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Tuesday, 9 Jul 1991

Vol. 410 No. 6

EC Summit: Statements.

I wish to report today on the outcome of the European Council in Luxembourg on 28-29 June and to outline the work taking place in the two Intergovernmental Conferences on Political Union and Economic and Monetary Union. The Conclusions of the European Council have been laid before the House in the usual way, and in order to facilitate Deputies for this debate, the draft Treaty of Union which has been drawn up by the Luxembourg Presidency on the basis of the work of the Conferences has also been laid before both Houses of the Oireachtas.

The principal issue scheduled for consideration at the European Council was the progress of the two Inter-governmental Conferences. However, in view of the developments in Yugoslavia Heads of Government agreed that the crisis there should be taken as the first item on the agenda. The Council quickly agreed to send to Yugoslavia the Foreign Ministers of the Troika and a representative of the Commission and to invoke the emergency mechanism of the Conference on Security and Co-operation in Europe.

It is symptomatic of the changed situation in Europe, and of the new responsibility of the Community arising from this, that all 35 participants of the CSCE consider that the Twelve initiative for resolution of the Yugoslav crisis should be the basis of a mission to that country on behalf of all CSCE participating states. Last week, the 35 welcomed the willingness of the Community to organise a mission to Yugoslavia to help stabilise a cease-fire and to monitor the return of armed forces to previous positions and the suspension of declarations of independence by Slovenia and Croatia for three months, so that an overall negotiated solution could be found. The Community is now fully engaged in carrying out this mandate, which is an earnest of the confidence reposed in the Twelve by all the parties in Yugoslavia and by the States of Europe, along with the United States and Canada.

Notwithstanding the crisis in Yugoslavia the European Council did keep to its scheduled business and great credit for this is due to the effective management of a difficult and complex agenda by the President, Prime Minister Santer and his Foreign Minister Poos. My general assessment of the Council is positive. While it was, as Prime Minister Santer has said, primarily a staging post on the way to the Maastricht Council in December it did enable the Heads of Government to take stock of the work of the IGCs and to identify the major issues requiring political impetus and guidelines. Moreover I believe that from Ireland's point of view our important interests in the IGCs and in other significant international negotiations, such as the GATT, were protected and enhanced. I shall deal with these questions in more detail later but at this stage I would like to point to the main results of the Council.

First, we agreed that the final decisions on Political Union and on Economic and Monetary Union will be taken by the Maastricht European Council. This is necessary if the timetable for ratification of the Union Treaty by the end of next year is to be kept.

Second, we identified a number of key areas in the Political Union Conference on which work will need to be intensified if there is to be agreement at Maastricht, and we issued guidelines for this work— in particular on a common foreign and security policy, the powers of the European Parliament social policy, economic and social cohesion, and on home affairs and judicial co-operation.

Third, the Council agreed that economic and social cohesion should be an integral part of the Union, embodied in the new Treaty. It asked the Commission to clarify the ideas outlined to the Council by President Delors for developing the Union's cohesion dimension. Cohesion is an essential part of the negotiations for Ireland and the Council's conclusions on this point represent substantial progress at this stage. In the discussions, I stressed our concerns in relation to the review of the CAP.

Fourth, the Council recognised that there are now broad areas of agreement on the basic components of Economic and Monetary Union, and agreed on the need to make satisfactory and lasting progress on economic and monetary convergance.

Fifth, in the area of drugs and organised crime, the Council agreed on the establishment of a European drugs monitoring centre and on a programme of work for the Maastricht Concil, including work on proposals put forward by Chancellor Kohl.

Sixth, we reviewed progress on the internal market, three-quarters of the measures have now been adopted. The Council identified several matters for priority attention during the coming six months, including important work on the free movement of persons.

Seventh, we reviewed the state of the Community's external relations, both bilaterally with its main partners, and in multilateral fora, including the GATT. Ireland successfully opposed a proposal to change the emphasis in the Community's approach and I can report that there has been no change in the Community's negotiating position on agriculture in the Uruguay Round.

Finally, we issued a number of declarations setting out the views of the Twelve on a range of current international issues, including the Middle East, Iraq, South Africa, human rights, humanitarian aid, and the non-proliferation of weapons. We also agreed that the Community should participate in international action to protect the Brazilian rain forest — an initiative which has resulted from the Declaration on the Environment adopted at the Dublin European Council in June of last year.

From what I have just said and from the text of the detailed conclusions the House will see that the Luxembourg Council dealt with many issues central to the development of the Community and its role in international life. Because of the significance of these for the Community and for Ireland I had a number of bilateral meetings with other Heads of Government before the Council — with Prime Minister Santer on 6 June, with President Mitterrand on 20 June, and with Prime Minister Major on 21 June. My meetings enabled me to obtain the views of these countries at first hand and to convey the Irish position on the major questions likely to arise.

The Conclusions of the European Council and the work of the Inter-governmental Conferences reflect the response of the Community to the great changes in European politics over the past two years and to the challenges thrown up by the profound transformation of the European scene. The old divided Europe which people had perhaps come to accept, in as much as it was familiar, is no more. No longer can we operate on the model of a continent divided down the centre, with two groups of countries in hostile alliances facing each other, and a number of others in a third group, not engaged in alliances but determined to minimise the chances of an ultimate confrontation which would threaten the future of all.

On the Eastern side of the former divide, the Warsaw Pact has ceased to exist as a military alliance, COMECON is no more, and we are the witnesses of the progressive transformation of states, once frozen in a totalitarian mould, into pluralistic and free democracies with market economies.

On the Western side, NATO is engaged in the formulation of profound changes in its approach, changes which start from the acknowledegment that security and stability do not lie solely in the military dimension and that the political content of the organisation should be enhanced. Significant decisions in regard to the military dimension too have recently been taken and announced.

At the same time, the first post-war conventional arms treaty to include both the US and the USSR, signed in Paris in November last, provides for a significant reduction in the numbers of tanks, artillery, armoured combat vehicles, aircraft and helicopters deployed in the European theatre, and opens up the prospect of significant reductions in troop numbers. Germany has agreed already to important reductions in the number of troops deployed on its newly united territory and, following agreement Soviet troops are being withdrawn from Hungary, Czechoslovakia and the former German Democratic Republic, as well as Poland. On the European continent confidence and security-building measures agreed in the CSCE can play an important role in security, reducing the emphasis on military means of ensuring security.

As for the European Community it is fair to say that it has emerged from the turmoil of the past two years with enhanced validity. It has become the pole of attraction for the newly liberated countries of Central and Eastern Europe. At the same time, it is the one indispensable reference point for any future overall European system. The culminating point in the changes affecting Europe over the past two years was the Charter of Paris for a New Europe, adopted by the Heads of State or Government of all CSCE participating states in November last. This announced the end of the era of confrontational division of Europe and proclaimed that henceforth relations between the participating states would be founded on respect and co-operation. It recognised the important role of the European Community in the political and economic development of Europe. In such a new Europe there is inevitably a sense of new possibilities, at once challenging and giving rise to hope. It challenges statesmen to come up with imaginative arrangements which will be adequate to the new situation and which will give the people of Europe as a whole confidence in their future.

The newly liberated countries of Central and Eastern Europe have renounced decisively a bankrupt system and an unequal alliance. It is clear that they look to Western Europe, and the European Community in particular, as the anchoring point for their security in the widest sense of this term. Accordingly, at present Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia are negotiating with the Community Association Agreements with a political content. These are seen as stages on the way to further development of their relations with the Community. Indeed it is clear that full membership of the Community is the strategic goal of all three. Other countries of Central and Eastern Europe are likely to follow along the same road, as they make further progress towards full democracy and a market economy.

On the other hand, the countries of EFTA are negotiating an agreement with the Community for the establishment of a European Economic Area. This raises complicated institutional and policy issues and raises the question in some of the EFTA countries, whether the solution is not to be found in application for membership of the Community pure and simple. Two EFTA countries — Austria and Sweden — have lodged applications for membership. In each case, it is notable that an important consideration has been that neutrality has a different specific weight in the new Europe that I have been describing. Clearly, it does not now seem to pose the same difficulties in the minds of some prospective members that it did only a very short time ago. We know that serious consideration is being given in other EFTA countries to the question of Community membership.

At a time when the geo-political map in our continent has changed fundamentally, and is still changing, the place of the Twelve in the new Europe is of decisive importance. This was recognised early by the Heads of State or Government of the Community. Responding to the proposal of Chancellor Kohl and President Mitterrand, they confirmed at their meeting of 28 April 1990 in Dublin their commitment to political union and began the process of examination of treaty changes with the aims of strengthening the democratic legitimacy of the union, enabling the Community and its institutions to act more efficiently and effectively, and assuring unity and cohesion in the Community's international action. This process complemented that already under way on Economic and Monetary Union.

Before taking up the individual issues under consideration in the Inter-governmental Conferences, I want to outline the overall approach that has guided the Government in the preparatory work and in the discussions within the Conferences.

First we have brought to the negotiations Ireland's full and wholehearted commitment to the European ideal of an ever close union amongst the peoples of Europe. It is sometimes overlooked that Ireland's commitment to European construction now extends back a full 30 years to when we first applied for membership in 1961. We accepted at that time, and again when we joined the Community more than ten years later, that the original Treaties were a stage in the process of European integration, and that we would be engaged with our partners in developing the Community and in seeking new ways to give expression to the European ideal. The two enlargements in the eighties, and the Single European Act were steps in that process. The negotiations now under way on Political Union and on Economic and Monetary Union will take us further on the road. But they will not complete the journey. There will be further goals to be achieved. The important thing is that we and our partners have come to a common understanding on the nature of the challenges facing Europe in the nineties. We have committed ourselves to working with our partners in finding solutions commensurate with the historic nature of the changes taking place in European life. I believe Ireland can take some pride in the way in which we participated in the debate on these issues and the Community's response to them during the Irish Presidency last year.

The second point I want to make is that the work of the Intergovernmental Conferences is a joint endeavour. It must reach an outcome which is acceptable to all and accommodates the interests of all on an equal basis. The great strength of the Community and the factor that more than any other has sustained it and enabled it to confront the challenges of international life has been its unity of purpose, of membership, and of organisation. All the member states share the same rights and obligations under a common legal order. The Community has in the past rejected ideas of a two-speed or two-tier Community, and it is a concept that remains unacceptable to Ireland. I said recently that we intend to be founder members of Economic and Monetary Union. We intend also to be full members of the Political Union.

The third guiding factor in Ireland's approach is that the outcome of the two Intergovernmental Conferences should strengthen the capacity of the community, internally in building a strong competitive economy for the benefit of all its peoples, and externally in dealing with the major issues on the international scene. A primary requirement is that we should maintain and build on the successes already achieved. It would be a sad irony if our efforts to develop the Community were to result in a weakening of its foundations, of its capacity for action, or of the common policies already established. All organisations must grow and adapt, and there are overwhelming reasons why the Community must now equip itself to face the changed situation in Europe and beyond.

But there are a number of fundamentals, crucial to the achievement of the Community in the past and essential for its success in the future, which we wish to see preserved and built on. In the sphere of the Community proper these include the supranational as against the intergovernmental character; the sole right of initiative of the Commission in the legislative area; a single legal order; and the overall balance between the institutions, which amongst other things helps protect the position of the smaller member states.

Similarly we must not forget that in the economic area the Community has a range of solid achievements — the Common Agricultural Policy, the Common External Policy, policies to promote economic and social cohesion, the internal market — which have helped to create a dynamic and growing economy and sense of solidarity and unity of purpose between our peoples. It is on this basis that Ireland wants to see the institutional structure of the Community developed, new policies instituted, and the Community's internal and external capacity for action strengthened.

A fourth important consideration in our approach is to ensure that the Community develops in a way that is relevant to our people and will promote their welfare. The Irish people have been and are enthusiastic and committed supporters of the process of European unity. We understand and share the political inspiration behind the establishment of the Community and the motivation of its founders. We understand too that by pooling and sharing sovereignty in the areas covered by the Treaties we can better protect our interests and enhance our prosperity. These two themes — of contributing to a safer European order which would enhance our security, and of developing a more prosperous European economy in which the Irish people would share — have motivated Ireland's initiatives in the Conference on such questions as health, education, culture, and economic and social cohesion; our support for the concept of Community citizenship; and our participation in efforts to find ways of strengthening the Community's external policies.

The Intergovernmental Conference on Political Union opened in Rome in December last. It meets each week at official level and there have been five formal sessions at Foreign Minister level, as well as several informal ministerial meetings on specific questions. The outcome of the first six months work is contained in the draft treaty on the union which has been prepared by the Presidency and the text of which has been laid before the House. I must emphasise that this text is not an agreed draft. It is an attempt by the Presidency to set down in consolidated form "the prevailing drift", to use their own words, to emerge from the work of the two Conferences. At the Luxembourg Council the Heads of Government agreed that the Presidency's draft would form the basis for the continuation of the negotiations. We, like all other member states, will be arguing our case on various aspects of the draft on the basis of proposals and positions we have put forward and on the understanding, embodied in the Luxembourg Conclusions, that final agreement will only be given to the Treaty as a whole— the principle is that nothing is agreed until all is agreed.

In looking at the work of the Inter-governmental Conferences and at the text of the draft treaty it is necessary to bear in mind that the negotiations are focused on two sets of changes which are different in character. One set concerns those adaptations to the legal order of the Community proper designed to introduce or develop common economic, social, and trade policies; to improve the effectiveness of the Community; to strengthen its democratic legitimacy; and to establish an Economic and Monetary Union.

These involve essentially changes in the framework established by the Treaty of Rome. The second set of issues concerns the introduction of new forms of co-operation and action which will form part of the European Union but outside the Treaty of Rome framework. This involves the common foreign and security policy and co-operation on crime, immigration and other matters generally dealt with by Ministers of Justice or the Interior. It is at present envisaged that these two areas will have rules and decision-making procedures separate from the Treaty of Rome.

Not everyone is content with this approach, and there are those who have argued with some intellectual force for a more unified approach based on a single Treaty framework. The debate has been characterised as one between those who advocate building a union on the basis of three separate pillars and those whose preferred image is that of a tree with the branches representing the Community, common foreign and security policy and judicial co-operation. It is, however, generally recognised within the Conference that the nature of the subjects involved and the present stage in the evolution of European Union do not allow for the application to areas such as foreign and security policy and interior matters of the classic Treaty of Rome procedures, and that what is required are new and improved forms of co-operation and common action. Ireland agrees with this. A major challenge to all involved in the Conference is to find methods of co-operation and common action in these areas that will at once enhance the union's capacity and ensure unity and coherence between the union's various activities.

A related issue is the general expression contained in the draft which stipulates that the "Treaty marks a new stage in a process leading gradually to a Union with a federal goal". A great deal has been said and written about this phrase, and it is not certain at this stage whether it will find a place in the final text. For our part I could accept its inclusion in the Treaty. We are already committed in the existing Treaties to an ever-closer union, and the Community already has elements of a federal character which are likely to be enhanced by the outcome of the Intergovernmental Conferences. Expressions of this kind are of course important in setting the general direction of the Community. But what is more important, as the founders of the Community knew, is the precise content of the union — its detailed objectives, its specific activities, its common policies, its institutional structure, its legal order. These are the things that will in the end determine the character of the union and its effectiveness. If we can get these right then expressions about the federal goal or vocation of the union may appear less important obstacles to agreement than they do now.

The Conclusions of the Luxembourg Council make clear the unanimous desire of the Twelve to reinforce the identity and role of the union as a political entity on the international scene. This is at the heart of the discussions in the Inter-governmental Conference on a common foreign and security policy. Before looking at the broader issues involved I want to make three points in relation to the Luxembourg Conclusions on this question.

First, although the Twelve's general objective is clear and agreed there is not yet agreement on what is to be included in a foreign and security policy or on the means to implement it. In particular the key question of the decision-making process — whether decisions should be by unanimity or majority — has yet to be settled.

Second, the conclusions make clear, as did the conclusions in Rome in December, the distinction that we have drawn between security and defence. All member states now accept this distinction.

Third, there is no agreement on the question of a defence identity or role for the union. This is still under consideration in the Conference and will not be decided until its final stages. But the Luxembourg Council did confirm the agreement in Rome in December that any such identity will take account of the traditional positions of certain member states, including of course Ireland. Against this background I would like now to look in more detail at the work of the Intergovernmental Conference on this issue.

The debate has covered points such as the scope of a common foreign and security policy, how decisions on formulating and implementing it would be taken, what the security area should cover, whether there should be provision for a common defence policy, and whether a relationship should be established with the Western European Union, or WEU, a body to which nine Community members already belong and which has a specific brief in the defence area.

As regards the scope of a common foreign and security policy, some member states have proposed that all areas of foreign policy and security policy be brought into the common domain immediately, while others see no need for going further than strengthening the commitment and mechanisms already in place under the Single European Act. In fact, there are still wide differences between member states in important policy areas, and these will not be resolved merely by a decision that there is to be a common policy. Realistically, the idea of bringing all areas into the common domain immediately will not find the necessary agreement. On the other hand, most member states see a need for something which goes beyond the present system of European political co-operation, which is that set out in the Single European Act.

A proposal in this area which has attracted substantial interest, and which aims to establish a mechanism which would realise the objective of going beyond the scope of present co-operation, is that the new Treaty should provide for the bringing of new areas into the common policy domain on the basis of a decision by consensus in the European Council or the Council of Ministers. This would avert the need for a new Inter-governmental Conference whenever new areas were to be brought into the common policy, and would enable the member states to identify areas for inclusion on the basis of priorities agreed by them.

I believe that this is an approach we could consider, provided that we are satisfied that there will be an orderly and disciplined approach to bringing in new areas and that our interests are protected. A mechanism which would allow new areas to be introduced in an ad hoc, unconsidered way, would not be desirable. The introduction of new areas could, for example, be governed by objectives stated in the Treaty itself and prepared by full discussion at expert and ministerial level to determine whether particular areas are ripe for a common policy.

It will also be necessary in our view that decisions in the area of common foreign and security policy should be taken by consensus. A number of partners have proposed that decisions should be taken by qualified majority voting, where votes would be weighted according to the size, population and economic strength of member states or on other criteria. Our view is that foreign and security policy is a very sensitive area for all states, and where it is made the subject of joint action or common policy for the first time, it is simply not realistic to think that states will allow themselves to be bound by the votes of others if interests which they consider vital are at stake.

The area of security is a particularly sensitive one for all the member states. At the European Council in Rome in December last the Heads of State or Government agreed that certain specific areas of security should be considered for inclusion in a common policy. These include issues discussed in international organisations, such as arms control, disarmament and related issues; CSCE matters, certain questions debated in the United Nations, including peace-keeping operations; economic and technological co-operation in the armaments field; co-ordination of armaments export policy; and non-proliferation. We are urging that a close study be made of these areas with a view to determining their suitability for a common policy.

Some partners have taken the view that security inevitably includes defence. I have already said in this House that the Conclusions of the Rome II European Council distinguish between security and defence, treating the latter as something to be considered with a view to the future and without prejudice either to the positions of member states which have existing obligations in this area, such as those in NATO, or to the traditional position of other member states, which, of course, includes Ireland.

The position of successive Governments here has been that, if the Community were to develop its own defence arrangements for its security, then Ireland as a committed member state would consider participating.

A number of ideas have been canvassed, such as joint military forces for intervention outside Europe to protect Community interests, or a mutual defence commitment of the type which already exists in Western European Union. That being said, differences of orientation of a very basic kind have also emerged on the question of a common defence policy for the union.

Some partners favour the development of a defence policy for the union as such, while others object to the union developing its own defence policy and see the defence of Europe as situated firmly in the NATO context. A defence arrangement which the EC works out for itself, and which has Community interests as its primary focus, is clearly different from a system in which existing wider arrangements continue to have primacy and where non-Community members are part of the decision-making process.

We have followed the debate in this area closely. A significant part of it is taking place outside the Community framework in NATO, aiming at a NATO Summit meeting in Rome in November. Within the Twelve, there is an emerging consensus that a defence capability of the union proper is not on the cards at this stage. Indeed, the Conclusions of the Rome II themselves are an earnest of this: they speak of defence "with a view to the future".

