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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 26 Apr 1983

Vol. 341 No. 9

Private Members' Business . - Central America: Motion .

: I move:

Dáil Éireann, recognising the seriousness of political repression and disregard for life which continues to afflict Central America, especially the conflicts within El Salvador and Guatemala and along the Honduran/ Nicaraguan border:

Expresses concern for the two million people and refugees forced to flee from their homes in El Salvador and Guatemala due to the conflict.

Condemns the continuing violation of human rights which has resulted in 46,637 dead in El Salvador since 1979.

Deplores the massacres, abductions, disappearances, tortures, extra-legal executions which are being used in Guatemala particularly against the indigenous population.

Condemns the failure of the Salvadorean Government to implement the recommendations of the 38th session of the Commission of Human Rights of the UN regarding the upholding of the rule of law and the punishment of members of the security forces and para-military organisations responsible for human rights violations.

Calls on all states to respect the right of each country in Central America to conduct its own affairs without outside interference and further calls for the suspension of arms supplied to and military support for the countries of the region.

Urges the Irish Government to continue to play an energetic role at the UN and other appropriate fora to help bring about a peaceful political solution to the problems of Central America and notes the urgency of the situation in the region, particularly in Nicaragua and El Salvador.

Supports all efforts to achieve a dialogue leading to negotiated political solutions in order to establish, in an atmosphere free from terror and intimidation, democratically elected governments in the region; and

Requests the Irish Government to make available to humanitarian bodies emergency aid to relieve the distress of refugees and other victims of violations.

: The Deputy has added a few words to the motion.

: By agreement.

: Today, I am looking to this House for solidarity and support for the people of Central America in their struggle for justice and survival.

In matters of gross and persistent violation of human rights; in situations of extreme human suffering, where basic survival is at stake, then, those of us who enjoy the full freedom of a democratic society must take up the task of denouncing these crimes against humanity which are taking place in Central America. The situation in Guatemala and El Salvador is morally intolerable and demands a bold stance and courageous action from those of us who are motivated by a deep sense of compassion for the victims of these horrible crimes.

On 10th December 1981 this House debated the situation in El Salvador and called for a negotiated political settlement to solve the deep crisis of that country. Today the situation has not improved and indeed it is worsening. The conflict in Guatemala has reached dimensions almost as serious and as grotesque as El Salvador and now we have what is termed a "covert" war trying to destabilise the Sandinista Government in neighbouring Nicaragua. This war is being waged from Honduras and tension is now so high between these two countries that there exists a possibility of full-scale war. Any one looking at a map of Central America will realise that such a war could ignite the whole of the region. It is crucial, therefore, that major efforts be made to solve these problems, before Central America becomes yet another quagmire into which the prospects for world peace sink deeper.

Furthermore, we here in Ireland have a special interest in the region because of the vital and courageous work which our missionaries are carrying out. I have been privileged to meet with them on the ground in El Salvador and in Nicaragua, when I travelled there with the Inter-Parliamentary delegation in January 1982. I have seen at first hand the atrocious conditions and constant fear under which they must work. I publicly pay tribute to the Franciscan Fathers and the Holy Claire Sisters for their work on behalf of the voiceless and the oppressed and for their courage in staying with their parishioners. Lest any of you think that I might be overstating the case, let me say that 26 priests and sisters have been killed in Guatemala and in El Salvador in the last two years including, of course, Archbishop Romero, of San Salvador shot while saying Mass in March of 1980.

It is difficult for most people to come to terms with the dimension of repression in Central America. During the Civil War in Nicaragua an estimated 60,000 people were killed. From the coup in El Salvador in October 1979 until the end of January 1983 the Human Rights Commission of El Salvador quoted a figure of 46,637 people killed. In Guatemala the Justice and Peace Committee detailed the Killing of over 10,000 Indian peasants since President Rios Montt took over in a coup of March 1982. Social, economic and cultural rights are virtually non-existent today in Central America. Torture, disapperances, assassination and wholesale massacres by the official security forces—police and military—and death squads and paramilitary groups continue to be persistent and systematic, particularly in Guatemala and El Salvador.

There have been very many international delegations representing government and private organisations visiting the Central American region in the last few years. Reports have been published by these delegations, which include among others members of the European Parliament, the Irish Inter-Parliamentary delegation, Canadian Parliamentary delegation, members of the US Senate and Congress, The Council of Europe, the British Council of Churches, and the Canadian Inter-Church Committee on Human Rights in Latin America. All of these delegations conclude that the systematic pattern of human rights violations within El Salvador continues to be perpetrated by the Salvadorean authorities. Moreover, each delegation has had extensive documentation provided to it by the Human Rights Committee of El Salvador and the Legal Aid Centre of the Archdiocese of San Salvador. This documentation includes personal testimonies, photographic material, and statistical reports which can be backed up by full files of information maintained in El Salvador.

The Army and the three major security forces are singled out as being the primary sources of institutional violence in El Salvador. They work alongside civil defence units in combined operations and they act in conjunction with Orden, a paramilitary right-wing group, which the Salvadorean Government claim was officially disbanded in 1979. Amnesty International, however, in a book published only two months ago state:

Testimonies received daily by Amnesty International implicate all branches of the Salvadorean Security Services in the killings. In addition to the regular armed forces, El Salvador also relies on special security forces such as the National Guard, which combines police and military functions, the National Police and the Treasury Police. All those units have repeatedly been named in reports of political killings. Recently, a special new unit trained by US military advisers has been blamed repeatedly for killing of unarmed peasants in rural areas.

Turning to Guatemala, the situation there regarding the behaviour of the armed forces and civilian army auxiliaries known as `Civil Defence Patrols' is no better. Survival International on 3 September 1982; the Institute for Policy Studies and Council on Hemispheric Affairs, August 1982; and the Inter-American Human Rights Commission of the Organisation of American States in August 1982 issued statements in which they lay the blame for the brutality and genocide occurring within Guatemala squarely on the shoulders of the Guatemalan Government. Moreover, Amnesty International, on the basis of extensive documentation received from March to July 1982, accused the Guatemalan Armed Forces of widespread killing, including the extra-judicial execution of large numbers of rural non-combatants, including entire families as well as persons suspected of sympathy with opposition groups.

: I presume that the Deputy is reading from notes.

: I am, from carefully taken notes, because we must be precise in making the references which I am making.

: The Chair must point out that a reading of a speech would not be in order, but it is quite in order to refer to notes.

: Thank you.

: I am sure that the Chair will make the same observation when the Minister is making his speech.

