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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 8 Jun 1978

Vol. 307 No. 5

Business of Dáil .

: May I ask the reason for refusing to accept my Private Notice Question relative to the Newcastlewest robbery?

: It would be disorderly to raise the matter of why it was refused.

(Cavan-Monaghan): It would be embarrassing.

: These questions are vetted in accordance with well-known and fixed criteria. The Deputy is in a position to submit an ordinary question.

: I have studied Standing Order No. 31 which relates to matters of urgent public importance. I suggest that despite the spate of recent armed robberies——

: This matter may not be discussed now. There is a habit now when a question is turned down of the Deputy concerned raising the reason for the refusal.

: I submit that a robbery of £500,000 is a matter of urgent public importance.

: A robbery in broad daylight.

: Even more so, the prevention of such robberies is a matter of public importance.

: The Deputy may not discuss it now.

: If that is so, I question the relevance of the Dáil in such matters.

: I am calling Item No. 7. Restrictive Practices (Confirmation of Order) Bill, 1978.

: I wish to raise a point of order in regard to this matter. This arose only ten days ago——

: Question Time is over and the matter cannot be raised at this stage. I am calling on the Minister of State.

: I wish to quote from two Dáil debates——

: The Deputy may not do so at this stage. We moved to other business at 3.30 p.m. He can take the opportunity of raising the matter elsewhere.

: I appreciate that, but I wish to draw the attention of the Chair to the fact that on 1 November 1973 the matter of the escape of three prisoners from Mountjoy was discussed here——

: The matter has been decided by the Chair. I am not going to enter into discussion with the Deputy about it. I have already called the Minister of State.

(Interruptions.)

: The Minister of State is in possession. We have moved to other business. The Deputy can raise the matter with the Ceann Comhairle at some stage.

: At that time the then Leader of the Opposition, Deputy Lynch, asked the then Taoiseach, Deputy Cosgrave, to make a statement——

The Deputy cannot raise that matter now.

: He asked him to make a statement——

: The Deputy must obey the Chair. That matter was ruled on by the Ceann Comhairle and it is most unfair to bring it up now in this manner.

: There is a precedent.

: I wish to quote from the Dáil debate——

: The Deputy may not continue in that way.

: I realise that I may be placing the Leas-Cheann Comhairle in an embarrassing position——

: It is most unfair to raise the matter in this fashion. I have told the Deputy he may raise it with the Ceann Comhairle at a later stage.

: I thought the Ceann Comhairle should have had the courtesy to remain in the House.

: I have asked the Deputy not to continue in this fashion.

: Let the Ceann Comhairle come back to the House.

: The Deputy should not enter into this. We are going on to other business.

: I should have thought that the Taoiseach would come into the House.

: If Deputies will not allow business to proceed we will have to adjourn the House.

: The country is in a chaotic state.

: I want to put on record——

(Interruptions.)

: If the Deputies will not allow business to proceed we will have to adjourn the House.

: Is the Deputy not entitled to raise a matter on a point of order?

: He is not entitled to come in here and to raise a matter that has been decided by the Ceann Comhairle.

: Where is the opportunity of raising the matter?

: Deputies either want to let the business of the House proceed or they do not.

: The Ceann Comhairle has left the Chamber, as have the Minister and the whole Fianna Fáil Party, with one exception.

: This matter was raised last week and Deputy Enright is well aware of that. A decision was made on it last week and it cannot be raised again in this fashion.

: I am sorry the Leas-Cheann Comhairle has been placed in such a position because of this discussion——

: There is no discussion. There is a Bill before the House at the moment.

: I wish to draw the attention of the House to the statement of the then Taoiseach on 19 March——

: The Deputy must obey the Chair. I do not want to suspend him. I wish to proceed with the business of the House.

: It is a sad day when the Government will not allow someone to come to the House and to speak on this matter. I regret very much——

: The Deputy does not regret anything. It was most unfair of the Deputy to raise a matter when he was told it was not in order.

: The Government have no interest in democracy.

: Deputy O'Keeffe should conduct himself also.

: The Taoiseach should come to the House and make a statement here.

: Will the Deputy please resume his seat? I am calling on the Minister of State.

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