asked the Minister for Education the pupil-teacher ratio in respect of primary, secondary and vocational schools in (a) 1973 and (b) 1983.
Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Pupil-Teacher Ratio.
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The estimated pupil-teacher ratios calculated on the basis of the total number of pupils and the total number of teachers in the case of the three categories of schools in question in 1972/73 and 1982/83 were as follows:
|
1972/73 |
1982/83 |
|
|
National Schools |
32.2 |
27.3 |
|
Secondary Schools |
18.8 |
17.1 |
|
Vocational Schools |
14.7 |
14.7 |
In the case of vocational schools the ratio is based on the number of whole-time equivalent teachers.
Would the Minister agree that the pupil-teacher ratio in our schools is regarded as the worst in the EEC while there are, at the same time, approximately 600 primary teachers out of work? Does the Minister realise that, even to bring us into line with the position obtaining in Northern Ireland, we would need an extra 4,000 new teachers? Does the Minister intend to reduce the pupil-teacher ratio in phases by increasing the number of teachers?
I am aware of the fact the Deputy points out. Perhaps it is necessary to remind the House that most other countries in the EEC achieved a lower pupil-teacher ratio because of a dramatically falling birth rate, without having to employ extra teachers which is different from the situation in Ireland; in other words, to improve the pupil-teacher ratio in this country it is necessary to greatly increase the number of teachers as opposed to what happened in other EEC countries. As is stated in the Programme for Action at several points, the Government are committed to reducing the pupil-teacher ratio as soon as financial circumstances permit.
Like family planning.
On a point of information may I ask the Minister if she is now taking Questions Nos. 7 and 9 together?
No. 7 only.
Does the Minister consider that the increase in the pupil-teacher ratio has led to a decrease in the number and choice of subjects that can be taken up, particularly in second level schools? Furthermore, does she consider that this is in direct conflict with her stated policy of allowing greater flexibility and choice of subjects particularly to girls at senior level?
I should like to answer that but it is a totally different question. It does not have anything to do with the question tabled.
Rather it does not suit the Minister at present.