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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 6 Apr 1976

Vol. 289 No. 7

Private Members' Business: Tourist Industry: Motion.

I move:

That Dáil Éireann deplores those actions of the Government which have reduced the competitiveness of the Irish tourist industry and recommends that subventions necessary to restore competitiveness be provided.

We decided to table this motion because of the serious position in which the tourist industry is at the moment. It is the third largest industry in the country after agriculture and the manufacturing industry. Not alone is it a large industry but it is a very specialised type of industry which can have an effect on the economy far greater than the total value of the takings from the industry would indicate. I propose to examine the industry now in the light of the various price changes that have taken place, in the light of the tax impositions and tax extensions in recent times which have resulted in adversely affecting the competitiveness of the industry.

In order to examine properly the damage done to the industry by the January budget we must look at the position of the industry immediately prior to the budget and consider how it had been faring up to that point. The earnings of the industry in 1975 were estimated at £162.3 million. If that figure is related to GNP for 1975 the return from tourism does not seem very great but that narrow view would not be a full or fair assessment of the industry. Tourism is an invisible import-export industry and the earnings from tourism are of advantage from the point of view of an economy suffering from a serious balance of payments problem. The earnings from tourism also have a multiplier impact since the money passes from person to person, resulting in additional personal income, additional savings and additional revenue to the Exchequer. The regional impact is important because there is a more equitable distribution of wealth. For these reasons the total value of tourism is above and beyond the £162.3 million estimated earnings for 1975.

It must be borne in mind that the 1975 figures are the figures for an industry suffering a recession. The potential of the industry on a return to more normal conditions is bound to be much greater than the present return or than the percentage of gross national product. The contribution to GNP is just over 4 per cent. There is a great danger—indeed, there is evidence—that the value of tourism is being measured in an oversimplified fashion and judging the significance of the contribution in that way greatly under-rates the real and immense value of the industry to the country and to the economy. The tourist industry, unlike the bulk of our manufacturing industry, utilises raw materials produced within the country. The earnings from tourism filter through the economy in a dramatic fashion. They are equivalent, in fact, to a spending power of an additional 150,000 home consumers.

Some people believe that the vast bulk of the earnings from tourism go to hotels, restaurants and so on. That is not so. The benefits of tourism are spread right throughout the whole community. It is calculated that approximately 10 per cent of the jobs in banking and insurance result from tourism, that 20,000 jobs in the wholesale and retail trade are provided by tourism, 4,000 jobs in the entertainment business, 7,000 in the clothing and textile industry and some 2,000 jobs in the drink and tobacco industries.

On the agricultural side the tourist industry consumes some 2½ million gallons of milk, 36 million eggs, 2,000 tons of butter, 6,000 tons of meat, 15,000 tons of vegetables. Those are considerable amounts of agricultural produce and they show quite clearly that tourism has a very dramatic effect on the economy as a whole. Another important aspect of tourism is that it is an export industry because it deals in foreign currency and it thereby enables the Irish economy to run a larger balance of trade deficit than would otherwise be feasible. Tourist revenue, though declining, still makes up 10 per cent of foreign earnings and it permits our imports to be financed and a higher level of consumption of foreign products.

Another important impact tourism can have on the economy is that of job creation. It is a labour intensive industry. It employs in the region of 118,000 creating employment for approximately 10 per cent of our total labour force. Without tourism the Irish manufacturing section would be much smaller than it is. It can easily be seen from this that it is an industry affecting all of us. As the third largest industry it deserves the attention and assistance befitting an industry of its size.

In the past three years Bord Fáilte's promotional budgets have shrunk steadily in real terms and that at a time when competing countries are increasing their allocations. We are not keeping pace with these countries. We are not keeping pace with inflation. It is the height of foolishness to allow the promotional budget to decline at a time when our economy is so dependent on this industry. Curtailment of expenditure is not in the national interest. Instead of allowing the budget to shrink Bord Fáilte should be given additional finance and a greater impetus to enable that body to go out and fight competitively for our share of the market. Our share has dropped and it is no answer at this stage to allow tourist promotional budgets to shrink.

