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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 9 Apr 1981

Vol. 328 No. 8

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Government Loans.

9.

asked the Minister for Finance the amount of loans from all sources negotiated by the Government from 1 January 1980 to 31 December 1980; the terms for the repayment of capital and interest in all cases; and how the money was spent.

As the reply is in the form of a tabular statement, I propose, with the permission of the Ceann Comhairle, to circulate it with the Official Report.

The following is the statement:

DOMESTIC LOANS ISSUED DURING 1980

£m

£m

£m

(i) New Government Securities

11½% Funding Loan 1983

75

11¾% Finance Stock 1984

80

12% Exchequer Stock 1985

80

235

(ii) Tranches of pre-1980 Government Securities

8½% Funding Loan 1981

25

10% Exchequer Stock 1981

35

11½% Finance Stock 1981

30

11½% Exchequer Loan 1982

70

10½% Finance Stock 1982

55

9% Conversion Stock 1980/82

45

11¾% Funding Loan 1983

100

Variable rate Finance Stock 1983

10

12% Finance Loan 1984

90

7½% National Loan 1981/86

5

8½% Conversion Stock 1986/88

20

9¾% National Loan 1984/89

20

14% Exchequer Loan 1990/92

30

7% National Loan 1987/92

10

7½% Development Stock 1988/93

10

12% Conversion Stock 1995

35

9¼% Exchequer Loan 1991/96

10

11½% Development Loan 1997/99

40

14½% Finance Loan 1998/2000

10

14¾% Development Stock 2002/04

10

660

(iii) New Exchequer Bills issued during 1980

30

925

All the securities listed above were issued at the prevailing market price. The yield to redemption date varied between 12.4 per cent and 17.5 per cent depending on the time of issue.

FOREIGN LOANS ISSUED DURING 1980

£m

£m

£m

(i) EIB Loans

156

(ii) Variable interest rate Loans

433

(iii) Bonds and Notes

8½% DM Bonds 1980/88

41

8½% Japanese Yen Bonds 1992

36

6% Swiss Franc Notes 1985

15

92

681

TOTAL OF DOMESTIC & FOREIGN LOANS ISSUED DURING 1980:

1,606

The EIB loans have various maturity dates up to 20 years and interest rates ranging from 7.8 per cent to 11.1 per cent depending on the currency and the date of borrowing.

The variable interest rate loans have maturity dates of up to ten years.

The domestic loans are shown at their nominal value and the foreign loans are valued using the exchange rate current at the date of borrowing.

All the borrowing was used to finance the Capital Budget and to repay maturing debt.

Does the Minister agree that if one takes the Government's foreign indebtedness plus the foreign indebtedness of the State companies and the net foreign liabilities of the banking system against our foreign external holdings, we are no longer a creditor nation internationally? Does the Minister not agree that in the few years the Government have been in office they have moved us from the position of being a strong international creditor nation into being an International debtor with a fear that the International Monetary Fund bank will interfere with us at any time? Does the Minister agree with the statement reported in the newspapers last night by a Fianna Fáil Deputy that the Government are going to the country before the House burns down around them?

I should like to know who wrote that statement for Deputy L'Estrange.

One of the Minister's colleagues.

The same person who wrote the Minister's budget speech. At least Deputy L'Estrange can read his.

It is the same person who wrote the Minister's reply to the Second Stage of the Finance Bill.

I should like to repeat what I said last night in the House, that our credit rating by recognised international bankers is higher than it has ever been.

The world is full of hot Arab money and the Government are fools enough to take it.

Will the Minister tell the House why Senator Whitaker condemned Government borrowing recently?

Go back to Senator Hussey.

Those in glass houses should not throw stones. Go back with another silver teapot over to Maggie Thatcher.

Will the Minister of State and Deputy L'Estrange please be orderly?

(Interruptions.)

I have asked the Minister of State and Deputy L'Estrange to be orderly.

I suggest that the Minister of State should leave the House to try to find an office where he can go to.

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