: I am sure that Deputy Andrews knows that Ministers——

: It is an unnecessary interruption.

: I accept the ruling of the Chair.

: I think that the Chair was very discreet in his interruption.

: It is a matter of interpretation.

: The argument has sometimes been used that much of the violence in Central America has been carried out by right wing death squads who are isolated from the normal functioning of the security forces. In this regard, it is useful to recall the testimony of the Salvadorean army captain which was made before the US House Appropriation Sub-Committee in April 1981. Captain Faillos testified as follows:

It is a grievous error to believe that the forces of the extreme right, or the so-called death squads operate independently of the Security Forces. The simple truth of the matter is that the death squads are made up of members of the Security Forces and acts of terrorism credited to the squads, such as political assassinations, kidnappings and indiscriminate murder are, in fact, planned by high ranking military officers and carried out by members of the Security Forces.

It is sometimes hard to grasp the dimension of the human tragedy which lies behind these types of statistics. However, on March 13 of this year, one woman was killed in El Salvador. She was somebody who was well known to many Members of this House — Marianella Garcia, cofounder of the El Salvador Human Rights Commission. Her death deprives Latin America of one of its most brilliant and fearless campaigners for human rights.

I first had the privilege of meeting Marianella Garcia at a Council of Europe Colloquium on Human Rights in Latin America held in Madrid in September of 1981. Subsequent to that, I organised a meeting with 22 representatives of Dáil Éireann on a visit by her to Dublin. I had an opportunity to study, at first hand, the method of work carried out by her commission when she briefed me and other members of the Inter-Parliamentary delegation prior to our visit to El Salvador in January 1982.

Marianella Garcia came from a well-to-do family and had established herself as one of the country's most promising criminal lawyers by the time political disappearances began to cause disquiet in 1977. She was a member of the Salvadorean Parliament and of the Christian Democratic Party. She was a professional woman from a privileged Salvadorean home. She gave up this life of ease and luxury to struggle against repression in her own country. Marianella travelled frequently to Europe to give testimony to the United Nations Commission on Human Rights about the disappearances and violence that went on in El Salvador. She had survived several attempts on her life, including one in 1978 when her home was bombed and a year later her car was fired on in broad daylight in San Salvador.

In 1979, while defending two young political prisoners in court, as she left the courtroom she was picked up by the National Guard who, acting on the advice of one of the judges, who was unable to deal with her competence in the court, had her interrogated in an attempt to intimidate her. However, she persisted with her work, meticulously following up every reported case of corpses which appeared on the rubbish heaps of San Salvador and endlessly presenting writs of habeas corpus on behalf of the families of disappeared persons. Marianella was finally forced to flee to Mexico early in 1981 after her name was published on a “death list” which was handed out to the national press in El Salvador by the military. From Mexico, she took over the international dimension of the Human Rights Committee's work, travelling to many countries and presenting the information which had been made available to her commission. It was Marianella's desire to fulfil that task with complete accuracy that led directly to her death. During recent months, there has been growing evidence that the military in El Salvador have obtained from some source chemical agents, including napalm, and are using them against the civilian population. Because two of the Human Rights Commission's best workers had disappeared last August, the commission were having difficulty in gathering the necessary evidence in such a way that it could be presented to the UN Human Rights Commission. Marianella took the decision in mid-January to go back into El Salvador to document the growing incidence of refugees with burns and blisters which would show the use of chemical agents.

Marianella Garcia was killed by the military some time between the evening of 13 March and 14 March, 1983, as she interviewed a group of 20 refugees in a camp some 25 km outside San Salvador, the capital. The details of her body injuries have led many organisations to believe that she was tortured before being killed. She had several bullet wounds in her head, part of her left arm was blown away, there were dozens of deep lacerations all over her body and both her legs were broken. The military of El Salvador issued a statement that Marianella Garcia had been killed when she was leading a guerrilla group. To those of us who knew this respectable, dedicated and meticulous lawyer who had steadfastly refused to join any of El Salvador's opposition organisations, this claim is as ridiculous as her murder was revolting. It seems strange to all of us who knew her that Marianella Garcia should herself have become yet another victim of the brutality in El Salvador.

One thing can be said with almost total certainty and that is that no-one will ever appear in court or be sentenced for the murder of Marianella Garcia. The judicial system in El Salvador and, indeed, in Guatemala is totally ineffective. Those members of the official security and parliamentary forces responsible for the torture, disappearance and assassination of tens of thousands of Salvadoreans have never been prosecuted or sentenced in court.

Even in the cases of those US citizens who have been killed in El Salvador and in spite of intense pressure by the United States Administration for an adequate investigation, there has not yet been a single case of anyone formally sentenced in court for the murders of the four North American sisters, or the two North American land reform advisers who were shot dead in the coffee shop of the Sheraton Hotel in 1981. Regarding the case of the US nuns and the lay missionary, which is of particular interest to us here in Ireland, given that Jean Donovan had studied in this country for over a year, the families of these missionaries have stated publicly in the United States that there has been a consistent attempt to cover up for the high-ranking military officers who were responsible for their murder.

In recent weeks, the Irish papers have carried details of the decision to formally delay the prosecution of five low-ranking members of the National Guard who were arrested in conjunction with the murder of the nuns. If this case seems to be blatant in its disregard for basic justice, then the manner in which the two persons accused of killing the North American land reform advisers is even more bizarre. Both of these were placed under the jurisdiction of the Fifth Penal Court in El Salvador. However, one of the accused, a Captain Avila, disappeared from El Salvador and is reputed to be living in a neighbouring country. The second officer, Lieutenant Lopez, according to the New York Times report of November 4, 1982, is now living in the safety of Miami and two judges have ruled that there is insufficient evidence to try him.

Another result of the violence in both Guatemala and El Salvador is the huge number of refugees and dispossessed people who have been forced to flee from their homes. As we have heard repeatedly, El Salvador is only the size of Munster and has a population of 4,500,000. One million Salvadoreans have been forced to leave their country as a result of the violence.

Half a million of them have left to seek refuge in neighbouring countries living a difficult life as refugees. Their situation has grown more precarious during 1982 as violence has increased in many countries in Central America. The borders of El Salvador have become militarised and many thousands of refugees have been killed trying to escape to the relative freedom of Honduras. This was highlighted for us by the Sunday Times in May of 1980 when they informed us of the murder of 600 Salvadoreans trying to cross the River Sumpul into Honduras.

