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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 25 Jun 1980

Vol. 322 No. 10

Estimates, 1980. - Adjournment Debate: Low-Cost Egg Imports.

I regret to have to raise this matter at such a late hour at considerable inconvenience to the Chair and to the staff of the House. I would not do so if it were not a matter of considerable importance.

The position is that the level of imports of eggs to Ireland has risen dramatically. In 1978 we imported approximately £350,000 worth of eggs; in 1979 this increased to almost £3 million, an eight-fold increase in value in the amount of eggs being imported. This trend has continued in 1980. In the first two months of 1980 the increase in value terms in imported eggs was 854 per cent higher than the amount imported in January and February of the previous year. This has had dramatic effects on the industry here. The number of layers decreased by 25 per cent in one year from 1978 to 1979 and this decline is continuing. This is of considerable importance when one realises that there are 2,000 jobs at stake in our egg industry. If the growth in imports continues nothing is more certain than that those 2,000 jobs will be lost for good. Already one quarter of the entire egg market here has been taken over by imports, and if the present rate of increase continues it will not be long before 50 per cent or perhaps a higher proportion of our egg market is taken over.

The most worrying fact is that many of the imported eggs are being marketed under brand names which appear to indicate origin in the South. The name of the distributor with a southern Irish address appears on the package and an innocent purchaser would assume they were of southern Irish origin. Only when one examines the code on the package can one know that these eggs are entirely imported so far as every aspect of added value is concerned. If the first digit is 8 then the eggs originated in this State. If the first digit is 9 as is often the case with eggs marketed by companies and some co-ops in the south, that indicates that those egges are UK eggs. This is happening on a very wide scale, and I believe our consumers are being deceived by the labels used in marketing these eggs and that there is a case for action to be taken to prevent this deception continuing under the Consumer Information Act. I ask the Minister for Agriculture to take this matter up with the Minister for Industry, Commerce and Tourism so as to prevent this deception of the consumer.

These imports are taking place because the eggs are being exported at less than the cost of production. The purpose is to eliminate Irish egg producers so that in two or three years time when that purpose is accomplished the importing companies—in one case a very large multi-national firm with tentacles all over the western world—will be able to dominate the southern Irish market and charge whatever price it likes. This is a classic tactic to eliminate a weak industry—to sell below cost for a limited period and once sufficient damage has been done to eliminate the competition you can then come in with your monopoly.

The case of imports below costs is clearly a defiance of the principles laid down in the Treaty of Rome and in particular of Article 85 of the Treaty concerning fair competition. I have no doubt that importing eggs below cost is unfair competition within the meaning of the Treaty. Has the Minister taken up this matter with the Commission? Has he lodged a formal complaint with the Commission with a view to action being taken? Is he prepared to initiate a legal case in the court which decides on cases of breach of the provisions of the Treaty of Rome? If the Minister has not done any of these things I charge him with failing to deal with the matter.

I raised this question in the House two months ago and at that stage the only answer I could elicit was that the Minister was investigating the matter. I was forced two months later to repeat the question. This time he admitted there was something wrong, but that was only as a result of the previous prodding by myself and others. On 4 June in reply to Question No. 31 the Minister stated:

From the information available it seems clear that some importers of eggs are engaged in below-cost selling. The courses of action open to me to counter this situation are being examined.

I raise the matter this evening to discover what is being done. What are the courses of action that are being examined? Has the examination been completed in any case and has any action being taken? On past performance I am not in any sense confident that action is being taken.

One of the obvious ways of dealing with this matter under existing law is to refer the case of below cost selling, which is an aspect of unfair competition, to the Restrictive Practices Commission established under Irish law to deal with such cases. I referred this matter to the Examiner of Restrictive Practices two months ago. When I made enquiries recently I discovered to my surprise that I was the first person to have referred it to him apart from the National Egg Producers Co-Op which had been in touch with him before me. I was particularly surprised that at no stage until I approached the Examiner of Restrictive Practices had the Department of Agriculture made any approach to the body charged specifically with the duty of investigating instances of unfair competition. This indicates evidence of dereliction of duty on the part of the Minister and the Department in not availing of all existing statutory powers to protect egg producers here, most important amongst them perhaps being the powers of the Examiner of Restrictive Practices.