Coming to the recent budget, the first thing we notice is the Government's compete lack of understanding about the tourist industry. It could only be a total lack of understanding of tourism that made the Government decide to increase value-added tax and the other elements which affect the tourist industry. The recent increases in VAT, tobacco, petrol, drink, car-hire and hotel services will undoubtedly have a dramatic effect on tourist expenditure. In particular, it will affect Britain, which is our key market. In the British budget today they increased petrol by only 1p per gallon and on luxury items VAT has been decreased. When petrol was increased by 15p in 1974, we were told that it was to ensure that Northerners would not come across the Border to buy petrol here. We made the case at the time that because of security that would not be so. It was not so, and now the boot is on the other foot. Following the British budget, I hope the Government and the Minister concerned will take a hard look at our petrol prices and do something about decreasing that 15p.

The tourist industry will only progress if no serious obstacles are put in its path. After the boom time of the 1960s tourism suffered a severe setback, particularly in the last three or four years, and this was clearly seen in the high percentage of hotels that went out of business in the last two years and the general slackness in hotels. When that setback was coupled with adverse conditions in all sectors of the economy, the major part of which was clearly due to Government mishandling, it was obvious that the tourist industry required special consideration if it was to return quickly to the level of progress that had been made in the 1960s.

In spite of difficult conditions and the lack of Government leadership and planning, the tourist industry, by 1st January, 1976, was showing some slight signs of moving forward. The various interests in the tourist industry took heart and planned a major effort so as to get the maximum benefit from the better trading conditions that appeared to lie ahead. Although recession conditions prevailed on 1st January there was certainly light at the other end of the tunnel.

In no business or enterprise can it be more accurately said that the customer is always right than in the tourist industry. People in Britain, Germany, France and other countries have a wide range of choice when they are contemplating a holiday abroad. The only way we can ensure that a worth-while number of those potential holiday makers will decide to come to Ireland is by making a holiday in Ireland enjoyable and good value for money. The Minister for Finance and most of his Cabinet colleagues have talked a great deal in recent months about the need to keep our manufacturing industries competitive. Workers have been warned of the dire consequences if they insist on wage increases to fully offset the increases caused by inflation. Yet we have hardly had a mention from the Government side of the House of the equally present need to ensure the competitiveness of the tourist industry.

When a recession hits a wide section of people in any country holidays are cut down and in some cases cut out altogether. The essentials of life must be paid for, and, therefore, expenditure on holidays is likely to be the first thing to suffer. A country such as ours offering holiday facilities must, in such circumstances, ensure that charges are attractive, and, in particular, no action should be taken that would worsen that situation.

A short time ago Bord Fáilte produced a tourist development plan consisting of nine volumes. The plan is a very detailed and comprehensive set of documents, but it is only so much wastepaper if we cannot keep our prices competitive and give value for the money spent by the tourists. Last Sunday one of the papers set out the Government's 14-point plan, No. 12 of which stated:

The Government will carry out a new dynamic development programme for tourism to enable the industry to overcome its present difficulties and to get back on the road to progress.

Far from doing anything to overcome the difficulties of the tourist industry, the Government made difficulties for tourism, first, by their inept handling of the economy, and, secondly, by those savage and ill-judged increases in the budget of January, 1976.

I want to examine the effect of that budget on the tourist industry. In the circumstances that existed it was reasonable to expect that the Minister would have taken action to help the competitiveness of one of our major industries or, if circumstances forced him to increase costs for the industry, that he would have provided subventions to ease the burden. Had the Minister set out to harm the tourist industry he could hardly have taken more effective action than he took.

In present difficult conditions it is not easy to get tourists to come here. The ill-judged actions of the budget have made our position more difficult. The Minister placed many travel agents and hoteliers in a very difficult position because they had to either renege on their commitments to people who booked accommodation with them or run their businesses at a loss. Some carriers, such as Aer Lingus and CIE, are semi-State bodies but the remainder are private companies. Because tourism is basically a private enterprise industry, it has suffered at the hands of the Government, as has the rest of the private sector.

The chairman of Córas Tráchtála spelt that out very bluntly some days ago. In The Irish Press of 30th March, 1976, I read:

A wide-ranging attack on the Government's fiscal policy was delivered yesterday by Mr. Colm Barnes, chairman of Córas Tráchtála, the State export board, who said that it was time for the Government to demonstrate political conviction to integrate the economic and social strategies that will once again make Ireland a land of opportunity....

