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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 20 May 1981

Vol. 328 No. 16

Merchant Shipping Bill, 1981: Second Stage.

I move: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

The main object of the Bill is to enable Ireland to ratify the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea, 1974. This convention is the fifth in a line of conventions on safety of life at sea — commonly known as SOLAS Conventions. The Bill, therefore, is totally concerned with safety and, when enacted, it will enable Ireland to enforce the highest international safety standards in respect of Irish-registered ships and other ships which use Irish ports. I will now set out the background to the latest SOLAS Convention.

Towards the end of 1974 a conference of the Inter-Governmental Maritime Consultative Organisation—IMCO— which is the United Nations specialised agency concerned with maritime affairs, was held in London to consider a revised convention which would replace the 1960 SOLAS Convention. The conference had two main objectives. The first was to incorporate into a new convention all the amendments to the 1960 convention which had yet to come into force. Some of these amendments were up to eight years old and were clearly needed to improve safety and yet, under the terms of the 1960 convention, they could not come into effect until there had been a large number of positive acceptances by individual Governments. This led to the second objective of the conference. Apart from the need to implement past amendments, it was plain that action was needed to quicken the pace at which future amendments would come into force. The conference, therefore, agreed to adopt an accelerated amendment procedure to prevent delays in the future. As a result of its deliberations, the conference adopted the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea, 1974.

The 1974 convention replaces the Safety of Life at Sea Covention adopted by IMCO in 1960 and is the latest in a series of conventions going back to 1914. SOLAS 1974 includes the numerous technical improvements incorporated in the amendments to the 1960 convention. These include changes in the regulations concerning fire safety, radio equipment, the carriage of grain, and equipment to improve the safety of navigation.

An important feature of the 1974 convention is the new tacit acceptance procedure which will make it much easier to bring future amendments of a technical nature into force. The new procedure means in effect that, with regard to future technical amendments to the SOLAS Convention, contracting states will be automatically deemed to have accepted them within a specified period unless they take specific steps to seek an extension of the period. This procedure does not apply to the main articles of the convention nor to the more fundamental provisions of the annex, that is provisions relating to scope, surveys, inspections and certificates. Here, amendments can only enter into force six months after their being explicitly accepted by two-thirds of the contracting states. As a result of the revised amendments procedure being included in the latest convention, it is envisaged that SOLAS 1974 will be the last SOLAS Convention in the series. In the future, technical amendments can be incorporated as they arise, thus avoiding the need to draft a new convention due to a backlog of amendments, as in the past.

In consideration of recommendations by its Maritime Safety Committee, the Council of IMCO decided on 25 May 1977, to convene the International Conference on Tanker Safety and Pollution Prevention, which was held in London in February 1978. As a result of its deliberations the conference adopted two protocols: the protocol of 1978 relating to the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea, 1974, known as the SOLAS Protocol and the protocol of 1978 relating to the International Convention for the Prevention of Pollution from Ships, 1973, known as the MARPOL Protocol. In this Bill we are only concerned with the SOLAS Protocol.

The SOLAS Protocol modifies certain requirements of the 1974 convention and adopts some additional requirements. These modifications mainly concern the type and frequency of inspections and surveys and the duration and validity of certificates. A significant addition calls for intermediate surveys, that is surveys within the period of validity of certificates, to be made for tankers of ten years old and over. The protocol is particularly aimed at increasing tanker safety. Revised fire safety measures for tankers are set out in it. For example, it requires that tankers of 20,000 metric tonnes deadweight and over shall be fitted with a fixed deck froth system and a fixed inert-gas system. Under the 1974 convention this requirement applied only to tankers of 100,000 metric tonnes deadweight and upwards. The additional requirements contained in the protocol reflect international anxiety over the growing number of accidents involving oil tankers.

We in Government, and indeed the country as a whole, are acutely aware of the risk of such accidents occurring especially when we recall the disaster at Whiddy Island in January 1979 in which 50 lives were tragically lost. The importance of the contribution which this protocol can make to increasing tanker safety was recognised in the report of the Whiddy Tribunal which urged the implementation of the requirements of the protocol in respect of inert-gas systems as soon as possible. Implementation of the SOLAS Protocol will, therefore, give effect to that particular recommendation of the Whiddy Tribunal report.

The 1974 SOLAS Convention came into force between contracting states on 25 May 1980. The SOLAS Protocol came into force in May of this year. Recognising that both of these instruments can make a significant improvement to the safety of ships and the lives of persons on board, the Conference on Tanker Safety and Pollution Prevention, referred to earlier, adopted a resolution calling on those states which contemplate becoming parties to the SOLAS Convention to do so in respect of both the convention and the protocol simultaneously. The convention and its protocol are treated as two distinct instruments even though both are concerned with the safety of life at sea and one is, in effect, an extension of the other. Both instruments are required to be ratified separately and only parties to the convention may become parties to the protocol. This Bill, when enacted, will enable Ireland to accede both to the 1974 SOLAS Convention and to the SOLAS Protocol.

