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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 21 Oct 1992

Vol. 424 No. 1

Adjournment Debate. - Environment and Health Matters.

I thank you, a Cheann Comhairle, for allowing me to make a short statement. I am glad the Minister of State, a native of County Galway, will reply on this matter which relates to County Galway. The village of Williamstown, which is in the very northern tip of County Galway, is a very low-lying area. For many years the people of Williamstown have sought a sewerage scheme, particularly because of the problems with septic tanks in the town. Tonight I should like to make their case very strongly on health grounds because of the problems with septic tanks. The local national school is a seven teacher school and the committee of the community centre have sought the development of the sewerage scheme.

I hope the Minister of State and, perhaps, the Minister, will as soon as possible meet a deputation from Williamstown where there are approximately 40 houses. The town also has a very good business community. There are six public houses in it and the local vintners association pressed very strongly for the scheme in the past.

I know that the contract documents for both the site investigation works and the scheme are under consideration in the Department and I hope approval for the commencement of the scheme will be given as soon as possible.

I thank Deputy Kitt for raising this matter on the Adjournment. As he knows, I have a special interest in Galway as I was born there. Aware of the fact that Deputy Kitt was around and there would not be a Dáil seat for me there, I moved when I was only six weeks old to join the Minister of State, Deputy Flood in Dublin South-West.

A sewerage scheme was first proposed for Williamstown in the late fifties. The village is at present served by septic tanks. Poor soil percolation limits the effectiveness of those tanks, which has at times resulted in a public health nuisance.

A preliminary report for the provision of a secondary treatment plant, the laying of sewers, the provision of a pumping station and an outfall pipe to the island river was submitted by Galway County Council in May 1986 and was approved by the Department in March 1987. Contract documents for the scheme were not submitted, however, until September 1992 as the council experienced difficulty in acquiring the necessary land. The council have also submitted contract documents for site investigation, and those are currently under examination in the Department. It is intended that the results of the site investigations will be integrated with the contract documents for the main scheme in due course.

In the light of existing commitments on the water and sanitary services programme, I cannot indicate at this stage when approval may issue, but the views expressed by Deputy Kitt this evening, and expressed by him to the Minister previously, will be taken into account in assessing the situation.

The Martinstown group water scheme was formed in October 1989 with the intention of supplying water to the parish of Martinstown. The proposed scheme will serve about 100 households in the Martinstown area. The group water scheme committee bored a test well which proved a success. Subsequently they prepared a design in accordance with the Limerick County Council and the Department of the Environment's specifications. The present water supply in the parish is poor and contains iron and lime.

At present people have to draw water and this causes considerable hardship. More than 50 of the members of the group water scheme are farmers and, judging from water supplies taken by Teagasc over the years, most of their individual water supplies will fail the EC Directive. It is essential, therefore, that a water supply be provided as soon as possible.

I am aware from previous replies that the Minister states that because of budgetary constraints he is unable to approve this scheme. These people have waited long enough and I ask the Minister to approve this scheme to give a much needed group water scheme to this area, one of a few areas in the county of Limerick deprived of this service.

I thank Deputy Finucane for raising this matter.

This scheme proposes to serve up to 100 households and farms. It involves pumping from a borehole to an 80,000 gallon reservoir which will provide a gravity supply to all participants. The design of the scheme has been cleared with Limerick County Council. The council's view is that the group's reservoir and distribution system should be enlarged to cater for the future development needs of the area.

Group water scheme grants to the participants involved are estimated at £68,000. However, the scheme would require a further substantial grant of about £80,000 from the overall provision available for public schemes in order to meet the cost of the additional works suggested by Limerick County Council.

As the Deputy knows, the funds for public schemes are not unlimited and are in fact subject to enormous competing demands at present. Having regard to the existing level of commitments under the water and sanitary services programme, I cannot say when there will be a decision on this scheme. I do undertake, however, to consider the Deputy's concerns closely.

Protests promoted by big powerful organisations are a fairly common feature on our streets — indeed they are a regular feature outside Dáil Éireann. It is not too difficult for the big boys to get the numbers out but a street protest from a rural community is a different matter. One thing we can be sure of, when we see a rural protest there is a great depth of feeling behind it. We had such a protest meeting recently by the people of west Sligo, mainly farming families, at the office of the Department of the Environment in Ballina seeking some action on the group scheme for Castleconor, Kilglass, Screen and Dromard. It was a plea from the heart if ever I heard one. It is a sad day when these people are forced on to the streets to make their case for the basic need of piped water. For years they have argued their case, and only very recently they did so directly across the table from the Minister himself.

No one disputes the special needs of the area because of the dreadful quality of the water supplies at present and because of farming and tourist demands. I do not need to elaborate further on that. I do not think even the Minister disputes the special needs of west Sligo for these group water schemes, but still what we are getting in response is a total lack of movement, total inertia. Only yesterday in the Dáil the Minister had an opportunity, in response to my own question, to give some glimmer of hope; but his answer was even more negative than earlier ones.