They see the present political climate in Ireland as hostile to business. This is a sad and serious state. Mr. Barnes, who is also chairman of Glen Abbey and the Northern Bank Finance Corporation, said that the business community saw fiscal legislation as destroying their recovery prospects.

A good example of the difficulties facing tourists coming to Ireland in sufficient numbers in present economic circumstances is the poor return to Aer Lingus for their low-cost fare schemes. They introduced this scheme especially for emigrants. In The Irish Press of the same day I read that

...the scheduled return fare from London to Dublin will rise to £53, London to Cork £62 and London to Shannon £64. Aer Lingus has a comprehensive list of reduced prices for certain types of travellers to Ireland which in view of soaring air fares should be doing better....

The service is available at £32.50, no more than the return second class rail boat fare.

Mr. Kelly, speaking for Aer Lingus, said they might have to reduce the individual services where there is no response. He said there was no point taking off with only a few people on board. That will give some idea of the competitiveness of the industry.

I will now look at other headings in the budget which created difficulties for tourists. The first is the increase in the price of drink. There has been a great deal of discussion in recent months about the high consumption of alcohol in Ireland. When the Minister applied those huge increases to beer, wine and spirits, many people reacted at first by saying that drink was a luxury. It may be classed as a luxury for our own people, but as far as tourists are concerned, drink is not a luxury. It is as much a part of their holiday package as food. If we are to sell this country as a tourist centre we must accept these facts. If the price of drink is increased by heavy taxation this will be a major step towards pricing ourselves out of the tourist market. The increases applied in the budget of January, 1976, and the VAT increases applied on 1st March, 1976, have dealt a body blow to tourism, the licensed trade and the Exchequer returns. These increases were ill-judged and created serious problems for the trade. If they had been halved, they would have yielded the same amount to the Exchequer. The expected increases to the Exchequer, which did not come about, will be felt by the Minister and the country.

The annual report of the Dublin Licensed Vintners' Association, circulated on 30th March, claims that there has been a 40 per cent fall in takings in the licensed trade since the increases in drink prices. They also expect a loss of jobs. I read in The Irish Times that the association in their annual report claimed that there had been a 40 per cent fall in takings in the licensed trade since the latest tax increase on drink last month and warned of widespread unemployment in the industry. The heading in The Evening Press was “Drink Trade Chief Slams High Taxes”.

VAT on hired cars is very serious. Hired cars are indispensable to the successful development of mobile tourism. Did the Minister for Transport and Power and the Minister for Finance not understand that the bulk of the Irish car hire business is transacted with tourists? Eighty-five per cent of our car hire revenue comes from foreign earnings. While this revenue may be small when compared with the total tourist earnings, without car-hire firms many tourists would not visit Ireland and their expenditure would be lost to the country. The car-hire industry, although totally involved in tourism, has never benefited from development or interest grants or subsidies of any kind. Now that industry is expected, without any notice, to bear a staggering increase in tax. The Government should be concerned that the number of car-hire firms has halved since 1969. They should also be concerned that because of this 10 per cent VAT more companies will go out of business.

The increase in VAT charges for the hotel industry has come at a time when the industry has passed through years of difficulties. The viability of many of those hotels is threatened. The inter-hotels comparison survey carried out by Stokes, Kennedy, Crowley on behalf of the hotel industry and Bord Fáilte indicated that the hotel industry has been in difficulties for some years. This report showed that in 1974 the entire hotel industry only recorded a profit before taxation of 2.4 per cent of the turnover. The result is even more dramatic when one realises that in parts of the west and south many of the hotels have either made no profit at all or they have recorded a loss. Nearly 50 per cent of the hotels lost money in 1974. It is not expected, due to the VAT increase and the increased labour and energy costs, that the industry did any better in 1975.

The effect of the new tax impositions on the hotel industry is viewed with great dismay by many experts. A high proportion of the benefit of the industry every year is contracted for well in advance of the tourist season. In most cases the sales campaign takes place the previous July or August. There are firm prices for package tours, inclusive of accommodation, and in many cases transport and car-hire prices have already been agreed. It is estimated that 200 promoters have agreed prices at least six months in advance. This contract activity of the hotel business is highly competitive. The volume of this activity is critical to the industry. Many hoteliers depend primarily on the advance booking for survival.