Having laid out the background to the convention, I now turn to the Bill itself. The IMCO text of the convention is a long and complex technical document. In comparison the Bill appears to be short and simple. The reason is that existing statutory powers allow for the making of the necessary regulations to implement the vast majority of the requirements imposed by the convention.

There are, however, a number of provisions in the 1974 convention which cannot be implemented under existing powers. Power to implement these provisions is provided for in section 2 of the Bill. The convention lays down, for the first time, rules on the oil fuel used in machinery on board ship, by prohibiting fuel which is liable to ignite at low temperatures. Sub-section (4) of section 2, therefore, makes amendments to the 1952 and 1966 Acts to enable the necessary regulations to be made.

Processed grain, which can be as hazardous a cargo as natural grain in that it is equally liable to shift and disturb a ship's stability, is now made subject to the grain regulations which currently apply only to natural forms of grain. Also, the convention now covers all ships carrying grain, regardless of the volume of cargo in relation to the size of ship. The previous position was that only ships whose cargoes of grain exceeded one-third of their tonnage, were affected. Sub-section (5) of section 2 provides the powers to make rules in respect of these two developments in the grain regulations.

I shall next deal with the question of future amendments to the convention, which is covered in section 3. I have already stressed that the conference which framed the convention was concerned to accelerate the pace at which amendments come into force. The procedure which was eventually adopted is contained in Article VIII of the convention.

I shall not go into the complexities of the new amendment procedure but the aim is clear—to accelerate the introduction of amendments needed to maintain up-to-date safety standards consistent with the fullest possible consultation between contracting Governments. No Government would be bound to accept or implement any amendment to which it objected, so there is no question of a loss of national sovereignty. Section 3 of the Bill provides me with the power to implement by the making of regulations, any future amendments made in accordance with Article VIII of the convention.

The next section of the Bill, section 4, is a very important one in that it makes provision for offences in respect of ships which are unfit to go to sea without danger to human life. I already have powers under sections 459 and 462 of the Merchant Shipping Act, 1894, to detain an unsafe ship either absolutely or until the ship has been made safe. Section 4 of the Bill provides for the imposition of fines of up to £50,000 on the owners and masters of such ships. These powers, taken together, provide a strong deterrent to be used to prevent sub-standard vessels from entering Irish ports, and they effectively implement a recommendation on that subject contained in the report of the Whiddy Tribunal of Enquiry.

Section 5 of the Bill provides me with the power to make regulations requiring such ships as are specified in the regulations to carry adequate and up-to-date charts, sailing directions, lists of lights, notices to mariners, tide tables and all other nautical publications necessary for the intended voyage. This power is necessary to give effect to the requirements of SOLAS 1974 in respect of nautical publications.

Sections 6, 7, 8 and 9 of the Bill simply amend certain sections of existing Merchant Shipping Acts for the purpose of extending the provisions of such sections so that effect can be given to the requirements of SOLAS 1974 in respect of pilot hoists, navigational equipment and cargo ship safety construction certificates.

The Bill, as Deputies will note, is primarily an enabling measure. The actual process of giving statutory effect to the detailed technical requirements of the convention will be done through technical regulations to be made under powers contained in previous Acts and in this Bill. These regulations will take the form of statutory instruments and they will be laid before the Dáil and Seanad in the customary manner.

I confidently recommend the Bill for the approval of the Dáil.

We on this side of the House welcome the Bill. Anything that includes safety at sea and safety on ships using our ports is to be welcomed, but I question seriously the working of the Bill and how it can be implemented when it is blatantly obvious that the Minister's Department do not have the personnel required to carry out the type of inspections which are so necessary. This Bill, unfortunately, like so much other legislation, is a result of reaction to events if not reaction to a disaster, that being the Whiddy Island disaster. It would be far better if we brought in legislation in good time to prevent such catastrophes in the country. It would be far better if we had personnel who were able to inspect these installations, whether on shore or on the ships themselves, to see that they are working properly and that they conform to the proper standards.

I question the availability of such personnel and I question the amount of finance which is being spent to make sure that the proper personnel are being provided and trained and also that the proper equipment is being provided on Irish-registered ships. I have good reason for doing that. Some of my information comes from journals, more of it from replies to Dáil questions and most of it from personnel who serve on Irish ships. The whole thing would lead one to believe that the position is highly unsatisfactory and still highly dangerous. For instance, on 5 February last, just two months ago, the Minister in reply to a Dáil question told us that there was not a nautical surveyor and examiner in his Department. Surely the essence of any inspection is that you have a nautical surveyor and examiner to find out what is happening on those ships and to inspect the equipment. It transpired in reply to the same question that we depend on the British authorities to set examinations for certificates of competency for deck and engineer officers and we depend upon their standards completely. We do not seem to have any method by which we can carry out examinations ourselves. We as a maritime country surely should have the basic facilities available to train people and examine them within our own Department. Seemingly that is not the case.