In the meantime, the question has arisen whether a link with Western European Union might not be appropriate as a way of establishing a framework within which in due course a defence role for the Community proper and decided by the Community might be provided for. The current Western European Union Treaty remains in force until 1998. In this perspective, some member states see Western European Union becoming a part or organ of the political union. Others believe it should be separate, with a responsibility in the defence and military area which the union does not have; others again see it as potentially a European pillar of NATO or a channel between the new union and NATO. It has been proposed that Western European Union should develop security policy on behalf of the union, or that it should be the implementing arm in the military area for decisions of the union, or that it should take policy guidelines from the political union for its action in the defence area.

These proposals at present run into the obvious difficulty that not all Community member states are members of Western European Union. But even those who are have different views on the future evolution of Western European Union and on the question of a common defence policy.

For some member states, any link established between the union and Western European Union would have to be counter-balanced by a link of at least equal strength between the Western European Union and NATO. The overall shape of relations between the union and Western European Union clearly cannot be decided until the question of principle concerning the role foreseen for the union in defence matters is resolved. It is equally clear that for many of the NATO members among the Twelve, the future role of NATO, which as I mentioned earlier is also under examination in that body, will have an important bearing on their decisions in this area.

There are other proposals for centralisation of decision making in the Council of Ministers, rationalisation of preparatory and support bodies and a role of initiative for the Commission on the same basis as member states, which are generally accepted. The general aim is to rationalise the present separate systems of decisionmaking for Community business and for foreign policy. As such, they give rise to no problems of principle for us.

The development of a role for the Union in Home Affairs and Judicial Co-operation is another significant area of work of the Intergovernmental Conference. It constitutes the so-called third pillar of the Union alongside Community business proper and a common foreign and security policy. What it involves essentially is bringing into the Union the considerable areas of inter-governmental co-operation between Ministers for the Interior and Justice which already takes place outside the scope of the existing Treaties. The external borders of the Community, access, visa and asylum arrangements, immigration, drug trafficking, customs and judicial co-operation, and action against terrorism and organised crime.

Already there is a considerable agreement in principle in the Inter-governmental Conference on this issue. At our Luxembourg meeting Chancellor Kohl brought forward ideas for further developing the work of the Conference in this area, including a proposal for a European Criminal Investigation Office. All Heads of Government are agreed that the fight against drug trafficking and organised crime requires the most vigorous, determined and co-ordinated approach. At Luxembourg we agreed on the objectives underlying the Chancellor's proposals and instructed the Conference to examine them further with a view to the revision of the Union Treaty.

Ireland can agree to a more systematic arrangement for co-operation between the member states on these issues. We are working actively and constructively with our partners on the main issues involved including the scope of the arrangements, the decision-making structure, and the links between work in this area and in the Community proper. Sensitive matters of national jurisdiction are involved for all the member states and we share the view held by most of our partners that at this stage this is an area where the approach should be largely intergovernmental with the emphasis on consensus in decisionmaking.

But, of course, we cannot wait for the outcome of the Intergovernmental Conferences and the ratification of the new Treaty in order to take action in these areas. The Luxembourg Council therefore reviewed current work, especially on the free movement of persons and on drugs. Ireland has welcomed the signature by all member states of the Convention on Asylum and we wish to see early signature of the Convention on the crossing of external frontiers. At Luxembourg I strongly supported the setting up of a European Drugs Monitoring Centre and this was agreed. We also supported the proposals made by Chancellor Kohl to intensify work between now and the end of the year on immigration, asylum policy, drugs and organised crime.

Apart from the negotiations on common foreign and security policy and judicial co-operation that I have just described, a considerable proportion of the work of the two intergovernmental conferences has been devoted to revision of the Treaty of Rome itself.

It is proposed to create new Community competences in the areas of citizenship, energy, Trans-European infrastructure networks, public health, education, culture, consumer protection, tourism and civil protection against natural disasters. It is also proposed to reinforce existing competences in the areas of social policy, research and technological development, and the environment. Finally, and of great significance for Ireland, it is proposed to reinforce the provisions on economic and social cohesion.

All of these areas are very important, and we are taking an active part in the negotiations on them. We have submitted proposals for Treaty texts on education, health, and economic and social cohesion, and have co-operated with the Commission in the preparation of a text on culture.

I have previously stressed the importance I attach to the provision of arrangements for Community citizenship. The conference is considering a range of provisions which will cover rights of residence, facilities to vote in European and local elections in the country of residence, co-operation in the protection of citizens' interests in third countries, and the establishment of a Community ombudsman.

These proposals, in the form in which they have emerged in the Presidency's draft composite text, are largely acceptable as far as Ireland is concerned. In the case of electoral rights, for example, our provisions are among the most liberal in the Community. There may also have to be provision for the extension of citizens' rights as the union develops. But this is an issue which we feel will require further examination in the Conference with a view to assessing the full extent of the commitment involved.

The success of the internal market programme must count among the major achievements of the Community since its establishment. Satisfaction at its success has been accompanied by a realisation that the needs of workers and their role in the development of the single market must be acknowledged and given expression. The Community Charater of the Fundamental Social Rights of Workers, the Social Charter, agreed by eleven member states in 1989, represents a significant development in that direction.

Ireland has already taken a positive approach in this area, and we were able to sign the Social Charter. We are also taking a similarly positive approach in the Intergovernmental Conference. In my view, there has to be a strong emphasis on a Social Europe to match the emphasis given in the Single European Act to the Internal Market. The Programme for Economic and Social Progress is a clear example of what we have been able to achieve in this area. For us, of course, the maintenance and development of employment is a major consideration.

The Conference is considering the extension of majority voting in the social policy area beyond the provisions of the original Treaties and the Single European Act. The Government are, as I indicated in the Dáil on 8 May, favourably disposed in principle to the extension of qualified majority voting subject to exceptions dictated by important national considerations. The draft Union Treaty clearly stipulates certain areas which should remain subject to unanimity. We and other member states have stressed that changes in this area should not impose costs which would have a detrimental effect on job creation and employment.

For Ireland the question of economic and social cohesion is an essential part of the negotiations in the two Inter-governmental Conferences. Cohesion policy is, of course, already covered in the Treaty but in our view the major steps forward now envisaged in European integration require an enhanced cohesion dimension in the new Union.

We were conscious of this in the preparatory work for the Intergovernmental Conferences and our objective at that stage was to ensure that cohesion was placed firmly on the agenda of the Conferences. At both European Councils in Rome I argued that is should be amongst the priority issues. This was accepted by my colleagues and is well reflected in the conclusions of both these meetings.

Our next objective is to ensure that the issue is properly taken up in the negotiations and reflected in the work of the Conferences. I am particularly pleased with the discussion of economic and social cohesion at the Luxembourg Council and with the Council conclusions. There is agreement that cohesion is an integral part of the general development of the Union and that this aspect should be embodied in the Treaty in an appropriate way.

In addition, the President of the Commission made an important and interesting statement at the Council on cohesion policies and on the outlook in this area. He mentioned a number of ideas, including continued growth in the Structural Funds, the setting up of a major infrastructural programme for trans-European networks, a possible special fund for the environment and taking better account of relative wealth in contributions to the Community budget. The European Council asked the Commission to clarify the various ideas it put forward in this statement in time for the December European Council.

I am satisfied, as a result of this meeting, that real progress is being made on strengthening cohesion, both by way of appropriate Treaty amendments and by way of specific actions to implement the cohesion objective.

Shortly after the Conferences began in December last Ireland submitted a series of Treaty amendments related to economic and social cohesion. By taking the initiative we were able to set the scene for the subsequent debate and to influence the attitude of the Commission and other member states with a major interest in the area. Due in no small part to our continuing efforts, the Commission first, and subsequently the Presidency, came forward with proposals for Treaty amendments which recognise the need to strengthen the cohesion provisions. While these proposals do not go as far as Ireland would wish, we welcome their contributions to the debate, as we do the contributions of Greece, Portugal and Spain.

Our negotiating approach is based on an analysis of the need for action to promote cohesion in the EMU context and over the long term and on an assessment of what it is feasible in the current phase of European integration. Our approach is also conditioned by scepticism about the correctness of some of the more sanguine conclusions about the effects of EMU on regional disparities which the Commission drew from its analysis.

Our specific proposals have been made available to Deputies. In essence they provide for an obligation to take account of the cohesion dimension in the formulation of Community policies and in the design and implementation of Economic and Monetary Union; regular reviews of the progress towards cohesion and of the contribution made towards such progress of the various means — national policies, the Structural Funds and other Community policies — with provision, where progress towards cohesion has not been satisfactory, for proposals by the Commission and action by the Council to rectify the situation; and specific Community action to promote cohesion in the second and third stages of Economic and Monetary Union.

In addition to the reform of the cohesion chapter of the EEC Treaty we have also sought to have cohesion specifically recognised as one of the tasks of the Community, and this has been taken up in the Presidency's draft Treaty.

We are active to ensure that our concerns are adequately reflected in the final outcome. In addition to our own proposals, we have supported worthwhile proposals made by other member states. Thus, we have supported the Spanish proposal for a Treaty amendment incorporating a commitment to a rapid review and follow-up decision on the own resources system, so as to reflect much better than it now does the internationally-accepted principle of progressivity, in respect of revenue-raising measures.

Another Spanish proposal is for the creation of an Inter-State Compensation Fund in addition to the existing Structural Funds in order further to promote and underpin cohesion. Our own submission had indeed made the point that in a more fully integrated community or union it would be necessary to move towards systems of financial equalisation such as exist in closely integrated states, some of them federal states, in different parts of the world. Accordingly, we have supported the Spanish proposal.

At the Luxembourg Council we noted that there are broad areas of agreement on the basic components of Economic and Monetary Union and that the draft union treaty provisions on EMU will form a basis for continuing negotiations.

In some ways, the agenda for EMU has a more confined focus than that for political union. However, this does not mean that the consequences of our participation in EMU will be any the less profound.

If it is to be judged a success, EMU must succeed in promoting non-inflationary growth, economic convergence, high employment and economic and social cohesion. It must also be governed by the principles of stable prices, sound public finances, a sound monetary policy and a healthy balance of payments.

There will be a need for the closer co-ordination of economic policies among the 12 members states and for open, competitive markets which will allow this co-ordination to show its best results. On the monetary side, dynamism should be underpinned by the eventual introduction of a single currency which will be the outward symbol of the single monetary and exchange rate policy which most member states wish to see in place before the end of this century. This policy would be aimed at maintaining price stability and, subject to this objective, at supporting the general economic policy of the Community.

In the economic area, we are looking to the establishment of economic policy guidelines which will help to determine, in broad terms, the overall growth path of the Community. As compliance with these guidelines will be an essential element of Community discipline, it will be necessary to devise procedures to cater for the hopefully rare occurrence when one or more members states depart from them.

Deputies will be aware of the emphasis which is placed on the need for budgetary discipline if a successful and viable EMU is to be established. We have demonstrated that discipline and are resolved to adhere to it. However, to copper-fasten our achievement, we, along with other member states, have agreed that certain specific rules be incorporated in a revised Treaty, in particular, a prohibition on monetary financing and a ban on bailing out member states where inappropriate budgetary policies result in them falling into severe financial difficulties. It is also agreed that excessive budget deficits should be avoided and a special procedure will need to be devised to give effect to this aim.

In the final stage of EMU, monetary policy within the Community will be the sole responsibility of the European System of Central Banks. That system will consist of a European Central Bank and of the national central banks of the 12 member states. It will have the power to issue currency and to intervene on the markets, both domestic and foreign. Its independence will be guaranteed by the new Treaty and its day-to-day operations will be carried out by an executive board composed of individuals of proven calibre in the monetary field. Ultimate responsibility for the exchange rate policy of the Community will rest at the political level although close consultation with the ESCB authorities will be an essential prerequisite before any major decisions are taken. There is agreement that the ESCB must be democratically accountable and the new Treaty must provide the framework within which this accountability can be managed.

We are now in Stage I of EMU. Within the Community, there is a very real desire to see the second stage of EMU begin on 1 January 1994. However, a number of measures will have to be in place if this is to be realised. In addition to full liberalisation of capital movements, certain rules in the budgetary area, to which I have already referred, will need to be accepted and there must be real and visible progress in the convergence of the member states' economies. For many countries, this will require a considerable effort if inflation is to be got down to an acceptable level and if their public finances are to be put on a credible footing. Steps are now being taken to develop short to medium-term programmes for convergence on the part of the member states in question. The Luxembourg European Council emphasised the need to make satisfactory and lasting progress on convergence as of now, during the first stage.

The content of Stage 11 of EMU is still a matter of negotiation. One of the principal outstanding issues here is the nature of the monetary body to be instituted in this phase and the date of its coming into operation. In an effort to find a compromise the Luxembourg Presidency proposed the establishment of a board of governors on the entry into force of the union treaty. This board would be responsible for the promotion of the ECU and for the smooth running of the European Monetary System. It would also act to strengthen co-operation among the central banks of the member states.

The ESCB would be established at the beginning of Stage II but it would not become operational until 1 January 1996, unless there was a unanimous decision in favour of an earlier date. That system would take the place of the board of governors and would take forward the concrete preparation for the move to a single monetary policy at the start of Stage III. This compromise seems to me to be a rational way forward and it has found favour with a majority of member states.

To complete the envisaged timetable, it is intended that a report shall be drawn up, no later than 31 December 1996, which will enable the European Council to ascertain whether or not the conditions are in place, including satisfactory progress towards economic and social cohesion, to allow a date to be fixed for the passage to the final stage of EMU.

The role of the European Parliament is a significant issue for the Inter-governmental Conference on Political Union. This indicates the extent to which the Parliament has developed its position in the Community's institutional process in the 12 years since it was first directly elected. It has sought to be heard and has succeeded in being heard.

We in Ireland understand the actual and potential importance of the Parliament. In many areas, it has taken positions close to or identical with our interests. For example, in the area of the structural policies it has been very supportive of the needs of the peripheral regions.

We believe that the Intergovernmental Conference should increase Parliament's influence. And there are a number of areas where we think Parliament's role could be enhanced: we think the Parliament should have the right to confirm the appointment of the commission as a body; we are prepared to look at an extension of its powers to assent to agreements between the Community and third countries and we are also prepared to consider the formalisation of its activities in the areas of petition and inquiry.

In addition to these measures, we believe that a great deal can be done to increase the Parliament's influence in the legislative area. More should be done to ensure that the Council takes account of Parliament's first reading opinions. The existing co-operation procedure introduced by the Single Act which provides for two readings should be extended to new areas of Community activity. At the second reading stage there should be direct discussions between Parliament and the Council in order to see if a common position can be reached. In making these changes, we consider that the role of the Commission in reviewing the amendments proposed by the Parliament and as the intermediary in the contacts between the Council and the Parliament is vital and should be maintained. Overall changes along these lines would considerably enhance the Parliament's powers in the legislative field.

There is as yet no agreement in the Conference on proposals to give Parliament the right of co-decision with the Council on legislative acts. This was confirmed at our discussions in Luxembourg. For our part we are reserved on ideas for full co-decision. In order to facilitate the operation of co-decision, it has been proposed that the present classification of Community legislation should be modified to provide for a new type of legislative instrument — the law — and that the Parliament should be able to share the final word with the Council on the adoption of this type of legislation. In our view the present system of Community legislation has served the Community well, and it does not seem prudent to alter it simply to extend Parliament's powers. If Parliament is to have some say in the final decision in a limited area, it should not be on the basis of an artificial reclassification of legislation but on a carefully defined basis which would have to include provisions for any voting by the Parliament to be by a majority of all its members. Moreover, we must ensure that the arrangements introduced do not add to the already lengthy procedure for processing Community legislation.

A final point I would like to make on the issue of co-decision is the role of the national parliaments. It should be remembered that the national parliaments process a considerable amount of legislation arising out of Community activities. It is also important to remember that the members of the Council are accountable to their national parliaments, and as such the Council has its roots clearly in the democratic process. The Conference has yet to consider proposals on the role of national parliaments, and, when it does, Ireland will take a positive view on enhancing their involvement in the work of the Community.

This, then, is the scope of the negotiation underway in the Inter-governmental Conferences on Political Union and Economic and Monetary Union, and a description of the main issues which have arisen up to now in the negotiations.

The Government agree that the Europe of 1991 and beyond demands that the Community strengthen its capacity for facing this new situation and undertake a new, significant step forward in the progress towards that European Union which has long been its objective.

Ireland is fully committed to this objective. As an organisation, the Community is unique on the world scene, and it is unique precisely because its ultimate objective goes further than those set by other associations of states or international organisations.

Membership of the Community has been of great benefit to Ireland. We have for almost 20 years been able to play a central role in the European body which, as I said at the opening, has been outstanding in maintaining and enhancing its validity while Europe changed around it over the last two years. The Government are determined to maintain Ireland's membership of the Community and the benefits it brings. In the Government's view, this will entail Ireland continuing to play a full and central role in the affairs of the Community as they develop. "Opting out" of the central policies of the Community can seem an attractive proposition only to those who take a shallow view of affairs. It is not an alternative which the Government consider would serve the country's interests.

Our general approach to the two Inter-governmental Conferences, then, is one of ensuring that, as the Community makes further progress in its integration, Ireland will continue to play the full part in all its policies that it has played since joining in 1973. In this approach, we will be serving the interests not only of the Irish people, but of the people of Europe as a whole.

First, I would like to say that I am not happy with the format of this debate. The subject matter here is so complex and serious, and there are so many different compartments in which it can be debated, that really it is unsatisfactory to have a debate without having a question and answer session where Ministers and particularly the Taoiseach, would have to answer questions on particular parts of their speeches. It is also unsatisfactory that the Government have not tabled any substantive motion for this debate which sets out their policies on which the House could either agree or disagree. We have instead a series of statements which are open to any number of different interpretations and upon which no detailed questioning or scrutiny takes place. I regard that as an unsatisfactory way of scrutinising a matter of such enormous complexity.

This debate is almost as important to this House as was the debate on the Constitution of 1937. The changes in the governance of this island that will occur as a result of the changes in the Treaty that are in prospect are almost as far reaching as were the changes that took place when the new Constitution was enacted in 1937. We need just as detailed a form of discussion as we had on that occasion which none of us in this House remember.

Within its own terms of reference I am disappointed with the outcome of this Summit. There are four basic reasons for this. First, the Summit did not apparently discuss the problem of unemployment and yet that is the subject of greatest concern certainly to the citizens of Irealnd and to the citizens of most European countries. In my view the Treaty of Rome should contain an explicit commitment to the achievement of full employment in Europe which would govern the activities of all European institutions. This should have been included in the communique from this Summit but it was not.

The fiscal policies of member states should be managed on a co-operative basis designed to maximise total employment. Big countries should not be allowed, as Germany is now doing, to soak up limited European savings in a wasteful way because it is not prepared to pay out of tax money for the cost of German unification and instead is paying by borrowing money and driving up interests rates for everyone else in Europe.

So far as unemployment is concerned the Summit should have agreed to the establishment of a properly financed labour market research institute for Europe to help members to develop the best micro-economic policies to convert spending into jobs. Present European policies are failing to convert economic growth into additional employment and only Denmark is worse than Ireland in this regard. We have the worst record in converting economic growth into jobs. This has been demonstrated in recent tables. There is no country which needs the best available advice on converting output into jobs more than we do, and we should press for the establishment of an institute to help countries to ensure that their policies are pro-employment. If the Summit was in touch with the thinking of European people it would surely have spent some time on the problem of unemployment.

It is not clear from the Summit communique that when and if European monetary union is established it will be accompanied by a substantial increase in the European budget nor is it clear that the budget will be extended to include large scale support for, for example, education in member states like Ireland who have to provide skilled workers trained at Irish expense in the form of a subsidy to the economies of other member states where they work, for instance, Britain. if there is to be a genuine sense of community in Europe, Europe should fund education. There is no commitment in the Summit communique to move in that direction. It is likely that we will have a Treaty which will have much by way of commitments on paper to improve things but without financial means to do so. The framework agreement with regard to the budget does not expire until the end of 1993. However, the Intergovernmental Conferences will be concluded before then. We will agree on paper to all sorts of things without having any knowledge as to whether money will be there to pay for them. Ireland should insist on a linkage between agreement on a substantial enhancement of the Community budget with any agreement on further enhancement of the powers of the European Community institutions. We want to see an enhancement of the powers of European Community institutions. It is in our interests that that should happen, but it is only in our interests if Europe can have the financial means to fulfill the obligations of Europe. A Europe with many obligations on paper without the financial means to fulfill them will be a deceit practised on the people of Europe.

