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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 1 May 1985

Vol. 357 No. 11

Adjournment Debate. - Cork City Crime.

I wish to thank the Chair for allowing me the opportunity of raising on the Adjournment the frightening growth of violent crime on the streets of Cork in recent weeks. I am sorry that it has been necessary to do this. I am also sorry that a phenomenon that has appeared to be growing on the streets of our capital city for some time seems to be spreading to the provinces. In the previous debate I spoke on the need for regional development but in this instance I do not want to see regional development taking place.

The growth of crime in Cork city and its surroundings in recent weeks is causing grave concern to people in the area. The alarming growth in the number of incidents coupled with the viciousness of the crimes, is terrifying people. I fear that, if it is not dealt with urgently, loss of life or lives can be foreseen as well as continued harassment from these criminals.

No doubt the House will be aware that in the past weekend a colleague's car was taken when he was at the Opera House at Cork on Sunday night where an over-sixties talent competition was being held. The car of Deputy Lyons was taken and it was driven to another car park. Members of the public alerted the Garda, showing the good Cork spirit that still exists. Deputy Lyons' car was taken to another car park and at one stage it was driven in the wrong direction in a one-way street, causing material damage to other vehicles. There is also the dreadful thought of what could have happened if people had been on that street at that time. It is a tribute to the Garda, that before Deputy Lyons even knew his car had been stolen when the show at the Opera House was over, the Garda recovered it. In that connection they deserve to be complimented.

A frightening aspect is that on Friday night a garda was physically injured when one of these thugs reversed a car over him. That garda now has to use crutches. Gardaí and civilians have been injured in these incidents. The Minister has an obligation to ensure that there is an adequate number of gardaí in Cork, the removal of restrictions on patrol duties and that there are no curbs on overtime that would deter the pursuit of criminals.

I know there are difficulties with regard to the bail problem and I sympathise with the Minister. However, the problem must be overcome. It is extremely urgent that it be overcome if we are to see the ordinary people of our city and county, our region, generally get the type of protection to which they are entitled. The rapid growth of crime in recent weeks is in stark contrast to the statements of the Taoiseach and the Minister for Justice that crime was on the decrease. In the area of justice, this Government are as much out of touch as they are in any other area under their control at present. All facilities appear to be available to Garda policing our unnatural Border at enormous cost to the taxpayer. I believe that the citizens of Cork are entitled to the very same protection and facilities.

The relationship between the Garda and the people of Cork has been excellent since the inception of the force — I should make that clear — at all levels they have become involved in the sporting, cultural and community life of the region. The kind of community spirit existing between them is positive and healthy and long may it continue.

Deputy Lyons could tell the House that some parcels from his car, obviously lost in the streets, were returned to him since the incident on Sunday night, which commends the civic spirit displayed by so many good Cork people. The Garda are entitled to be properly equipped, to be given every facility for their protection, helping them to protect the citizens as well. Urgent action is needed and one must ask the Minister to take immediate steps to curb this growth. I repeat that many people are absolutely frightened. On a rare occasion one may have seen a car careering along a one way street in the wrong direction, a genuine mistake on the part of its driver. That in itself is frightening, but, when that act is done deliberately, how much more frightening, lethal and dangerous can it be for innocent, law-abiding citizens not in any way involved.

The recent opening of a prison on Spike Island, while welcomed, caused considerable concern to many in the region. The Minister may wonder why it caused concern. It caused concern because the facilities of television and central heating received much publicity, though perhaps they were needed. Certainly it constitutes a big change from the facilities available to our naval forces during their years of long service on the island. That is why it was of some concern. Loyal people that they are, one will hear no complaints from those forces. I sympathise with them in that it would appear that the facilities extended to them over a long number of years were not good enough for the people who replace them there.

I appeal to the Minister, the Minister for Justice of the day; it is his responsibility and I want him to stamp out the violent crime and thuggery taking place in Cork city at present. If it is happening, the early closure of Garda stations must be discontinued. If there are curbs on overtime they must be lifted. Every opportunity must be given to the Garda to pursue these criminals, bring them to justice, making our streets what they always were, easy-going, happy streets in our southern capital.

Limerick East): The first of May is an auspicious occasion also. Various migratory birds have returned to the country and it is nice to see Deputy Gene Fitzgerald back from Europe this evening raising the concerns of his constituency.

That is very flippant.

Give over the bunkum. The Minister should get on with the job and stop all the trash. He should give the Garda the deal they want.