Do the Government not know that many of those have pre-contracted much of their business on the basis of 6.75 per cent VAT? A brochure entitled "Ireland, 1976—Motoring Holidays with B & I Line" has stamped on it "holidays guaranteed, no surcharges". Inside the cover it states that "the prices published in this programme will not be subject to any surcharge during the validity of this brochure". Was it not also known that many hundreds of thousands of pounds were spent on printing the promotional brochures and distributing them abroad? At the time of the budget was it not also understood that Aer Lingus had guaranteed their prices against surcharges? They published this guarantee in their printed literature. If those surcharges are applied they will force people either to cancel their holidays or the industry will have to bear the cost.

The country must honour our word. Bord Fáilte have circulated this literature stating that the promoters are carrying those fixed prices for their holidays. It turns out that the quoted prices cannot be honoured because of the action of the Minister for Finance. If a tourist is quoted a price he expects it to be honoured. A person who finds the charge increased before he can avail of the holiday resents this. As a tourist centre we cannot expect to be taken seriously if we renege on our commitments. The Minister, by the imposition of those taxes, has placed tourists in a very embarrassing position. They must either renege on booking their holidays or the industry must run their business at a loss.

The result of the present economic conditions is that the domestic demand is depressed and, therefore, any growth in the economy must come from exports. In order to get the economy moving again it is essential that our exports be developed to the greatest possible extent. Tourism is an export industry and is well placed to stimulate growth in the economy. When one considers that the number of jobs which originated from the tourist industry in 1975 was 118,000 it can be seen why the needs of the industry should be given high priority by those responsible for the economy.

The Minister has claimed that the subvention suggested could not be paid to the industry. He should keep in mind how substantial the contribution of this industry to the Exchequer is. The tax content of tourism is around £30 million per year. This shows that the tourist industry is making a very worth-while contribution to the national economy which is of particular value in our present circumstances. I understand the Minister made a statement on the Canadian flights plan. The Irish Times of 31st March stated:

The promoters of the flights from Canada claimed yesterday that Ireland stood to lose between $3 million and $5 million from the decision. The Minister's action was taken after Aer Lingus complained to the Department of Transport and Power that the operator was "dumping" seats and would seriously affect traffic on its own services from Canada.

I understand that last year the tour operators organised a series of 15 charter flights to Ireland and they carried in the region of 2,300 tourists. They were operated by an independent Canadian charter company. It was a successful promotion and, in the light of that success, the company decided to expand the charters this year. They got sanction from the Canadian Government for 39 flights with a 7,000-seat capacity. The flights were from Toronto and Montreal to Shannon and Dublin. They were restricted. They were allowed only a 20 per cent increase on last year by the Minister. I would be glad if he would explain that decision to restrict the inflow of tourists.

I move the following amendment:

To delete all words after "Dáil Éireann" and substitute the following:

"recognises that the aim of the Government is to carry out a development programme for tourism to enable the industry to expand; and takes note of the Government's progress to date towards the achievement of that aim."

This amendment is based on the 14-point plan referred to by Deputy Leonard. We have been very successful. We have given the industry encouragement, tangible help and greater hope for the future in the three years I have been Minister. I want to mention three things Deputy Leonard said. He said tourist revenue, although declining, is still 10 per cent of our exports or something like that. I am not sure what he said. He said Bord Fáilte's promotional budget has shrunk in three years.

In real terms.

He said what a tourist looks for is a holiday which is enjoyable and is good value for money. The first two statements are false. I thoroughly agree with the third one. That is what tourists look for. Tourists come here for a number of reasons. I do not want to see this country develop into a cheap tourist market. I do not want to see tourists flocking here because every place is cheaper, the beaches are crowded and you cannot drive your car on the road. Our attraction as a tourist country is totally different from that. What we are seeking to sell—and what I think I have been successful in selling—is a country where the people are different, where the quality of food is excellent, where the quality of the hotels is superior to or equal to that of any other hotel in the world, where the roads are not as crowded as in other countries in Europe, and where there is good value for money. There is good value for money here for tourists no matter where they come from.

One of the complaints I have about certain sectors of the industry is the poor mouth they put on and the ullagoning they went on with which retarded progress and interfered with the good work being done by Bord Fáilte particularly last year. Bord Fáilte and I said the indications were that we would have a good season, but certain sectors of the industry said we were in for a terrible season. There would have been a far better season last year but for those people who put on the poor mouth. Business had to be in their door before they recognised the fact that there was business to be picked up from all over the world, if they would only go out and look for it, instead of complaining about what they thought would be a poor season but which did not turn out to be a poor season.