The Taoiseach, representing a peripheral nation should have sought clearer commitments with regard to the European budget. It is particularly notable that in the Commission's proposals for a new Treaty for a political union there is no reference to education. There is reference to the environment, energy, research, culture and the protection of heritage but not to education. There is no other area in which there is a greater need for European commitment than in funding education.

I am disappointed, too, that the Summit failed to introduce tighter control on the use of industrial grants and other forms of local aid in richer countries to attract industry and jobs from the poorer countries. One reason Ireland has to offer such a very high level of capital grants to industry is that richer countries like The Netherlands and Belgium are doing it on a large scale, thus forcing us to spend our money on capital grants to industry, which is not the best use of our money. If we want to have genuine cohesion and convergence in Europe, there must be European discipline to prevent richer countries from attracting jobs from the poorer countries by using their financial might to offer unfairly attractive incentives to industry. The extra top up grants given by richer countries distort free competition in Europe and yet there is not a single word in the communique about any limitation on that practice.

If the communique is to be believed, it seems that richer member states will also be able to continue to top up aid to their farmers in Europe while poorer member states like Ireland with more farmers and less money will not be able to do so. This is already obvious in the case of the set aside grants where other countries are topping up grants but the Irish Government are either not able or are unwilling to do so. This is also true with regard to headage payments and we will go further along that road. We are heading towards the re-nationalisation of agricultural policies where richer countries will be able to give an unfair advantage to their farmers against the farmers in poorer countries like Ireland. There will be unfair competition in Europe with richer countries helping their industry and their farmers to attract resources to the centre from the periphery. The communique should refer to strong action to outlaw such topping up grants, but it does not do so because the Irish Government have not made a sufficient case to do so.

We must have not just a free Europe, not just a united Europe but a fair Europe. As long as rich countries can offer bigger incentives to farmers and industrialists we will not have a fair Europe.

I am disappointed also that the Summit did not discuss the crisis in European agriculture which will arise from the pressure on the CAP in the world trade talks and from the proposals that are being made by Commissioner MacSharry in that regard. Ireland will lose more from these proposals than will any other EC country. Estimates have been made of a loss of up to 16,000 PAYE industrial jobs and up to 22,000 jobs on farms will be lost as a result of changes in the CAP. A country with 262,000 people unemployed should not contemplate losing an additional 40,000 jobs in that way. The social change involved will be truly traumatic for families and the rural localities involved.

The Summit should have authorised the development of a coherent policy to protect the people and the countries involved, like Ireland. Europe needs to ensure that it has sufficient native food production to feed the 320 million citizens of the Community in an emergency. While Europe has surpluses at present, and those surpluses are growing, there is a possibility that the reform of the Common Agricultural Policy, which is anti-economic and designed to reduce the competitiveness of European agriculture in the world as a whole because it is handicapping, in particular, commercial production, may destroy the basic capacity of Europe to feed itself over the next decade. This would leave Europe strategically vulnerable. Making this case is of particular importance to Ireland because Ireland, unlike most other European countries where much of the agricultural production is based on imported raw materials from outside Europe, can produce food for Europe using Irish grass and Irish grown grain without the necessity of resorting to imports from Thailand, New Orleans or anywhere else. Ireland has the agricultural capacity to produce food for Europe regardless of the availability of imports.

The Taoiseach should have made a case for special treatment of Ireland in regard to the proposed reforms of the Common Agricultural Policy because we, almost alone in Europe, can produce a surplus of food for Europe without having to rely on imported raw materials. It appears the Taoiseach did not make that case and the reform of the Common Agricultural Policy will be disastrous in its consequence for Ireland and will have taken effect before the next Summit in Maastricht. The last opportunity the European Prime Ministers had to give a clear direction as to what way the reform of the Common Agricultural Policy should go was at the Summit in Luxembourg. The reform will be a fait accompli by the time the Prime Ministers meet at their next meeting at Maastricht. The Taoiseach did not avail of the opportunity to make that case at the meeting in Luxembourg. He has been particularly negligent in this matter.

I wish to refer to the communiqué issued after the Summit which contains the following statements: the European Council considers the Uruguay Round to be the first priority in international economic relations and the European Council calls on the Council and the Commission, in its capacity as negotiator, to continue their efforts to enable the Uruguay Round to come to a satisfactory conclusion. There was not one word in the communiqué about agriculture or the implications of that for the economy of this country, the destruction of rural Ireland or the destruction of 16,000 PAYE jobs in processing. Yet these references to the Uruguay Round were contained in the draft communiqué the Taoiseach had before him when he went to the Summit. It was wide open to him to seek at the Summit the inclusion of a phrase such as, "while recognising the particular problems of certain member states which have an extreme reliance on agriculture". If such a phrase had been included in the European Council's communiqué it would have had a considerable directive role on the subsequent deliberations both at the Council of Ministers and the Commission. The Taoiseach was presented with a golden opportunity to do this because there was a statement in the communiqué about the Uruguay Round. However, he failed to avail of this opportunity to insert any statement about the special position of Ireland. He was negligent in this regard.

It seems that the Government have no European policy of their own. They see their role as one of reacting to other people's ideas. Thus, they are abdicating their responsibility to the Irish people to seek to shape the Europe of the future in our interests as a people. For example, Spain has proposed an alliance of peripheral states to fight for their rights. They have also proposed a formalised method of transferring resources from wealthier to less wealthy states, as applies in the German federal system and which I suggested to the Taoiseach in this House two years ago. Ireland should have been making those suggestions. Why did we leave it to Spain to make them? Why are we allowing Spain to do our work for us? Why are we simply trotting along after Spain, which the Taoiseach is doing by saying he agrees with their proposal? Surely Ireland should have made that proposal first and Spain should have agreed with us? We have a greater interest than Spain in the need for protection for peripheral states and in having a formalised method for transferring resources from richer to poorer countries. Unfortunately, we are following the Spanish rather than the other way round. This is not as it should be.

It appears from the Taoiseach's speech that the Irish Government are opposed to giving powers of co-decision with the Council of Ministers to the European Parliament. This is a foolish and unsustainable position. It will isolate us from mainstream European opinion and will leave us in the company of nobody else but, perhaps, the United Kingdom. If this policy is persisted with, it will create a very serious situation. The Italian Parliament passed a resolution to the effect that it will not accept the new Treaty unless the European Parliament accepts it first. Therefore, if the Parliament is not satisfied that it has adequate powers of co-decision there may be no outcome at all at the Inter-Governmental Conferences. Rather than taking the position the Taoiseach has taken and saying that we do not want any powers of co-decision for the European Parliament, we should have been supporting the idea of giving greater powers to the European Parliament and, perhaps, seeking to adjust the operation of the Parliament to suit the needs of a country like Ireland which is relatively small.

I hope the Taoiseach will not suggest that the Council of Ministers is a democratically accountable body because it is not. Dáil Éireann has no say whatever in the positions taken by Irish Ministers at the Council of Ministers. That was true under all Governments but it is particularly true under the present Government. We only hear about what the Taoiseach and Ministers are doing at European meetings after the event and we have no say before the event in what they do. Therefore, it is wrong to suggest that somehow or other the Council of Ministers is a body with a similar democratic and open mandate as the European Parliament.

It would be interesting in this regard to hear the Taoiseach's views on the French proposal of a congress of national parliaments on European matters. This issue was not referred to in the Taoiseach's speech and, although it was tabled by the French President, no reference seems to have been made to it in the Luxembourg communiqué.

We are in favour of it.

That is interesting. I believe — I say this with some care— that if we are to give more powers to the European Parliament, which we should, we should look at a major restructuring of the European Parliament. We should have a European Senate with equal representation of member states, as applies, for example, in the United States Senate, as a co-equal with the directly elected lower house which has proportionate representation to population. That would give the European Parliament, on a bicameral basis, a genuinely federal system with a proper balance between the interests of smaller member states and the interests of the majorities of population which exist in the larger member states. Rather than simply objecting to more powers for the European Parliament, which essentially is what the Government are doing, we should be looking for a restructuring of the Parliament.

I know we will be told that that proposal is unrealistic, nobody agrees with it and so on but that is not a reason for not putting it on the agenda. Proposals which frequently appear unrealistic initially can, in the maelstrom of negotiations when other positions are gradually ruled out one after the other, become the only proposals on which anyone can ultimately agree. I ask the Taoiseach to consider favourably the establishment of a European Senate along the lines of the United States Senate, a Senate directly elected by the people of the member states, as is the United States Senate. In the present Intergovernmental Conferences, the Irish Government are so worked up about theoretical defence issues — this is reflected in the Taoiseach's speech today — and blocking any progress in that area that they are failing to put forward any new views on other issues which might be beneficial to Ireland and have a more immediate and practical effect.

I now wish to refer to certain other matters, to certain aspects of the Luxembourg communique itself, to the Taoiseach's speech and, finally, to the Commission's submission to the Inter-governmental Conferences on political union. The Summit communique contains on the second page certain language which I find hard to understand. It states: "Common foreign and security policy will extend to all questions relating to the security of the Union". On the face of it that is a very simple statement. Obviously, one's ability to defend oneself has something to do with security but we have been told that defence is not involved. What does the sentence "common foreign and security policy will extend to all questions relating to the security of the Union" mean then? That must mean defence, or does it? It is not clear to me; if it does not include defence, the statement in the communique is wrong because it does not extend to all questions relating to the security of the Union if that is the case. It would appear that a union which cannot defend itself is not secure.

Another sentence which I find difficult to comprehend is as follows: "The European Council has agreed that the question of strengthening the defence identity of the Union will be decided at the final stage of the Conference". We should note the words "the question of strengthening the defence identity of the Union will be decided at the final stage of the Conference". That implies that there is already a defence identity of the Union. Is there and what does it mean? It is not clear. They go on to say that this identity will take account of the traditional positions of certain member states. The earlier sentence implies that there is already a defence identity. Now they are talking about the need to take into account in the future the traditional positions of member states. What does that language mean? It seems to be peculiarly opaque and I am surprised that the Taoiseach did not elucidate on this language because to me — I may be a simple fellow as Sir Anthony Esmonde used to say — it is meaningless.

The Deputy can take it to mean what he wants it to mean.

That sounds like Alice in Wonderland.

It is a complete, straightforward, internal contradiction.

With regard to economic and monetary union and the achievement of convergence the communique states: "The European Council notes that in the near future several Governments intend to submit specific multi-annual programmes designed to secure the requisite progress on convergence which will quantify the objectives and the means of securing them". May I ask the Taoiseach or whoever is going to reply to the debate on behalf of the Government if Ireland is one of the countries which is about to submit a multi-annual programme and, if so, when?

Yes, this year.

Will this supersede the Programme for Economic and Social Progress?

No, it will be derived from it.

Or as much of it as remains by then.

Those are the points I wish to make with regard to that matter but I will come back to it. I now want to refer to the Taoiseach's speech, in particular to the position on Yugoslavia. We, in Ireland, should have a special sympathy for those peoples in Central Europe who wish to achieve the right to self-determination for their historic nations. The European Community took the view, when the suggestion was made initially, that if Slovenia decided after a referendum, similar to the election held here in 1918 when the majority were in favour of self-determination, that it wanted to achieve its independence, that what was good enough for Ireland in 1918-19 should be good enough for Slovenia in 1991. It will be recalled by Members of this House that when the Versailles Treaty negotiations were taking place, representatives of Dáil Éireann sought to be heard. They were refused a hearing by the wise statesmen of that time who believed that it would be wrong to disturb existing boundaries and that Ireland should remain part of the enforced union of Great Britain and Ireland.

To some extent the reaction of the practical statesmen of Europe meeting in Luxembourg to the wishes of the Slovenes for self-determination is very similar to the view expressed by the practical men at Versailles in 1918-19. The Slovenian and Croatian authorities are acting on foot of the results of referenda among their peoples just as Dáil Éireann was acting on foot of the results of the general election held in December 1918. Indeed, it is fair to say that the mandate of the Slovenian authorities is far clearer than the mandate given in the general election held in 1918 when Members were elected to the British Parliament. It was not a referendum held on the issue of independence specifically whereas the referenda held in Slovenia and Croatia dealt specifically with that issue.

(Interruptions.)

May I be allowed by Deputy Quinn, whom I will not interrupt, to conclude my remarks as I wish to put this statement into proper context? If the principle of self-determination is to be introduced in different parts of Central Europe, where many peoples are intermingled, the principle for one people will only be able to exist at the expense of another. It is important that Europe should approach this matter on a parallel basis. The first principle which should be accepted is that of self-determination. One cannot repress a people's desire to be free by force but there must be another pillar and that is a proper code for the protection of the political rights of minorities. What Europe should now be doing, through the Council of Europe of which all these countries are now members, is evolving a system which includes not just rights for minorities in terms of individual rights to speak their language and education but also the right to political participation.

The model of executive power sharing attempted in this island in the seventies under the Sunningdale Agreement represents an ideal model and should be considered for application in other parts of Europe. For example, in Croatia, where there is a significant Serbian minority, it should be possible to introduce a European code which would say that the Serbs are entitled to certain political rights within Croatia if Croatia achieves the right to self-determination. Those rights should be justifiable in a European court. We should work towards a charter of political rights for minorities, which includes the right to political and executive participation in Government. If we do this we can at the same time move towards self-determination for the peoples on that basis and not on any other.

The lessons of Irish history over the past 70 years are particularly instructive and useful for the peoples of Central Europe who are seeking to reconcile the right to self determination on the one hand with the proper protection of minorities on the other. We need to draw from Irish experience a proposal, drafted under a proper European umbrella to ensure there is fairness to all sides, which reconciles the principle of self determination with the protection of minorities. Ireland of all the countries in Europe has a right, a duty and a historic responsibility to be the country which stands up for self-determination on a properly modulated and guaranteed basis to ensure protection of minorities. The Taoiseach therefore, while I do not criticise him for going along with the Community on these matters, should have been more ambitious in suggesting from Irish experience useful models to be followed in the future.

With regard to the reference in the Taoiseach's speech to the structure of the Treaty, he states that he agrees that there should be separate pillars to the Treaty, with certain matters being dealt with centrally under the Treaty of Rome and other matters being dealt with in other ways under the aegis of the very top of the European Council, the European Prime Ministers, in other words rather than having a single Treaty, with a single political mandate we would have a number of Treaties and a number of arrangements with the only common thread being the council of Prime Ministers meetings, which would be held twice a year in whatever country held the Presidency at a particular time. To my mind that is a recipe for ensuring that we will never have a truly federal Europe and we will never achieve anything substantial in Europe if we continue on that basis.

The Taoiseach has told us that he agrees with this multifarious approach to the building of a common European home, but I profoundly disagree with him on this issue. This is quite an important distinction in the positions of the two major parties in this House. I understand how the Taoiseach has reached that conclusion, that he is a practical man who is anxious to make progress in the short term — and I do not say this in any personally critical or disrespectful way — but I disagree profoundly with the conclusion the Taoiseach has reached on this issue. I think we should have a unitary Treaty with perhaps different means of decision-making, unanimity for some decisions and non-unanimity for others. I think we should have a Commissioner in the European Commission responsible for foreign policy. Foreign policy should not be something out there to be dealt with under another procedure but should be part of the Treaty of Rome, just as all the other matters are. Perhaps the Taoiseach's views on this are not as fixed in stone as the text would suggest and I would hope that is the case.

The Taoiseach says that "the new Treaty should provide for the bringing of new areas into the common policy domain on the basis of decision by consensus in the European Council or the Council of Ministers."

I had the privilege of being a member — and it was one of the instructive periods of my political career — of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. As the Taoiseach probably knows, the Committee of Ministers at the Council of Europe can only act by unanimity. The Council of Europe was established in 1949 with a very ambitious concept that it would extend its competence to a very wide area. There were provisions for the parliamentary assembly to be in almost constant session because there would be so many responsibilities undertaken by the Council of Europe. However, the Council of Europe never developed beyond a very limited area of voluntary co-operation in the area of education and quite important provisions in regard to the protection of fundamental freedoms and human rights. In my view the reason it never developed beyond that was precisely because it is based, to use the Taoiseach's words, on decision by consensus. There is no provision for majority voting. I tabled a motion in the Council of Europe seeking the introduction of majority voting over a wider area. In my view if you go down the road of not having majority voting we will not make progress and the European Community will congeal in just the same way as the Council of Europe has congealed.

I did say that new areas can be added by majority voting provided it is done in a structured way.

I thank the Taoiseach for his intervention. I think it proves the point that it might be better if we had a more interactive debate. However I am not trying to be in any way personal in raising objections.

There is another interesting matter I wish to raise. The European Commission in their proposals in regard to citizenship, which is a new title they want to introduce into the Treaty, say that every Union citizen shall be entitled to invoke the rights guaranteed by the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and fundamental freedoms, which the Union accepts. That is very welcome. However the Irish people adopted a change in the Constitution which renders abortion unconstitutional. The Constitution currently supersedes the provisions of the existing European Convention on Human Rights but if the European Convention on Human Rights is introduced as part of Community law as distinct from part of the Council of Europe law, then the European Convention on Human Rights will supersede our Constitution because we have already agreed that obligations under the European Community's Treaties can override the provisions of our Constitution. It would be interesting if the Taoiseach would indicate whether that provision of the Treaty would mean if the Commission proposal is agreed, that the provisions of our Constitution in matters of this kind would be superseded by the provisions of the Strasbourg Convention. It may be that that particular proposal will not be adopted, in which case it is not a problem, but perhaps the Taoiseach or one of his Ministers would address this issue when replying to the debate.

The last point I wish to raise is in relation to the completion of the internal market. I had the opportunity of meeting six of the Prime Ministers whom the Taoiseach met last weekend, on the weekend previous to that when they were preparing for the meeting. Their concern was that the meeting would make progress in regard to the internal market. One area in which Ireland is failing in this regard is in the ratification of the European Community Convention on patents; although we adopted the Convention in 1974 we have not yet ratified it because it requires a constitutional amendment. I believe if we are to have a free internal market we must ratify that convention because Ireland's non-ratification is holding up its operation in other member states. We are not just holding up ourselves but the rest of Europe as well. In reply to questioning by me the Minister for Industry and Commerce gave very indefinite answers as to when there might be such a constitutional amendment but I would like to know when there will be such a constitutional amendment.

I was nearly going to call on the Taoiseach Deputy Haughey, to reply to some of the more interesting questions that were tabled towards the end of Deputy Bruton's contribution. Tragically I suspect — and I say this with all respect — that we will not get a comprehensive reply to the many questions that have been raised by Deputy Bruton. At the outset I would like to concur with him perhaps not in the same tone, but with the same observation. If one looks at the multitude of journalists in the gallery who are riveted with excitement to this debate, I think the Taoiseach will concede just how inappropriate this mechanism is of communicating ideas about the implications of the next stage in the European Union. If they had the slightest whiff of what Deputy Bruton was referring to in the last few moments of his comprehensive speech they would be packed out along the corridor, as the Taoiseach well knows.

