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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 19 May 1993

Vol. 431 No. 1

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Access to Environmental Information.

Helen Keogh

Question:

5 Ms. Keogh asked the Minister for the Environment when he proposes to introduce regulations to implement EC Directive 90/313/EEC on freedom of access to information on the environment; whether the implementation process will be influenced by the High Court judgment on 31 March 1993, concerning the constitutionality of Ministerial regulations which purport to overrule an Act of the Oireachtas and which are currently under appeal to the Supreme Court; and whether the regulations will apply to An Bord Pleanála, including inspector's reports.

Pat Rabbitte

Question:

24 Mr. Rabbitte asked the Minister for the Environment if his attention has been drawn to the recent report produced by Greenpeace which stated that a number of county councils were acting in breach of the EC directive on freedom of environmental information by refusing to release information on their environmental monitoring; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Avril Doyle

Question:

78 Mrs. Doyle asked the Minister for the Environment if the High Court judgment on clenbuterol use at the end of March 1993, will delay the implementation of other EC Directives, particularly the Directive on the Freedom of Access to environmental information which was due to be ratified over four months ago.

I propose to take Questions Nos. 5, 24 and 78 together.

Regulations to transpose Directive 90/313/EEC on Freedom of Access to Information on the Environment into Irish law will be made later this week. I intend to promulgate these regulations widely, together with detailed guidance notes and a shorter information leaflet.

The regulations, like the directive, will embody broad definitions of the kind of public authorities and environmental information to which its provisions apply. It will therefore be a matter of legal interpretation in particular cases whether a public authority or specific information are covered by the regulations. It will however be relevant to the position of An Bord Pleanála that the directive excludes bodies acting in a judicial or legislative capacity and also permits refusal of information in relation to matters which are or have been sub judice, or which are or have been under inquiry, or which are the subject of preliminary investigation proceedings.

As regards the High Court judgment referred to, the regulations will be made under section 110 of the Environmental Protection Agency Act, 1992; the European Communities Act, 1972, is not involved.

As regards reports of county councils acting in breach of the directive, all public authorities, including local authorities, have been requested to comply with the provisions of the directive pending the making of implementing regulations. While I have no supervisory or appellate role in relation to local authorities in this matter, I understand that the two county councils named in the report have stated that their actions comply with the provisions of the directive.

I am delighted to hear the information contained in the first part of the Minister's reply. However, I have a problem with the position in relation to An Bord Pleanála. I should say I accept the points in this regard made by the Minister in his reply. We should ensure that An Bord Pleanála adhere to the principle behind the directive on access to information. Would the Minister not agree that soon there will be no transparency in regard to An Bord Pleanála? I wish to give an example of what can happen. I was asked to make inquiries about a decision made by An Bord Pleanála. Following my inquiries I was not in a position to give a satisfactory answer to the people who made the query in the first instance — in other words, I could not find out what had happened. It is very unfortunate that this can happen. People believe that they cannot have access——

Brief questions, please, Deputy Keogh.

Would the Minister not agree that soon there will be no transparency in regard to decisions made by An Bord Pleanála? We are moving away from the position in the UK, which was never held up to us as a model of transparency.

I do not think the Deputy should have made a comparison with the position in the UK, where an inspector makes the decision in the appeals system. The Irish system is entirely different.

I know that.

The Planning Appeals Board makes the decision on the basis of the recommendation made by the inspectorate. The directive does not give one any freedom in this regard. Judicial and quasi-judicial functions are excluded; I do not have any discretion. Only 7 per cent of the total planning applications are sent to An Bord Pleanála. Ninety-three per cent of the applications are decided at local level. If one wishes to obtain information, the decision would already have been taken by the board. In order for information to be of benefit it should be available before decisions are taken. That system is quite transparent and one of the most open in Europe.

May I——

Order, please. I will hear a reply to Question No. 6 in the name of Deputy Austin Currie, if it is responded to now.

With respect, a Cheann Comhairle, a great deal of time was given to the other priority questions. I want to ask a brief question.

The Deputy must not want the other question to be dealt with. I will hear a reply to Question No. 6, if it is responded to now, and I mean now.

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