Further evidence of the unfairness of the present spate of imports from Northern Ireland particularly is the fact that subsidies are available in Northern Ireland which are not available here. To the best of my knowledge the egg industry in Northern Ireland has received substantial financial assistance from the UK Government. As a result it has built itself up to a very strong situation in the market, a situation which has not obtained in the case of egg producers in the Republic. Giving of national aid to a commodity such as eggs which are governed by Common Agricultural Policy is prohibited under EEC law and should have ceased in any part of the nine member states of the Community. I challenge the Minister with responsibility to vindicate or deny the statements I am about to make, that in defiance of EEC rules the UK Government are continuing to give subsidies to egg producers in Northern Ireland. I am reliably informed that a subsidy of 8.4p per dozen was given originally in Northern Ireland to egg producers there on the grounds that feed costs more in Northern Ireland than on what they describe as the mainland of the United Kingdom, and another subsidy is given to them in relation to eggs to cover the cost of sea transport between Northern Ireland and England, Scotland or Wales.

I understand that it was thought by those concerned with this matter in the European Commission that the subsidies to Northern Ireland egg producers had ceased. However, the information which I have obtained today suggests that in defiance of EEC rules these subsidies, which are entirely artificial State aid and contrary to the directives of the European Commission in this matter, are continued in Northern Ireland. Not only are they importing eggs to this State at below cost but they are being substantially assisted in doing so by their Government. This adds a further grievance on top of the one which exists already.

There is the problem of proving the existence of below cost importation. It is essential that dockets be obtained concerning the cost at which eggs are being sold and the cost at which they are being produced. I am informed that our inspectorate governing the importation of eggs are insufficiently staffed at the moment to obtain all the information necessary to make a convincing case to the European Commission in this matter. Is the Minister of State satisfied that adequate inspectorate staff exist to obtain all of the information which is necessary to prove the case for the curtailment of those exports? I believe it can be shown to the satisfaction of the authorities here that the UK authorities are engaging in illegal practices in subsidising egg production in Northern Ireland, which enables the producers there to gain a foothold in our market by means of below cost selling, which is unfair competition. If already a breach of the rules is taking place in Northern Ireland our Government would be entitled, if not in legal terms certainly in moral terms, to also break the law and stop those imports taking place, even though this might technically constitute a breach of the Treaty of Rome if those imports are, by virtue of the State aid they are receiving, an incident of defiance of existing practices, which are laid down under the Treaty and by the various rules made under it by the European Commission, that State aid, which should not be given, is actually being given. Our Government would be justified in taking retaliatory action to stop such imports.

I am not in a position to prove beyond doubt that such State aid is being given in Northern Ireland, but the Department should be in a position to satisfy themselves about this. They should take whatever action is necessary to stop this situation developing. If it continues for much longer I am convinced that there will be substantial redundancies in the egg industry here. If that happens I do not believe the situation can be repaired, because the market will be penetrated once and for all, contacts and contracts will have been entered into and we will never be able to retrieve the situation which now exists.

The case of the importation of eggs is only one incident of an alarming growth in the importation of food to our market. I believe this is the case in relation to vegetables, potatoes, poultry and meat.

We will stay on eggs.

There is obviously a dangerous situation in relation to the importation of eggs. I remind the Minister of State that his party promised in their election manifesto to establish a domestic food marketing council, whose concern would be the development of our market for Irish food producers. It was said that this council would have a large staff of domestic economy instructors. That promise was made three years ago but nothing has happened to fulfil that specific promise made in black and white by the Government. We are now seeing how serious this situation is as far as eggs are concerned. It is only one instance of many. If ever there was a time to adhere to the promise they made in relation to the establishment of such a council it is now. I applaud them for thinking of the idea, which was a good one. It was one of the best aspects of their manifesto but, unfortunately, it has not been implemented.

I ask the Minister, with particular reference to the penetration of our market by imported eggs, to give a commitment that he will implement the establishment of this domestic marketing council. That may take some time and, therefore, I believe the most urgent thing for the Minister to do is to take action to stop the continued importation of below cost eggs into our market, which is putting 2,000 jobs at risk. If the Minister cannot get satisfaction from the EEC immediately, rather than next month or next year, he must show, in view of the evidence I have cited—I am not aware of any denial of this—or unfair competition, take immediate action.

I accept that the egg industry here is under intense pressure. For a long time the major threat has been illegal imports from Northern Ireland. Smuggling is a particularly difficult problem to resolve but every effort is being made to contain and eliminate it. Allegations about the low cost selling of eggs from Northern Ireland have been made. Firm evidence is required if these allegations are to be proved. At my invitation certain evidence has been produced by the National Egg Producers' Co-op. This information, however, on its own is insufficient.