I would like to start at the end and work backwards. In all probability we will have to face a referendum sometime in the autumn of 1992, some 16 months away, and I would urge this administration not to make the mistake which the previous administration of which I was a member made of not preparing the Irish public by not supplying them with sufficient information on the implications of the Single European Act. I think the Taoiseach's party will remember that that debate was characterised by misinformation, misapprehension and downright malevolent ignorance on the part of some people who were stirring the pot, and that we very nearly did not ratify the Single European Act for reasons for which all of us in this House share some responsibility. If the Taoiseach accepts that conclusion, and I have reason to believe that he does not disagree with it, it is therefore essential that the Irish Government very soon publish a White Paper on the present position of the Irish Government, and indeed the present position of the Fianna Fáil Party, as the dominant party within that Government — and I will get back to that point in a few moments. The position of the Irish Government is as relevant as the reaction at the end of the compromise and negotiating process when the two treaties emerge side by side. Even if such a White Paper were to be non-conclusive, it could simply set out the issues in a comprehensive way, initiating debate and signalling the Irish Government's preferred option in respect of those matters which still need to be resolved. Our democracy, if it wants to give effect to the commitment to European union, needs such an informed debate but we are not having it in this House. We need a committee or journalists who will take this issue seriously who will listen to what we are saying. We are not getting these. A monster, a Moby Dick, will suddenly surface and devour not just the present Administration but the political ideals of the various parties represented in this House. A proper debate is critical.

The Taoiseach's speech today was perhaps the most comprehensive statement he has made on European affairs in this House. It was a densely packed speech, clear, concise and explicit in many respects, shorn of any kind of cosmetic rhetoric. Where the Taoiseach could give positions he indicated them. The Taoiseach referred to new competences in relation to home affairs which will include crime, drugs, citizenship, energy, trans-European infrastructure networks, public health, education, culture, consumer protection, tourism and civil protection against natural disasters. There is also to be increased competence in areas which already have a competence. That specific agenda on its own is worthy of considerable scrutiny and explanation. We do not have the parliamentary mechanism to get adequate information from the Taoiseach or from the Minister of State with responsibility for European Affairs regarding the implications for any of these areas. The question and answer exchange at Question Time is useful but limited. A good Minister with the backup of a good supplementary brief will carefully avoid answering any question that might be potentially difficult. Since there are plenty of good Ministers in the Government they are well capable of doing that. We are not getting the kind of information we need. A false argument could be made which could derail the political European union which this country wants.

Part of the problem rests with the Fianna Fáil Party. They have no European partner. They are orphans in Europe, having more or less severed their relationship with their cousins, the Gaullists, who have retreated into a racist, nationalist pose to which Fianna Fáil would never want to aspire. Part of the problem regarding the debate in this Parliament is that the largest single party is a political orphan on the European stage. The Fianna Fáil Party cannot have access to the European People's Party network or to the Socialist group or the Left group of which Deputy Proinsias De Rossa is a member. This is seriously impeding a conscious development within the Fianna Fáil Party which is of major significance to this Parliament. Fianna Fáil will always be a major party in this Parliament, irrespective of what people think or do not think about them. Because of the lack of contact, lack of friends and relations within the political family of Europe, the Government appear to be following the debate rather than initiating it. They appear to be hesitant about living with the word "federal" but they will not get hung up on the adjective "federal". On the one hand they seem to be happy with the idea of supranational structures within the EC but at the same time they would prefer inter-governmental structures. It is classic Thatcherism to say, as the Government do, that somehow or other the Council of Ministers is democratically accountable to their national parliaments. Everyone knows that is simply not true. It is far less true in this House than in the mother of parliaments where the phrase was coined by a prime minister. It does not even begin to compare with the level of accountability of Danish Ministers to their parliament. That is the other extreme.

There is a lack of commitment and clarity and a lack of confidence. I did not think I would ever hear myself accuse Fianna Fáil of lacking confidence. It is the one commodity they have had in abundance. Some people would give it another word but politeness and the desire to have a constructive debate do not entice me down that road. It is a serious impediment to responding to the many points made by Deputy Bruton. As Leader of the Fine Gael Party in this House he is a senior member of the European Christian Democratic-European People's Party. He reflected very clearly not only the ideology and thinking of the broad span of that party but also the awareness of the members of that party in respect of the agenda in Luxembourg two weeks ago. If we do not get a White Paper in respect of the thinking of the Fianna Fáil Party or the Government on whether they are in favour of a federal Europe or separate pillars, we will not be able to respond positively to the minute detail of some aspects of the treaty that will emerge. I forecast a very confused referendum debate which will be hijacked by the maniacs in the pro-life movement who will discard every other dimension of closer European union and run a campaign on the basis of a scare. That potential nightmare should be stopped in its tracks by a detailed exposition by the Government of their position in this area.

This would have been a far better debate if we had had sight of the Taoiseach's speech 24 hours ago. There is a lot of meat in the statement, some of which is incapable of being digested on the Floor of the House. The debate on EMU is rather mechanistic once the provisions for social cohesion are included. The stages from one to three are defined within fairly confined parameters and the options, which are of a quasi-technical nature, are limited. These can be assessed against a criteria of measures to see if they are satisfactory. They are to a lesser extent value free.

The area of EMU is very different. My own party are not without sin in this regard. The Labour Party in a post-cold war situation must define what neutrality actually is and must define what our commitment to European union is. Are we prepared to defend the union to which we subscribe if that union is succeeding in moving towards a closer and closer post-federal Europe? We have not yet a constitutional adjective to describe what will finally emerge.

It is clear that the question of defence will have to be met, and we have no problem with that. We are prepared to defend the Union which the Labour Party, a participant in this Parliament whether in Government or in Opposition, will vote for. We are prepared to make the necessary provisions for the defence of that Union as Europeans. We do not want an Atlantic dimension to our defence, and that is part of the problem when we consider those who are in favour of the pillars and those who are in favour of the federal position. Then within the federal position there are Atlanticists who would like to have NATO just subsumed into a European structure. All these questions need to be resolved and put much more clearly than they are. They are alluded to in the Taoiseach's contribution but are not made explicit.

In an evolving intellectual, political debate I offer to this House that my party along with major socialist parties within the EC who do not have an imperial tradition or who do not feel they won the Second World War single-handed, for example the British Labour Party, would be in principle more in favour of a European defence commitment that does not involve in an integral decision-making way the Atlantic dimension of, essentially, the USA. That issue should be brought out on the Floor of this House, preferably in a foreign affairs committee. I think I can anticipate what the Minister of State's preference might be in that regard, but other people make these decisions for us. This kind of extended exchange is unsatisfactory. There is not unanimity in one group; the socialist group in the European Parliament consists of rabid militarists who polish their medals with great alacrity and think militarism is good for the character and all this kind of nonsense. Others are total pacificists, and I suspect there is a similar spectrum, though not as extensive, in the European People's Party. Therefore, I am not speaking from a position of unique, coherent, centralised unanimity but the socialist leaders' meeting about four weeks ago, which was similar to the one to which Deputy Bruton referred, raised this very question. The German Social Democratic Party in particular are very strong on this question of a defence commitment for European Union but in terms of a defence capacity that does not become a euphemism for a new colonial strike force that can suddenly decide Third World countries interfering with European multi-national installations somewhere in the Third World trying to extract a higher rate of exchange, are now attacking essential European interests and, therefore, a multi-national European strike force has the right within Community law to fly in and do an Entebbe type commando raid on it. Some of our colleagues in the French party are particularly strong on this idea. People have accused President Delors of being distraught, that he did not have a review of uniformed Community soldiers to look at at the height of the Gulf War, unlike President Mitterrand, Mrs. Thatcher or all the others who were out visiting the troops. I make that observation somewhat flippantly.

That is why he wanted to become President of France instead.

Quite possibly. There is a very strong militarist tradition within the French culture. Part of it is very much central to the culture of the French Socialist Party.

I am making these references simply to illustrate that Fianna Fáil's articulation of their own view in this area should not be impeded by a belief that the other parties on the European stage have a coherent, single resolved position. We do not. It is an evolving position. To come back to the Irish national interest, we will not approach this debate, effectively to the best of our capacity if the major party in Government are refusing to articulate their own options or preferences in any manner, shape or form. I tried to read the Minister's speech a second time while listening to Deputy Bruton and going through it, in some key areas it is not 100 per cent clear at this stage what preferred option the Government hold. There is an idea that the Irish Government, on behalf of the Irish people, at some Council meetings which are not open to the press — though for all the leaking that goes on afterwards they might as well be and people might behave a little better in more ways than one — are being led rather than participating, that we are silent, poor relations afraid to open our mouths. That is not in the national interest. I want to say formally to the two Fianna Fáil Deputies here in the House for whom I have professional respect that the Fianna Fáil Party's present inability to establish a developed position on Europe, an inability which comes out of their traditions, which draws on the strength of that party over the years, is an impediment not only to the development of their own party, which is a matter for themselves, but is not helping the Irish national interest because of their position in Government.

Let me turn to cohesion and peripherality and Deputy Bruton's reference to taking an initiative with peripheral states. I believe the peripheral states we should be talking to at this stage are those that are about to join, not the mendicants from the Mediterranean, because that creates the wrong impression altogether. We are not getting into some kind of begging queue or béal bocht queue with the outstretched lámh looking for extra money or extra funding. In many respects we are fundamentally different from the Greeks in relation to development, and from the Portuguese. Spain is quite a complex and diverse country from the point of view of regional development and economy. Deputy Bruton referred to the internal barriers to cohesion that are erected within the developed "golden triangle" of the EC, barriers to trade and competition set up by national distortions and national instruments of industrial policy which effectively discriminate against other European competitors entering into those markets. The Irish Republic is capable of trading its way to prosperity. Our citizens are capable of earning the kind of average median European wealth other countries have. I do not believe we need a permanent social welfare handout from somebody in Brussels. We need the same person in Brussels to eliminate the barriers that prevent the Smurfits and the others from competing in the centre of Europe for a share of the market which we are capable of getting if those barriers are removed. I think the people who can help us in peripheral terms to make that kind of assault are the people who are going to confront the same barriers once they get in, the Austrians and the Swedes. If we were to set up some kind of peripheral alliance of an ad hoc nature or peripheral discussions of an ad hoc nature it is with those countries we should now be talking and saying to them openly and frankly that we have been within the EC for 20 odd years, that we are a small, cohesive, “Murphya”, as somebody once described us in terms of our knowledge of the institutions of the EC, and that we will help in so far as they think we can help them to negotiate their operation of the European institutions for the transitional period in return for tactical alliances on areas where there are obstacles to trade from places like the Benelux countries, to a certain extent parts of Italy and certainly parts of France. The CII and the Irish Business Bureau in Brussels have identified these fairly clearly for the Irish Government.

Of course, capital transfers for infrastructural development in areas of communication and roads and some tourism development are important but they are not essential, and so long as this Government keep giving out the attitude that we are going to get more money from the Structural Funds and more grants from Brussels in the enlarged Structural Funds, then in my view we are missing the main target. Since 1922 this State has been pouring money into the west of Ireland. Harbours, now abandoned, along the west coast give testimony to that. But there are marvellous tourism infrastructural facilities for both Irish people and foreign visitors who come to our shores. Efforts were made by people on the east coast to make structural transfers to the west coast to facilitate viable economic jobs but they did not work.

Deputy Lenihan — who knows the west of Ireland well — knows that to get to his holiday home in Ballyconneely, he has to drive past about five different failed investment projects which existed since the mid-fifties. There was no difference between the money which came from Brussels and that which came from Dublin for those ventures.

There is a culture here that if only we get another raft of money from somewhere — originally it was Dublin, now it is Brussels and in some places it was the American fund — we will get a project right in these areas. I want to see workers in Finglas, Ringsend, Laois-Offaly and Kilkenny being able to compete freely and fairly with the products they are currently producing into the centre of Europe and that is not about increasing structural grant funds. That whole area of cohesion, and what the Irish Government are doing about it, is not adequately referred to in the Taoiseach's speech. That should be identified in a White Paper setting out the Government's objectives. These are obstacles we have identified and these are things that make cohesion work with the legal provisions, to which he makes reference in his speech. They should be included in the Treaty. That Treaty should apply to regional authorities, for example, in Belgium, to the French regional departments and parts of northern Italy that are currently operating policies of industrial protectionism which are totally contrary to the spirit of the Treaty of Rome and to the spirit, if not the law, of the completion of the internal market.

Peripherality and cohesion are interconnected. If we seek, as the Taoiseach did at the outset of his speech when he talked about the enlargement of the Community, to devise a strategy for this country in terms of European political union that only considers itself with the Twelve it is in my view, and in the view of the Labour Party, a complete mistake. We should now assess who is going to be around the table in four or five years time. The Austrians can join in the morning; they are not seeking derogation in relation to anything and they have said that. I heard Franz Vranitzky, the Chancellor of the Austrian Republic, repeat that position. Likewise, the Swedes are not only prepared to join with little or no requirements for a transitional period but they are also prepared to make a direct contribution to some kind of cohesion fund beyond the obligations they would have normally.

If Sweden and Austria join — and both are now formal applicants for membership of the European Community— it would only be a matter of time until both Norway and Finland join. Nobody in Europe has a more peripheral problem, in terms of location, than the Finns. Having more than half of the country permanently inside the Artic Circle is about as peripheral as one can get in anybody's method of measurement. They are not a poor country but they will have problems of discrimination. Therefore, the Irish Government should say in a White Paper — in preparation for the referendum which I calculate must take place not later than the autumn of 1992, if the anticipated time table is to be adhered to — we expect Europe in ten years' time to consist of at least 16 member states, including Austria, Sweden, Finland and Norway and three more applicant states, close to, if not already within some kind of European union. I am referring to the three central European countries: Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary. We cannot anticipate what will happen in Yugoslavia. If Slovenia establishes its independence from the rest of Yugoslavia, whatever about Croatia, Slovenia would be a qualifying applicant member. We should recognise those countries as potential allies with whom we should establish links. Instead we do not seem to have addressed that problem or, if so, it has not been fully referred to in the Taoiseach's speech.

I wish to turn briefly to the question of economic and monetary union and the European Parliament. I will be brief on the question of economic and monetary union. As I said earlier the relative technicalities associated with it should be the subject of a separate debate and should be laid out in this Parliament in a more comprehensive way. The options are more limited and the implications are more difficult to analyse but I share the view expressed by the Taoiseach in his contribution where he challenged the validity of the economic assertion of the commentators within the Commission that the completion of the integrated market would have automatically beneficial economic effects on all regions of the European Community. There is little substance to sustain that conclusion. Indeed, the Cecchini report, despite all the efforts to so do, did not satisfy many commentators, certainly many political commentators, about the validity of that assumption. Therefore, the need for economic cohesion within the Community will have to be looked at very carefully in terms of economic and monetary union.

Finally, I turn to the European Parliament and, in a sense, this is where I started my contribution. The Government are frightened of giving powers to the European Parliament because they feel "an orphan" in that body. Notwithstanding the ability and the contribution of members of the Fianna Fáil Party who have been in the European Parliament they are effectively reduced to the level of independent by-standers not dissimilar to the role that Independents have in our own Parliament. Deputy De Rossa may, perhaps, wish to expand on this as he is a member of the European Parliament. The isolation of the Fianna Fáil Party in the European Parliament, and the cultural, political and intellectual impact that has had on the thinking of the Fianna Fáil Party over the last ten to 15 years, certainly since direct elections in 1979, has given the Fianna Fáil Party in Opposition and in Government a totally different perspective of the role of the Parliament and the potential beneficial impact parliamentary decisions could have on Ireland and Ireland's sovereignty. The Fine Gael Party and the Labour Party are members, with our relatively small numbers, of the two largest groups. The Progressive Democrats through MEP Pat Cox, have a role of some significance in the Liberal Group in the European Parliament.

The idea that influence in the European Parliament is proportionate to nationality is flatly contradicted by the impact and the effect our members have in the EPP group, the Christian Democrats Group, and Barry Desmond's contribution within the Socialist group, ably assisted by John Hume on the occasions when he is in the European Parliament and through his position as a Vice-President of the Socialist group. I make that observation because our party, and I suspect the same holds true for the Fine Gael Party from what Deputy Bruton said, are not frightened by the idea of the European Parliament getting extra powers. We are very frightened by allowing some kind of inter-governmental power to rest exclusively with the European Council because we do not think it is democratically accountable. We believe that the democratic deficit exists in that forum and it is compounded by the lack of suitable scrutiny in this House.

The position as set out in the Taoiseach's contribution, where he agrees that the Parliament should have the right to confirm the appointment of the Commission as a body, is about as radical a democratic or republican assertion as would do credit to the first Minister of Queen Elizabeth I. It gives the Parliament or the assembly little or no discretionary powers. My view is that the European Parliament should elect the President of the Commission. The Council should nominate the President who should be elected by the Parliament and not merely confirm the appointment. As a body there should be some mechanism not dissimilar to the US Senate of advising and consenting to the appointment of various members of the US Cabinet. The US Cabinet is far less powerful in many respects than the European Commission. Likewise, in relation to the process of making law, the European Parliament should be given far greater powers because in certain areas the process of, currently 12, soon to be 14 and probably 16, national parliaments making laws and that law mechanism going through the Council of Minister in the way it does is simply too tortuous to meet the needs of a modern, progressive European society of which Ireland is an integral part. The Government's position in that area is deficient.

Having, made those points of criticism, I compliment the Taoiseach and his Department's personnel for providing one of the most comprehensive and detailed statements to the House regarding the present situation. I hope that they will have an opportunity on other occasions to respond to the many points raised. As parliamentarians, we express a certain lack of satisfaction with this mechanism of debate, nevertheless it is a vast improvement in terms of content than we have had in the past. I hope my praise will encourage the Government to issue an interim paper for discussion — if not a White Paper, a Green Paper — setting out the agenda for Ireland and allow a debate to evolve within society to which we can respond. The Government may well have to make difficult compromises but the body politic, inside and outside the House, will understand the framework within which it will have to operate. They will already have analysed some of the options in a reasoned and informed manner and will be able to form a view whether a reasonable compromise has been arrived at. I hope that we do not get ourselves into the kind of situation which we did in the past in relation to the Single European Act.

The latest European Community Summit has been widely described as a "stocktaking exercise" and a "staging post" prior to major and, in many cases, final decisions on the future path of European Union. While such a meeting does not tend to produce banner headline news, "stocktaking" is in many ways the most telling assessment of the real worth and achievement of any company, business or Government.

In the context of European economic, monetary and political union, it is indeed now time to assess the Irish Government's efforts, if any, to secure adequate agreements with the EC to ensure development of our economy, further democratisation of EC structures and to promote development of a positive and non-militaristic foreign policy in the Community.

Ireland, as perhaps the most peripheral member state of the Community has the most to gain — or lose — from the manner of implementation of the Single Market and the putting in place of policies geared to bring Ireland's living standards closer to the Community average.

The Government have in recent months quite rightly emphasised that the policy of cohesion should be incorporated in moves towards the implementation of economic and monetary union. The alternative will be an accelerated drift of finance and investment to the economic centre of the Community, but the Government seem to have failed to get guarantees on this question.

With the final decisions on EMU to be made at the next IGC in Maastricht, we still do not even have a commitment about the scale of additional resources which will be provided from Community resources for economic development of peripheral regions such as Ireland.

EC Commissioner, Jacques Delors, has recently proposed that Structural Funding should be increased by about 50 per cent. Mr. Delors's proposals have a habit of becoming the accepted position, and if this proposal is implemented, it would involve an increase in Structural Funding from the £3 billion operating between 1989 to 1994 to around £4.5 billion, for presumably the remaining years of the decade.

Even if this figure be adjusted for inflation this would be a grossly inadequate increase, but I have yet to see a specific target figure which the Irish Government see as adequate to meet Ireland's requirements, or how such funds would be used.

In a recent editorial on this specific matter, The Irish Times stated “much more than the doubling of structural funds which accompanied the Single European Act will be required to compensate poorer parts of the Community for the centralising effects of Economic and Monetary Union”.

I am particularly concerned that the Taoiseach should be quoted in the media as being "very pleased" with the outcome of the Summit in the area of EMU. He has chosen to interpret some well-meaning phrases in the Summit document as if they were cast-iron commitments.

Statements such as economic and social cohesion being an "integral part in the development of the union" and that they should be included in a new Treaty in an "appropriate" manner are effectively meaningless when it comes to the question of cash on the table and full development of Ireland as a region of the Community. The removal of regional and social disparities has been set out as a key objective of the Community since the adoption of the Treaty of Rome, and has failed to be achieved. I have no reason to believe that the most recent platitudes in the Summit conclusions are any more than that.