According to The Maritime Journal of Ireland, autumn-winter edition 1980, it seems that the personnel are just not available. I will quote briefly from that journal:

The delegation from the Merchant Marine Committee of the Maritime Institute of Ireland met Mr. Richard Burke

—that is the Transport Commissioner

in Dublin on Sept. 12 to express the Institute's support for the proposed new laws, on ship safety and the banning of sub-standard ships and vessels with sub-standard crews from E.E.C. waters.

The meeting followed Mr. Burke's speech in Cork earlier that week when he spoke of the problems of shipping safety and that of oil tankers in particular.

That primarily is what we are dealing with in today's Bill.

However, the delegation pointed out to Mr. Burke that even if the new E.E.C. directives were made law in the morning, Ireland could not enforce them as at present the responsible authority, the Department of Transport cannot carry out its functions in some areas.

For example, they instanced the lack of the marine engineering examinations conducted by the Department which were suspended temporarily in 1977, owing to the lack of qualified staff. "Today, three years later, there is still no definite news as to when they will be restarted. Letters to the Minister in question Mr. Albert Reynolds on this subject have so far gone unanswered."

The Bill does not really mean an awful lot when we have not the personnel to implement its provisions. Apparently we have not got trained personnel in the Department of Transport to inspect these vessels or even to train personnel to operate these vessels. It has to be done abroad, and that is a highly unsatisfactory situation.

It has been obvious for many years that the standard of equipment and of supervision of the operation of the Irish-registered shipping fleet has not been up to standard. I constantly get complaints from personnel who are serving aboard Irish ships about the lack of concern in this country for these safety standards. For instance, I do not know if the Minister is aware, but the fire-fighting regulations on board Irish registered ships are deplorable and frequently are commented upon by the crew members and officers of these ships. Up to 1978 the following defects were principally noticeable. There is no facility in the Republic for the examination of engineers. That confirms what is in The Maritime Journal of Ireland. Secondly, there is only one examiner in the whole country for masters and mates, and that man also has to set out papers and generally manage the maritime affairs of the country generally. That is just one man for the whole country. Thirdly, there is no approved fire-fighting course in the Republic. That is not funny. It is not a joke. That is a very serious indictment of the Department. I believe that up to a few years ago there was not even a first aid course nor was there a survival course. Personnel were not trained in either of these. I believe now that those two courses have been implemented but personnel serving on the ships tell me that neither of them is satisfactory, neither of them is up to national or international standards. I would like the Minister to inquire into the standard of the courses in question and in particular to see if a fire-fighting course has been brought in. If not, when is it going to be brought in? That is the greatest danger of all, as we saw at Whiddy Island and elsewhere. We need fire-fighting equipment and fire-fighting courses if we are going to prevent major disasters.

I am told also that Irish-registered ships are infrequently examined to see that the very regulations which are set out in this Bill today are being implemented. Such examinations are very infrequent, and the reason is obvious. We have not got the trained personnel to do them. That is a highly unsatisfactory state of affairs. For instance, I am told that no self-contained breathing apparatus is available on Irish ships. In other words, if fire breaks out aboard an Irish registered ship there is no breathing apparatus available. If no fire-fighting course is available how are the crew expected to deal with any such situation? Also nowadays there is a vast increase in the amount of chemical industry in this country which involves bringing to this country lots of toxic and inflammable materials. Again, for instance, if a container ruptures we have not got the facilities on board these ships to deal with the emergency. I believe that only one shipping company serving this country provides protective suits, breathing apparatus and proper fire-fighting apparatus. That is only one company out of dozens. The reason is that the law as it stands does not demand it. How could the law demand it when there are no courses available to enable people to implement it? I would like the Minister to bear those things in mind.

I believe the checks on those ships are so infrequent that shipowners can ignore the provision of very basic safety precautions. Something will have to be done about this immediately. What is being done to see that the very basic necessities are provided? Shipowners, like any business interests, will do things on the cheap if they can get away with it. If they can get away with inferior radio equipment or navigational aids they will not provide proper radio equipment or navigational aids. Why should they provide them when we have not got inspectors to see that such equipment is provided?

The Bill before the House has so much rhetoric it is hardly worth the paper it is written on. The personnel must be provided to ensure that the proper equipment is provided. The Bill is merely a reaction to the Betelgeuse disaster in Bantry Bay. The findings of the Bantry Bay tribunal showed a disgraceful state of affairs in relation to our maritime management. Fire hoses were not working; in other instances hoses were not provided and connections were so rusty they could not possibly be used. What action is being taken against the companies and individuals responsible? This is indicative of what is happening in our shore and ship installations. Anybody involved in shipping would not be surprised if there were a further disaster. Such disasters may not be of the same magnitude as the Bantry Bay disaster and may not involve oil tankers but, because many of the ships have not got the most basic equipment, we are inviting disaster.

There would certainly be a public outcry, if such a disaster happened, why this was not done or why this equipment was not provided. It is too late then. This Parliament is the forum to see that things are changed and that proper equipment is provided. I cannot see anybody doing anything to rectify the situation. The maritime journal of Ireland is probably the most independent and the most responsible voice that we have got in Maritime Journal of Ireland is probably fied with the present standards on our ships. Will the Minister tell us how many people in his Department are on this work, where they are employed and how often those ships are checked? I have been told that it would not be unusual for a ship not to be checked even once in a year.

