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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 6 Mar 1986

Vol. 364 No. 6

Ceisteanna — Questions. Oral Answers - CERT Organisation.

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asked the Minister for Labour if he will give details of the staff of CERT, their locations and grade, and all offices of the organisation in the country.

The current staff complement of CERT is 67 persons. I propose to circulate a tabular statement on the locations and grades of staff and CERT offices in the Official Report.

Following is the statement:

CERT: Staff by locations and grade, and list of offices.

1

Director — Dublin.

1

Assistant Director/Company Secretary — Dublin.

3

Heads of Division — Dublin.

5

Managers — Dublin.

22

Training Advisers — Dublin.

5

Training Advisers:

— Cork (2)

— Athlone

— Galway

— Waterford.

3

Assistant Training Advisers — Dublin.

4

Instructors — Dublin.

7

Senior Administrative Assistants — Dublin.

14

Administrative Assistants — Dublin.

2

Maintenance Porters — Dublin.

CERT offices are based in the following locations:—

1 Ailesbury Road,

6 Francis Street,

Dublin.

Galway.

19 Roebuck Road,

3 Westbourne,

Dublin.

Western Road, Cork.

99 O'Connell Street,

Seán Costello Street,

Limerick.

Irishtown, Athlone,

County Westmeath.

Castle Street,

1 St. Andrew's

Ballyshannon, County

Terrace, Newtown,

Donegal.

Waterford.

Temporary or contract staff are not included in above numbers.

Would the Minister agree, if one is talking about value for money, that CERT seem to stand out in an unbelievably good light, when compared with all of the other agencies in the manpower area? Has the Minister any comment to make on why that should be so? I do not have to quote the figures for the other organisations but there is a clear imbalance. I know that CERT are efficient but there must be a reason why the other agencies need so many personnel — the National Manpower Service, AnCO, the YEA, whose staff costs are so much greater than those of CERT when viewed in the light of the number of people they train or provide with jobs.

There are a number of explanations I would offer the Deputy. The first is the belief that small is beautiful which is clearly demonstrated in the management size of the operation. It is also probably the oldest of all of the manpower training agencies, certainly older than AnCO. They avail of much of the infrastructure provided by AnCO, particularly with regard to research, computerisation and so on so that some of their normal development costs are carried by AnCO. It is specific to a particular industry and has developed a degree of trust between the social partners, as represented on their council and the training agencies, including the Department of Education. I agree with the Deputy that they are a model of cooperation and enthusiasm which, in turn, has generated very good morale among their staff. Indeed, it is an example that all of the other training agencies could follow.

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