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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 28 Mar 1973

Vol. 265 No. 2

Committee on Finance. - Vote 27: Office of the Minister for Education.

I move:

That a supplementary sum not exceeding £272,000 be granted to defray the charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1973, for the salaries and expenses of the Office of the Minister for Education (including Institutions of Science and Art), for certain miscellaneous educational and cultural services and for payment of sundry grants-in-aid.

The original Estimates for my Department totalled £96,708,000. Supplementary Estimates totalling £10,086,000 are now required. The greater part of these Supplementary Estimates, that is, £7,450,000 is due to increased salaries and wages arising out of conciliation agreements and provision for the second phase of the 13th round of the National Wage Agreement made after the Estimates for 1972-73 had been prepared. Furthermore, the Supplementary Estimates provide for the additional £1,000,000 capital made available in the latter half of the financial year for the purpose of creating extra employment. A sum of £500,000 is also provided with a view to reducing the accumulated deficits of the universities.

The Supplementary Estimates are made up as follows:—

Vote 27—Office of the Minister for Education

£272,000

Vote 28—Primary Education

£4,125,000

Vote 29—Secondary Education

£1,958,000

Vote 30—Vocational Education

£1,984,000

Vote 32—Universities and Colleges

£1,747,000

Vote 27: The items which require additional funds are:

A.2.

Travelling and Incidental Expenses

£

21,000

A.5.

Grants to Bord an Choláiste Náisiúnta Ealaíne is Deartha

£

47,500

A.6.

National Council for Educational Awards

£

25,800

D.2.

Grants to Colleges providing courses in Irish

£

8,500

D.3.

Transport services

£

285,000

F.1.

Purchase of specimens (grants-in-aid)

£

14,200

Grants to Rosc Teoranta.

£

20,000

The increased provision in subhead A.2 covers additional expenditure on travelling as well as the cost of my Department's participation in the scientific and technical exhibition recently organised by the Royal Dublin Society.

The extra money required under subhead A.5 arises out of salary and wage increases due to the 13th round, as well as the increased cost of materials. The £25,800 in A.6 is a new provision to cover the general expenses of the National Council for Educational Awards established after the commencement of the financial year, while the increase under subhead D.2 is necessary because of the provision of a special course for training college students.

The extra money required under subhead D.3 for school transport is due to increased wages to part-time drivers arising out of a Labour Court award made after the Estimates had been prepared, as well as the fact that transport costs rose to an extent greater than anticipated.

The money required under subhead F.1 is to cover the purchase price of a gold coin issued by the Duke of Ormond in 1641, while the grant to Rosc Teoranta is to enable Rose to clear off outstanding accounts remaining as a result of the 1971 Art exhibition.

The total additional requirements in Vote 27 is offset to the extent of £150,000 by anticipated savings in a number of other subheads of the Vote.

In Vote 28, £3,548,000 of the extra money is required to meet increased salaries in national schools. The increased provision in subhead A.1 over increased salaries as well as capital provision of £320,000 for the extension and modernisation of the training colleges. An additional £58,000 is also required under subhead A.2 for grants and loans to students in training colleges. The increase under subhead A.3 is necessary because of the attendance of teachers on special courses being greater than anticipated. The increased provision of £40,000 under subhead C.5 is to meet the cost of grants for the painting of national schools.

The extra £150,000 in Vote 29, A.3 is required to clear the backlog of cases awaiting grants for furnishing and equipping special subject rooms. The increase of £1,800,000 in subhead B is due to increased salaries to secondary teachers. The money required in subhead C is to cover the increased cost of examiners and superintendents due to the number taking the certificate examinations being greater than anticipated, while the provision of £90,000 in subhead J.1 is to meet the extra salary costs of teachers. In subhead K it is necessary to provide an additional £27,000 for grants towards the cost of free school books for necessitous pupils.

The total additional requirement in Vote 29 is offset by £90,000 in increased receipts from refunds of portion of capital savings in subhead L.—Appropriations-in-Aid — and by anticipated savings in a number of subheads amounting to £170,000.