As a result of the Torrey Canyon disaster off the French coast and the Betelgeuse in Bantry Bay, other countries brought in very stringent regulations. Every ship, which enters the ports of France and Britain, is examined to see that it has the proper equipment and safety standards. I do not believe even one in one thousand ships is examined here for the same deficiencies. How many of the small ports in the country are regularly visited by the safety officers from the Minister's Department to see what the standard of equipment is like aboard the ships which dock in them? You get many ships flying a flag of convenience, such as the Liberian and Panamanian, that will not uphold safety standards if they can get away with it. They are operating in those countries simply because of that and are doing things on the cheap. While they are signatories to the convention which the Minister referred to, the Safety of Life at Sea Convention, 1974, that does not bind them to the standards in question. If those people were prosecuted the Minister would have a most protracted law case in the international courts. There is no certainty we would win such a case.

We should do what has been done in France, Britain and other countries that are alive to the dangers of bad equipment. We should ensure, in the case of any ship which is found to be deficient, that not only should the owners be prosecuted but that ship should be detained in port until the proper equipment is provided and proper standards are adhered to. We have a Merchant Shipping Act, 1894, which is referred to at length in the Bill and in the Minister's statement. I have never heard of any prosecution brought under that Act although I am sure hundreds of prosecutions should have been brought under it. I have never seen a prosecution brought against a shipowner for not providing proper standards of safety. Will the Minister tell us what is being done? Are ships coming in and out of our ports day after day which are not up to standard? The Betelguese was a disastrous example of bad safety standards. When the Bantry Bay inquiry was held we saw all the deficiencies. It was not just that the ship lacked a helium inert gas system to prevent the type of explosion which occurred but the ship was corroded. Numerous faults were found. Who is going out from the Minister's Department today investigating the same type of ship? How often are such ships being inspected?

The countries I have mentioned also monitor the movement of ships around our coast, particularly ships carrying dangerous cargoes like oil, nuclear waste or toxic material. This is done because of a public outcry in France and in Britain and because of action by the seamen's union, who will not tolerate the haphazard type of arrangements we have. That day is gone especially in the English Channel area. Those ships are monitored from the moment they enter French or British waters until they leave.

What are we doing? Radio communications around our coast are not good. I have been told that at times there is a virtual blackout in radio communications between land and sea especially between Cork and Rosslare. It is not unusual for a ship or trawler to get into trouble off Ballycotton or the Waterford coast and the only station which picks up the distress signal is Lands End. If that station were not good enough to relay the message back to our sea rescue service we could have major disasters off our shores. We have not even got the radio network to monitor the movement of ships in our waters not alone answer their distress calls.

I have repeatedly raised this matter in the Dáil but nothing has been done. The pilot station at Dunmore East, whose function is to act as a coastguard service, is the only station capable of picking up those messages but its range is limited. The pilots in that area have repeatedly called for a VHF station to be set up on that coastline to help in the case of a disaster. There have been major disasters, such as the Fastnet Yacht race two years ago, when many people lost their lives. Our radio stations are not equipped to deal with that type of situation. I know it costs money and it takes personnel but such equipment will have to be provided. The trouble is that this will be done when a further disaster occurs. It is the old Irish adage that you close the stable door when the horse has bolted. Will the Minister make sure that every precaution is taken to ensure disasters do not occur? Even with the best will in the world accidents can happen. There are disasters in every country — air or road crashes or disasters at sea — because of a weakness in the craft, but we must eliminate as far as possible the incidence of such errors.

There has been talk, although it was denied in this House, that there will be a one-way system of shipping operating around Britain. This is being considered because of the frequency of collisions in the English Channel. Almost monthly there are collisions in that area and one of them will end up in a major explosion. These discussions have been denied in this House but every officer in a sea-going vessel knows this is a fact. At present the British and French have two lanes. Ships going from the Atlantic to the North Sea keep to the French side of the coast and ships coming from the North Sea to the Atlantic keep to the British side of the English Channel, but even that has not proved to be satisfactory. The channel between Dover and Boulogne is quite narrow and there have been numerous accidents in that area. If it is decided that ships will operate a one-way system around Britain, the Irish Sea will be used as part of that system. The Minister should make it his business to find out how far that proposal has gone. If it happens it will increase the dangers of accidents in the Irish Sea.

The bulk of our sea-going traffic is between Ireland and Britain and travels at right angles to other traffic which will be going up and down the Irish Sea. The Fishguard-Rosslare, Dun Laoghaire-Holyhead, Dublin-Liverpool and Belfast-Larne traffic would be crossing one another's lane. Any attempt to send heavy traffic, especially tankers, up the Irish Sea should be strenuously opposed by the Government and I am giving them this warning in time because despite denials this matter is being discussed.