The Minister can if he wishes give special grants for schemes because of special cost factors. This has been the practice in the past. Why was this not done for west Sligo, where there are particular difficulties, especially since it has now come to light that one of the major problems was created by the Department in curtailing the regional scheme providing the source supply? There is an anger sweeping through this community in Tirreragh seldom seen by this public representative or indeed before that in a long career as a journalist covering such matters. The people feel they are being abandoned. All they are being told is that because of geographical factors and other reasons there is a cost problem with their scheme. They are told nothing further. Is it any wonder then that they are so angry? Can we hear from the Minister tonight, through the Minister of State, what efforts he is making to provide special funds for Castleconor, Screen, Dromard and Kilglass? Let then know that something is being done and give them some hope.

Deputy Nealon raised this matter in the House last July and on that occasion the Minister outlined to him in detail the difficulties in providing funding for these proposals under group water scheme arrangements. These Castleconor, Screen and Dromard schemes are extremely costly by the normal standard of group schemes. This is because as now designed and in order to meet local authority wishes the scheme embodies considerable provision for other future needs.

This additional capacity has been suggested by the local authority to cater for the many households and farms which have not yet joined the scheme. At this stage I understand that in some sections of both schemes as few as 50 per cent of householders and farmers have actually pledged themselves to join the scheme. This is obviously contributing to the difficulties of financing these schemes since grants are paid on the basis of £700 per house and £500 per farm if connected to the scheme.

The overall result at present is that group water scheme grants plus members' own contributions amount to a sum of only 38 per cent of the total cost of these schemes. The deficit of 62 per cent amounts to some £1.1 million and this substantial grant requirement would have to come from a capital provision for public water supply schemes. This provision is under enormous demand at present from urgent schemes all around the country. I cannot therefore give a definite commitment to grant approval at this stage. However, I would like to assure the Deputy that the Department and the Minister are examining all possible means, including certain alternatives, for supporting the extension of the Lough Easky water supply scheme to these areas.

I now call on Deputy Bill Cotter to let us have his two minute statement.

I thank you for allowing me to raise this very important matter. The Minister would probably agree with me that RTE should be warmly congratulated for screening a programme last night on child sexual abuse. No one who watched it could have remained unmoved. It is now long past the time when the country at large should show similar courage and stop sweeping such problems under the carpet. We should now recognise that such abuse is widespread in Ireland. The price of our complacency is relentless cruelty to thousands of children.

Fine Gael produced a discussion document last January to highlight the problem and to give some direction as to how it should be managed. Victims of child sexual abuse can suffer the most grevious emotional damage, destroying their chances of a normal existence. The Minister will agree that victims can make a recovery if they receive appropriate counselling and therapy.

Since 1984 thousands of cases have been reported and, of course, thousands of cases have gone unreported also. My information is that the Government are not taking the problem very seriously and the answers I get occasionally to parliamentary questions lead me to that conclusion. Thousands of victims are not receiving appropriate and essential treatment. Following last night's programme it is imperative that the Government take this matter seriously. I look forward to the Minister's response. I know he is doing his best, but the Government are not giving him much support.

The sexual abuse of a defenceless child is a heinous crime which greatly disturbs all of us. It goes without saying that any child who has been the unfortunate victim of such abuse should receive every possible support.

Responsibility for monitoring and coordinating the investigation and management of alleged cases of child abuse, including child sexual abuse, rests with the health boards as part of the child care services provided within the community care programme. Whenever an investigation into an alleged case of child sexual abuse confirms that abuse has taken place, the relevant health board arranges to make available appropriate counselling and other support services for the unfortunate victim.

A number of important initiatives in relation to child abuse have been taken by my Department and by the health boards in recent years. In 1987 my Department published detailed child abuse guidelines which set out clearly the steps to be taken by the various parties involved in the identification, investigation and management of all forms of child abuse, including child sexual abuse.

In the Eastern Health Board area units for the investigation and management of alleged child sexual abuse were established early in 1988 at Temple Street Hospital and Our Lady's Hospital for Sick Children, Crumlin. During the same year a special allocation was made to each of the other seven health boards to enable them to establish appropriate services in their areas. Services are now in place in each health board area; some of them are based in a particular hospital in the region while others are provided on a community basis.

I am generally satisfied with the range of assessment services that are now available. However, I am conscious of the need for further developments in the long term treatment of victims of child abuse, including improvements in the level of child and adolescent psychiatric provision. Towards this end my Department have approved the development of child and adolescent psychiatric services in the North-Eastern, North-Western, MidWestern and South-Eastern Health Board areas, funded with special moneys made available under the Programme for Economic and Social Progress. It is my intention to continue to develop these services as available resources permit.

