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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 27 Nov 1985

Vol. 362 No. 2

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Prisoners' Suicide.

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asked the Minister for Justice the number of prisoners who committed suicide in prisons or Garda stations during the past ten years; if he is taking any special measures to deal with the problem; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

(Limerick East): Prison records indicate that, up to last December, four offenders in prisons committed suicide. As regards the current year, the position is that in the absence of a formal finding by an inquest, it would not be appropriate for me to classify a death in a prison either as being or as not being suicide. Inquests have yet to be held in three cases.

Offenders whose behaviour suggests that they have psychiatric problems or that they might make an attempt at committing suicide are referred to consultant psychiatrists who visit regularly and, if the psychiatrist considers it necessary, they are transferred to the Central Mental Hospital, Dundrum, for the necessary treatment.

No matter what measures are taken it is not possible to completely prevent suicides occurring if the persons concerned are determined and are able to conceal their intentions from the supervising staff.

I am satisfied that, when one compares the very small number of suicides in our prisons over the past ten years with the throughput of over 30,000 prisoners in the same period, the precautions taken are generally satisfactory.

The total number of deaths in Garda custody over the past ten years was 25, details of which are set out in the following tabular statement which will be circulated with the Official Report. The total number of deaths is given because it is not clear from the coroners' verdicts how many cases involved suicide. The table includes details of the coroner's verdict in each case.

The Garda Code contains detailed instructions on the treatment and supervision of persons in Garda custody including their safety and well-being. While the instructions appear to be fully adequate, they are reviewed from time to time, and particularly if any untoward incident occurs, to see whether any improvements can be made.

Following is the statement:

Deaths in Garda Custody

Date

Place of Death

Cause of Death

15 April 1975

Bridewell Garda Station, DMA

Strangulation by ligature

10 September 1975

Thomastown Garda Station

Vagal inhibition by hanging by neck from cell window

25 January 1976

Ballina Garda Station

Alcoholic poisoning

1 April 1977

Dr. Steeven's Hospital, Dublin

Asphyxia due to inhalation of vomit

9 September 1977

St. Laurence's Hospital, Dublin (Richmond)

(a) Cerebral oedema

(b) Haemorrhage and laceration of the brain

(c) Head injury with fractured skull

4 March 1978

St. Laurence's Hospital, Dublin

Natural causes

19 July 1978

Cherry Orchard Hospital, Dublin

Meningitis due to peningococcus

4 August 1978

St. Finbarr's Hospital, Cork

Coma and cardiorespiratory failure due to anoxic brain damage possibly resulting from combination of drugs and alcohol

8 January 1979

Rathmines Garda Station, DMA

Overdose of barbiturates self-adminis tered

2 April 1979

Rathmines Garda Station, DMA

Respiratory depression caused by overdose of alcohol and barbiturates self administered

24 July 1979

Monaghan County Hospital

(a) Cerebral oedema

(b) Subdued haematoma

(c) Head injury with fractured skull

22 August 1979

Ballymun Garda Station, DMA

Cerebral anoxia due to suspension by the neck self enacted

19 September 1979

Ballybricken Garda Station, Co. Water- ford

Hanging

31 December 1979

Athlone Garda Station

Asphyxia due to inhalation of vomit

8 June 1980

Bridewell Garda Station, Cork

Asphyxia due to aspiration of regurgi- tated gastric contents of stomach aris ing from intoxication

22 April 1982

Shercock Garda Station, Co. Cavan

Inquest not yet held

27 May 1982

Ennis County Hospital

(a) Myocardial ischaemia

(b) Coronary atheroma

(c) Inhalation of gastric contents of stomach

31 May 1982

Bridewell Garda Station, Cork

Asphyxia due to construction of neck by ligature

31 July 1982

Mallow Garda Station, Co. Cork

Natural causes

9 November 1982

Greystones Garda Station, DMA

Asphyxia due to inhalation of stomach contents contributory factor alcohol intoxication

23 February 1983

Ballymun Garda Station, DMA

Shock due to burning and alcohol intoxication due to fire in cell

12 September 1983

Dundalk Garda Station

(a) Cerebral Anoxia

(b) Self-inflicted neck compression

(c) Suspension by a noose

4 November 1983

Harcourt Terrace Garda Station, DMA

Asphyxia due to suspension or hang ing in a cell

4 March 1984

Waterford Garda Station

Respiratory depression secondary to ethyl alcohol intoxication

8 September 1984

Navan Garda Station

Coronary

Is there a study of the figures available? Has a study been carried out of the deaths that have been declared as suicide or those which the authorities, whatever about the reports of coroners, suspect were suicide from the circumstances involved? Has there been any study to try to find common links between the cases involved and, if so, have such studies resulted in the altering of the methods of dealing with prisoners either in Garda custody or in our prisons?

(Limerick East): Up to the beginning of this year, there were four suicides in a ten-year period in the prisons. The number is too small to establish the kind of pattern that the Deputy seems to suggest. I am not aware of any studies that have been carried out to establish links on a causatory basis. As I said, regarding the question of deaths in Garda custody it is not clear whether or not deaths are suicide in certain cases and it is quite clear in other cases that there are natural causes. Again, I am not aware of any study that has been carried out.

I shall not delay the House much longer on this. While the official figures, which I accept, are given as four, the Minister would be aware that coroners are reluctant to return verdicts of suicide in very many cases. Would the Minister initiate some kind of study in relation to the deaths which have occurred in our prisons and in Garda custody, to establish what steps might be taken by way of altering regulations or providing methods of identifying persons who might be at risk?

(Limerick East): I shall consider the situation and the suggestion. There is a very low number of suicides in our prisons as compared with, for example, 151 in English and Welsh prisons and 26 in Scottish prisons in the same period, even allowing for the difference in population. The figures show that our record in this compares favourably. The figures for the countries I have mentioned do not include deaths classified as non-natural.

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