Two years ago we had a most disturbing incident which showed the contempt with which we are treated in maritime affairs. There is obviously a feeling abroad that we are a soft touch. The Cristos Bitas went on the rocks off the Welsh coast and was badly holed. The captain was told to get away from the Welsh coast as quickly as possible. I do not know if the British authorities or the ship owners told him to move but where did that ship go? Twenty-four hours later it was off the Wexford coast presenting a serious pollution hazard. Why did this happen? In my view, it happened because the captain knew he could get away with it, because we, as a country, would not create a stink. He would not have taken the ship to the French coast because it would have created an international incident. In maritime affairs we are regarded as a soft touch and that should not be so. We should assert ourselves and ensure that such an event does not recur. Luckily the incidence of pollution from that ship was not very great, but it could have been.

I asked the Minister if any prosecution had been taken because a ship did not conform with our safety standards. I think that is an interesting question because I suspect there was not even one such case, and I suspect there should have been a great many.

It should make the "Guinness Book of Records".

According to yesterday's newspapers we intend exporting toxic waste which cannot be safely disposed of here. That is another likely source of danger.

We discussed dumping at sea previously.

Many cargoes coming to this country are highly dangerous. In recent years a number of chemical plants have been set up here which necessitate the importation of dangerous substances. I am told by personnel on Irish ships that they do not have the facilities to combat any spillages which may occur if some of the containers rupture, nor do they have the means to fight fires which might break out.

Some of the materials being imported, such as hydrogen fluoride, are very dangerous when they come into contact with water. Is the Minister aware that we are importing very large amounts of that material? When dissolved in water it gives the very corrosive and poisonous hydro-fluoric acid. It does not confine itself to a liquid; it vaporises very quickly and is highly toxic to the skin and highly poisonous. The personnel on the ships carrying this material are not equipped to deal with any emergency which might occur and I do not believe the Department are taking the proper precautions to deal with matters of this kind.

We need a coastguard service to prevent maritime disasters and to inspect ships suspected of being of a low standard. The Minister has repeatedly said there is no need for such a service, but I emphatically say there is. The bland answer we get is that the Naval Service will perform these duties. At present the Naval Service have many duties to perform, some of which they were not set up to carry out. Their primary function at the moment is as a fishery protection service. Their resources are spread out very thinly because we have a 2,000 mile coastline. They are observing the practices of foreign trawlers — Spanish, Dutch, French, Russian and so on and they are not in a position to carry out the type of service which should be done by a coastguard service.

The personnel of the Naval Service cannot be jacks-of-all-trades. They cannot be trained to deal with every contingency — fire protection, fire precaution, preventing spillage of toxic waste, examining substandard ships and so on. We must have a specialised service for that duty. The volume of shipping is increasing and smaller ports are being used more often because of high transport costs, it is imperative that we have a specialised service to ensure that ships coming here are of a proper standard and that they are not carrying materials which are dangerous to the public at large.

This country has become known as a soft touch when it comes to drug smuggling, because of inadequate arrangements at our ports. It has been used even to a greater degree as an intermediary, from the Continent to Ireland, from Ireland to Britain. A lot of this could be prevented, and I am not just speaking of general contraband. It could be drugs or guns or explosives, and obviously they are coming in.

Therefore, I must stress the importance of a coastguard service. We are far too vulnerable to ruffians and pirates of all sorts who can come in here and get away scot free. There is very little chance of them being apprehended under our present system. We need an organised system of coastguarding to prevent that type of trafficking. An organised coastguard service to do the work I am talking about could also engage in the inspection of old ships of inferior quality. The Bill refers to ships registered in Ireland and those using Irish ports but it does not refer to ships sailing through our coastal waters, vessels that could be seriously deficient. That is a glaring loophole in the Bill.

I will give some specific information in regard to instances of possible contravention of this law. Two months ago we had a major foot and mouth disease scare. There had been an outbreak in the Isle of Wight following a widespread epidemic in the Cherbourg Peninsula. In the heart of my constituency, Dunmore East, 22 French trawlers tied up without any restriction whatsoever. That was at the height of the outbreak. There is an illustration of the laxity of our maritime laws. Twenty-two French ships came into port without any of them being examined to see if they were carrying any substance which might be conducive to the spread of the disease — a lamentable state of affairs.

I am pointing out that the Bill is not worth the paper it is written on unless it provides that the personnel be employed to see that its provisions are implemented. All the evidence, whether elicited by way of parliamentary question or in articles in maritime journals, indicates that we have not got the personnel. Incidents such as those which the introduction of this Bill seeks to prevent will recur until such personnel are provided.

I will point to another loophole in the Bill. Section 4 provides that it shall be a defence in proceedings for an offence under the section to prove that at the time of the alleged offence for a ship not registered in the State to say that the ship had been obtaining shelter in Irish waters. That should not be a defence. There could be all sorts of defects in such a vessel. Ships which are just sailing through our waters should have the necessary safety requirements in operation and it should not be a defence to say ships had been sheltering in our waters. They could have engine trouble. That kind of a defence is like a person absent from work saying he had a pain in his back. Who is to say he had not?