Moreover, throughout the course of 1982 the International Community, through the United Nations High Commission for Refugees, have been alerted to the serious difficulties facing the estimated 100,000 Guatemalan refugees who have sought refuge within Mexico's borders. The Bishop of Chiapas in Mexico published a pastoral letter in August of 1982 in which he detailed the impunity with which members of the armed forces of Guatemala were able to cross the border and intervene in refugee camps removing innocent civilians who subsequently disappeared and were killed. Accurate statistical data on the extent of the number of displaced people inside Guatemala is difficult to obtain. However, the Guatemalan Bishops have estimated that up to one million persons have been displaced within the country and an additional 200,000 peasants have had to leave Guatemala. This means that one in every seven Guatemalan citizens are denied the basic and most fundamental right to freedom of movement and residence within their own country. As well as the grotesquely difficult life which faces these people, sometimes locked up in camps which resemble military detention centres, and unsure of the plight of loved ones and family members who were lost in the haste to leave, these refugees face an appalling future as no attempts to resolve the fundamental problems of the region are being made.

Any reasonable person might ask what has caused the situation? How is it possible that such murder and wanton killing can take place on such a scale in what are after all relatively small countries? In order to understand the denial of human rights, the political instability in Central America, we must look at the facts of the extreme deprivation of the majority of the population which has characterised that part of the world. The majority of the people in Central America live at subsistence level with their political and economic situation controlled by a small and wealthy élite in many cases backed by a series of governments who maintain their power by the most brutal and repressive measures. Central American countries should be reasonably easy for Ireland's people to understand. Their populations are not dissimilar to ours. The vast majority of the population are Roman Catholics and are closely tied to the land by culture and, of course, necessity.

El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua — under Somoza — were considered to be among the most backward and least developed countries in Latin America. About 65 per cent of the population are peasants who economically live at subsistence level intensively working small plots of land and frequently having to seek employment as sharecroppers on large estates in order to survive. A large section of the population of Central America have a very low income indeed, are illiterate, have no means of political participation and live in a state that can only be described as extreme social and economic deprivation. These disparities between the wealthy land-owning elite and the mass of the populations have caused serious political upheaval in Central America throughout this century. In Guatemala, for example, one of the main causes of social injustice is the inequality of land ownership. Land is the key to survival in Guatemala and yet 72 per cent of the country's total land is owned by a tiny 2.1 per cent of the population. Land, therefore, represents a source of wealth and for the majority of the Guatemalan people it is their only means of livelihood.

Moreover, the pattern of agricultural production further impoverishes the majority of the Central American people. Large estates are dedicated to export crops of which coffee, cotton, sugar cane and bananas are the most important. Such cash crops demand a large supply of labour. Since the majority of peasants in El Salvador and Guatemala have no land there is plenty of labour available and this also contributes to the very low wages which seasonal workers receive. Most people would be astonished to know that in Guatemala, according to World Bank statistics, agricultural labourers receive an annual wage of £127. The result then of such unequal distribution of land and an emphasis on the export of cash crops at the expense of producing basic food for people has resulted in extreme poverty for the majority of the people in the area.

Hunger and malnutrition are daily problems in Central America. El Salvador for example, has the lowest calorie intake per capita in the entire Latin American Continent. Seventy five per cent of children under five years of age suffer from malnutrition and infant mortality figures are very high indeed. As one might expect life expectancy is considerably lower than it is in Europe. Housing conditions are grossly inadequate. In Guatemala, for example, endemic disease among the poorer sections of the urban population and rural areas is a major problem and results in the fact that 94 per cent of Guatemala's population do not have access to something as basic and simple as running water. The rural population have a lack of medical services which, coupled with poor public health infrastructure, means that few people have on a regular basis any type of even primitive health care.

All of the countries of Central America have compulsory education at primary level. However, the Central American high birth rate means that most countries in the area have up to 50 per cent of their population under fifteen years of age.

Let us turn now to the situation existing inside Nicaragua. I do not think it necessary for me to go over the corruption and excesses of the Somoza period which ended in 1979. The Somozas ran Nicaragua like a personal estate. They grew rich in the low wage export economy of Nicaragua, policed by the National Guard. The family owned farms, businesses and shares not only in Nicaragua but also in neighbouring countries. By 1979, it was estimated that Somoza was worth 500 million dollars.

In the midst of much propaganda and rhetoric about Nicaragua, let us have the facts of what the Sandinistas have achieved and let them speak for themselves. I am quoting now from a bulletin prepared by the London-based Catholic Institute for International Relations which says:

The achievements of the Sandinistas reflect their priorities and support in the country. The poor are both beneficiaries of and participants in the rebuilding of Nicaragua. In a period of approximately eight months the Nicaraguan Government implemented a massive literacy campaign throughout the country which reduced illiteracy from 53 to 12 per cent of the population. This earned Nicaragua the UNESCO 1980 Prize for Literacy. In under three years, 1,258 schools have been built; 464 of these directly by the State and 764 by community efforts with materials donated by the State.

Health expenditure has risen dramatically. The rate of infant mortality has declined significantly as a result of the health campaigns, widespread health education and improved health services. The Government have taken special measures to ensure the availability of basic necessities such as maize, rice and beans and the World Bank recognises that Nicaragua has recovered very rapidly from the war and significantly raised agricultural production for the local market. The Sandinistas have done this by bringing the expropriated Somoza estates into a land reform which has cultivated idle land. Moreover, the Sandinistas have stressed that efficient farmers, regardless of the size of their farm, have nothing to fear. Their priority is to make Nicaragua's land as productive as possible.

Moreover, the economy of Nicaragua is a mixed one. Those of us who have been listening in recent days to the claim that Nicaragua is a Marxist-Leninist State will be surprised to note that 70 per cent of all productive assets remain in private hands — hardly a Marxist State. Eighty per cent of all agricultural production is still in the hands of the private sector, including the important cotton estates which form the backbone of Nicaragua's exports. Through the nationalisation of Somoza's land holdings, the State controls indirectly about 26 per cent of the country's land, but only half of this is cultivated land.

Can many Central Americans then, who are poor and exploited, be blamed for turning to Nicaragua to look for an example of the way forward?

Let us turn now to look at some of the international implications of the Central American situation. One of the ways in which unrepresentative political forces have been able to stay in power in Central America has been through the substantial military and economic aid that has been given to them by successive governments of the United States.

