As I said, I would be unhappy if the level of redundancies continued at the same level as for the first six months of this year. In the early months of the year the figure was 1,500 to 1,700 but it is now down to 1,200. I hope we can sustain that figure or reduce it if at all possible. I do not think the redundancy figure will equal the number of jobs created, but there is a negative factor. Last year and the year before the redundancy figure was about 13,000, whereas in 1984 the figure was 31,000 and in 1983, 29,000 and any jobs created were being lost through redundancy. The lower we can keep our redundancy figures the better for net job creation. That is what we want to achieve.