Would the Deputy like to deny them that right of shelter?

I can see it being used. It is open-ended. From my experience I can say it will be hard to convict them if they plead such a defence. However, we welcome the Bill, ineffective as it may be because of present manning standards in the Department. We hope to see proper personnel recruited and trained.

We in the Labour Party welcome the Bill. The Minister described it as an enabling measure but we regard it as of great importance. The safety at sea aspect of shipping has been neglected for too long. The Minister outlined the involved history of this type of maritime law between 1960 and 1974 when the convention was signed. It seems remarkable that seven years should have elasped before we decided to introduce this Bill. Although it has been described as an enabling measure, the Bill provides powers for the Minister to do certain things by regulation. The Minister said:

The actual process of giving statutory effect to the detailed technical requirements of the convention will be done through technical regulations to be made under powers contained in previous Acts and in this Bill.

He said such regulations will be laid before the House, but sections 3 and 5 also give him power to make regulations. Will those regulations be laid before the House for annulment or approval?

There are a number of questions I should like the Minister to answer. Will he tell us whether the 1974 convention was laid before the House? Perhaps if it had been it would have given us an opportunity to broaden the debate on this Bill.

We do not need to stress the importance of provisions for safety of life at sea, particularly in the case of merchant shipping. This is described as the Merchant Shipping Bill, 1981, but can the Minister tell us if there are in existing legislation sufficient safety precautions for passenger boats? Perhaps such provision exists in separate legislation. The Minister might let me know if that legislation in respect of passenger boats is up to date.

We had the vivid description from Deputy Deasy of the awful tragedy at Whiddy Island and the great necessity for adequate precautions in regard to tankers. This is one of the most important aspects of safety at sea. In a case like that we are concerned not alone with the safety of the crew which is of paramount importance but we are concerned with the safety of the cargo. There is another aspect of which all Members of the House are conscious. That is the awful pollution and the danger and the damage that can be done to our beaches and bird life and so on. I am concerned in any case to get more information about tanker safety. I suppose it is all very well for us to criticise the present Minister of State. But we have all been neglectful in this respect. This goes back to 1960 and various Governments have been neglectful, including the two of which I was a member. But that does not excuse the Minister from his responsibility and we trust that with his usual vigour he will introduce regulations which will provide for greater safeguards.

Approximately 68 countries have signed this convention and they are, I presume, taking the necessary steps in their own parliaments to implement the various provisions in it. But in these 68 countries — and I suppose Ireland is included — there are fishing fleets making very long journeys and I would like to know whether they are excluded, as they appear to be. There are also cargo ships of under 500 tons and I would like to know whether these are included. I do not know the reference in the convention to the particular regulation. I would also like to know whether ships of war are included because there are people on these as well, and whilst they have to undergo certain risks in warfare which we certainly do not anticipate at present, in normal times these could be adversely affected by lack of certain precautions.

There is another aspect about which I would like to get information. In regard to ships which are not normally engaged in international voyages but which may wish to make a single international voyage I am informed that they are exempted from the provisions of this Bill. It seems to me that the 1972 convention takes a big risk in exempting such ships. I would like to know precisely whether or not they are exempt. Safety regulations are, of course, obligatory but the whole question of seaworthiness as expressed in the international convention of 1974 seems to be relaxed in the single international voyage situation.

The Minister made some reference to instructions on the safe packaging and storage of goods or cargo but perhaps he would expand in his reply. There are certain ships with certain types of cargo that are at very high risk, for example, those carrying gas, explosives, inflammable liquids, solid goods liable to spontaneous combustion. As the Minister said, there is a danger in having a large amount of grain cargo on a ship.

Having said that, I agree absolutely with Deputy Deasy when he talks about an inspectorate. We pass a great deal of legislation here in this House. The last was in relation to dumping at sea and again we did not provide for any sort of inspectorate. If this measure is to be of any use at all, consideration must be given to this. The Minister must tell us now what sort of an inspecting team we will have, where it will be recruited from and so on because we can have all this embodied in legislation. If we do not have the inspectorate to ensure that the requirements laid down by the Minister are met by shipowners then the measure itself goes for nothing. Will there be checks on log books and entries relating to safety? For example, included in this particular measure or regulation that may be made, is there any reference to ballast, to derricks, lifting gear, machinery, electrical installations, steering gear, auxiliary steering gear and radar? All these things are of the utmost importance as far as safety at sea is concerned.

That is all I want to say apart from welcoming the Bill and joining with Deputy Deasy in saying that the Bill will be worth nothing if there are no inspectors to ensure that the regulations are observed by the shipowners.

I welcome the Bill because I hope it will enable the Minister to make a regulation which I am particularly interested in. I am speaking specifically about the operation of ferry boats from small ports, particularly from Dunquin to the Blasket Islands. I am seriously concerned following a number of letters I got from very frightened people. In one particular instance there were 55 people on board this ferry with no life jackets and no safety precautions whatsoever. The county manager in Kerry got the same representations and he felt he was unable to introduce any regulations to combat this very serious situation that exists.