I did get some further information. Since then, with the help of the Revenue Commissioners, my officials have been assembling and sifting additional data. The available evidence points to below cost selling on the part of some importers. In considering what action to take various factors have to be taken into account. Recent developments on the Irish market cannot be viewed in isolation. Since 1970 there has been a steady contraction in our laying flock, which now stands at about three million birds compared with 4.6 million birds ten years ago. While increased productivity contributes to this contraction the decline in egg consumption has also been an important factor. The decline in egg consumption is continuing and contributes to the current problem facing our egg industry.

It should also be borne in mind that Ireland was not alone in experiencing difficulties in the egg trade over the last year or so. Throughout the EEC 1979 was a crucial year for egg producers. There was an oversupply situation on the Community market and as member states tried to dispose of surplus supplies there was an increase in intra-Community trade. The Northern Ireland egg industry, which exports 70 per cent of its production, was faced with increased competition on its traditional market, the UK mainland. As a result of this the Northern Ireland producers increased their exports to our market and these exports accounted for 20 per cent of sales here during the latter part of 1979. Free trade is a fundamental principle of the EEC and we cannot object to the increased volume of eggs imported from Northern Ireland so long as competition is fair.

But is it fair?

I shall come to that in a moment. The low-cost selling of these imported eggs can be regarded as a direct consequence of the oversupply situation within the EEC. However, I share Deputy Bruton's concern on this matter because the practice in question aggravates the problems confronting our egg industry. In these circumstances I have lodged a formal complaint on the matter with the EEC Commission.

When was this complaint lodged?

Some time ago.

Was it yesterday, for example?

No. To sustain such complaints it is necessary to have firm evidence of the low-cost selling of imported eggs.

Has the Minister got this firm evidence?

I shall deal with that question in a moment. In so far as the allegation regarding the notification to the Restrictive Practices Commission is concerned, the Department officials have had talks with the commission on this matter but their findings have not been completed yet. The matter was brought to the notice of the commission some months ago. Therefore the Deputy's allegation that he is the first person to draw attention to this matter is not correct.

It is Correct.

There should not be interruptions. The Minister has only a couple of minutes in which to conclude.

The Deputy is now alleging that the officials who advised me are not telling the truth.

I was in touch with the commission some months ago on this matter.

The Deputy is accusing my officials of being liars.

I have not referred to the officials.

Deputy Bruton should not interrupt and the Minister should finish his statement.

The Deputy is making allegations about officials in my Department which I am not prepared to accept.

There should not be any charge made in the House against officials. The Minister is responsible.

I have not mentioned the officials.

But the Deputy has said that the information I have given is not correct. In other words, he is accusing my officials of being liars.

The Minister should not hide behind his officials. I am asking him to withdraw the statement he has made.

The Minister must conclude.

I will not withdraw the statement unless the Deputy is prepared to withdraw what he said originally. He has accused officials of my Department of giving incorrect information.

At this hour of the night perhaps both the Deputy and the Minister would agree to finish this matter.

The Minister has accused me of telling an untruth.

If that is how the Minister regarded what the Deputy said, the Deputy should withdraw the statement and the Minister should withdraw what he has said on the matter.

The Official Report will show what was said.

Is the Deputy saying that he did not make the statement in question?

I am asking that the Minister withdraw the statement he has made to the effect that what I said was untrue, which is tantamount to calling me a liar, and that is unparliamentary.

If the Minister means that the Deputy is telling lies, he should withdraw that statement.

The Deputy has accused my officials of giving wrong information. Is that not tantamount to calling them liars?

I have not mentioned the officials.

Would the Minister please finish his statement?

The question of aid for egg producers is being taken up also in Brussels. The subsidy that the Deputy talks about is totally legal in so far as egg producers in Northern Ireland are concerned.

There have been allegations of dumping. An approach to the EEC alleging dumping is likely to invoke the response that within the EEC there are not separate national markets and that therefore dumping cannot take place between member states. At the same time, while the prices policies of some importers cannot be regarded technically as constituting dumping, they have the same result. This puts out of business producers who cannot compete on the same terms.

If the Deputy or anyone else has further evidence in support of the case for our egg producers, I should like to have that evidence; but I would point out that the validity of any complaint rests utterly on how good is the evidence.

And on how good is the Minister putting forward the case.

The Dáil adjourned at 11 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 26 June 1980.

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