In Vote 30, £1,670,000 is being provided in subhead A for the annual grants to vocational education committees to meet the commitment for the increased cost of salaries to vocational education teachers and to enable them to meet other increased charges. In subhead B an additional £90,000 is necessary to meet the increased costs, including salaries, of the special training courses for teachers as well as to meet deficits incurred in recent years by the training colleges of home economics. An extra £6,000 is required in subhead F to meet the extra costs of examinations arising from the extra numbers taking these examinations. An additional £68,000 is required for the extra cost of teachers' salaries in the regional technical colleges as well as a capital provision of £150,000 for the building of these colleges.

In Vote 32, £1,227,000 of the additional provision is for increased salaries and wages as well as to defray part of the accumulated deficits of UCD., UCC., UCG., Trinity College, the Dublin Dental Hospital and the College of Pharmacy. Provision is also being made for additional capital expenditure of £650,000 in the case of University College, Galway, and of £80,000 in the case of the College of Physical Education in Limerick. These extra provisions are offset to the amount of £210,000 by anticipated savings in other provisions in Vote 32.

In connection with the submission of these Supplementary Estimates it may be of interest to the House to learn that programmed budgeting has been fully implemented in my Department. I think it speaks well for our progress that recently we had a visit from EEC representatives in order that they might learn something from us preparatory to the development of programmed budgeting in their Budget Bureau.

Ba mhaith liom í dtús ama comhgháirdeachas pearsanta a ghabháil leis an tAire úr. Tá súil agam go n-éireoidh go bréagh leis. Tuigfidh sé nach dtig liom comhgháirdeachas polaitiúil a ghabháil leis.

I am very pleased that this very substantial sum of money, more than £10 million, be provided by means of Supplementary Estimates for additional services in the current year. These Supplementary Estimates were prepared, of course, under my direction and they represent an increase of some 11 per cent on the unprecedently high provision of almost £97 million contained in the main Estimate for the services for which the Minister for Education is responsible. I do not feel called on to comment in detail on the various items in these Supplementary Estimates. Taken together, they are a further indication of the Fianna Fáil Government's commitment in the field of education.

May I comment on the policy of this Department as directed by the previous Government —I take it I am permitted to refer to all the Supplementary Estimates from Nos. 27 to 32? What I have to say affects my city particularly and it concerns the proliferation of prefabricated structures as schoolrooms throughout the country. They are offensive and do not conform to the standards required by private citizens under planning law. I should like to see a change in this policy so that we shall see decent schoolrooms. In this connection I make particular reference to vocational schools and I particularly refer the Minister to such schools in my city. They are being built up on the lines of wartime military camps and a number of people are beginning to growl about it. It is time for a change in this policy.

The Minister referred to additional NCEA awards and I should like to ask him if any decision has been taken by him or by the Department as to the location of the headquarters of this body.

Would the Minister please explain one item? In his brief he referred to the money required under subhead F.I. to cover the purchase price of a gold coin issued by the Duke of Ormond in 1641. If we look at the subhead in the book of Estimates we will see that it refers to "purchase of specimen" and the amount is given as £14,200. Was the entire sum of £14,200 spent on this gold coin or was something else purchased?

Mr. R. Burke

Ba mhaith liom i dtosach báire buíochas a ghabháil leis an Teachta Faulkner as ucht comhgháirdeachas a dhéanamh liom.

With regard to Deputy Coogan's point about prefabs, I will bear his views in mind when I come to study the question of primary school buildings. The Deputy will appreciate that it is early days yet and I have not had an opportunity to examine these things in detail. With regard to the question concerning the NCEA headquarters, I have not yet made a decision. I am sure the Deputy will be anxious that the headquarters will be located in his particular area and I will bear this in mind when making my decision. With regard to the Duke of Ormond coin, I understand that all the money in the subhead refers to that. It must be a valuable one. I wish to thank the House for the way in which they have received the Supplementary Estimate.

Question put and agreed to.
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