(Limerick East): I am sorry to hear that Deputy Lyons lost his car the other night. Part of the argument has been made by Deputy Gene Fitzgerald that he was able to get it back within a very short period of time. Deputy Gene Fitzgerald also referred to another incident in Cork, that of a garda being injured on Friday night last. He did not mention to the House that the perpetrator of that crime not alone was arrested by the Garda but was convicted and is now serving a jail sentence.

He was out on bail.

He was out on bail on Friday night.

(Limerick East): No, he is serving a jail sentence.

He was out on bail on Friday night.

(Limerick East): Of course he was out on bail, everybody is entitled to bail — the courts do that; I do not — but he is in jail now.

Let the Minister be honest.

Please, would Deputies allow the Minister to reply?

(Limerick East): I think Deputy Lyons's personal problem has interfered with his usual rationality in this House. He should allow me to continue and not scream at me.

Since the beginning of January 1984 26 extra gardaí have been allocated to Cork. The Cork Garda are very well equipped. As the Deputy quite well knows three new Garda stations have been constructed in Cork and I hope to open them shortly. As a matter of fact the situation in Cork is better than in most places in the country. There is always crime but, in the two examples which the Deputy gave here this evening, one car was recovered within, as he said, a very short period of time — on which the Garda are to be congratulated — and in the other instance the perpetrator is now behind bars and serving a prison sentence.

What about the taxi drivers?

(Limerick East)): Unauthorised car taking in the Cork area over the past few months has been reduced. I am sorry that there is still crime but I am afraid it is a fact of modern life that always we will have some level of crime in our cities, towns and country areas. For example, in Cork, crime in the first three months of this year was reduced by 3.6 per cent. There was a reduction last year as well. While any Deputy can come into this House and point to a dramatic incident which occurred in any city, town or county in any week the overall trend in Cork is very good. Cork is very well policed. I was delighted to hear Deputy Gene Fitzgerald compliment the Garda Síochána this evening.

Of course we cannot be complacent. Even though the Garda in Cork arrested and charged 40 people with the unauthorised taking of cars since 1 January last 20 of whom have been convicted already and are serving jail sentences, that allows no room for complacency. I hope the process can be speeded up so that anybody awaiting trial in Cork will be convicted as well.

Recently I announced that a special unit would be established to deal with the problem in the Dublin area. That has proved very effective over the past couple of months. I also said that the unit in Dublin would be issued with spiked chains to control the incidence of high speed joyriding and ramming of Garda cars. I can say now that if the Garda believe there is a need for this equipment in the Cork area they will be provided with it. I am not going to allow thugs or vandals to career through the streets of our capital city or any other of our cities. I am delighted that the Garda action in Cork has been so effective, so quick on the two incidents named by the Deputy here this evening. I hope they will continue to be quick and efficient, that people will be processed through the courts and put into prison if that is the wish of the courts.

Are they not all out on bail again?

(Limerick East): They are not all out on bail. The Deputy is talking nonsense. We are used to his talking nonsense and we would be surprised if he spoke in any other fashion; some of us would get a shock.

Another school master's teaching lesson.

(Limerick East): Six hundred and forty car thieves have been arrested and charged in Dublin. Two hundred and fifty of them are now in prison——

(Interruptions.)

(Limerick East): Over the next couple of weeks another 300 will be there.

I am glad Deputy Gene Fitzgerald welcomed the opening of Spike Island. I am sure he knows Cork Harbour very well. On a nice fine day it is very picturesque. It is nice to be on an island on a fine day, when the sea is calm, one can look back at Cobh looking like a postcard. On the day the press went down there it was very beautiful. But the previous week for three days in a row we could not get timber floorboards across to put floors into the billets across to the island because we could not get the boats out. That is the kind of place Spike Island can be in bad weather.

Did they get across the television sets?

(Limerick East): The Deputy talked about the navy and about central heating. There is no central heating on Spike Island. I am not going to allow 15 prisoners in a dormitory with an open fire. I am not going to stand over a situation in which they can pile mattresses and blankets on an open fire. I will not stand over a situation in which they can take a shovelful of hot coals putting it on top of a bed in the middle of the night. That is why I caused the open fires to be bricked up. If there is a need for a different form of heating next year I will put it in. But at present the fireplaces on Spike Island are bricked up and there is no form of heating there whatsoever.

What about the videos?

(Limerick East): We will talk about television. Even Hitler showed films to his prisoners in the prisoner of war camps. If Deputy Gene Fitzgerald wants me to run a concentration camp on Spike Island I want a commitment here that when he next returns from Europe in the autumn he will not have me up here complaining about concentration camp conditions on Spike Island.

The Dáil adjourned at 9 p.m. until 10.30 a.m., Thursday, 2 May 1985.

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