Many people in Europe, and in the United States, particularly in the Congress and among the Bishops' Conference, have argued that what is needed in each of the Central American republics are negotiated solutions and not military ones. If we take the case of El Salvador, I have to note with alarm the massive increases in US aid over the last three years. In 1980, the US Government gave just under six million dollars in military aid and this had increased to 82 million in 1983. At the same time Congressmen protested that 65 per cent of all military aid going down to El Salvador is taken from emergency funds available to the US President under the Foreign Assistance Act. Senator Barnes of the Congress Sub-Committee on Inter-American Affairs has stated that this is an unnecessary precedent which is being used by the Reagan Administration to avoid a full and democratic debate on increasing involvement of the United States within El Salvador. That has been taken from the Presidential Clarification on El Salvador, volume 1, hearings before the sub-committee on Inter-American affairs of the Committee of Foreign Affairs of which Senator Barnes is chairman.

In particular, it is worth noting some of the important statements that have been made by the Catholic Bishops in the United States in which they criticise the Government's policy. Let me quote an abstract from a letter by Archbishop Hickey, Archbishop of Washington, to the Inter-American Affairs Sub-Committee. He said:

Now, more than ever, we, as Americans, need to encourage a political and economic solution to the massive injustices still current in El Salvador. These are the core of the conflict. If justice and an opportunity for a decent life are assured for the campesinos it would undermine those who desire to prolong the conflict. At their annual meeting in November, the American Catholic Bishops strongly reaffirmed certain principles which they consider are important for the United States policies towards El Salvador. In the face of renewed debate on Capitol Hill they bear repeating: (1) opposition to outside military assistance from any source. The Bishops supported political means (i.e. collaboration with other countries) to ban from elsewhere as they opposed the importation of arms from the United States; (2) support of the call of Archbishop River y Damas for a broad-based political solution to be achieved by a halt to the conflict and constructive dialogue among all parties.

Also, let me quote from Archbishop Roche, in his capacity as President of the United States Catholic Conference. He said:

Internal issues of social justice and human rights are the principal questions in El Salvador. Increasing United States military involvement — our present direction — is not a contribution to redressing these internal questions. It is a dangerous course with a result as potentially damaging to us as it is to Salvadoreans.

It is for these reasons that I would like to call on the Irish Government to play an energetic role in the United Nations to seek a negotiated solution to the problems of El Salvador and also to find ways of stopping the threat to destabilise Nicaragua. Successive Irish Governments have made many important statements at the United Nations and our record on Central America is a good one. Moreover, at its recent session in March of this year, Ireland was elected to the vice-chairmanship of the UN Commission on Human Rights. This places us in an extremely important position as regards work to prevent further violation of human rights in El Salvador and Guatemala and above all to fight for ways of ensuring that the rule of order is applied in both Guatemala and El Salvador.

In my view, the Irish Government should attempt immediately to get a discussion going at the level of the Council of Ministers of the EEC in order to support within the United Nations the initiatives being put forward by the Contadora countries. In this way, we would be helping those democratic civilian governments in Latin America, who are close to the problem and knowledgeable about its impact, to put forward a programme which will guarantee a long-term solution for the Central American problem. Ireland, as a small country, with no vested interest in the conflict, and with a high moral standing within the United Nations and in Europe, is in a unique position to proclaim the urgent need for the creation of new and just social, economic and political structures in Central America.

On the other hand, we must attempt to make some effort to alleviate the terrible distress being suffered by refugees and victims of violations of human rights in the area.

In this regard, I would request our Government to make available from the Emergency Aid Budget, funds to humanitarian organisations who are providing much needed food and medicines for these refugees. Moreover, at the level of the EEC Commission, our Government should urge our representatives to insist that the Commission continue to provide emergency aid to Guatemalan and Salvadorean refugees and that a substantial proportion of this be forwarded through the non-governmental organisations who have the ability to ensure that aid rapidly reaches those most in need.

Finally, in the tradition of Ireland, I reiterate the view that each of the Central American Republics has a fundamental right to self-determination. We who live in free and democratic societies, must work for the establishment of genuine democracies in the area. We must prevent further bloodshed taking place. We must ensure that assassinations, disappearances, arbitrary imprisonment, acts of terrorism, kidnappings and torture and a complete lack of respect of the dignity of the human person be stopped forthwith.

: I am calling on Deputy De Rossa to move his amendment.

: Should I not be next?

: The instruction I received from the Ceann Comhairle was that the next speaker was Deputy De Rossa because he has tabled an amendment. I am only acting on the instructions of the Ceann Comhairle.

: Is it not normal when an agreed amendment is moved by a member of the Opposition that a member on the Government side is called on to speak next?

: I have just arrived in the Chair and the instruction I received from the Ceann Comhairle was to call on Deputy De Rossa to move his amendment to the original motion.

: With due respect this is most unusual. The Government are allowed to put their point of view always on a matter such as this. I cannot understand who gave those instructions to the Chair.

: The Minister will have to accept that I received those instructions from the Ceann Comhairle.

: I accept that the Leas-Cheann Comhairle received instructions but the normal procedure is that debate moves across the house. In Private Members' Time if the Opposition move a motion the second speaker is a member of the Government side. Why has the procedure been changed on this occasion?

: If it is in order I am willing to give way to the Minister if I may speak immediately afterwards.

: I am acting on the instructions of the Ceann Comhairle.

: I reserve the right to speak following the Minister.

: The Deputy cannot reserve the right to speak. According to Standing Orders, Deputy De Rossa must move his amendment.

: Could he not move his amendment when he makes his speech?

: I will call on the Minister and Deputy De Rossa will move his amendment afterwards.

: I thank Deputy De Rossa for his co-operation. I am glad to be able to accept on behalf of the Government the motion moved by Deputy Niall Andrews. I am very glad of the opportunity which the tabling of this motion provides for the Dáil to discuss the plight of Central America. The overall situation there is characterised by poverty, injustice, violence and arbitrary death. Such conditions are always intolerable. They are even more so where the victims are denied any possibility of effective redress through the operation of a normal democratic political process with its accompanying juridical framework guaranteeing human rights and respect for life and property. It is the absence of democracy and apparently of any means of effective political redress which accounts largely for the violence which has plagued Central America. We in this House do not believe that power grows out of the barrel of a gun: but from the rule of law rather than from the rule of force and from the ability of men and women to work together to translate values into facts. This is a concern which we share with other countries which uphold and defend democratic values. In Central America too often those who rule have tried to maintain themselves in arbitrary power through the use of the gun. Too often those who suffer injustice have felt impelled to resort to violence against such arbitrary and oppressive rule. The cycle appears to be almost never ending. Yet clearly this is a situation which cannot be allowed to continue. Peace must be restored to Central America and the people there must be allowed to solve their own problems peacefully in their own way, without outside interference.