Tourism revenue is not declining even taking inflation into account and the numbers coming here. It increased in the past three years. It increased in 1973 over 1972, in 1974 over 1973 and in 1975 over 1974. Bord Fáilte are budgeting for an increase again this year. I said each year that I did not want to make prophecies about what the tourist season will bring. Things can interfere with the best prophecies and the best plans of Bord Fáilte, or anybody else in the tourist industry, at short notice, and have done so in other years to the detriment of the tourist industry. I have figures for the first two months of this year. If this motion were being taken next week I would have the March figures. For the first two months of this year our figures are up on 1975. The bookings this year are very much higher for 1976 than they were this time last year for 1975. That is an indication that people outside this country recognise the value there is to be found here, and recognise that they can come here and be quite safe in moving around the streets.

There was a large expansion of tourism here in the sixties. A great deal of money was provided to build many hotels. Perhaps the people who went into the tourist industry at that time had not got a background in the industry. Nor were they as professional as they might have been. Many people built hotels without any knowledge of the hotel industry, which is a very professional industry and needs a tremendous amount of personal dedication. Many people went into the industry who had not got that background, that professionalism, that training in the industry. To my mind, this damaged the hotel industry as a whole. They lowered standards. They dragged down prices. They made hotels uneconomic.

In 1969, and 1970 in particular, because of what was going on in this country it appeared to people outside that they could not spend their holidays here and that they would not be safe. There was a lack of trust, an unsureness about the welcome for people across the water. In 1969, 1970, 1971 and 1972 they were not sure there was a welcome here for them. But 1972 was such a disaster that it was the worst year for tourism since 1962. The burning of the British embassy in early 1972 had a more detrimental effect on tourism than anything else in our whole history. The fact that a group of thugs could walk down the main streets of the capital of a country and burn the embassy of their nearest neighbour had its effect. We profess to have a friendly relationship with that country. This did untold damage to Irish tourism not just in the United Kingdom but all over the world.

When I took office in March, 1973, there was gloom and depression. For that reason one of the points of the 14-point plan was that there would be a new attitude to tourism. I found the hotel industry extremely depressed, extremely unsure and fearful for the future. I found the morale of Bord Fáilte and the carriers very low. I found the people working in the field promoting tourism to this country unsure of what the future held, and half afraid to say they were Irish and selling Ireland. This was deplorable.

I felt sufficient money had been put into building hotels. There was sufficient plant to cater for the tourist industry for many years. Bord Fáilte recognised that in 1969 when they said grants for new hotels would be cut off but they would work out commitments they already had. This is where Deputy Leonard is confused about the figures. One side of the budget was diminishing because there were fewer calls on the capital acquisition side but the promotional side has grown by almost 90 per cent since we took office. It is now 88 per cent higher than it was under the previous Administration. I felt the effort should be put into upgrading standards, providing help for the hotel industry to improve, to refurbish, to provide amenities, and in promotion.

I believe the people of the world want to come here. There are discerning people in the United States of America, and the mainland of Europe, and in England. We cannot forget that tourists from the United Kingdom have traditionally been, and I hope will continue to be, the most significant part of the tourist numbers coming here. That policy adopted by me in 1973 of helping hotels to refurbish, of providing amenities, and promotional efforts, has paid off because every year since then the numbers coming here have increased.

The tourist industry is out of the gloom and depression it suffered in 1970, 1971 and 1972. Aer Lingus is a big promoter of tourism to this country. It is not seeking to pull the rug from under Bord Fáilte. In the last three years B & I and other organisations have gained more confidence and business. Tourism is a most important industry for a number of reasons. We could spend hours discussing the benefits deriving from tourism. The money earned from this industry is very important, but is it the most important and the only thing?

Last year on a beach in County Kerry where there was a small parking lot near a bay, out of the 23 cars parked there 18 were owned by non-nationals. They had plates with the letters D, I, F, or GB on the cars. The decrease in traffic to the mainland of Europe and from America last year was enormous. For virtually all of the European tourist market last year there was a drop of 15 per cent in American tourists as compared with 1974, but Ireland was the only European country to get an increase in this traffic. This was not done by wishful thinking, by making fiery speeches or by addressing tourist bodies. It was obtained by going out and selling and by assuring people they would be safe in Ireland.