There is little evidence that the current Structural Funds are adequate to the needs of the Irish economy and society or that they are being spent in a manner which allows for the development of jobs and living standards here. Any new funding must be subject to strenuous regular review, to ensure that it is having the planned effect.

It is adequate to simply allocate funding, large or small, for a five year period and then effectively forget about the issue until the next allocation. If significant discernible improvement is not being achieved in the Irish economy, then the EC must be required to adjust its policies and, if necessary, provide compensatory assistance, financial or otherwise, to ensure that Ireland does not become an economic backwater of the Community, rearing and educating our children to service tourists or simply to emigrate.

What is particularly worrying is the Government's low key approach to this entire matter. This is not some academic discussion of a hypothetical development at the end of the decade. The Single Market is already upon us. However, I note that the Taoiseach finally admits to having some doubts because he pointed out that our approach is also conditioned by scepticism about the correctness of some of the more sanguine conclusions about the effects of EMU on regional disparities which the Commission drew from its analysis. We have been making similar points to the Taoiseach for some considerable time and it is only now that he seems to be waking up to that reality.

The evidence is there that the general living standards in Ireland have failed to approach the EC average in the years since joining the Community. There is every indication that there will be an increased drift to the economic centre after EMU. Yet the Government seem reluctant to adopt the hard bargaining approach which is essential if we are to be taken seriously and win the type of Euro-policies which are vitally necessary to underdeveloped regions such as Ireland.

Again the comments of Commission President, Jacques Delors, offer an insight into the likely development of policies in the area of cohesion. In addressing Heads of State prior to the Summit he proposed to downgrade any commitment to cohesion by simply referring to the preamble of the new Treaty, and to defer discussion and decision on funding levels and arrangements until 1992.

All this carries the clear message that achievement of monetary — and political — union is the real, maybe the only goal, and achievement of economic and social cohesion, if it comes about will be accidental rather than an essential and obligatory part of that process.

The British Government, under Mr. John Major, continue to pursue an insistent approach in their questioning of federalism in the Community. The French Government's pressure for a new EC military and defence policy was highlighted by the provocative meeting of the Western European Union in Luxembourg on the eve of the Summit. These are examples of how pressure can be put on the EC to react to specific demands and to shift its policy.

On the issues of peripherality, regional development, cohesion and defence, the Government are remarkably quiet. The EC Council is agreeing positions and policies which allow the Community to dodge on cohesion. The EC budget stands at just over 1 per cent of Gross Community Product and the Structural Funds are only a quarter of that 1 per cent. We should be in no way apologetic about insisting on our demand for a realistic redistribution of wealth within the Community as part of the cost of creating a Single Market and political union.

This whole matter, of course, relates directly to the question of employment generation. Ireland's unemployment rate now stands at 19.4 per cent. Our emigration level, officially 136,000 between 1986 and 1990, has helped to disguise an even greater jobs crisis. In the conditions of the EC Single Market, Irish job creation policy cannot stand in isolation from European policy. The theory of the Common Market-EC is that we share our sovereignty and gain a say in European policy formation. But unless those policies lead to improved living standards for all Irish people then the EC is a sham. And unless the Government fight our corner in shaping these policies then the Government are a sham.

With the increasing economic integration of the member states of the Community it is unrealistic for any one member state, particularly a small state such as Ireland, to expect to solve economic and social problems or problems of unemployment and poverty through policies which depend solely on national conditions and decisions. It is for this reason that I have argued for some time now for the creation of a common industrial policy in the Community, which would be interventionist rather than depending on market forces to do what market forces clearly have no interest in doing, creating jobs.

Despite the establishment of the Regional Development Fund in 1975 the reality is that, after a small initial improvement in the 1970s, the gap between Ireland and the Community average is as wide now as when we joined the EEC.

To achieve cohesion, it is reported that the Irish economy would need to grow by almost 2 per cent a year above the Community average, and it would need to keep up this performance for the next 20 years. This did not happen in the past two decades of membership and it will not happen in the next 20 years either if we continue to pursue the policy of seeking and distributing a few ECUs here and there on bigger roads or tourist attractions. On this basis, even if the economic tide rises in the Ruhr, the best we can expect is that it will simply lift the number of emigrants leaving Ireland.

What is required is an interventionist common industrial policy which has the objective of bringing jobs to people in the regions rather than bringing people from the regions to jobs on the Rhine or other already overdeveloped parts of the Community. In effect, we need a policy geared to "leapfrogging" the peripheral regions over some of the phases of development to provide technology and export-orientated industry, research and innovation.

The time to set about this task is right now. The approach of Economic and Monetary Union is justification in itself. But there is an added reason. The Common Agricultural Policy as we have known it is on its last legs. It is a policy which has seen unbelievable millions of pounds squandered with virtually no sustainable development of our agriculture or agri-business sector, the virtual extinction of the family farm and the neglect of the rural environment.

It is ironic that an Irish Agriculture Commissioner, and one from the Fianna Fáil stable at that, has finally begun to grasp the CAP nettle. Instead of the Government and IFA fighting a rearguard action here to defer or delay reform of CAP, we should be to the forefront in seeking its replacement by an effective instrument which, while geared to maintaining the fabric of rural society, would set about the creation of jobs in agri-business and industry, with an emphasis on pollution-free and "clean" development.

The European Commission is clearly well on the way to a major reform and reduction in CAP spending; we must fight to ensure that any such savings are spent on ensuring development of Ireland and other peripheral regions.

There should, of course, continue to be a common agricultural policy. But it should be integrated with a new common industrial policy which would benefit food processing and efficient farming development as well as provide the basis for employment generation in our towns and cities. The Minister for Finance appears to have finally conceded this point. If I could quote from a speech to the Association of Irish Chartered Accountants in Great Britain on 1 July last, he said:

The greatest disappointment (of EC membership) has been our inability to generate new job opportunities fast enough to absorb the consistent growth in the labour force.

The consequence has been persistent high unemployment and emigration ... It is relevant to ask whether the Community should give a higher priority to employment and what new approaches it might adopt in pursuit of this.

He went on to say:

The Community's philosophy has always been to get the economy right and the jobs will follow but this approach must be questioned in the light of experience.

I could hardly put the argument for an interventionist common industrial policy or jobs policy better myself. However, in reply to a Dáil Question from The Workers' Party on 5 June, the Taoiseach stated that there was "no detailed discussion" on development of a common industrial policy at the IGC on 22 May last. When I pressed him on his support for incorporating a reference to industrial policy in any proposed new treaty or in amendments to the existing treaty, he stated first that he felt there would not be "widespread agreement to incorporating anything of that nature" and subsequently that the Government continues to rely on "economic and social cohesion as the principle on which the European Community must develop." But the reality is that policy instruments of cohesion — the social fund, regional fund, CAP and such like — do not deal specifically with the development of industry.

Where do the Government really stand, therefore, on this vital issue? The Minister for Finance and his departmental advisers clearly see the writing on the wall. But the Taoiseach, from the time of the Irish Presidency right up to last week's summit, seems content to carry on a rearguard action of defending CAP, indeed doffing his cap on virtually every other issue, leaving us indefinitely in a cap in hand position vis-á-vis the stronger EC member states.

I move now to the social side of the cohesion argument. This seems to be the truly abandoned side of the move towards 1992. The Social Charter was adopted a full 18 months ago by Ireland and the other member states with the exception of Margaret Thatcher's Britain, but it is indeed a struggle to see where it is being implemented with any commitment in this country. To my knowledge, only one aspect of the charter, the requirement making it compulsory for employers to give detailed working contracts to staff, has received the necessary unanimous approval from all 12 member states. Other vital issues, for example, relating to working conditions for pregnant women and negotiation and bargaining structures for employers and employees, have been shelved, deferred and in many cases bluntly blocked by member states. Reading the conclusions of the summit, I can see no evidence that this serious situation received any worthwhile attention from the Heads of State.

Mr. Jacques Delors, addressing Heads of State at the Luxembourg Summit, is reported as saying, because apparently he was speaking in private, that the 1992 process was progressing at full steam with the exception of the Social Charter. Indeed, one news media report quotes him as saying that the charter had "broken down". The charter is weak enough as it stands. It is essentially a charter for workers' rights rather than one for all its citizens and it ignores the problems facing young people, women, the unemployed, disabled, and minorities. It is in far too many cases aspirational rather than binding, and the programme of implementation of its existing provisions is woefully inadequate.

The Government's attitude to the Social Charter is quite despicable. The new provisions allowing free movement of labour will lead to even greater exploitation of the growing army of part time casual and temporary workers in the Community, and there appears to be an unwritten agreement that the Social Charter will gather increasing dust as a result of the stampede to allow market forces an unfettered role in the brave new Single Market.

This will have dire consequences in this country for the one million people who live in poverty, the 250,000 unemployed and the 100,000-strong army of part-time workers. And it will have the same consequences for the millions of people in the same categories throughout the European Community.

On the issue of future EC foreign policy and defence and security, the Government have clearly abandoned any attempts to influence developments. This is evident in a number of areas. There are no Irish proposals to the IGC on what role the concept of Irish neutrality will have in future EC security policy, what priorities any such foreign policy will have, apart from a generalised statement of "defence of EC interests", how factors such as NATO membership by the other member states will influence development of foreign policy and no opposition to a role for the Western European Union, despite the fact that the Western European Union is specifically committed to a nuclear deterrent. These questions apparently hold no particular or urgent interest for the Government. We are simply told that there will be no decisions on defence for the foreseeable future and, therefore, they have nothing to say.

"Never tackle today what you can put off until tomorrow" is clearly the Government's policy. The trouble is that so many issues are being put on the Government's long finger that it will be too late for Ireland to exert any influence on the eventual direction and decisions with regard to EC foreign policy by the time decisions are made, because informal arrangements will already be in place by then.

References yet again in the Summit document to Irish neutrality in the context of the "traditional position" of some member states probably means that other states have not quite figured out how they wish to deal with the neutrality issues. But if one reads the report on the meeting of the Western European Union held, arrogantly, in Luxembourg on the eve of the EC Summit, there is no doubt on where they see their own future military role and that of the EC.

The communique of the Western European Union Council of Ministers meeting says that a European security and defence identity is emerging within the Twelve and the Western European Union. It adds that Western European Union should "be fully part of the process of European integration" and further on says that "the Western European Union should be developed in this phase of the European process as its defence component." Whatever the Taoiseach may say about decisions not being made by the European Council or, indeed, the European Community, decisions are being made elsewhere which are shaping the defence of the European Community.

Third they assert that "development of a genuine European security policy and defence identity will be reflected in the strengthening of the European pillar within the Atlantic Alliance." Nothing could be clearer.

I do not think they could have been any more specific. The intention is that the EC will develop a security policy geared to maintaining and taking forward the principles which have operated in NATO for the past 40 years, principles which assert domination and aggression, maintenance of vast nuclear arsenals and the threat to use them. Those principles led to the launching of the needless war in the Gulf, with still untold levels of destruction and civilian casualties and massive destruction of the environment in the region while doing nothing to solve the overall problems of the region.

So far, the most significant result of the war for the victors will probably be the huge deals to resupply states in the region with new and replacement weaponry and the huge contracts for reconstruction of infrastructure destroyed in the war.

The Irish Government are, I believe deliberately, refusing to state a position or take an active part on where European security policy should lead. When the EC recently discussed suspension of all arms sales to Yugoslavia, the Irish Government had no visible involvement. At the outbreak of strife in Yugoslavia a fortnight ago, an offical Slovenian representative, interviewed on RTE radio, talked of Ireland's position as a neutral country and how he felt this could be of particular importance in helping in the mediation process there. It is something the Irish Government clearly do not appreciate.

Ireland had run away from that challenge also. Indeed, the Government and Taoiseach are running away from any utterance or initiative which might draw attention to our neutrality. It is indeed a sad decline in the political morality of Fianna Fáil, from the days when Frank Aiken pressed the United Nations to confront the issue of Chinese membership of that organisation, to the current policies of allowing war planes on their way to a "turkey shoot" in the Gulf free access to Irish refueling facilities and air space, and the self-censorship by this Government of any issues which would promote an anti-militarist policy within the EC.

I want to make it crystal clear that I am not against development of a positive EC foreign and security policy. What I am advocating is that Ireland should right now take the initiatives necessary to ensure that future policies in this area advance the principles of a positive neutrality, and that they bring these proposals right to the heart of the EC. The policies of militarism must be challenged and rejected, not just among neutral states, but in those countries currently in NATO and the Western European Union.

The Community is due for enlargement. A longstanding application from Austria continues to gather dust. Sweden also wishes to become a member. Can the Taoiseach state what, if any, approaches or discussions have been held with the Governments in these countries on future security trends and on what role neutral states can have in shaping these developments?

Ireland must play an active role in international affairs not one of isolation or passive alignment with the most powerful alliances. Our neutrality must be given a truly positive character to enable us to play a meaningful role in international fora such as the UN, CSCE, and increasingly the European Community through EPC.

We must insist that the balance of power in such fora is weighted in favour of the dispossessed of the world, to replace the now redundant "cold war" balance of interests. This will require radical changes in how the UN Security Council reaches its decisions, and monitors actions carried out in its name. It means that the General Assembly of the United Nations must have a more clearly defined and effective role in Security Council decisions, and also expansion of Security Council membership. The CSCE should also be developed as a panEuropean forum for collective security under the UN. These things are not brought to bear in any way. We simply seem to sit in a corner and pretend these matters are not of importance or are not being discussed.

Similarly, while paying lip-service to the CSCE the Government continue to ignore the role which the Conference on Security and Co-operation in Europe can play in building confidence among European states in a non-militaristic way. At the recent meeting of the CSCE in Prague, Czechoslovakian President, Vaclav Havel, suggested a "universal embargo" on arms exports to the whole of Yugoslavia. He also warned that "nobody expects that all the accumulated problems can be resolved in Yugoslavia without a complex and probably lengthy process taking place."

This is a formula which could be applied, and, unfortunately, may have to be applied in future to other states and regions, in central and eastern Europe and in other parts of the world. Why is Ireland failing to promote such policies within the EC?

Indeed there should be a similar effort to promote the ideals of positive neutrality at United Nations level. The Cold War is over, but it is not a case of "over and out". The forces which lived off the Cold War — the military strategists, the military-industrial complex and the economic strategists who see domination by the "north" of the "south" best being maintained in the shadow of the gun— all these forces are busily searching for new enemies so that a revamped strategy can be used to justify and maintain the horrific expenditure on arms production. Ireland sits on its hands, pretending it is waiting for real debate to start in five years time. Ireland effectively has been neutralised on this issue by its refusal to develop a new definition of neutrality to omit the new volume of forces in the world.

It must be recognised that the Cold War romantics are not only to be found in the west. There are increasingly clear indications that elements in the Soviet Union would welcome a return to the old certainties of the Cold War. There is an obligation on us in Ireland, and people everywhere, therefore, to clearly differentiate between those who want peace and work for it and those who want to continue to enslave the human race under the threat of war and nuclear annihilation which is what we would be doing if we went along with the current proposals to incorporate the Western European Union within the defence structure of the European Community or to link that with NATO in its present form. The people of this country should be aware that parties in this House who propose that role are proposing precisely that we go down the road of developing a European Community nuclear capacity. The Minister can shake his head all he likes but that is what is on the cards. That is what NATO and the Western European Union are all about.

We are talking about the Community.

Yes, I am talking about the plans of the member states of the Community who are not neutral, who are already members of the Western European Union and NATO, who are already creating the shape of the future defence of the European Community. It is already taking shape.

We will have no input unless we get involved.

Proinsias de Rossa

Exactly. That is what I am saying, that we should be in there fighting our corner and not standing back and pretending that it is not going on. Seen in this light, the Government U-turn on plans for a foreign affairs committee is disgraceful.

Where do the Progressive Democrats stand on this issue of democratic accountability? The United States Congress has such a committee, the British Parliament and indeed every other European Community state has such a committee. What are the Government afraid of? They are apparently unable to stand over their own positions on international issues. They are unable to stand over why no clear position has been outlined to the Inter-governmental Conference on foreign policy issues or on why they have abdicated on the issue of promoting positive neutrality at EC level or on how they intend to counter the increasing, and what may shortly become an inevitable, drift towards an EC foreign policy which is at odds with even our so-called traditional neutrality, never mind being at odds with what might be developed as a more positive and modern approach to neutrality.

The Taoiseach may say and has said that the issue is not for immediate decision that the matter will not come up for decision until the mid or late 1990s. I would remind the Taoiseach of the clear consequences among the Western European Union states evident in the quotes I have cited earlier from their meeting on the eve of the summit. What will our position be if the issues of security, defence, and cohesion become linked? What if problems such as those now threatening to tear Yugoslavia apart force the pace of discussion on security and defence?

What of the Oireachtas Committee on Secondary Legislation? When will they be given a brief and adequate resources to examine and tackle the question of cohesion policy in the context of EMU. We are talking about a range of issues affecting the vital interests of this State, which are not being effectively discussed in this Parliament. A series of statements as we are having here today, is probably the most meaningless way of dealing with them. What has happened to the promise that the Minister, Deputy Collins, made to me some months ago in this House that he would organise weekly debates on foreign affairs? We have not heard of it since. The Minister even promised that the Dáil would sit every Friday if necessary for weekly debates.

While the Government would indeed have to face awkward questions in such properly constituted committees, the benefits which would accrue from their establishment would far outweigh any embarrassement factor for Fianna Fáil or the Progressive Democrats, over their ineffectiveness at the European negotiating table. Promotion of a more thorough public debate on the alternative strategies which might be applied, on the economy, on the reform of CAP, on the development of a common industrial policy, on a pro-active approach to positive neutrality, to disarmament, the Middle East, ODA, and other issues, would if anything strengthen the Government's hand in any future negotiations with our EC partner states.

We cannot talk of moves to a Single Europe without ensuring that greater democracy is brought to European institutions. At present most decisions are made behind closed doors by the virtually unaccountable Council of Ministers. Despite the argument made that because the Ministers on the Council are elected to the various parliaments they are therefore accountable, the fact is that the proposals they bring to Council meetings are never debated in this House before they are brought forward and agreed, or the decisions that the Government propose to agree to are never brought forward in this House to be agreed to or to be even debated. We end up simply responding to statements made by the Taoiseach or the Minister for Foreign Affairs about positions that have already been agreed. That is not democracy.

There is a virtually unaccountable Council of Ministers and Commission, while the democratically elected parliament in Europe is severely restricted in its powers. This position must be remedied. There is no willingness on the part of Irish Governments to support greater powers for the European Parliament such as moves towards co-decision with the Commission or Council or a greater say in the appointment of the Commission, other than the blanket approval or disapproval of the Commission as a whole. But the situation becomes even more contradictory. While the Government said they support the role of the Commission as the best common denominator for the 12 member states, they still are unwilling to allow the Commission to take on additional real responsibilities. For instance, the issue of foreign policy is being retained under the control of national governments, meeting in council with decisions being decided on at summit level. In this regard the Government are pursuing a policy close to that of the Thatcher era in Britain. Although in theory having a democratic mandate, the Council is probably the least democratic of the EC's institutions.

We should instead pursue a policy of opening up the Community to its citizens. This should be done firstly by steadily increasing the powers of the European Parliament. These powers should be adequate to allow it effectively oversee the executive institutions and should share legislative responsibility with the bodies representing member states, with a structured accountability for reporting back by member states to their own respective parliaments.

Secondly there is need for a closer and structured relationship between the national and European parliaments which would include frequent consultative meetings between representatives of the parliaments of the 12 member states and the EP, which would also incorporate report-back procedures. A regular forum such as that held in the Conference of European Parliaments in Rome last year, and provision for attendance by committee members from national and European Parliaments at each other's meetings on a reciprocal basis would lead to at least a greater understanding about what is going on at European and national level.

However, it must not stop there. There must also be a policy of developing powers to regional and local level. Decision making should be exercised at a European level only where it can be done more effectively at this level. There must be an active policy of involving environmental, community and other non-governmental organisations at all levels in decisions. It is particularly important that representatives other than politicians and bureaucrats should have the opportunity to contribute to and to scrutinise the activities and policies of the Community in their area of interest.