Even though geograpically Central America is distant from this country, this does not mean that we can be indifferent to its fate. We all have a role to play encouraging a dialogue both between and within the countries of Central America which will serve as the basis for the establishment of a permanent peace in the area. This debate offers the Dáil an immediate opportunity of voicing its support for efforts to bring about such a dialogue and for stating our hope that conflict in Central America and the suffering of the people there can soon be brought to an end.

It is in this context that I feel we should all welcome the recent initiative taken by the Contadora group of countries, Colombia, Mexico, Panama and Venezuela, to bring the five countries of Central America together around the negotiating table in the search for peace. So far the response to the Contadora initiative has been good. On 20 April the Foreign Ministers of the five Central American Republics met in Panama with their counterparts from the Contadora group to hold an initial round of discussions. Some indication of the importance of this gathering can be gained from the fact that this is the first time that the Foreign Ministers of the Central American countries have met since the Sandinista forces came to power in Nicaragua in 1979. It would, perhaps, be too much to expect that these initial talks would lead to the immediate solution of all the complex problems of Central America. What is most important, however, is that a new dialogue has begun and we must all hope that from these initial contacts will emerge the basis for a lasting peace in the area.

The encouragement of such a dialogue leading to a negotiated peaceful political solution to the problems of Central America is, of course, a central element of the policy of successive Irish Governments and of Members of all parties in the House. Essentially the Government's policy in relation to Central America has three main objectives:

1. The furtherance of respect for human rights.

2. The promotion of essential social and economic reforms.

3. Support for the creation of the necessary political and diplomatic basis for a peaceful settlement to conflict and tensions in the area.

The first of these concerns is familiar to Deputies and is, I feel sure, a matter of general agreement. All the evidence points to a consistent violation of human rights on a massive scale in a number of Central American countries. The catalogue is a depressing one. The virtual collapse of the judicial process, illegal detentions, torture, disappearances, assassinations and a generalised lack of respect for human life have all been documented and detailed by the United Nations and other bodies concerned with human rights. So great is the scale and so deep-seated the roots of the tragic situation in Central America that it is hard to see any effective remedy in the short term. Nonetheless, successive Irish Governments have sought to bring pressure on those responsible for human rights violations through focussing attention upon abuses in such fora as the United Nations. Ireland's record in this sphere is, I believe, an honourable one. We were one of the first countries to raise the issue of human rights violations in EI Salvador at the United Nations when we spoke on this matter in the Economic and Social Council of the UN in May 1980. Since then Ireland has co-sponsored a General Assembly resolution on the situation in El Salvador, in December 1981. We have also co-sponsored a similar resolution on Guatemala in December 1982.

Resolutions of the General Assembly represent only one aspect of United Nations activity in the field of human rights. The UN Commission on Human Rights also plays a very important role in investigating in detail the human rights records of individual countries and in assessing the extent to which countries have been implementing the relevant General Assembly resolutions. Given the importance of the commission, I am glad to be able to inform Deputies that in January of this year Ireland began a three-year term as a member of the commission. Through our membership of the commission we are, therefore, closely and directly involved in monitoring the human rights position in Central America.

In this connection the Irish delegation in Geneva has been dealing with the report prepared by the Special Representative on EI Salvador of the UN Commission on Human Rights, which was published on 20 January 1983. This depressing document concluded that "serious massive and persistent violations of human rights" continued in EI Salvador during 1982. One of the most disturbing aspects of this situation is the involvement of the state apparatus in these violations. Civilian deaths caused by the security forces and by para-military death squads in 1982 numbered between 5,000 and 6,000 according to figures supplied by the Archbishop Romero Christian Legal Aid Service of the Archdiocese of San Salvador and the official Human Rights Commission of EI Salvador itself. And even these figures, huge in themselves, actually represent a decrease on previous years.

The poignancy of the tragedy in EI Salvador was brought home very directly to us in Ireland recently by the murder of Ms. Marianella Garcia, former President of the El Salvador Human Rights Commission. Ms. Garcia had visited Ireland on several occasions and, indeed, had met with many Members of the Oireachtas. In the statement I issued on 16 March last I expressed my profound concern at the news of her murder and paid tribute to her devotion to alleviating the suffering of the people of EI Salvador. The disturbing and conflicting reports of the circumstances surrounding her death led to many demands for an urgent investigation into the matter so that those responsible could be brought to justice.

Unfortunately, given the circumstances in El Salvador, we can only remain sceptical about the outcome of such investigations. The failure of the security forces and the judicial system to apprehend and punish those responsible for human rights abuses has been a persistent feature of Salvadoran life during recent years. Even in cases involving considerable publicity and international pressure, such as the murder of foreign nationals, little progress has been made in apprehending and punishing those responsible.

In fairness it should be acknowledged that the Report of Special Representative of the UN Commission on Human Rights did point out that there existed among the higher levels of government in EI Salvador a desire to improve the situation concerning human rights. It is to be hoped, therefore, that the government and the judicial authorities there will adopt all legal measures necessary to prevent and to speedily punish violations of human rights and that they will institute an effective control over all the members and units of the armed forces and security forces. Ireland has urged that this should be done in our statement to the UN Commission on Human Rights on 2 March this year. Furthermore, we also voted for the resolution condemning human rights violations in EI Salvador which was passed by the Commission.

EI Salvador is not the only country in the region where systematic and serious violations of human rights are occurring. Many of the features which have been observed in EI Salvador are also present in Guatemala. Thus, for example, the United States State Department, in their report for 1981 dealing with human rights' practices in Guatemala, tell us that:

While the number of killings which appeared to be politically motivated ranged from 70 to 100 each month in 1980, the estimate for 1981 was 250 to 300 per month. Most of these victims were non-combatants. Kidnappings in 1981 ranged from 25-30 per month. There has been no evidence of arrests or prosecutions for any of these assassinations or kidnappings.

The accession of General Rios Montt to power in March 1982 gave rise to some fleeting hopes of an improvement, and for a time there was a belief that in the urban areas at least, the activities of the death squads had declined. However, during 1982, it had become apparent that any possible improvement in the cities had been more than offset by the repression which was taking place in the countryside. There, the Guatemalan army have sought to suppress the opposition guerilla groups, and to deprive them of the support of the local Indian population. The civilian death toll in the countryside has been variously estimated, from 2,600, to 8,000.