Last year I spent ten days in America and this year I spent eight days in promoting Ireland and between television, radio and newspapers I gave between 50 or 60 interviews. I was asked politely what I was doing in America, I was asked politely if Ireland was good value for money and I was asked what were the attractions for Americans. I regret to say there was one common question in all of the interviews. It was: "Is it safe to go to Ireland?" I am very sorry I have to say that, as I was sorry I had to listen to that question so frequently.

I was able to assure my questioners that they were far safer in Ireland than they might be in certain parts of their own country. The same thing happened in France, Germany and in Brussels in 1974. I am sorry to say that in the United Kingdom I got the reaction "Why should we support you people when we see what you do to us?" It is very sad—I put it no stronger than that—when our nearest neighbours, the people with whom we should be most friendly, who are our nearest market for tourism, can adopt this attitude towards us. I am glad to say it is not common to all the people of the United Kingdom. The vast majority of people there realise that those who are responsible for the reaction I have described do not represent anyone in this country, that they are not working in the interests of farmers, of industry, of the tourist trade or in the interests of ordinary people.

The majority of people in the United Kingdom recognise that fact but there are still people who feel bitter about it. It is the one market where I am not satisfied with my efforts or the efforts of Bord Fáilte in the last three years. We have done no more than hold the figures. We have not managed to get the very dramatic increase we got from Germany, France, the Benelux countries and the United States. It gives me no pleasure to say that. I should love to see British Rail ferries, the B & I ferries, Aer Lingus and British Airways coming to this country crammed with people, English, Welsh and Scottish people, from the start of the season which is about this time, to the end of October. There is a welcome here for them. They can be assured that virtually everyone wants to see them here and to give them a welcome. We want to give them the good value for money that this country represents for tourists.

The Financial Times on 28th February last published a survey entitled “A guide to travel costs around the world” and it listed about 60 cities. They included Oslo, New York, Paris Nairobi, Algeria, Port of Spain and many others and the third cheapest city was Dublin. The two cheaper cities were Lisbon and Dar-es-Salaam. The other 57 or so cities—the principal cities of the world—were more expensive than Dublin. I think Deputy O'Brien is the only Dublin Deputy present in the House; the other seven Deputies would not think Dublin so very cheap by standards throughout the rest of the country. Therefore, if Dublin is the third cheapest city, we can imagine what good value Galway, Sligo, Limerick, Waterford, Cork and Killarney would be for tourists.

It is crazy and it is not in the interests of the country for people to say that we are pricing ourselves out of the tourist market. This country is great value for money. It is very important that tourists be given value for money but the people we are trying to attract are looking for something else that money cannot buy. They are looking for a welcome, for clean beaches, uncluttered roads and natural friendly people. A value cannot be put on those things. To decry our own product, to cry "stinking fish" is about as harmful a thing as they can do. I have already said that they harmed the tourist season last year by their attitude.

Deputy Leonard said the hotel industry was hurt by the budget. However, there were three hoteliers who commented on the matter—not small or Dublin-located hoteliers. One said that in spite of the outcry against the budgetary impositions, particularly those affecting the tourist industry, up to that time he had not received proof of a drastic cancellation of holiday bookings resulting from price rises, that in fact some sectors of the industry reported a fairly significant rise in reservations compared with last year. The chief executive of another group said that his organisation had decided to absorb the VAT increases on precontracted bookings even though the profit margins on such business would be reduced. He did not think the situation was as serious as had been represented by the Hotels Federation. A spokesman for another hotel chain was reported as being fairly optimistic about prospects for the coming year.

Were they members of the Hotels Federation?

Every one of them. I want to give comparative figures for Bord Fáilte promotional allocations in the past five years. In 1972-73 it was £3.26 million; it is now £6.12 million, an increase of 88 per cent.

What is the inflation increase?

Very much less than that. That is an increase in real terms. Deputy Leonard said the number of people coming to the country had been down in the last three years but the figures are: 1972, 1,458,000, a decrease over 1971—and it shows how serious the situation was then—of 13.8 per cent; 1973, 1,614,000; 1974, 1,628,000; 1975, 1,688,000. There has been an increase in each one of these three years, despite what Deputy Leonard said.