I understand from the county manager that ferry boats that carry 12 passengers are licensed by the local authority but that ferry boats which carry over 12 passengers have to be licensed by the Department. The people I am referring to have never applied for a licence. If they were taken to court at the moment they would only be liable to a fine of £2 under an Act of 1908. There is no mention of amending the 1908 Act to bring it up to date. I am very seriously concerned about this. I am frightened that something will happen because I cannot imagine 55 people on board the type of craft that is operating that service at the moment. If that boat were to hit some type of flotsam floating in the Blasket Island sound, which is possible because there is a very strong current, something serious would happen.

I thank the Minister for bringing this Bill before the Dáil and for giving me the opportunity of bringing this up. The county manager is so concerned about it that he has contacted the Department in an effort to get a necessary regulation made and have the law amended immediately. I appeal to the Minister not to wait for weeks but to do it now. He has plenty of correspondence in his Department. I have contacted the Minister, Deputy Reynolds, on this issue and he has acknowledged my representations. I hope the Minister will do something today even if it means putting an extra section into this Bill. Otherwise I have no doubt that we will have a tragedy in Kerry. A quick wind could blow up and where would those 55 people aboard this craft be? I hate these fly-by-night operators. We have a good reputation in Kerry for looking after our tourists. I appeal to the Minister — he has the ball at his feet — to add another section to this Bill to cover ferry boats offering these services. The people in the Dingle Peninsula, the licensing authority of the Kerry County Council and the passengers who use that ferry will be grateful.

I am delighted with the universal acceptance of the Bill as being a suitable measure in a continuation of measures dealing with maritime safety. I recognise the deep commitment of the speakers and their concern that we should do everything essential to maintain the highest possible standards both nationally and internationally in dealing with matters of safety at sea.

As Deputy Deasy said, the question of personnel is of paramount importance in dealing with this legislation. While there is an element of truth in what Deputy Deasy says about the full complement of staff necessary, it is not true that we are incapable of dealing with the number of applications and inspections needed. We have three nautical surveyors on the staff and a fourth vacancy is to be filled. It has not always been easy to get suitably qualified staff to apply for these positions when advertised but we hope to strengthen that section of the maritime division.

Deputy Deasy was right in that we have an arrangement with the British authorities concerning examinations for certain types of personnel to man our ships. This was a reasonably good arrangement and I ask Deputies to support the point of view that it provides for good standardisation if we operate under the examination papers being set and corrected by competent authorities in Britain. Some examinations take place here but they are set and corrected by the British authorities. This is not a bad arrangement seeing that we do not deal with the same numbers of maritime staff as do Britain which is a huge maritime nation.

I do not object to that procedure so long as we have sufficient staff.

That was the idea in allowing arrangements to be made in consultation with the British authorities. It has worked reasonably well.

The Deputy also mentioned the question of personnel on board ship. It has always been accepted that manning levels on our ships have been up to the highest international standards. What the Deputy says about manning levels on other ships might be true. A doubt was expressed recently that some ships might not have had the appropriate complement of staff.

The Deputy also referred to fire-fighting measures on board ships and arrangements in relation to equipment on board ships registered here. It has always been accepted that close attention is paid in the issuing of certificates to all that kind of equipment which is regarded as essential for fire-fighting purposes. The Deputy can rest assured that we aim to provide a certificate so that all and sundry can recognise that the best fire-fighting equipment is on board.

I am told that there is no fire-fighting course here for ships and that there is no self-contained breathing apparatus approved of by the Department.

Under the Fire Brigade Acts a fire fighting course is primarily the responsibility of the Department of the Environment. Practical arrangements with the Department of the Environment have been worked out and are at completion stage. We hope that we will be able to accommodate the Deputy's anxiety in that regard in the near future. I can readily see the need for a suitable course and we are in the final stages of arrangements with the Department in that regard. As far as fire-fighting services are concerned generally, while there is always room for improvement it is generally accepted that there is a very high level of expertise and dedication within our fire brigades and that the very best of equipment has been provided by most of the local authorities. I was at a recent conference dealing with that and it was generally accepted that the best of equipment is made available to fire brigades. But, as the Deputy says, we need an overall course so that we will have an integrated system. That view is receiving active consideration.

A point was raised about the infrequent examination of ships. That is not accurate at all. We have an arrangement of annual and bi-annual surveys and certificates are issued by the Department surveyors on an annual and bi-annual basis. It is interesting to note that we deal with certain types of surveys on an annual basis. They include all kinds of passenger ships together with radio and communications equipment. We have a bi-annual survey of all types of cargo ships which includes all life-saving equipment, fire-fighting equipment, construction and stability of ships, load lines and all that sort of thing. Certificates are issued and they have to be produced on entry to most ports. The surveys are carried out by surveyors in the Department of Transport and the necessary certificates are issued.

I made the point that all foreign registered ships entering French or British ports are examined. As far as I understand it that is not the case here.