This Government are still reluctant to involve this House in debating their proposals and policies at EC level and international affairs generally. That is an anti-democratic stance and must be resisted by this House because we have a right to be informed and to be involved in the decision-making process. We must resist because if is only in this way that the many complex issues facing this country will become questions of public debate. At the moment there is virtually no debate and every opinion poll done in recent times indicates that people have not got enough information to make up their minds on the issues that will face them in a referendum in the not too distant future. We must also resist this approach to EC decision making and Government involvement in EC decision making, because there is no other way in which the crisis in jobs here can be fully brought home to Government and people alike and dealt with. If there was a sufficient level of debate on these issues they would become matters of public debate and would become matters of concern for Government when they go into their secret meetings at Council level, and they would have a strengthened hand in arguing for policies which would lead to job creation and which would ensure that this country plays a real role as a partner in the development of the European Community.

This important debate is taking place at a time when the European Council in Brussels have clearly agreed that the final decisions on political union and economic and monetary union will be taken at the Maastricht meeting in December. This debate affords this House the opportunity of debating certain key issues which will be incorporated in the final decisions made at the Maastricht meeting.

It is important to point out — this is germane to what Deputy De Rossa said — that the conclusions reached in Luxembourg, which repeated the conclusions reached in Rome in December, emphasised the need for a distinction to be drawn between security and defence. Therefore, what we are really talking about in terms of our input into these matters between now and the finalisation of the decisions is the question of a common foreign and security policy. We are not talking about a defence policy. There is a clear distinction between the two policies.

We have always been strong supporters of a comprehensive co-operative approach towards security matters. We emphasised this approach within the League of Nations during the thirties. Indeed, the League of Nations foundered in the mid-thirties because they did not have a co-ordinated security policy to deal with Italy's aggression against Abyssinia. When the United Nations were set up they were given a clear mandate to intervene in such cases, as they did when Kuwait was annexed by Iraq. Similarly, since the Helsinski agreement of 1975 we have adopted a positive role of neutrality within the frame work of security co-operation in Europe, the CSCE process. I am glad to be able to say that the CSCE process is now coming into its own and is regarded as the real process for security co-operation in Europe. This can be seen from what has happened in recent times in Europe. I would take issue with the remarks made by Deputy De Rossa in this regard. The barrier between East and West Europe, between NATO and the Warsaw Pact countries, is now disappearing. There is a new emphasis on the CSCE process and what a comprehensive security policy can mean for the 36 nations involved in this CSCE. A comprehensive security arrangement needs to be put in place from the Atlantic to the Urals now that the redundant mechanisms of NATO, the Warsaw Pact and the Western European Union are patently superfluous to the requirements of the new Europe now emerging.

We need to have a common foreign and security policy in the new Europe now emerging which will embody the elements on which we have always laid emphasis, for example, CSCE matters, peacekeeping operations whether within the United Nations or CSCE, economic and technological co-operation in the armaments field, co-ordination of armaments and export policies, non-proliferation, the control and reduction of armaments on a phased basis with accompanying competence measures within the European framework and the tightening of security co-operation on the European continent within the framework of the CSCE. That is the sort of combined common European foreign and security policy which Ireland can adhere to and support.

We are moving towards the adoption of a common European foreign policy. We saw evidence of this in recent days when the CSCE group of countries mandated the European Community to take action in regard to the conflict in Yugoslavia. The troika from the European Community, sponsored by the CSCE, intervened to try to restore peace in Yugoslavia. The real problem facing Europe today is the co-ordination of policy in relation to conflicts such as that which arose in Yugoslavia, a federal state, where people are seeking the right to self-determination. A similar conflict may break out in Czechoslovakia while conflicts have already broken out in the Baltic and southern states in the Soviet Union and other areas of the Balkans. All these conflicts which are taking place on the doorstep of Europe can only be resolved by a vigorous European Community with a common foreign and security policy.

Europe has to resolve these problems via the European Community which represents strength and authority. With the collapse of the Marxist system in Central and Eastern Europe, the European Community needs to have a common foreign and security policy which is devisive and effective. As I said there is a need for a common policy in regard to such issues as peacekeeping operations, armaments reduction, etc. At present Minister's meet at intergovernmental conferences to decide, on an ad hoc basis, foreign policy. This system can be extended by the adoption of a common foreign and security policy. Added to this there could also be co-operation between member states in regard to home affairs and judicial matters. These matters were discussed at the recent summit in Luxembourg. Discussions also took place on matters such as access, visa and asylum arrangements, emigration, drug trafficking, customs and judicial co-operation, action against the terrorist and organised crime, etc. The introduction of the concept of common citizenship within the European Community is a further example of progress of the kind I have mentioned in the overall context of a common foreign and security policy and judicial co-operation.

Reference has already been made to the importance of economic and social cohesion. This principle which is written into the Treaty of Rome must be given a far more positive dimension. While steps have already been taken in this regard at the meetings in Rome and Luxembourg we must ensure that it is included on a permanent basis in the concept of monetary union.

We do not want to have to rely on Structural Funds being transferred on an ad hoc basis. This is good in its own way and the funds should be massively increased but not alone should economic and social cohesion extend to the Structural Funds but also right across the board. I instance the Common Agricultural Policy under which there is a transfer of resources. There is also a need for cohesion, given our peripheral location, in the area of transport policy. The type of cohesion that I would envisage is the type of cohesion which already exists in many integrated states.

Tá an t-am istigh, a Theachta.

With your permission, a Leas-Cheann Comhairle, let me make one final point on the need for cohesion and the need to extend it to all Community policies. We have got to get away from a position where resources are transferred on an ad hoc basis to some mechanism which would allow financial equalisation which is already the position in many integrated states where resources are transferred from one part of the state to another. For example, this is the position in Italy where resources are transferred from northern Italy to southern Italy. Such a mechanism in an integrated Europe would allow automatic financial equalisation with support being given from all Community policies to areas on the periphery who are at a disadvantage. This applies to other countries within the Community as well as Ireland. We should adopt such a mechanism which would allow such a transfer of resources on top of a vastly improved allocation of Structural Funds in moving towards economic and social cohesion within the framework of economic and monetary union.

In many ways I am sorry that Deputy Lenihan did not have the time to expand on his views on cohesion. I agree with him. An indication of the pressures we are working under, in terms of the limitations on this debate — we cannot even call it a debate — on European affairs is that Deputy Lenihan did not have time to expand on his sensible views which would probably be shared by a vast majority of the Members of this House. The three and a half hours allocated for the taking of statements on the European Council held in Luxembourg would be more than adequate if the statements were to refer only to what was, in the internal EC context, a stocktaking exercise. However given that broader issues are to be dealt with, in particular the Yugoslavian crisis, the future of Europe and foreign affairs matters generally, the amount of time allocated is inadequate. I agree with the point made by Deputy Bruton which was reechoed by Deputy De Rossa that we are not participating in a debate at all but merely making statements. I was surprised when Deputy De Rossa reminded the House of the commitment made by the Minister for Foreign Affairs to have a debate in the House every week but I am not surprised that we have not had such a debate.

With regard to the European Council meeting itself, it is very clear that nothing of consequence occurred either in relation to economic and monetary union or to European political union. The Heads of State did not need to have a formal meeting to arrive at a common intention to reach an agreement at the Maastricht European Council meeting to be held next December as everybody knows that this was already the intention. It is doubtful if the meeting in Luxembourg contributed anything concrete towards the attainment of that objective. The only internal EC point of news interest discussed by the European Council concerned the setting up of a EURO-POL police force to counter organised crime and drug traffickers who may try to take advantage of the post-1991 single market. Ireland should strongly support the establishment of such a force which would also have a major role in tackling terrorism.

As happened at the last European Council meeting an international crisis totally overshadowed the Summit meeting. On the last occasion it was the problem of the Kurds and on this occasion it was the Yugoslavian crisis. The coincidence of the eruption of the crisis and of the European Council meeting raises some very interesting questions. What, for instance, would have been the reaction of the European Community if EC leaders were not due to meet that weekend? This gives rise to further questions as to whether the European Community does have proper procedures to anticipate trouble in international affairs. In my view it does not. The consequence is that very often the EC response is unsure and in this instance the initial EC response seemed to parrot the line taken by the US Secretary of State, Mr. James Baker. The consequence of the insistence on supporting and recognising only the federated state of Yugoslavia has been seen by many as being the basis for many of the actions of the federal army to which people have objected and for their attitude of refusing to recognise political control. It is my view there was a disastrous ham-fisted approach initially on the part of the European Community which directly contributed to the consequences as outlined, in particular the actions of the federal army. Such a response had all the hallmarks of being hasty and ad hoc. One of the more serious questions which must be addressed in the future is whether this had to be so.

That brings me to the question of what we have in the European Community at present. We have an industrial giant but a political pigmy. There is a need for a far more detailed analysis of many of the problems in international affairs with a careful examination of the different options at European Community level in advance of the development of crises. One possible way of doing this would be to establish a European institute on foreign affairs which would be supported by all members states. Another possibility would be to establish a secretariat within the European Commission for this purpose but I accept that this may have repercussions in maintaining the delicate balance of powers as between the Commission and the Council. One way or the other some such institute or secretariat needs to be established at European level so that a detailed examination and consideration of different options can take place and common action agreed prior to the eruption of crises. Such a common foreign policy approach might help to prevent the eruption of such crises.

I urge that Ireland press for such an approach. I accept that we would not have much credibility at present in making such a proposal. It is very clear that the attitude of the Government on foreign affairs generally and particularly on the European Community is very insular, parochial and patriarchial. The result is that we have no debate, discussion or exchange of views of any consequence on European or international affairs. Let me make it clear that I do not see the occasional setpiece statements following meetings of the European Council as being any substitute for a real debate. I would remind the Government that the debate on the European Council in the House of Commons took place before the meeting and not after it. I would also remind the Government that we are not participating in a debate at all today, as Deputy De Rossa mentioned, but merely making statements and that there is no motion to debate. This is a further indication of the irrelevance of the Dáil as highlighted last week in relation to the refusal of the Government to allow debate on individual Estimates.

Essentially, these 19th century attitudes and procedures will have to be changed. This highlights again the need for a foreign affairs committee. When I was Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs in the early eighties I proposed and succeeded in having a committee on development co-operation established. At least elected Members were able to have a detailed debate on overseas aid. This contributed to all party support for my efforts to increase the aid allocation from 0.18 per cent to 0.26 per cent of GNP. This progress has been disastrously set back since 1987. Is it a coincidence that we have had no Dáil foreign affairs committee in the meantime? At that time my colleague, Deputy John Bruton, who was then Minister for Finance and now Leader of Fine Gael, seriously proposed the establishment of a committee on foreign affairs in place of the committee on development co-operation. It is my view that we need such a committee on foreign affairs who will also cover overseas aid. By way of an aside. I should say that the lack of informed parliamentary debate is a major contributory factor to the lack of development of our country as a nation. We have no transparency on expenditure decisions and no opportunity to assess whether we get value for money or the impact on employment of various Government decisions.

To return to the European Council and the position in Europe we have to know where we are going. It is quite outrageous that we have no White Paper or clear vision as to what our objectives are in the European Community. Instead we have opaque statements which are no substitute for clearly defined foreign policy decisions.

In the course of his speech the Taoiseach made a beautiful statement when he referred to the application of Austria and Sweden for EC membership, that "in each case, it is notable that an important consideration has been that neutrality has a different specific weight in the new Europe that I have been describing." What in the name of goodness the Taoiseach meant by that I do not know and I suppose I will never find out. Even now there is an opportunity for the Government to produce a White Paper on European union and I remind the Government that we will have to have a referendum. Our people should not be treated like sheep, are at least entitled to know what the Government's objectives are and how far they have been successful in achieving them. We need a clear statement from the Government on their position on the current crisis in Yugoslavia and whether we as a small country stand for the freedom of small nations. This is essential when one considers the position of Slovenia and Croatia.

Historically, and otherwise, this country should be to the forefront in insisting on the principle of the right to self-determination. At the same time we should be aware of the difficulties in relation to minorities and we should be insisting on the establishment through the Council of Europe of a charter of rights for minorities, including political rights. Such rights should provide for the full participation of such minorities in the political process and this would be of relevance in relation to Croatia where there is a significant Serbian minority. These rights should be capable of being legally enforced in the European Court of Human Rights.

Fears have been expressed about the break up and disintegration of the federated states that exist. In my opinion this is inevitable in situations where these federated states did not come into existence by democratic means. I do not believe the Baltic States will remain part of the Soviet Union because they were never given the opportunity of saying yea or nay at the time of the forcible annexation in 1940. The Balkan States would not have held together if it had not been for the repressive Communist regime under Tito. It is very much an imperialist approach on the part of the European Community to demand that these federated states stay together and to refuse to recognise the principle of self-determination. We should bear in mind that the European Community, which I wish to see develop as a political union by consensus, was formed originally principally to stop the wars between France and Germany. It would have been unthinkable 45 years ago to have a federation between France and Germany as a way of stopping wars but it would have been even worse to force such a federation. Now, after the experience of working together in peace and harmony over so many years, the question of a possible federated states of Europe is being openly discussed and that is as it should be. This has developed by consensus and through the democratic process.

I have merely touched on some of the profound issues of foreign policy which arise either within the EC or outside. I do not accept for one moment that this format gives rise to an opportunity for genuine debate on the many complex issues. This reinforces the view that there is need for a clear analysis of foreign policy at both national and EC level. There is also need for a structured debate on a regular basis. I do not believe it is possible to do this under the outdated procedures of the Dáil. This reinforces the need for a committee on foreign affairs which should operate during the recess, and that is an important aspect of having a committee. Perhaps the greatest failure of the Government in the area of foreign affairs is their absolute refusal to establish such a committee.

On a point of information, is the Minister replying to the debate or is he simply taking a ten minute slot?

He is taking the usual ten minutes.

The debate this evening has allowed us to cover a series of issues both as regards our general European policy and the work of the two Inter-governmental Conferences. The Government's wish is to ensure that the House has an opportunity not only to comment on the outcome of the European Council meeting in Luxembourg but to review the position at this the half way stage of the conferences. The fact that the Government have taken the unprecedented step of placing the Luxembourg Presidency's work in progress report in the Library for the information of Deputies underlines the importance the Government attach to this debate.

In his opening statement the Taoiseach outlined in detail the Government's over-all position on political union and on economic and monetary union. There can be no doubt as to Ireland's commitment to the success of the conferences; the input of further movements towards European union accelerated during our Presidency last year and Ireland's commitment has remained firm since then. The Taoiseach has indicated the overall Irish position on the main issues of the conferences at the five formal meetings of the political union conferences at ministerial level and at a number of informal meetings which have also considered the matter of Ireland's position on these issues.

The conferences have still nearly six months to run and the final lines of their results cannot be fully discerned. However, I am satisfied that the Irish position, which has been clearly presented on all the issues involved, is fully understood by our partners and I am sure that in the course of the intensive negotiations which still lie ahead we will be able to achieve our objectives.

The negotiations are complex and that is understandable. The Community is a unique organisation; it is unique among international bodies in its decision-making structure, in its scope and in its institutional make up. Its policy structure follows a coherent path designed to give reasonable and balanced treatment to the interests of all the member states. The European Community Treaty applies directly and equally in all member states and this unity of approach is an essential characteristic of the Community system. The other special features of the Community are that it is much more than an intergovernmental organisation. Its legislative and legal system, and its institutions, operate in exactly the same fashion throughout the Community. Again, this reflects the unity of the Community in its management of the interests of its member states and of its citizens.

A particular feature of the Community system is the direct responsibility it takes for various policy areas, these include agriculture, international trade, monitoring of state aids and observance of the principles of economic and social cohesion. Built into the administration of these policies and principles is a concrete recognition that the needs of regions on the periphery of the Community, such as Ireland, are the needs of the Community as a whole and they ought to be approached in a united way. References to common policies and common actions are widespread in the Treaty and this reflects the unity of approach and treatment which is fundamental to the Community. It is important, therefore, as far as Ireland is concerned to ensure that the unique nature of the Community is preserved and, where necessary, reinforced in the negotiations.

We have benefited in a very real sense from the unique nature of the Community and, because of its unique nature, our concerns have been more readily recognised than might have otherwise been the case. It might have been necessary to take into account the very specific and sensitive nature of a number of areas and this is recognised in the three pillars of the Luxembourg Presidency's draft. Foreign and security policy and interior issues are not yet amenable to the classic Community approach and this is generally recognised. In their case specific provision will need to be made to recognise the primarily intergovernmental nature of co-operation at this stage of the Community's evolution.

Apart from the intergovernmental conferences on political union and economic and monetary union, the Luxembourg European Council devoted considerable attention to other issues. The Taoiseach referred to Yugoslavia and, in view of Deputy O'Keeffe's remarks, it might be opportune to say some more on this issue. The Twelve are actively engaged in efforts to find a peaceful solution to the problems in Yugoslavia. The Minister for Foreign Affairs is to travel to The Hague this evening for a meeting with the European Foreign Ministers of the Twelve who will again take important decisions aimed at contributing to a settlement of the problems there. As the Taoiseach informed the House on 28 June, the European Council sent a Troika of Foreign Ministers to Yugoslavia and they secured an agreement from the parties on a three point package, the ceasefire and withdrawal to barracks of the armed forces; a three months moratorium on the implementation of the declaration of independence and the appointment of Stipe Mesic as president of the Presidential College. Since, at first, this agreement was not observed the Troika returned to Yugoslavia on 30 June and obtained a renewed commitment to the terms already agreed. Initially the arranged ceasefires broke down but that which took place on the evening of 3 July appears to be holding reasonably well, despite the fact that there have been a number of incidents.

Foreign Ministers of the Twelve met in emergency session on 5 July and suspended the operation of the second and third financial protocols between Yugoslavial and the Community. They also agreed to impose an embargo on the sale of arms and military equipment to Yugoslavia. In addition they issued a declaration in which they called for a dialogue without pre-conditions between all parties on the future of Yugoslavia which should be based on the principles enshrined in the Helsinki Final Act and the Paris Charter for a New Europe, in particular, respect for human rights, including rights of minorities and the right of people to self-determination in conformity with the Charter of the United Nations and the relevant norms of international law, including those relating to territorial integrity of states.

The Yugoslavia parties reaffirmed their commitments to the points of the ceasefire agreed on 30 June, with Twelve mediation. As called for by the Twelve, the parties in Yugoslavia agreed that talks would start by 1 August on all aspects of Yugoslavia's future without pre-conditions and on the basis of the CSCE principles.

Agreement was also reached on sending a Community mission to help stabilise the ceasefire and to monitor the implementation of the other elements agreed. The despatch of this monitoring mission——

Acting Chairman

Tá dhá nóiméad fágtha agat.

Cheap mé go raibh 15 nóiméad agam. It is important to finalise this matter of Yugoslavia which has been raised by a number of speakers.

Acting Chairman

A little latitude will be given.

Agreement was also reached in sending a Community commission to help stablise the ceasefire and to monitor the implementation of the other elements agreed. The despatch of this monitoring mission had already been endorsed by all 35 participating states at the CSCE meeting in Prague on 3 and 4 July. While a number of other countries have indicated their wish to participate, it is intended that initially at least the mission will be confined to the Twelve.

The Government fully support the efforts of the Twelve to contribute in a concrete way to resolving a difficult and volatile situation which presents a threat to the peace and stability of that part of our Continent and must be of concern to all European states. We give full backing to the principles of the monitoring mission.

The European Council in Luxembourg highlights the number of issues and policies which remain central to discussion on the future development of the European Community.

On a point of order, I understand the Minister had made the concluding speech.

Acting Chairman

No, it was not the concluding speech and was never meant to be. I clarified that by telling the Minister he would have ten minutes.

I raised a point of order before the Minister spoke to find out if he was to make a concluding statement or a ten minute contribution. I was told by the Chair that he would fill a tenminute slot.

Acting Chairman

That is right.

I would make the point that it was intended to be the concluding speech but I have no objection to Deputy Barry or anybody else making a contribution.

It is out of the Minister's hands.