It was as a result of reports of killings such as I have referred to above that Ireland together with Austria, Canada and Sweden became a co-sponsor of a resolution on the Human Rights situation in Guatemala at the last General Assembly of the UN. In that resolution the General Assembly expressed its deep concern at the serious violations of human rights and particularly mentioned the `widespread repression, killing and massive displacement of rural and indigenous populations'. Since then, disquiet has also been aroused by the decision of the Guatemalan authorities to execute a number of political prisoners. Despite appeals from the Pope and from many other countries for clemency, the Guatemalan government carried out these executions on the eve of the Papal visit.

One of the results of the conflicts in both Guatemala and EI Salvador has been the displacement of population on a massive scale. In EI Salvador it has been estimated that about 230,000 persons out of a population of about 4.5 million have left the country due to the violence there. Moreover, 300,000 are estimated to be living as refugees in other parts of El Salvador, having fled from their original homes. In Guatemala, the activities of the Guatemalan army have led to the virtual depopulation of many areas of the western highlands. Estimates of the number of people displaced range as high as 500,000. Against this background I would appeal to the Guatemalan Government to allow international humanitarian organisations to bring assistance to those displaced. A large number of refugees have also crossed the border into Mexico, where international organisations are having great difficulty in supplying them with food and other essential supplies. We must support these organisations to ensure that help is brought to those who need it.

We have sought to provide humanitarian assistance within the context of the limited resources we have available. The Government have made several grants from their Disaster Relief Fund to various international and non-governmental organisations who are providing relief services in these countries. In 1979, £15,000 was allocated to Nicaragua. In 1981, the Government allocated £100,000 for the relief of distress in El Salvador. Last year, £15,000 was allocated for assistance to refugees in various Central American countries. These amounts are not large in relation to the size of the overall problems but they do indicate the Government's commitment to contribute to their solution. This year, the Government propose to continue to provide assistance to these countries through the Disaster Relief Fund and details of this will be announced in due course.

I referred earlier to the problem of how effective action can be taken to improve respect for human rights in Central America. Clearly, it is important not to relax our efforts to focus international attention on the issues and to maintain constant pressure on the Governments directly concerned. We must continue to publicise any lack of respect for human rights in the various countries of the region. In this regard, resolutions of the General Assembly of the UN and of the United Nations Commission on Human Rights, as well as the reports of the Commission, will perform a vital role.

But, any attempt to alleviate the suffering of the inhabitants of Central America and to foster greater respect for human rights there, if it is to have lasting success, must also seek to tackle the fundamental problems which generate the instability, unrest and violence in the area. Those familiar with the history of the region recognise that the present conflict has deep political, social and economic roots, which can be traced back well beyond the turmoil of the last three years.

The basic problem in Central America is the failure of political and economic structures to react adequately to the needs of the population and to institute essential reforms. The recent sharp deterioration in the regional economy has only heightened existing inequalities and tensions and made reform more urgent. The rapid growth of the urban population has not been accompanied by any significant changes in the distribution of wealth or in the allocation of resources. Equally, in the countryside the concentration of land ownership in the hands of a small elite effectively reduces the mass of the people to the level of landless labourers. Thus in Guatemala, for example, it has been estimated that at one end of the scale an elite 2 per cent of the population enjoys 25 per cent of the national income while at the lower end 50 per cent of the population — nearly all Indian peasants — receives only 10-15 per cent. Such gross disparities and the inability to effect peaceful changes in the situation through democratic institutions have a direct bearing upon the strength and success of guerilla movements.

In the face of such injustice one can only conclude that the violence and conflict in the region derive largely from inequalities of wealth and income and reflect the widespread desire of the people for greater social and economic justice. It is essential, therefore, if any real progress is to be made in ending violence and instability, that problems of social and economic justice should be tackled and solved. The countries of Central America are poor. Consequently to bring about successful reform they will require economic assistance from outside.

The United States and Europe, both of which are concerned about developments in the area, are obvious sources from which such economic assistance can be forthcoming. Both can play a significant role in providing the vital funds which will enable reform programmes to be launched. Already in March 1981 the United States set up the Caribbean Basin Initiative which can provide a major stimulus to development. At the same time, the ten member States of the Community have been anxious to increase the aid given by the Community to help Central American countries overcome their social and economic difficulties. The European Council, in its meetings in March and June 1982, decided in principle that such aid should be increased. As a result of this decision, in November 1982 the Community agreed to make available 30 million units of account, some £25 million, for helping countries in the region which have suitable programmes of agricultural reform.

Effective action to remove deep-seated social and economic inequities must be linked to political reforms and to the creation of representative political structures which enjoy the support and reflect the wishes of the people. Although, in this regard, there have been some signs of progress in recent years, major difficulties remain. In EI Salvador, the direct rule of the military has been ended and some initial steps taken towards the creation of a democratic political system and the introduction of land reform. Elections for a Constituent Assembly were held there in March 1982. However, although a significant proportion of the population took part, the elections can hardly be said to have offered the people of EI Salvador a genuine choice since the left-wing parties did not participate. Presidential elections have been fixed for December 1983 but if the circumstances of last year's elections to the Constituent Assembly are not to be repeated, however, changes will be necessary so as to facilitate the participation of the left, including the parties which make up the Popular Revolutionary Front.

Meaningful elections can only take place in conditions of peace. It is to this end, therefore, that I would urge that negotiations should be held between the representatives of both sides engaged in the conflict in El Salvador. Such negotiations would aim at achieving a peaceful political solution to the conflict in that country and make way for the holding of genuinely free elections in which all political parties could participate.

The overthrow of the Somoza regime and the victory of the Sandinista movement in Nicaragua in 1979 marks, perhaps, the most significant political event in that country's history. Once in power, the Sandinista movement promised that free elections would be held and that Nicaragua would be a pluralist society. Events in and around Nicaragua have since led to the declaration of a state of emergency there with adverse effects on political freedoms such as the imposition of censorship.

: They had censorship under Somoza since 1979.

: Elections are not now to take place until 1985. We hope that the process which has begun under the auspices of the Contadora group will quickly lead to the establishment of peace in Central America and that the Nicaraguan authorities will restore full political freedoms to the people of that country and hold early general elections. The people of Nicaragua, who have suffered so much under tyranny, deserve no less. Certainly, they would not wish to substitute a new dictatorship for the one they had overthrown.

: There is no intention of it.