I will deal with that in a moment. In relation to the carrying of toxic chemicals on ships and in relation to breathing apparatus and so on it is recognised that we comply with the very highest standards that apply through various conferences and protocols under IMCO regulations. The Deputy should put his mind at rest on that score.

This Bill is not just a reaction to the Betelgeuse disaster. The 1974 convention was only just ratified by a significant number of countries that had to ratify it before it became effective. It is not easy to get that number of countries, about two-thirds of all the countries contracting, to agree at the same time. Agreement has now been reached and consequently it is a matter that we can entertain in this legislation. The protocol of 1978, as Deputies know, has only come into force in May this year. It would not be justifiable to say that we are behind in relation to enacting the necessary legislation to bring it into force.

In case a question might be raised in relation to fire-fighting facilities at Bantry, the Minister for Labour has responsibility there and he has made very detailed safety regulations which will be complied with in any future operation which takes place there. While we all regret disasters and the unfortunate tragic loss of life, we have not had a great history of that type of disaster here. While I agree that that is no reason for complacency it would indicate that our performance to date has been well up to international standards. This legislation reinforces the view that we will make every necessary arrangements to ensure that we no not have a recurrence of such situations.

I agree with the Deputy that perhaps more random surveys should be undertaken. On-the-spot checks at random of certain types of operators would be a good thing. The Deputy may rest assured I have taken note of it and when the surveying staff complement in the Department is stepped up — it is difficult to recruit these people — I will point out that this is a good point and I will pay particular attention to having it included in the overall survey being undertaken by the Department on a year-to-year basis.

There is a very important EEC directive about to come into force. It concerns a check list. Every ship will have to have a check list which must be available to harbour masters and port authorities. They will have to prove they have an agreed check list of certificates before they can operate through any particular ports. We will take all the necessary steps to implement that because inherent in that directive is the best means of guaranteeing that all ships plying between this country and other ports comply with the regulations.

There was reference to certain more sophisticated systems of monitoring operated in other waters. I accept this as fair comment but I would point out that the Dover Straits have an exceptionally high level of traffic, one of the highest in the world, and for that reason it is absolutely essential to have very sophisticated technological radar in that area. With the level of traffic in the Irish Sea I doubt whether it would be necessary to have a similar system installed here. It is a point of view. At the moment we provide something short of that system.

The point I was making is that there is an incredible gap between Valentia Island and Land's End.

I shall deal with that. I do not mean to sound smart-alecky when I say this but if you have a great many countries accepting the provisions of certain conventions and protocols and they are applying the regulations, as the Deputy wants us to apply the regulations, the fact is ships do not develop peculiarities overnight. Ships have to ply from port to port. They do not operate out of some nameless port. It was suggested by the Deputy that many ports have very stringent regulations and apply these regulations rigorously. By and large the bulk of our traffic would be with those very ports. I do not say this as a reason why we should not be as vigilant as possible but ships move from our ports to other ports and once the check list system is adopted that will be a great advance in keeping very strict control on the movement of ships.

Reference was made to radio communication. I am pleased to say we are improving our communications. We have undertaken to step up the level of performance of our VHF services. That is essential. Deputy Corish was concerned about this as was Deputy Deasy. We must have a first-class communications system. We have taken the initial steps. The Deputy can have the details if he wishes. Tenders have been received and we are examining them in connection with various locations primarily along the west coast. Finance is being made available. There are difficulties with regard to sites and access to isolated areas. It is my intention to provide in the immediate future the most sophisicated system we possibly can along the west coast. I am talking now about Valentia and that area. Presumably that would satisfy the Deputy's requirements in that area. It would be my intention to cover the whole coastline in due course. I readily accept that this is not just necessary but essential.

Reference was made to the question of tonnage. Deputy Corish specifically referred to this. Our regulations are primarily concerned with tonnage over 500 tons. It is interesting to note, as I said on Second Stage, that it was intended originally that certain types of systems would apply only to ships over 100,000 tons. We are bringing that down to 20,000 because I believe we should make the situation as tight as possible where inert gas systems are concerned to solve some of the problems that have been experienced in some recent tragedies at sea. All new ships of 2,000 tons and more will have to be fitted with the inert gas system. That is the most important type of proportion that can be taken at the moment to solve some of the problems that have arisen as a result of explosions. The on-deck fault system may not be quite as important as the inert gas system but it does provide an added safeguard and will be applied in the case of all new ships. It will be applied in the case of older vessels on a time scale. That is a big advance.

Reference was made to the coastguard service. I have given particular attention to that and I agree with many of the points raised by the Deputy. We should have the best possible service. There will be a detailed examination and the necessary improvements will be made to bring the service up to the highest international standard. A good deal of finance is involved but I doubt if anyone would begrudge money spent in that area and it is almost as if one had——

Pre-empted.

Yes. That little matter has been exercising the Minister, Deputy Reynolds, and myself recently. We are abundantly aware of the need to improve the situation.

Debate adjourned.
Sitting suspended at 1.30 p.m. and resumed at 2.30 p.m.
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