asked the Minister for Foreign Affairs whether, in order to demonstrate truly to the IRFU that their team and their view are not representative of the Irish people, the Government will consider holding a referendum on the proposal by the IRFU to send a team to South Africa despite the existence of the gravely unjust system of apartheid in that country.
Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - IRFU Team Visit to South Africa.
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I believe that the decision of the Irish Rugby Football Union to undertake a tour of South Africa in May does not have the support of the majority of Irish people. It has been condemned by a wide and representative section of public opinion. It is opposed by all the political parties in the Dáil, by prominent Church leaders, by trade union leaders and by many other bodies. The Government's opposition to the proposed tour has been expressed on several occasions, most recently in their statement of 3 January and in my reply to Dáil questions on 28 January. In the circumstances, I do not consider that the holding of a referendum on the issue would be appropriate.
As indicated in my reply of 28 January, I am considering a further approach to the IRFU to explain again the Government's policy on apartheid and sporting contacts with South Africa; to inform them of the international reaction to the proposed tour; and to urge them to reconsider their decision in the light of the clear expression of public concern that I have mentioned.
I am glad to hear the Minister is having another try with those extraordinary people. I appreciate it is an extreme and desperate gesture to do this by way of referendum, but would the Minister not feel that he would be more strongly armed in his argument against those people going and disgracing the nation if he had a favourable rely from a referendum telling them that we are all ashamed of what they propose to do — that the whole Irish people are ashamed?
I share the Deputy's concern on this matter, but I think the strongest possible views that can be expressed on behalf of the Irish people would be those coming from this national Parliament in which the elected Members have unanimously condemned the proposed tour.
In the light of the Minister's alleged concern, is it correct that representatives of his Government did not support in the UN a resolution to terminate all sporting contacts with South Africa, and if that is so why?
The Deputy is mistaken. We have supported and backed every anti-apartheid resolution of reality.
I am informed that the Irish Government abstained. Is that correct?
Did I hear the Minister saying that the last time he had formal contact with the IRFU executive was on 2 January. Since that time the crescendo of condemnation from both sides of this House and outside it has been very clear. Now he has indicated to the House that he proposes to talk to them again. When does the Minister propose to do that, and in view of the unanimity in this House would he not consider a joint delegation representing all opinions in this House would be useful in that regard.
I do not think so. I am very grateful for the support that has been given to me by the House, but I as Minister have the responsibility to deal with those people in this matter. I will have to arrange an appointment and the House can be assured that I will carry out the wishes of the House and put the views of the House before them.