Acting Chairman

It is provided that a member of the Government shall be called on not later than 8.15 p.m. to make a statement in a reply not exceeding 15 minutes. As there was an Opposition spokesperson here to contribute it was not intended at any time that the Minister's speech should be the concluding one.

I have no objection.

Acting Chairman

Deputy Peter Barry is in possession.

The Minister cannot say he has no objection. He cannot patronise us in that way. The order is that this debate shall continue until 15 minutes before the concluding time, at which time a Minister must be called. Therefore I will speak whether the Minister likes it or not.

On a point of order, I want to give notice of my intention to speak in this debate and I will not accept any generosity from the Minister of State who says he has no objection to anybody else speaking.

Acting Chairman

There is no need to elaborate. There were speakers on the Opposition side when the Minister for Defence rose to speak.

I will give Deputy Dukes generosity if nobody else on his side of the House will.

We have had enough of the jackboot.

Acting Chairman

Deputy Barry's allotted time commences now.

The European Council in Luxembourg highlights the number of issues and policies that remain central to the discussions on the future development of the European Community. The range and scope of the issues is very broad indeed. There are a number of fundamental questions that must be addressed: Where will the locus of decision-making be in a more unified European Community? What exactly do the Government understand by European Monetary Union? What will be the role and authority of the European Parliament? What shape will the governmental element take? What is meant by the social dimension and to what extent is the Community intending to influence this element? What are the implications for Ireland of a common foreign and security policy? What are the costs of European Monetary Union?

The Government seem unperturbed by these questions and have not answered them. In the recent exchange in this House on the establishment of the Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs, the Taoiseach asked me what had changed since Fine Gael left government in 1987. It seems that the Taoiseach has missed some of the most dramatic changes in recent history. Indeed his judgment with regard to other developments has been faulty. When I questioned him last year about the possible impact of German unification on the European Community and on Ireland, he assured me, in the words of his former deputy leader, that there was "no problem". We can now see how wrong he was and based on this precedent I believe that his Government are just as wrong about the future of the European Community — an area to which they have given so little serious consideration. The agenda of international affairs is more urgent and complex. The break up of the Eastern Bloc, the Gulf crisis, the changing situation in South Africa and in Yugoslavia are events of enormous importance and significance. At the same time the European Community is undergoing rapid and profound change.

We are, at present, in the throes of discussions on the future shape of the European Community. What is being mooted is the biggest transfer of power and decision-making capacity to the Community institutions, the result of which will mean that economic and political decisions will be increasingly made on a supranational rather than a national basis. The impact of this process will be more dramatic than the impact of our original decision to join the European Community. Yet the Government have given no real indication of how they envisage this transfer of power or what kind of European Community they wish to see.

The fact is that the Government have not prepared the Irish economy or the Irish people for the impact of greater European unity following the completion of the internal market in 1992. Their whole approach to the European Community has been to react to other people's agenda rather than actively try to set an agenda that encapsulated the priorities and interests of society.

One of the areas of potential difficulty, as well as potential opportunity, is the question of European monetary union. It seems extraordinary, at a time when member states are contemplating the transfer of a large part of economic and political decision-making capacity to the European institutions, that the Government have not produced a White Paper or developed a national policy on the area.

Recent reports have suggested that Ireland has a poor record in the area of implementing EC directives in the runup to 1992. It is also worrying to note that the Government are unclear of the impact that 1992 will have on the Irish economy. The Minister for Finance stated in January that it is the Government's aim to bring indirect tax rates into line with our EC neighbours. However, the Governor of the Central Bank of Ireland stated recently that the need for convergence of tax rates within the Community could pose very severe problems for the Irish public finances. Whom are we to believe?

EMU has the potential to involve costs for Ireland as a result of our location on the periphery of Europe. It could increase the differences between lesser developed regions and richer regions. The Government have laid great emphasis on the Structural Funds as a mechanism for ensuring cohesion. The reality is that the funds alone are not sufficient. The Community seems to have recognised this but it is not clear how economic and social cohesion will be achieved. The recent meeting of the four smaller EC member states, constituting themselves as a pressure group, is counterproductive. This kind of action, mainly organised for domestic consumption, promotes the psychology of a two-tier Europe. The debate and discussion on economic cohesion must take place at the level of the Twelve and the Irish position should have been more vigorously pursued there long before now. Those in favour of EMU would suggest an increase in the Community budget. At present the transfers to member states are only about 1 per cent of Community GNP. This contrasts with economic and monetary unions like the United States, Canada, Germany and Australia where financial transfers are of the order of 10 to 20 per cent of GNP. Structural Funds may attempt to compensate for the losses incurred through convergence but they are not adequate on their own. The Government's record in the effective use of the funds must also be evaluated. The fact is that they have not put in place the institutions and structures that could operate a sound regional policy. They have failed to deliver on local government reform and they continue to operate a centralised policy and decision-making system that is not geared towards making the best use of the Structural Funds.

The Government have not addressed the potential costs of EMU. In contrast, the Netherlands, a small state with some similarities to Ireland, has produced a White Paper on monetary integration and the Dutch Government have a clear strategy on how they would like the process to proceed.

Another are of crucial importance where the Government lack a coherent policy is the reform of the CAP. The Government were slow to recognise the impact of the proposed reforms on agri-business. The thrust of the MacSharry proposals for reform is a general reduction in intervention supports with compensation for farmers coming in the form of direct premia and this compensation being limited to specific types of farms. The CII estimate that the milk loss in the dairy sector will be approximately £100 million and in the beef sector it could be up to £200 million. This would have an impact on the food processing industry and the overall impact would be devastating to the entire economy.

Once again, the Government are reacting to events rather than initiating policy proposals. They seem to have no clear notion of how Irish agriculture should be restructured to take account of the reform of the CAP. They have consistently mistaken a negotiating position for a policy and the result is that the Irish economy is unprepared for the future.

The present Coalition of the Progressive Democrats and Fianna Fáil have refused to address issues until a crisis point is reached. One of the key areas they have been unwilling to address is the question of a common foreign and security policy in the context of a unified European Community. Whether it is formally stated or not, a common foreign policy will have a security-defence dimension. This is a question we must tackle head on. For the Taoiseach to say it is away in the distance and will not have to be faced for a long time is not a solution. It will have to be faced and we might as well understand that now.

Fine Gael believe that we must have a national debate — a debate similar to that held at the forum for a New Ireland. The debate should be initiated by the Government and must be informed, responsible and realistic. The people will, ultimately decide, However, they must be given every opportunity to make an informed choice. The task of Government is to give a lead in these considerations and not claim that the question does not arise.

The Taoiseach has dismissed the need for a national debate while suggesting quietly that we will give consideration to these matters in the distant future. What does he fear? Do his party and, indeed, his Government have a position on the issue? Why does he insist on preserving on outmoded cloak of secrecy about foreign policy? We must formulate our priorities and policies and be prepared to negotiate with a clear objective in mind.

It is interesting to note the debate that is taking place in Britain on the question of federalism and a supranational European state. It is a debate that should be of some interest and consequence to us. If the intention is to centralise power in a Euro-superstructure the implications for our political system could be profound. However, if the intention is a federal Europe with power delegated to the regions, then the impact on our political system could be positive and constructive.

The crucial question of the relationship between the European institutions and the national institutions must be examined and evaluated. This House has no mechanism through which we, as elected representatives, can really debate and discuss these issues. I believe that the lack of a clear strategy on the development of the European Community places us at a disadvantage facing into the Inter-governmental Conference in December.

The central issue facing the two Intergovernmental Conferences is how to strengthen the European Community as an economic and political entity. The Community clearly cannot stand still: it must either develop or decline. The further development of the Community is clearly in the interests of the citizens of all the member states. It is equally clearly in the interests of the EFTA countries, which want to expand their economic relations with the Community. It is also abundantly clear that the development of the Community is in the interests of the newly emerging democracies in Central and Eastern Europe which aspire either to becoming members of an expanded, wider European Community, or to being associated with it in a fundamental and meaningful way. It is very clear that our best interests are served in an expanding, developing Community with a real commitment to economic and social cohesion.

The case for a Single Market within the European Community has now been accepted: it is time to move on to Economic and Monetary Union and Political Union. These are the considerations that should inspire the work we do in the two Intergovernmental Conferences.

I do not believe, nor is there any evidence before us to suggest, that the Government are tackling that job systematically. We have very little information about the Government's views on any of the major issues, and both the Taoiseach and the Minister for Foreign Affairs have been extremely coy in this House and outside about revealing any views they might have on these issues. Today again the Taoiseach was timid, hesitant and even platitudinous in what he said in this House about the substantive issues. We have frequently heard the Taoiseach make the nonsensical assertion that it would in some way be wrong for him to reveal views in this House on important issues before meetings of the European Council. In fact, both he and the Government should be actively seeking the views and the advice of this House in order to enrich their approach to these negotiations. What is happening instead seems to be that the Taoiseach and the Government who have no clear views on where they should go are being sucked along willy-nilly by political currents which they do not even try to influence. Indeed, the Taoiseach himself admitted this this afternoon when he said on one of the key issues, that the Government have "followed the debate."

The European Community needs greater efficiency in decision making. Enormous progress has been made in the 40 years since the Treaty establishing the European Coal and Steel Communities was signed in 1951. Right through those 40 years, however, there has been an inevitable conflict between what I would call on the one hand "statism" and on the other hand "federalism". The EC has never fully lived up to its potential and the reason has always been the same, that fundamental political compromises on structures, institutions and decision making procedures have always leaned too much on the side of "statism". It is time we learned that lesson because we have not a great deal of time to improve the coherence of the European Community.

We need a strong Commission with a virtually exclusive right of initiative. I say virtually exclusive rather than wholly exclusive because I can see a strong case for a consultative procedure under which the European Council and perhaps the European Parliament, or both, could suggest new initiatives to the Commission which the Commission would have a right to refuse under certain circumstances.

The Commission has served the Community extremely well. True, it has rightly been criticised at various times for what many people have seen as an excess of centralising zeal. In my view, however, it is far better to have a zealous Commission which has to be reined in from time to time by the other institutions, than to have a supine Commission which will not advance the overall interests of the Community. The Commission should have the power of initiative and the responsibility to implement Community decisions on a day-to-day basis. The new Treaty now being negotiated should take away from the Council of Ministers the executive powers which it has gradually arrogated to itself through the process known as comitology in a whole series of areas. Attempts at management by the Council of Ministers have always created more problems than they have solved, and have always been a cause of incoherence in the Community system.

We need a Council of Ministers that can make decisions, not one that will be blocked for long periods on important issues. That means, in my view, that the power of veto implicit in the requirement for unanimity in voting on certain key matters should be dispensed with in all save very important matters such as modifications to the treaties or the conclusion of new treaties with states or groups of states outside the Community. Majority decisions should be the norm in the Council of Ministers; qualified majority decisions should be an infrequent exception.

As far as I know, the only view that the Government have expressed on these issues is the unsupported assertion that Ireland's interests can best be defended in a Council of Ministers where we have one voice out of 12. This, mind you, from a Government who have never vetoed a single decision in the Council of Ministers and from a Government who seem to ignore or be unaware of the fact that Ireland has much less than one voice in 12 in qualified majority decisions in the Council. Both the Commission and the European Parliament have shown themselves to be more consistent and more committed supporters of the smaller member states and of the peripheral regions than the Council of Ministers has ever been.

The draft Treaty proposals put forward by the Luxembourg Government — this infamous non-paper — do not deal either radically or decisively with the issues that arise in relation to the powers of the Commission and of the Council of Ministers, still less do they deal adequately with the powers of the European Parliament. What has come to be known as the "democratic deficit" in the Community is now widely acknowledged. There is no effective, consistent and continuing parliamentary scrutiny of the greater part of the decisions made by the Council of Ministers. It is idle for the Government to pretend, as the Taoiseach tried to do this afternoon, that there is any democratic scrutiny in the national parliaments. Even this debate today is only a pale substitute for the kind of scrutiny we should undertake, and indeed it is a habit with this Government because they do not want scrutiny of our domestic Estimates either, as we saw in their disgraceful conduct last week.

The European Parliament has limited powers. It has powers of "co-decision" in relation to the directives on the Single Market. Once these directives are in place, the effective powers of "co-decision" of the European Parliament come to an end under the present dispensation. It is a parliament elected directly by universal suffrage. The Council of Ministers is not directly accountable to the European Parliament, nor are its members directly accountable to their national parliaments. There is, therefore, a very strong case for giving the Parliament a greater say in decision making in the Community.

The Parliament seeks wider powers of "co-decision". It already has this power in relation to the Single Market directives. Contrary to what is claimed by members of the present Government, those powers have been very wisely used and have helped to expedite the Single Market process rather than to hold it up.

The case therefore for giving the Parliament extra powers is well founded on the use it has made of its "co-decision" powers and is undeniably well founded when we look at the requirements for democracy and proper parliamentary scrutiny of decisions of the Council of Ministers. The draft treaty proposed by the Luxembourg Government seems to give the Parliament new "co-decision" powers, but a detailed examination of the treaty shows they are in a very limited number of areas and with very limited scope.

There has been time to mention only a very few of the issues that arise here. I deplore, as do other Members of this House, the inadequacy of this debate. It is the only discussion this House has had on these issues, and it is one which the Government, to their shame, a few minutes ago tried to muzzle. They are running away from the matter and there is not the proper democratic input that is needed at this crucial time.

Firstly, let me say to all Members of this House that unless the major political parties wake up to reality and realise that something must be done to stop the handing over of large new areas of law-making competence from the Oireachtas and the Irish people to an EC Monetary and Political union the days of this House and its remaining powers are numbered. Future Government and elected representatives will be nothing more than a stage performance because all decisions relating to the running of our country will be made in Brussels.

The Taoiseach's position, which spinelessly supports the EC view on the situation in Yugoslavia, is not only shameful but it further highlights the fact that the Irish Government and the Department of Foreign Affairs are almost irrelevant as far as policy-making is concerned. Ireland should be supporting the rights of nations to self-determination and should take a positive attitude towards the developments in Croatia and Slovenia. It should at least consider official recognition of these republics, but instead, the Taoiseach and the Minister, Deputy Collins, have agreed with EC policy and said that Ireland will refuse recognition to the independence of Slovenia and Croatia if they leave Yugoslavia.

Slovenia clearly asserted its right to national self-determination last December when over 80 per cent of registered voters in Slovenia said they wanted their national independence. Ireland's opposition to this, because it is against the wishes of the big States of the European Community, is support for what amounts to a collectively imperalistic EC foreign policy. The democratically elected parliaments in both Croatia and Slovenia support demands for self-determination. The failed Communist regime in Belgrade has attempted to put an end to the process of freedom by the use of military force. This is an outrage which the Government should strongly condemn. Ireland in particular should support the principle of the peoples right to self-determination without the loss of life.

As the EC seeks to become a quasifederal superstate, it fears boundary changes in existing multinational federations, for example, Yugoslavia, the USSR, Czechoslovakia, India, Pakistan, Nigeria etc., all of which are artificial 20th century political creations that lack what gives states legitimacy and lasting popular democratic support, that is national continuity and decentralisation.

The EC is embarrassed by what is happening in Yugoslavia, because it clearly shows that stable political democracy cannot exist within super-centralised regimes, but will only exist within national states and national communities. The EC integration is an assault on national democracy in the interests of powerful transitional business and bureaucratic elites under no democratic control, whose laws and edicts can thus never have popular legitimacy. Indeed, it is ironic that while Free Eastern Europe is moving towards decentralisation Western Europe is going full steam in the other direction to a complete centralised system which Eastern Europe has clearly shown does not work.

European Union, which is to be the new name for what we now call the European Community, formerly known as the European Economic Community and originally known as the Common Market, will mean the end of national democracy as we know it. It would appear that by name changing and slowly chopping away at the structures the powerful bureaucratic elites and big business think they can confuse the Irish people into giving up any rights to govern their own country.

It would appear from the Taoiseach's speech that he is going to the bureaucratic elites and powerful big business who are pushing this European Union to get away with their plans to foist two new EC Treaties on the peoples of Western Europe at the Maastricht Summit next December. The European and Economic Monetary Union Treaty is designed to have a single EC currency and an EC Central Bank and EC decision making on credit, interest rates and the financing of national budgets for each EC member country by the late nineties.

The second treaty, which is a political union treaty, is aimed at common EC defence and foreign policy and new law making powers over energy, environment, education and other areas to be taken by Brussels from the national Governments and elected national parliaments.

The aims of the draft union treaty, which were discussed by the EC Ministers in Luxembourg, are to create an area without internal frontiers and the establishment of economic union including finally a single currency and to assert the union's identity on the international scene in particular through the implementation of a common foreign and security policy including the eventual framing of a defence policy: in fact, this is a new super state in the making. What is being planned with these new EC Treaties is clearly an all out assault on the national independence of the various peoples of Western Europe. This would be the destruction of their hard won democratic rights, i.e., the right to make their own laws through their own elected parliaments, to decide their own governments, to levy their own taxes and decide independently their relations with other states.

The replacement of that by law making behind closed doors by the EC Commission and Council of Ministers, where Ireland has only three votes out of 76, is the end of government of the people, by the people, for the people of the countries concerned. Its replacement of government by supernational politicians and bureaucracies enforcing the policies of transnational capital sees Ireland as primarily a source of cheap and migrant labour and an island tourist resort.

When people realise they have lost their democracy and national independence they will inevitably fight back. Unfortunately, it is harder to regain what has been lost than to refuse to surrender it in the first place, and it often takes people a long time to wake up when powerful political and media forces have an interest in hoodwinking them.

The Taoiseach, the Minister for Foreign Affairs, Deputy Collins, and their Government colleagues backed up by Fine Gael and others must be continually criticised for their plans to sell out what is left of Irish democracy and neutrality. It would appear that the only issue they are concerned about is what price they can get in return. Unfortunately these people will be well out of politics when the people of Ireland are still suffering the dire consequences of their acts. That is why we need to prepare now for the inevitable constitutional referendum, which will probably be in 1992, to ratify the signing of these treaties next December. The Green Party, Comhaontas Glas, appeal to all those concerned to come together now and prepare to fight against this planned sell-out.

It is absolutely astonishing that the Taoiseach should come in here to report on the European Council and, with the exception of using the word "unemployment" once in the second last page of his speech, employment was not mentioned, good, bad or indifferent, despite the fact that 30.8 per cent of the Irish workforce have failed to find a job at home since Deputy Haughey became Taoiseach. The percentage of the work force on the register of unemployment is now 19.9 per cent. In addition almost 11 per cent of our workers have emigrated in the past five years. This is a crisis. In order to record the accuracy of these figures the unemployment register published last week, and the supplement for those between the ages of 58 and 65 published yesterday, show an all time record for unemployment. This is the fourth month this year in which new records of unemployment have been recorded. Never was unemployment higher than it is today, yet it would appear that our Government, or no other government, put unemployment to the forefront. What good is economic and social cohesion if there is no future at home for all our citizens? Surely one of the principal measures by which the success or failure of society is measured is whether society provides a viable and fulfilling future at home for all its citizens. We have failed 31 per cent of our citizens.

I said some weeks ago in Limerick, and I am glad my party leader has taken up the phrase, that what was called the famine in the last century was not a famine, it was a hunger. At the time of the famine we were exporting food and in ten years the population of this island was reduced by 30 to 40 per cent. Millions died on coffin ships, while others eked out existences in Birmingham, Boston and further afield. Some of my own namesakes were found in Van Diemen's land, now Tasmania. The principal cause of that so called famine was not potato blight but official complacency by a government located in Westminster. We have all heard the ballads about Trevelyan's corn — the corn that was exported from this island while millions went to their deaths at home, on the high seas or in the transit camps on Ellis Island and elsewhere.

It is the same official complacency which is causing unemployment. It is astonishing that our Taoiseach presiding as he does over the worst unemployment figures by far in any of the Twelve EC countries, should go to a summit and not have as a principal item on the agenda policies to generate employment; it was not even a sub-item on the agenda. That is a shocking dereliction of duty and this shocking complacency fully measures up to the level of complacency and hostility which emanated from Westminster in the middle of the last century and from which this country has not yet recovered.

