Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 24 Jul 1973

Vol. 267 No. 10

Written Answers. - Department of Defence Civilian Employees.

255.

Mr. B. Desmond

asked the Minister for Defence the basic rates of pay, wage adjustment and overtime rates of non-craftsmen civilian employees of his Department in the form of a reply of 4th February, 1969.

Minister for Defence (Mr. Donegan)

The following is the information requested in so far as rates of pay are concerned. Wage adjustments have been made, or are in the course of being made, from the appropriate dates, for the various categories of civilian employees concerned in accordance with the terms of the "13th Round" and "14th Round" National Agreements.

(1)	(2)	(3)	(4)
Category	Existing Basic Weekly Rate of Pay	Operative Date	Wage Adjustments Pending
†Classes paid Building Trade Labourers' rate or a differential over that rate:
Dublin City	£24.36 per week			0p per week + Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/7/73
Dublin County	£23.58,,,,
Curragh Training Camp	£23.40,,,,
Kildare Town and Nass	£22.72,,,,
Cork City	£24.36,,,,
Ballincollig, Haulbowline		1/1/73
and Cork Harbour Forts
Limerick and Knockalisheen	£24.16,,,,
Galway	£23.44,,,,
Gormanston	£23.80,,,,
Kilkenny	£23.74,,,,
Coolmoney Camp	£23.56,,,,
Mullingar and Athlone
Finner Camp	£23.10,,,,		1/1/73
Tralee	£23.38,,,,
Bere Island
Fermoy and Kilworth	£23.24,,,,
†Employees whose pay is varied in accordance with adjustments in Building Trade rates but who are paid less than Building Labourers:
Pioneer (Dublin City)	£23.57 per week			10p per week + Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/7/73
Pioneer (Cork City)	£23.32,,,,
Pioneer (Limerick City)	£23.10,,,,
Sacristan	£22.57,,,,		1/1/73
Caretaker (Arbour Hill)	£22.15,,,,
Labourer (Medical Corps)	£23.28,,,,
Helper (Medical Corps)	£23.57,,,,
†Naval Dockyard (Shipbuilding) Employees:				10p per week + Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/7/73
Riggers	£25.91 per week
Trades Helper	£25.26,,,,		1/1/73
Labourer and grades paid a differential over Labourers' rate	£24.83,,,,
†Labourer (Barrack Services Workshops)	£22.38 per week		1/1/73	10p per week + Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/7/73
†Crew Members:
3rd Engineers	£27.72 per week			10p per week + Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/7/73
Leading Stockers	£26.06,,		1/1/73
Seamen	£24.56,,
†Carter, Kilworth	£24.07,,		1/1/73	,,
Watchmen, Haulbowline	£24.37,,		1/7/73	Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/6/74
*Road and Sanitary Supervisor, Curragh	£27.41,,			£1.12 per week from 1/7/73
*Road Labourers, Curragh	£21.36,,		7/5/73
*Labourer, Cavalry Corps, Curragh	£21.58,,
†Pioneers (other than in Dublin, Cork and Limerick cities):
Curragh Training Camp	£21.26,,		7/5/73	£1.12 per week from 1/7/73
Naas and Kildare
Ballincollig and Fermoy	£20.99,,		1/7/73	10p per week + Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/7/73
Haulbowline and Spike Island	£21.23,,
Gormanston	£22.61,,		1/7/73
Kilkenny	£23.54,,		1/7/73
Athlone	£24.24,,		1/7/73	Second Phase “14th Round”
Mullingar	£23.04,,		1/7/73	from 1/6/74
Galway	£24.39,,		1/7/73
Clonmel	£23.51,,		1/7/73
The above employees are paid the rates applicable to Roadworkers employed by the County Councils in the areas concerned except in Athlone, Clonmel and the Cobh area where they are related for pay purposes to the local Urban Council or Corporation labourers.
Caretakers (other than Arbour Hill):
Magazine Fort	£23.85 per week		1/7/73	Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/6/74
Ballincollig	£23.66,,