In come instances, of course, it is regrettably the case that child sexual abuse does not come to light until the victim reaches adulthood. An increasing number of adults who were sexually abused as children are reporting their horrendous experiences and seeking professional help in coming to terms with those experiences.

Many past victims of child sexual abuse contact the rape crisis centres for assistance. There are currently seven rape crisis centres operating throughout the country located in the following areas — Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway, Waterford, Clonmel and Tralee. The Tralee centre opened earlier this year. Services provided by each centre focus predominantly on counselling, both by telephone and on a face to face basis, to victims of recent and past rape attacks and also to adult victims of child sexual abuse. There is increasing recognition of the complementary role of the work of the rape crisis centres with that of the statutory health services in providing a comprehensive service for victims of rape and sexual abuse.

I would like to conclude by assuring the Deputy that I have every sympathy for the unfortunate victims of child sexual abuse and that I am fully committed to the development of services to help them. Our full energies are directed at ensuring that services are provided for children who are identified as having been sexually abused and for adult victims of such abuse who come forward. The services which I have outlined are a clear indication of the serious efforts being made by the Government to address this difficult problem.

The House will now hear a two minute statement from Deputy McGinley.

First, I thank you for allowing me to raise this matter here at this hour and the Minister of State for his presence in the House. It is 12 years almost to the day since I attended my first public meeting in Killybegs, held in the Foresters' Hall there. The subject matter of that meeting was a new community nursing unit for Killybegs. I can vividly recall senior members of the Minister of State's party promising that the unit was about to be built. We have gone around many corners since that 1980 by-election campaign but I am afraid Killybegs is still without a community nursing unit.

Killybegs and the surrounding areas from Dunkineely and Bruckless right through to Kilcar, Carrick and Glencolumbkille have probably a higher incidence of old people and senior citizens, many of whom live alone, than any other part of the country. Many of their homes are located in remote areas, far removed from essential services such as shops, post offices, doctors and churches. These people in their declining years have to be transferred 50 or 60 miles to the nearest community nursing unit out of their immediate environment and far removed from friends, neighbours and families, that is, if any members of their families are left in the area.

An active and hard-working committee for the nursing unit has been operating in the area for the past 14 years. They have met Ministers and officials and have been given many commitments, only to be disappointed and to have their hopes dashed again and again. There is widespread support throughout south-west Donegal for a nursing unit for Killybegs. This unit is more urgently needed now than ever before. All that is required is for the Minister to give the project the green light. I appeal to the Minister of State here tonight not to disappoint the people of Killybegs again. Nothing would give them greater satisfaction than an announcement that the nursing home will be provided and built during 1993. I also appeal to him to convey this message to the Minister and to respond positively to the case of Killybegs.

In the first instance responsibility for providing a community nursing unit in Killybegs lies with the North Western Health Board. The board have been considering this for a number of years. The original plan included residential units but these have been omitted from the present brief which comprises a community nursing unit and a day hospital day centre. The North-Western Health Board, with my approval, have recently purchased a suitable central site in Killybegs and disposed of an earlier badly-situated site.

I regard the proposal of the North-Western Health Board to build a new community nursing unit in Killybegs, County Donegal, as a top priority and I am specifically identifying this need in seeking funding for capital projects for the elderly. For obvious reasons, it is not the practice to incur costs on the appointment of a design team until it is certain that funds are going to be made available to allow building to proceed.

The recommendations on services for the elderly contained in the report, The Years Ahead have been adopted by Government and are being progressively implemented. In 1990 and 1991 the Government allocated substantial funds to the North-Western Health Board. These funds amounted to £590,064. During the past two years the board have considerably improved services for the elderly throughout the region. In 1990 the board used the funds to enhance community services for the elderly, in line with the then Minister's priorities. The elderly in the North-West benefited from increased levels of home help, home nursing, day care and the provision of a Department of Medicine of the Elderly at Letterkenny General Hospital. This investment in services for the elderly has led to a substantial improvement in the level of care for the elderly which I hope will be maintained.

I must point out to the Deputy that there has been a fair share of positive action in so far as services for the elderly in the North-Western Health Board area are concerned. I would ask the Deputy to accept the commitment of the Government to the development of services for the elderly in the North-Western Health Board area as shown by the generous additional funding for services for the elderly in the last few years.

To sum up, the provision of a new community nursing unit for the elderly is regarded by the North-Western Health Board as a vital element of their community care programme. Approval to go ahead with the project will be conveyed as soon as I am satisfied that the necessary funding is available. I must take into account competing demands for capital funding from all over the country and indeed the internal priorities of the North-Western Health Board within the overall level of resources made available to my Department in 1993.

The Dáil adjourned at 1.25 a.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 22 October 1992.

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