Since Deputy Haughey was returned as Taoiseach, 31 per cent of our workforce have failed to find a job at home. That is an indisputable fact published by the Government themselves, albeit in a way to try to obscure it. In the last few months they have taken to breaking the unemployment register in two: one part is published on the first Friday of the month and the second part is published on the following Monday, and sometimes on Tuesday. Today some political correspondents were looking for the second part of the June unemployment figures because they had not been given them yesterday. This is the extent to which the Government are prepared to go to obscure the true unemployment situation. What does European Union mean or what relevance has it for our people? What is the meaning of economic, monetary and social cohesion if it has no impact on unemployment, except to make it greater?

Even if the EC agreed to pay our total social welfare bill out of its budget it still would not be enough because even high social welfare payments cannot replace the sense of pride, fulfilment and employment which even routine, boring work gives to a person, compared to the dole and idleness. I condemn the Taoiseach for not placing unemployment on the agenda as a principal concern of the European Community.

Unemployment throughout the Community is between 8 per cent and 9 per cent. In Ireland unemployment, adjusted for migration figures, is 31 per cent. One must adjust for the migration figures because none of the other 11 countries has even remotely as bad an emigration problem as we have. The indication for the census year finishing on 5 April last is that there was no emigration last year. The reality is that in the past five years 136,000 people have left our shores, on top of which 264,000 people are registered as unemployed. If you add those two figures they come to exactly 400,000, 30.9 per cent of our workforce. I do not believe it has penetrated the consciousness of the Taoiseach — or his Government — the seriousness of unemployment, the demoralisation it creates, the tensions and health problems which arise and other adverse consequences, quite apart from the fact that homes completely dependent on unemployment payments live in poverty. They find it difficult to put food on the table and to clothe their children.

Unemployment must be our first issue at home and abroad. It is all the more surprising, given the overrun in the budget figures, that the Taoiseach did not see fit to adopt the Fine Gael strategy and put unemployment at the top of the political agenda. If we could only reduce unemployment by one-third we would have no budget deficit, less poverty, no emigration and fewer taxes. The Government stand condemned for their failure in this regard.

Ní thógfaidh mé ach cúpla nóiméad, ach tá cúpla pointí atá tábhachtach a ba cheart dom a nochtadh anocht. I wish to raise a few points in the speech from the Taoiseach in introducing this report on the proceedings of the intergovernmental conference on political economic and monetary union and related European developments which deserve clarification. On another occasion I made an attempt, for example, to ask the Minister for Foreign Affairs and, through him, the Taoiseach, what precisely was the Community's decision in relation to the structural basis of African famine. When I tabled questions of this nature I got used to a recitation of promises and donations made by the European Community in response to famine. It is one of the abuses of parliament and of language that a long list like this wastes the time available for asking supplementary questions. Question Time in relation to Foreign Affairs has become a notorious and scandalous abuse in this House.

When a comparison is made between the amount of time devoted and the number of questions answered the record of the House will show that very rarely are we able to complete a significant number of questions. This is almost entirely due to the extraordinarily long, descriptive, narrative and non-analytical answers provided for the Minister for Foreign Affairs. That atmosphere has encouraged far more supporters of the idea of a foreign affairs committee than previously in this House. The irritation is shown and shared, not only on Opposition benches, but on the Government side.

To make economical use of the few minutes I have I should like to now repeat my question. Why, in the speech delivered, was there not a more serious attempt to account for any discussions, deliberations or position papers if they had been prepared on the structural basis of African famine? I am not merely being academic, I am talking about the situation that faces many people when this House will be in recess. I make no apology for having repeated this, week in week out, for the last several weeks.

In Sudan, out of a population of 23.8 million people 7.7 million are at risk; in Ethiopia out of 48 million people 7.5 million people are at risk; in Somalia 2 million people in the population of 5.9 million are at risk; in Mozambique 1.9 million are at risk in a population of 15 million people; in Angola 1.9 people in a population of 9.5 million are at risk; in Nigeria 1.8 million out of a population of 7 million are at risk; in Liberia 1.35 million are at risk out of 2.5 million. When I read those figures in the past the response was almost the bill of lading of different means of transportation systems.

Let me be clear, I have always welcomed such systems but I asked a specific question which was not answered. What about the discussion or proposal on the structural basis of the famine itself? I very clearly itemised this. For example, what is the Community's thinking in relation to the burden of debt facing the countries most severely affected? What is the thinking of these councils which have reported on the cancellation or rescheduling of international debt? It was interesting that even Secretary Baker addressed this question in the United States even if his proposals were both cynical and absurd as he suggested that the debt could be exchanged for equity. I am sure that the starving millions on the gravel and sand of the desert will want to say what equity there is in death, gravel and sand.

What is the Community's position? I have to ask that today because, on several occasions recently, we have been told in this House — most recently in what might be regarded as a definition of the mystical body — when the Minister said that Ireland participates fully in the Twelve, that the position of the Twelve is the position of Ireland and Ireland, participating fully, is the position of the Twelve. When you have worked out it means that, sooner or later, we must get an answer to our question. We cannot get answers from the person with responsibility for foreign affairs. I believe the preparations in the debate — and the White Paper — for the Single European Act were absolutely farcical. It does not bother me which Government were in power or which Minister was responsible. I said at the time, and I repeat now, that in my opinion that was based on another error — the total neglect of the economic and social dimension in the preparatory documents leading up to the Single European Act. That became transparent when eventually a position document was forced out of those responsible and was rushed to the public rather late in the day. Will we have a repeat of that performance? The speech delivered this afternoon seems to give an agenda of problems but very little indication of Ireland's position.

The phrase "social cohesion" in the history of the language will probably be dated in the fullness of time to the debate surrounding the Single European Act. The phrase was used, if I might put it this way, to try to deal with the soft side of Europe — bluntly, those interested in a Europe of all Europeans, a Europe with people. It is interesting that of the documents to come before the House at the time, which are available in the Library, those dealing with the benefits of the integrated market both outweigh in a physical sense and precede in a temporal sense any suggestion of an identification of the social consequences of an integrated market. It is clear to anybody who walks the streets of any village, town or city of Europe that the social dimension of the European Community is in serious crisis. The commitment to the Social Charter, and the social action programme, is halfhearted. From meetings I have attended in Europe and as Chairman of the Subcommittee on Social, Environmental and Miscellaneous Affairs of the Oireachtas Joint Committee on European Legislation — what a title — I can say that I have seen no evidence to suggest anything that might generate enthusiasm or confidence in a principle of co-terminus evolution, and I use my phrase deliberately.

The mandate sought from the Irish people for the Single European Act and the mandate given was given on the clearest legal undertakings of equal development of the social side and the integration of the market. There is not one whit of evidence to suggest that that has in fact happened. In every single area — for example, in terms of an area just referred to, employment — Europe is in fact performing hopelessly. Figures in relation to participation have been jigged occasionally by the proliferation of schemes in substitution for employment opportunities. I find it hilarious that in the course of this afternoon's speech made by the Taoiseach it was suggested that we were somehow or another enthusiastic about social cohesion.

May I just list the issues that I feel require clarification? In relation to Ireland's overall approach, it is extraordinary that there should be a statement that it is now accepted that there is a difference between security and defence. At what price in the definition of security? It is interesting that in another part of the Taoiseach's speech it was noted that the Warsaw Pact had ceased to exist but the following paragraph stated the NATO was reconstituting its role. Does that mean that the Taoiseach welcomes the collapse of the Warsaw Pact but sees a future role for NATO? That is a change in Ireland's thinking.

In relation to many other issues I note that there is a celebratory, hyperbolic statement about the bankruptcy of central and eastern European regimes but that there is not a single reference to the unemployment consequences of the market economy. The document is indeed ideological. It is vague in spots and it is a disappointment.

Let us have a debate, let us not have arrogance and let us have a flushing out of what all the options are and what all the definitions may be before going to the people. If we get a mandate from the people, let us honour it. The people will remember that on the previous occasion the mandate was not honoured nor accountability rendered in this House and that Ireland is unique in Europe in being regarded as the only Parliament and the only people who are unworthy and whom it is unnecessary to consult through a foreign affairs committee.

In the few moments available to me I wish to address a couple of points to the Minister for the Environment, who, I understand, is to reply to the debate on behalf of the Taoiseach.

The kind of debate and the structure of the proceedings that have taken place this afternoon are indicative of the Government's commitment to the whole European process. It would appear that in the summer of 1991 the Irish Government have a begging bowl mentality vis-á-vis the European Community, that Ireland is in the European Community for the benefits that may accrue but when it comes to contributing to the political and social decisions of that Community it opts to stand back and let the decisions be made by others. That is the one common thread that appears throughout the Taoiseach's speech this afternoon — a most disappointing and empty speech following a summit that should have been of much more interest to Ireland than the Taoiseach's report would indicate.

I would hope that we as a national Parliament and as a House could have better structures so that we would have a much greater input and be better briefed on decisions made both in the European Parliament and at Council of Ministers level. It is something of a farce that we as a parliament should be given an afternoon to debate matters that took place at a summit and to debate decisions that have already been taken. I wonder why we do not have a full day's debate on such matters before a summit takes place; why we do not have a report to the House from Ministers before they depart to Council of Ministers' meetings? The lack of dialogue and communication between us as a national parliament and the institutions of the European Community is giving rise to a widespread cynicism throughout Irish society about our participation in European affairs.

The matter of foreign affairs committee has been amplified ad nauseam by Deputy Michael D. Higgins. I certainly do not wish to speak for Deputy Higgins, but I sense at this stage a measure of embarrassment on his part when he stands on an almost daily basis to raise the matter of a foreign affairs committee, which at this point in time brings only acknowledgments of derision, laughter and scorn from Government benches. It is simply not good enough for a country that prides itself on being European that has been a member of the European Community for almost 20 years, that the Government do not allow us to have a foreign affairs committee for fear of the committee speaking out of line or for fear of it making decisions or being seen to make decisions or having views not in keeping with the views of the Taoiseach of the day.

An illustration of Ireland's commitment to the European Community and the entire European process is the part of the Taoiseach's speech which refers to the very important issue of security and defence and which comes up with the gem that the position of successive Governments has been that if the Community were to develop its own defence arrangements for security, then Ireland as a committed member state would consider participation. If I have ever seen a prime example of a statement that says absolutely nothing, that is it.

The attitude of the Government towards the European Community at this time is shameful. We are engaged in an almost meaningless round of statements. There is no motion before the House, no decision-making structure, just a series of statements and the national parliament of a member state will then note the fact that sometime in the early summer of 1991 a European summit involving the Heads of members states took place.

The fact that the Luxembourg Summit did not deal with the question of employment has been mentioned. The fact that it was not raised by the Taoiseach is further proof of the shameful performance on the part of the Irish Government.

Tomorrow the House again will have an opportunity to engage in a series of speeches on agriculture with particular reference to the effects on this vital national industry of the proposals of an Irish Commissioner. Again, it is regrettable that tomorrow there will be nothing more than a series of statements and the House will not have an opportunity of passing a motion or a resolution or stating that the MacSharry cuts will bring widespread and wholesale devastation to rural life as we know it. I hope that early tomorrow morning the Minister for Agriculture and Food will set out for the House, and the country, the plan of campaign he will engage in at the earliest opportunity when we get final clarification from Brussels of what the decisions will be. Undoubtedly, this is a matter of vital national interest.

Comparing Irish agriculture to agriculture in other European states, we have by far the greatest dependency with 16 per cent of our workforce directly engaged in agriculture. That is more than twice the European average. More particularly our type of agriculture is such that 87 per cent of Irish farms are family farms. We hear meaningless commitments by Government Ministers to protect the family farm, protect Irish agriculture, and yet we see total capitulation by our Minister at the Council of Agriculture Ministers and by the Irish Commissioner. It would appear that it has been the greatest disadvantage of all time for Ireland to have its Irish Commissioner designated to agriculture because, in order to prove his independence, he has bent over backwards to act against our vital national interests.

I hope tomorrow the Minister for Agriculture and Food will give us, the elected representatives of the people of Ireland, an indication of the stance he will take at future Council meetings on the devastating proposals on the reform of the Common Agricultural Policy. There is no doubt that damage will be caused to farm incomes which, even before this latest round, had suffered with farmers earning on average 50 per cent less than they did two years ago. Would any other sector take even a 10 per cent cut in income given the state of our economy without an outcry of almost revolutionary proportions? However, we are expected by the Minister for Agriculture and Food, and by the Commissioner, to allow farm incomes to be halved over two years with worse to come when the effect of the proposals for the reform of the Common Agricultural Policy filter through.

I should like to ask the Minister what has come from this debate. Would it not be more beneficial to everybody, and to our country, to have this type of debate prior to the Summit.

We are not even rubber-stamping the decisions taken at the Summit because, to judge by what the Taoiseach said, he did not even bother bringing forward the most important issues, agriculture and employment, and yet we call ourselves committed Europeans.

First, the House should express its thanks to the Taoiseach for his very comprehensive outline of the proceedings on the Intergovernmental Conference on political union and economic and monetary union and related European developments in his contribution. It is seen outside as the most detailed examination of the progress made to date leading up to the final decisions to be taken later this year at Maastricht. It should be recognised as one of the most comprehensive reports ever put before this House. If Deputies opposite had paid more attention, and had had a better attendance here, they might have gained something useful from the speech since they were so active in pursuing the debate in the first instance.

Earlier my colleague, the Minister for Defence, outlined and updated the Community's response to the crisis in Yugoslavia. I would like to take up some of the points made by other Deputies during the course of the debate. First, on the question of the internal market, as is standard at the European Council the state of play on the completion of the internal market was reviewed in Luxembourg. One of the most important aspects of the conclusions is the need, recognised throughout the Community, to ensure that legislation is transposed without undue delay into national law. Implementation at national level is vital to the success of the 1992 enterprises.

At Luxembourg the Heads of State and Government invited each Government to take all necessary steps to make up for lost time. The Commission has been asked to report back on the situation to the next European Council meeting in Maastricht in December. The internal market programme remains a major preoccupation of the Community. It provided the motivation which led to the success of the Single Act and it helped to inspire the renewed drive towards European union. It has encouraged other countries, such as Austria and Sweden, to seek membership of the Community. Its success has helped to inspire a process of change in eastern Europe. Its completion is one of the requirements for the commencement of Stage II of economic and monetary union. For all of these reasons much depends on the success of the 1992 programme and it is linked directly to the success of its efforts in other areas.

The second point I would like to deal with is the Community's external relations, a very important topic at the European Council and at Luxembourg. Important declarations were adopted on a number of significant matters. The Community has been very active in helping to encourage the process of democratisation in Eastern Europe. The Commission in particular has a central role to play as was recognised by the summit of the major industrial countries in Paris two years ago.

On the USSR the European Council reviewed the state of play on assistance and underlined its full support for the endeavour of President Gorbachev and the Government of the Soviet Union to accelerate the reforms undertaken and to ease its integration into the world economy.

Very significantly the Commission was invited to pursue exploratory talks with the Soviet Union on a major agreement covering not only economic but political and cultural matters. Irish bilateral links with the Soviet Union are important and we are conscious of the importance to bilateral relations and ties with the Community. We have supported the development of these ties, as positive progress has taken place in the Soviet Union.

Some members referred to the EFTA countries. As the House is aware the negotiations with the EFTA countries are reaching a crucial stage. Important issues remain to be resolved before we can reach our objective as a single market involving the EFTA countries. These include issues such as fisheries and cohesion where Ireland has significant concerns. We regard the success of the negotiations as important and have encouraged a satisfactory outcome. We are continuing to take a constructive approach in the negotiations. while ensuring that our specific position on fisheries and on cohesion is recognised by the Commission, by our partners and by the EFTA countries.

Deputy Bruton in his contribution referred to employment and the need for a Community focus on employment. This is one of the issues under consideration in the Intergovernmental Conference. Article 2 of the draft union treaty sets out the essential tasks and objectives of the Community, and includes among these objectives, to which all the policies of the Community are directed, is an explicit commitment to employment. Nothing could be clearer. This was an Irish proposal and I am happy to see it included in the draft negotiating text. Moreover, the specific common policy set out in the draft will be directed at economic development and job creation, for example policies on economic and social cohesion, research and development and on education and training.

Deputies raised fears about the reform of the Common Agricultural Policy. It has been suggested that the Taoiseach did not intervene on this question at European Council level. The House will have an opportunity to discuss Common Agricultural Policy reform tomorrow. I would make it clear that the Taoiseach intervened on this issue at the European Council and made clear to his Heads of Government colleagues the social and economic significance of agriculture to Ireland.

Why is there not reference to it in the communique then?

The Taoiseach pointed out his concern at the implications for Irish agriculture of the proposals now under consideration. He successfully opposed any attempt to include in the Council's conclusions a reorientation of Community priorities in the GATT round which could have affected the Community's negotiating position on agriculture. As it is there is no change in the Community's negotiation position.

Many Deputies referred to the development of a common foreign and security policy and to the issue of defence. The Taoiseach set out the present state of discussions in this area in his opening statement and he made it clear that the distinction that we have made between security and defence was acceptable to the other member states at the Rome European Council in December, and that this distinction is confirmed in the Luxembourg conclusions last month. This is important, because it has enabled the Intergovernmental conference to focus its discussion separately on the two areas. Some progress has been made in defining the scope of security along the lines of the areas set out in the Rome conclusions, namely arms control and disarmament, CSCE matters, certain questions debated in the United Nations, economic and technological co-operation in the disarmament field, co-ordination of Community export policy and non-proliferation. We expect that the next phase of the negotiations under the Netherland's Presidency will carefully examine each of these areas to determine their appropriatness to a common policy.

When and if we vote.

Similarly, further work will need to be carried out in the period before the Maastricht Council on the decision-making procedures including the voting arrangements.

What does that mean?

Far from standing back on these issues we have been active in shaping the debate within the Community and in the Intergovernmental Conference on foreign policy and security.

Some shape.

Deputy Flanagan made an outrageous statement when he said that our approach to the Community was a begging bowl approach. The Deputy fails to appreciate the fundamental basis for the Government's policy towards the Community.

What is the Government's policy?

We are engaged with our Community partners in constructing a new, political, economic and monetary union. It is essential in building that basis that policies should be put in place to ensure its solidarity and stability. That is why we have stressed the need for new policies on economic and social cohesion as an essential part of the development of the Union. To suggest that we should be ashamed or that we should be bashful about our approach implies that we should ignore an essential part of European Union. This would be misunderstood and misrepresented and the Deputy should not have pursued that line in his contribution. On reflection I am sure the Deputy will recognise that it was a mistake, a statement issued in the heat of the moment, and that he will be happy to withdraw it.

In relation to economic and social cohesion the Taoiseach outlined today the specific concrete proposal the Government have put forward for Treaty amendments to strengthen the Community commitment to cohesion and Community action in that area. Ireland was the first member state to make concrete proposals on cohesion to the Conference. We have been instrumental in pushing the debate on this issue. It is significant that the draft Treaty now on the table takes up the ideas first put forward by Ireland. We have also been instrumental in ensuring that the issue is discussed at each European Council meeting at which political, economic and social cohesion is discussed. As a result of our active policies the President of the Commission, Jacques Delors made a comprehensive and important statement on cohesion at the Luxembourg Council. This was due to our interest which led the way in this matter. The Council have asked the Commission to clarify and develop their ideas, and these will be taken up between now and the end of the year.

At the half way stage in these very complex negotiations I can report substantial progress on this issue, which is one of the priority concerns in the Inter-governmental Conference. It is clear from the Taoiseach's statement this afternoon — and we have to agree that it was a most comprehensive report of Inter-governmental business — that the Government have taken on a very active and committed part in the negotiations in a way that enhances Ireland's interest in these matters. In 1973 when we joined the Community we made a commitment to European integration and closer union between the peoples of Europe. Our participation in the conferences and our contribution to the negotiations are fully in line with that commitment. That commitment has always been in Ireland's interest and in the interests of the Community in general.

What utter drivel. It is a total charade and it shows utter contempt for this House.

That concludes statements on the European Council meeting in Luxembourg. We will now return to item No. 9, the Estimates for Public Service, 1991.

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