Waterford, Dundalk and Dún Ui Mheachair	£23.56,,
Cavan, Wexford, Fort Duncannon, Dún Teampaill Bríde, Nenagh, Knockalisheen, Carnagh, Castlebar	£23.30,,
Herds:
Glen of Imaal	£23.40 per week		1/7/73	Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/6/74
Land Stewards:
Baldonnel	£24.34,,
Kilworth Camp	£23.40,,
Head Bailiff, Curragh	£27.67,,
Under Bailiffs, Curragh	£24.44,,
Rangerwardens:
Ticknock	£23.82,,		1/7/73	Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/6/74
Kilbride, Kilpeddar, Cahir, Kinsale, Youghal, Dundalk, Three Castles and Templemore	£23.40,,
Tralee and Oranmore	£23.04,,
Carnagh	£23.30,,
Curragh Training Camp	£21.83,,		7/5/73	£1.12 per week from 1/7/73
Chefs:
Dublin, Baldonnel and Curragh	£25.61 per week		1/7/73	Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/6/74
Athlone	£24.07,,		1/7/73
Cork and Limerick	£22.20,,		23/3/73	20p per week + First Phase “14th Round” from 23/7/73.
Waiters:
Dublin City	£24.03 (boarded) per week		1/7/73	Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/6/74.
Baldonnel and Curragh	£24.70,,,,		,,
Athlone	£22.85,,,,		,,
Cork	£20.09,,,,£19.78 (boarded ,,and accommodated)		23/3/73	20p per week + First Phase “14th Round” from 23/7/73.
Hospital Domestic Staff:
(1) St. Bricins:
Female Cook	£19.87 per week		1/3/73	10p per week from 1/7/73 and Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/3/74.
Maids and Wardsmaids	£19.37,,
(2) Curragh:
Female Cooks	£18.43 to £19.01 per week		1/1/73	10p per week + First Phase “14th Round” from 1/6/73.
Maids	£18.10,,
Wardsmaids	£17.89,,
(3) Cork:
Wardsmaids	£16.87 to £17.65 per week		1/4/73	First Phase “14th Round” from 1/4/73.
Dark Room Attendant, St. Bricin's Hospital	£24.83 per week		1/1/73	10p per week from 1/7/73 and Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/1/74.
Classes whose pay is adjusted in accordance with increases granted in the Civil Service:
*Messengers	£25.48 to £27.25 per week		1/7/73	Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/6/74.
*Clerks Gr. II Dublin	£27.61 to £31.10,,
*,, ,, II elsewhere	£26.63 to £30.47,,
*,, ,, III Dublin	£22.62 to £29.90,,
*,, ,, III elsewhere	£22.15 to £29.33,,
*Typists	£19.87 to £22.31,,
*Shorthand Typists and Clerk Typists	£20.70 to £23.51,,
*Costing Clerks	£32.80 ,,
*Estimating and Costing Clerks	£33.52 ,,
*Draughtsmen	£25.43 to £34.97 (over 23 years)£22.31 to £25.43 (under 23,,)	per wk,,
*Female Cleaners	£19.66 per week
Bath House Attendants:
Dublin and Cork	£20.02 per week		1/7/73	Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/6/74
Curragh, Limerick, Athlone and Kilkenny	£19.76,,
Telephone Operators:
Dublin	£27.21 (over 21 years) per week		1/7/73	Second Phase “14th Round” from 1/6/74
	£26.21 (under 21,,),,
Kildare	£27.47 per week
Curragh	£24.39,,
Haulbowline	£26.89,,

NOTES : In addition to the basic weekly wages shown—

(i) Service Pay (25p to £1.00—men: 20p to 80p—women) is payable to all classes except those marked *;

(ii) a differential of 35p per week is payable, after 6 months' service to the classes marked †.

Overtime Rates

Overtime rates of non-craftsmen civilian employees in so far as the rates can readily be supplied are as indicated in reply to question No. 174 of 4th February, 1969, with the exception of clerical classes. In the latter case overtime rates were revised as follows, with effect from 1st April 1972, for authorised extra attendance in the normal working week—

First 6½ hours Rate plus one quarter

Next 6 hours Rate plus one half

Thereafter Double rate

A revision of overtime rates, for employees paid the Building Trade Labourers' rate, and allied classes, is at present under consideration.