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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 7 Feb 1990

Vol. 395 No. 4

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Palestinians' Human Rights.

Proinsias De Rossa

Question:

5 Proinsias De Rossa asked the Minister for Foreign Affairs if his attention has been drawn to the recent Amnesty International report which found evidence of systematic violation of the human rights of Palestinians in the occupied territories by the Israeli security forces; to the fact that the use of force has often been excessive and indiscriminate; that unarmed Palestinian civilians are being shot dead almost daily by the Israeli security forces; if he has made any representations to the Israeli Government regarding these practices; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

The Government are deeply concerned at events in the Occupied Territories and, together with our partners in the Twelve, continue to monitor closely developments there.

I am aware of the report to which the Deputy has referred and, at Ireland's suggestion, the Twelve made a demarche on 14 January to Israel in which:

(i) We expressed our concern

—at the unjustified use of generalised violence against hundreds of people during authorised and peaceful demonstrations in Jerusalem on 29-30 December 1989; and

—that the current guidelines appear to permit use of firearms in situations that are not life threatening;

(ii) We appealed to Israel

—to allow peaceful demonstrations to proceed freely;

—to cease using excessive force to put down demonstrations and other manifestations of the uprising;

—to ensure that law-enforcement officials do not exceed their powers;

—to review urgently the guidelines on opening fire; and

—to implement Security Council Resolutions Nos. 605 (1987), 607 (1988), 608 (1988) and 636 (1989).

(iii) We emphasised

—the importance for Twelve relations with Israel of full respect of the human rights of the Palestinians of the Occupied Territories;

(iv) We reiterated

—that the provisions of the Geneva Conventions on the Protection of the Civilian Population in Time of War are applicable to the Occupied Territories.

(v) We recalled

—the need to open dialogue in order to reach a peace settlement which alone can ensure the rights and legitimate aspiration of each of the parties;

—that measures recently taken against leading Palestinians in the Occupied Territories are not conducive to the climate of confidence necessary for any negotiation.

At a joint meeting between members of the Israeli Knesset (parliament) and the European Parliament, I took the opportunity to re-emphasise these points, in particular the importance for the full spectrum of the Twelve's relations with Israel of all matters affecting the human rights of the Palestinians of the Occupied Territories.

Bilaterally, our Ambassador in Athens, who is accredited to Israel, in the course of an official visit there from 22 January to 1 February conveyed to the Israeli authorities Ireland's deep concern at the current position in the Occupied Territories.

I cannot overestimate the need to open dialogue in order to reach a peace settlement which alone can ensure the rights and legitimate aspirations of each of the parties. It is my firm conviction that the measures currently being applied by Israel in the Occupied Territories are not conducive to the climate of confidence necessary for any negotiation.

I thank the Minister for his detailed reply. It is very encouraging to see him taking a keen interest in the situation in Israel and the Occupied Territories. The Amnesty International report gave particular cause for alarm. Is the Minister aware that more than half the 540 people shot dead were under 18 years of age, 110 were under 16 years of age and that some children as young as three and four years were shot dead? As well as pursuing this matter through the European Community would the Minister undertake for Ireland to take up with the Israeli Ambassador in Britain, who has responsibility for relations with Ireland, these matters which arise from the Amnesty International report?

I am aware of the additional information which Deputy De Rossa has given. I am sure that, like me, all Members of this House are aware of this tragic situation. I will be in a position very shortly to personally convey, on a bilateral basis, the views of the Irish Government on this issue to the Deputy Foreign Minister of Israel whom I will meet in Dublin within a short period.

Sorry Deputy, the time for dealing with Priority Questions is fast running out.

May I ask a very brief Supplementary Question?

There are two remaining questions which the Chair is more anxious to dispose of.

I very rarely get the opportunity to ask Priority Questions——

There is an answer to that.

The Deputy will co-operate with me.

(Interruptions)

The Deputy has had a fair innings.

Fine Gael and Labour tried to deprive us——

Bilocation is not just——

Bilocation can be very useful indeed.

A brief question, Deputy.

On a point of order, Deputy De Rossa also has the opportunity of questioning me on these matters in the European Parliament.

I intend to do so.

He likes to use both avenues.

Would the Minister in the course of his meeting with the Israeli ambassador indicate strongly that the intransigence of the Israeli authorities is creating a situation where the more extreme elements on the Palestinian side are likely to come very much to the fore and that this will not be of help in achieving peace in the Middle East?

My planned meeting is with the Deputy Foreign Minister, not with the ambassador, but I take on board the comments made by Deputy De Rossa. I can say to him that I had the opportunity when part of the Community Troika before Christmas to convey those points and the points I mentioned in the course of my reply to Prime Minister Shamir who met the Troika in Paris on his way back to Israel following his meeting with President Bush.

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