I am confident, provided nothing happens—the House knows what I mean by that—that we will again have an increase in 1976. I am always reluctant to prophesy about tourism, knowing what can happen, but I am confident that the road on which the Government have set Bord Fáilte and the tourist industry is the right one and that the country will continue to benefit. I introduced two new schemes for hotels and guest-houses—one was the improvements scheme to which I have referred. I think the hotel industry did not believe I was really serious and that I would put the effort into tourism that would get results and there was a sluggish start. Initially there was no great demand for that scheme but now 140 hoteliers are availing of it and another 130 hoteliers are availing of the second scheme which I introduced, the amenity scheme. That is proof that the Government's commitment in its 14-point plan has been followed through and that the benefits are there for the tourist industry if they want to take them.

Deputy Leonard referred to Quebecair—I thought he was not going to mention it at all when he left it so long after the outcry in the papers last week; I thought he was going to ignore the matter; he did not give himself much time——

I missed the Minister's broadcast and I did not see it in the newspapers.

I should explain that Quebecair last year applied for permission to run 15 round trip charters into Ireland carrying about 2,700 passengers each and were granted leave. Aer Lingus held at the time that they would interfere with their regular schedule traffic. I do not need to remind the House how essential a part of tourism promotion is the national airline. If we allowed an open skies policy we would certainly allow our airline to go bankrupt. Who would then promote Ireland? Why should anybody come here unless a plane load of traffic was guaranteed to them, whether from Toronto, New York or Rio de Janeiro? They would want to come to Dublin. The schedule traffic must stop at Shannon. How could we guarantee any airline would promote our interests on the other side of the Atlantic unless it was the Irish airline?

Quebecair applied this year for 39 charters—they had 15 last year. Subsequently they said that even though they had applied for that number they did not want it because they had been unable to sell the seats and had themselves cancelled five of their charters. I discussed this matter with Aer Lingus and I had to accept their word that because of the effect of charter traffic out of Canada on Aer Lingus last year they had to cut back on their scheduled service this year. The scheduled services to Ireland by Aer Lingus and Air Canada come via Montreal, Shannon, Dublin. The charter traffic comes from Toronto to Dublin direct. If we lost the scheduled traffic—and I think charters to the extent envisaged by the promoters would have meant that next year or perhaps later this year Aer Lingus would have had to take their scheduled service off that route and that would not benefit Irish tourism— not only would it come off the Montreal route but that connects with Chicago, a city with a large Irish population, and that would have gone also. Even though in 1976 we might have had sufficient tourists coming, in the long term this development would not benefit Irish tourism.

I decided to limit them to a 20 per cent increase this year over last year's carrying. If we could get a 20 per cent increase right across the tourist board this year we would be extremely happy. In addition to these 18 charters, Aer Lingus are running charters. Another company, CP Air, which did not operate in 1975, propose to run five charters and Aer Lingus propose to run six, a total of 29 charters, almost double the number of charters flying out of Canada last year. If all these are filled I shall be very pleased. If the number travelling by schedule traffic dropped to such an extent that Aer Lingus had to drop the Montreal-Chicago route it would not be a benefit to Irish tourism. While I would not like to prejudge any situation, if that position arose next year I would have to look seriously at the charter situation in relation to the North American continent.

Would the Minister explain, before he sits down why it is that all the hoteliers are claiming that they are on the verge of bankruptcy and that every one of them is in the same position?

I have not heard it from any one of them and Bord Fáilte have as close an association with individual hotels and with hotels as anybody else. I heard two individuals complaining but in my view those hoteliers should not be in the business because they are not prepared to work; they are prepared to get a living by other people working. Any person, politician or hotelier, who is not prepared to work does not deserve to get on. Hoteliers say privately that they had a very good season last year and are looking forward to a good season this year. I am confident they will have a good season.

I agree with the terms of the motion tabled by Deputy Leonard deploring the action of the Government which reduced the competitiveness of the Irish tourist industry. The motion also recommended that subventions necessary to restore competitiveness be provided. I do not agree with the Minister when he said that we were not pricing ourselves out of the tourist market. Because of rapidly rising prices and the Government's failure to curb inflation, we are pricing ourselves out of that market. Undoubtedly, we would have more tourists if we were more competitive and in order to ensure this competitiveness there should be a greater investment of the preservation and improvement of our natural environment.