: Similarly in Guatemala it is essential, if any political progress is to be made, and if necessary social and economic reforms are to be introduced, that early and free general elections should be held. It is the Irish Government's hope for Central America, and I am sure that this hope is shared by all members of the Dáil, that stable representative governments can emerge in the region which will be responsive to the needs, and respectful of the rights, of their people.

The final element in any attempt to bring peace and stability to Central America lies in the creation of an appropriate diplomatic forum in which the countries of the region can meet and discuss their problems.

There have been numerous peace initiatives in the past which have sought to promote a dialogue and negotiation as a way of alleviating tensions. Unfortunately, none of these proved acceptable to all the countries of Central America. That is why the latest initiative of the Contadora group, to which I have referred earlier, represents a significant development. It is the first initiative that has succeeded in bringing the five Central American countries together to one negotiating table.

The Contadora initiative is also important in that it provides an opportunity for the creation of a framework within which each individual country as well as overall regional problems can be tackled. Already, before the latest Contadora initiative had got off the ground, Nicaragua and Costa Rica had made successful bilateral contacts aimed at easing their border problems. It is now to be hoped that as a result of the meeting in Panama on 20 April a similar bilateral process between Nicaragua and Honduras will be established. We must hope too that the Contadora initiative may also facilitate contact between the warring parties in EI Salvador and bring a speedy end to the conflict in that country.

The initiative of the Contadora countries seeks to achieve a lasting peace in Central America based on the principles of self-determination and the right of each country in the region to determine its own destiny free from outside interference. These are principles to which we in Dáil Éireann would all wish to affirm our support. We would also welcome the proposal of the Contadora group that a first step on the way towards establishing such peace is through the suspension of arms shipments to the area and the withdrawal of outside military advisers.

: Hear, hear.

: In sum, therefore, we hope that a process has begun in Central America aimed at achieving a peaceful negotiated solution to the problems and conflicts in that region. This debate gives Dáil Éireann an opportunity to make clear its principled support for that process, and for the Government's continuing efforts to improve human rights in Central America. The struggle of the people of Central America is in large part a struggle for peace, democracy, human rights and economic and social justice. In this struggle they have the sympathy and full support of the Irish people.

: I move amendment No. 1:

To delete sub-paragraphs 5 and 6 and substitute the following:

"Calls on all States to abstain from intervening and to suspend all supplies of arms and military support to the Governments of EI Salvador and Guatemala.

Urges the Irish Government to play an energetic role at the UN to ease the threat of outside intervention and destabilisation of Nicaragua."

This amendment seeks to restore the original motion which was on the Order Paper up to yesterday. I put my name to the original motion in the belief that it had all-party support. Subsequently I was asked if I would allow two subparagraphs, 5 and 6, to be changed. I did not agree to subparagraph 5 being changed but did agree to a minor change to subparagraph 6. When the motion was printed today I found that both subparagraphs had been changed. I did not agree to this. Consequently I put down an amendment in order to restore the original motion to the Order Paper.

: On a point of order, in discussion with Deputy De Rossa this morning I presented him with a motion. A minor change was made to that. The Deputy was not available at the time but I spoke to his leader, Deputy Mac Giolla, who agreed to the amendment. If there is any misunderstanding, I apologise. In view of the seriousness of the motion I appeal to the Deputy to go along with the all-party motion which has been put down.

: I did not agree to the change in subparagraph 5 nor was it agreed to by Deputy Mac Giolla. The Government of the United States are presently engaged in a systematic destabilisation campaign against the Nicaraguan State. Since coming to office the Reagan administration have developed a policy of hostility to the emergence of an independent government in Central America and have placed the turmoil in Central America within the framework of an east-west conflict and confrontation. The US purports to present as the basis of its interference and intervention in the affairs of a fellow member of the United Nations unfounded allegations of Nicaraguan military support for El Salvadorean guerrillas, and portrays Nicaragua's defence forces as a military threat to other Central American nations. It would appear, on the basis of the case being made by various American spokespeople, that the objective of the American Government is to overthrow the Sandinista Government in Nicaragua.

It must be made clear that the Nicaraguan Government or people have never made any territorial claims on neighbouring countries. Neither is it trying to destabilise their governments or export its revolution. The Nicaraguan revolution in 1979 deposed a dictator who had been imposed on the people for almost 50 years. Today's unrest in Central America is not caused by Nicaragua but by the same social, economic and political injustices which sparked the revolution in the first place. I intend to deal with the charges which the American Government made against the Sandinistas and to show the manner in which intervention from outside is attempting to destabilise the situation in Nicaragua. Currently, there are numerous groups of 50 to 100 armed counter revolutionary groups operating in the north-west of Nicaragua. Their big hope, which has been stifled for the moment, was to pull off a major invasion. It has failed so far because of lack of local support and, in fact, met with very stiff opposition. One Sandinistan commander has been quoted as saying "What have Somoza exguardsmen, who tortured the people for years, to offer the poor peasants of Nicaragua?"

The great danger now is that, as the counter-revolutionary activities have failed, an attempt will be made to force the Nicaraguan Government into a direct confrontation with the Honduran army. There have been consistent reports in the past two months of Honduran army attacks on Nicaraguan border posts, instigated, it would appear, to draw Nicaragua into direct confrontation. It would also seem that this is due mainly to pressure by the American Government. US military assistance to Honduras has increased dramatically since the overthrow of the Somoza regime in Nicaragua. In 1980 it was $3 million, in 1981 it was $5.5 million, in 1982 it was $10.6 million and in 1983 it has risen to $15.3 million. That is in addition to a further $21 million to modernise Honduran airports. The air of tension created by the US campaign against Nicaragua, along with their large and exaggerated joint military manoeuvres in the area over the past two years, has greatly increased the worry of invasion. The need for the US to negotiate directly with Nicaragua and for the Irish Government to sponsor peace moves by the UN in Central America is, therefore, extremely urgent.

I will give a few examples to emphasise the degree to which the United States are involved in the destabilising of the Nicaraguan situation. On 23 February 1982 Mr. Patrick Leahy, a US Congressman and a member of the Intelligence Committee in Washington, said that President Reagan's administration were carrying out clandestine operations in Nicaragua to overthrow the government. The Nicaraguan Government, since coming to power, have succeeded in many achievements. It can be plainly seen that their attempts to satisfy the basic needs of the people are being frustrated by the need to divert large resources to the defence of the people and the country.

