shied off taking any decision on that particular issue.

Oh, yes with a multitude of other embarrassing, awkward or even difficult decisions. The Minister left them all there for his successor to deal with but they will be dealt with in due course.

Is it is not the position that the report of the Employer-Labour Conference was received almost at Christmas and that the Dáil did not reassemble before the election so that it was impossible to introduce legislation which would have been necessary to deal with that report? Is that not a fact?

I do not believe the Minister's fingerprints would be found on it even if he were to call in the Special Branch to find them because, like most other things the Minister left it untouched.

It would seem that the Minister has not been doing very much work in his office if he has not got round to that yet but when he does he will find that it is all cut and dried and ready-made for him.

I have seen the document and it was untouched by human hand until it got into mine.

Question put and agreed to.
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