The Bord Fáilte plan published recently is great on paper. It deals in a concise manner with the requirements necessary to attract tourists between now and 1980. However, there is no provision for the financing of the plan. It has been costed and we have been told how much will be spent in the next four or five years but a suggestion was put forward that local authorities and public bodies should contribute without those bodies being consulted as to their capacity to pay. Bord Fáilte, and the regional tourism organisations, the joint publishers of the plan, saw their role as assessing the needs of tourism and the preparation of overall plans and policies. They decided it was necessary to do this because of the absence of a national physical plan. By action, incentives and encouragement they hope to ensure the consistent development of tourism activities. The projections in the plan are fine on paper but I should like to know where the money will come from to finance all the proposals.

A number of elements here appeal to tourists; the basic emotional response to Ireland as regards its culture, romantic heritage and distinctive way of life and scenery, the atmosphere of tranquility and the friendliness of the Irish people. These factors must be supported by high standards of service together with comprehensive facilities and amenities for all tourists. There is no doubt that conservation is essential for the future of tourism. The physical environment now faces a severe threat and the Government should spend more money on conservation. More money should be spent on the prevention of pollution from agriculture, urban and industrial effluent, the destruction of cities, towns and villages through inappropriate redevelopment, bad civic design and indiscriminate ribbon development. There is a need for the prevention of the spoiling of the countryside by badly sited development, overhead wires, river drainage, abandoned cars and defaced signposts.

In most cases these problems and conflicts are the result of legitimate land uses such as housing, industry, agriculture and recreation. I am aware that the Government intend doing something about water pollution but, unfortunately, no provision has been made for the payment of grants to the local authorities responsible for carrying out the proposals outlined in the Bill which deals with water pollution. We must take into account that local authorities are probably the greatest pollutants in the long run and the Government should make grants available to help them combat pollution.

We must also remember that our coastline must be protected. It is interesting to note that even though we have about 3,500 miles of coastline we have only 342 miles of sandy beaches and only 80 miles of those beaches are used for bathing purposes. Those sandy beaches used for bathing are an important national asset and they must be protected. The Government should introduce a scheme of grants to help local authorities provide recreation facilities in such places.

Abandoned cars and defaced sign posts are also a big problem. Many public dumps are along our national and tourist routes. Immediate action should be taken to ensure that local authorities provide proper refuse tips. Legislation should be initiated and grants should be made available to local authorities to enable them to close down illegal tips and signpost legal tips so that the public can be made aware of them. Refuse tips should be sited in such a way as to make as little disturbance as possible in areas of high tourist value. All reasonable steps should be taken to conceal their existence.

Public toilets should be provided in built-up areas, particularly in areas visited by tourists which become overcrowded during the peak tourist season. There is no point in building public toilets unless some effort is made to ensure minimum standards of operation. Plans should be made at a national level for carrying out at local level.

The cleanliness of our beaches is also very important. The condition of many beaches must surely give tourists a very bad impression. There are numerous tourist facilities which could be improved and developed because we have great natural resources. Action should be taken to increase access to more waters for game fishing. More boats should be made available for hire, and signposting to less well-known waters could be improved. These schemes could be carried out through Bord Fáilte, as well as the restocking of depleted waters. Better shore facilities, such as car parking and shelters, should be provided for anglers. As far as sea fishing is concerned, more shore access should be provided by signposting and the provision of tourist information centres at a large number of places in all costal areas. A number of boat slips and mooring places should be provided in smaller towns along the coast, particularly along the east coast. Deep-sea fishing boats should be available in more areas.

A certain amount of progress has been made in recent years in relation to horse riding and pony trekking, but this could be expanded by the provision of new centres in areas where the terrain is suitable. Horse riding and pony trekking provide recreation for the tourist who is not so young and not so fit. In many areas these facilities would be welcomed by the local authorities if they were given the necessary financial aid. Indoor recreational facilities should be provided in areas where there is a real shortage, especially in family holiday centres.

I do not agree with the proposals in the Bord Fáilte development plan. I do not think that local authorities and public bodies should be concerned with entertainment. I fully agree with the suggestion that as much State investment as possible should go into recreational facilities and that they should be maintained by local authorities.

Debate adjourned.
The Dáil adjourned at 8.30 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 7th April, 1976.
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