In the last two years of the Somoza regime there was a 32 per cent negative growth in the gross domestic product. Illiteracy was 60 per cent. The literacy campaign of the Sandinista Government in Nicaragua has been a fundamental part of their campaign to rebuild the country. In 1981 spending on education more than doubled that spent by the Somoza regime and it is now being spent on the ordinary people of the country. Local committees have been mobilised in a thorough campaign of health education. Schemes of vaccination against malaria and a programme of educating people in relation to nutrition and to reduce the high infant mortality rate have also been instigated.

Under the Somoza regime in 1978 and 1979 inflation was 84 per cent. In 1981 that was reduced to 30 per cent. Under the Somoza regime in 1979, 40 per cent were unemployed. Under the Sandinista regime in 1981 this had been reduced to 16 per cent. Clearly, the government in Nicaragua are making very great strides, despite the efforts to overthrow them.

There are constant charges by the USA that the Sandinista Government are Communist controlled and that they are undemocratic and so on. Public property and co-operatives contribute less than 40 per cent of the gross domestic product while the private sector in Nicaragua contribute 60 per cent. The private sector control 80 per cent of agricultural production and 75 per cent of industrial production is also in their hands. Clearly, that cannot be considered to be a state in the hands of a Communist government.

It is also claimed that the country is under the domination of Soviet or other socialist countries. Only 5 per cent of economic activity is with the socialist countries whereas 60 per cent is with the USA.

A further charge made by the USA is that the Sandinista Government are running guns to the guerillas in El Salvador. The US have repeatedly claimed this, despite the fact that they have failed to produce any evidence to support their claim and that the Nicaraguan Government have denied it. When asked on different occasions for proof of this charge, they failed to produce it, despite the fact that the US Government have sophisticated monitoring equipment in the area and an AWAC plane for monitoring the movement of vehicles and so on.

The main point I wish to make is that there is a very strong American campaign against the Nicaraguan Government which is being carried on at a high level. I detected some of this coming through in the Minister's response to the debate when he implied that the Nicaraguan Government were not doing all in their power to serve the needs of the people. One of the most serious charges made by the USA against the Sandinista Government was that of persecution against the Miskito Indians. This charge has continually been made by the US representative at the United Nations, Jean Kirkpatrick, and also by Alexander Haig. They continue to repeat this charge despite the fact that it has been denied by independent sources such as Pax Christi and by Patricia Hynes of the Mary Knoll Lay Missionaries in Managua, Nicaragua. On 1 March 1983 Jean Kirkpatrick said, before the Foreign Relations Committee in Washington, that the assault on thousands of Miskito Indians in Nicaragua by the Sandinista Government was more massive than any other human rights violation of which she was aware in Central America today. That is an extraordinary statement, given that it has been denied by independent sources and having regard to the number of assassinations in El Salvador, which is directly supported by the United States. Alexander Haig also attempted to prove this by presenting photographs at a press conference on 28 February 1981. He states that they show a massacre of Miskito Indians carried out by Sandinista forces in Nicaragua. However, a couple of days later the State Department of the USA admitted that the photographs were taken in 1979 and correspond to the Somoza period. Clearly the propaganda which the US is promoting is false and in many cases direct lies.

They also make a charge that the Sandinista Government are involved in religious persecution. One such story which has been promoted claims that Bishop Schaefer from the Atlantic coast of Nicaragua has been under house arrest. This was reported in the international press. However, the bishop himself spoke out clearly against that report, stating that he had never been arrested. Again, this report came through an independent source, the Mary Knoll Sisters in Managua.

A further quotation in relation to the charge of religious persecution is from the Bishop of Matagalpa, Monsignor Santi, who said in his homily on the day of his consecration, "Anyone who says there is no religious freedom in this country is a liar". That is from a bishop in Nicaragua itself. Clearly there is comparison between what the American Government are supporting in El Salvador and their attempts to destabilise the situation in Nicaragua.

The Opposition to the Nicaraguan Government is made up mainly of exguardsmen, the Guardia Nationalia, and also of dissident elements who have failed in an attempted military overthrow of the Sandinista Government. A Mr. Enders, who I understand is Assistant Secretary of State on Central American affairs, has said that the counter-revolution is being led by apolitical leaders. One of the people whom he claims to be apolitical is Edgar Chamorrow who is involved in the counter-revolutionary group called the FDN and also with a person called Vareli who is the ex-military attaché in Washington under General Somoza. Clearly the Government are using disaffected elements who have fled from Nicaragua and who were involved with the Somoza regime to try to overthrow the Nicaraguan Government.

The extraordinary thing about this is that the US representatives attempted to justify their activities. Jean Kirkpatrick who is the US representative at the UN has said that the US has not only a moral right but a duty to support the destabilisation of Nicaragua. As a result of that statement the Senate Foreign Relations Committee are to investigate violations of US law and the breaking of the principles of the agreements of the Organisation of American States.

I have dealt in some detail with the situation in Nicaragua because it is important to emphasise that a very strong American propaganda war is going on at present in order to justify American activities in the area. It is clear that they see the success of the government in El Salvador as hinging on their own success in destabilishing Nicaragua.

I will deal with the situation in El Salvador fairly briefly because it has already been covered by the previous two speakers, but it must be said that the El Salvadorean Government is one of the most repressive regimes anywhere in the world. Hundreds of thousands of people have died in the last few years murdered by Government forces and right-wing murder groups. Anyone who saw the television coverage of the funeral of the murdered Archbishop Romero or heard the graphic reports from Ann Daly describing the events will never forget how hundreds of people were viciously murdered on that occasion. Despite the appalling record in El Salvador and the continuing outrages there, the US Government continue to support this dreadful administration. Therefore the Irish Government must take a principled stand. While the Minister has outlined very laudable aims in relation to human rights, social and economic reform and the peaceful settlement of conflicts in the Central American area, the Government here must be more specific and must take their stand with the progressive forces in the Central American region. They must add their voice to those of other Governments in the Latin American region, in Mexico, Venezuela, Colombia and Panama, who have condemned all types of foreign intervention, direct or indirect, in Central America. They must also call for an end to the US provocative acts against Nicaragua arising from Honduran territory. Also a very effective step by the Irish Government would be to withdraw their invitation to President Reagan to visit this country until he ceases to give military and political backing to the oppressive regimes in Central America whether in Guatemala, Honduras or El Salvador, and ends his policy of attempting to destabilise Nicaragua. Furthermore, in relation to El Salvador the Irish Government must accord recognition to the FMLN and the FDR as the representative political force in El Salvador if realistic negotiations are to take place prior to elections in that area.

Debate adjourned.
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